Unsubscribe me, please. Thank you. theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Ship Ida Kiss, NY 10 January 1850 (Hoskins) 2. Scottish Emigrants to South Western Ontario in 1818 (Harry Dodsworth) 3. Re: Ship Ida Kiss, NY 10 January 1850 (PAUL NICHOLS) 4. namibia (Ilana & Stephan) 5. SS Scotia (Indi Barat) 6. Re: Ship Ida Kiss, NY 10 January 1850 (Harry Dodsworth) 7. NAME OF SHIP ESSEX (GMR7815@aol.com) 8. Re: namibia (Ted Finch) 9. (no subject) (Karen Ard) 10. Overland or by Ship query (jwyze1@gmail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:28:42 -0400 From: "Hoskins" Subject: [TSL] Ship Ida Kiss, NY 10 January 1850 To: Message-ID: <001401c6d78c$5aa53e90$783e0448@YOURC9649576F1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Would like info on the Ida Kiss that arrived in New York, 10 January 1850, from Newport, Wales. My gggrandmother was a passenger, arriving with her children, to join my gggrandfather in NE Pennsylvania. The internet only shows one arrival for this ship. Is there any info on this voyage or ship....time taken, size of ship, etc ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:38:27 -0400 (EDT) From: af877@freenet.carleton.ca (Harry Dodsworth) Subject: [TSL] Scottish Emigrants to South Western Ontario in 1818 To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20060914003827.4EDE124747@smeagol.ncf.ca> Montreal Gazette, July 7, 1819 To the Emigrants who arrived at Quebec in the summer of 1818, and who came in the Jane of Greenock, and the Carlow of London, from the parishes of Comera, Balyhidder, Weems, and Killice in Perthshire, North Britain [1]. When we parted from you at Montreal for this part of the Country, we promised to inform you of the advantages, which we might find it to possess. You are probably so scattered about now, that we cannot inform you in any other way than by addressing you a letter in a newspaper; and we earnestly hope, that the Editors of other papers, will be kind enough to give our letter one insertion, that you may all have the opportunity of hearing from us. We have been of the party of Colonel Burwell, and assisted him to Survey about seventy thousand acres of land, in the Township of London, which we have just completed, and Colonel Talbot has just located us upon one hundred acres each. The Township of London is bounded in front by the river Thames, and is well watered by the north branch of it, and a great many smaller branches which intersect every Concession in the Township; some of which are very excellent for Mill seats. The land is of the finest quality we ever saw. The soil is generally very black and deep; and at the same time, intermixed with a small quantity of white sand. The Timber is Sugar Maple, Elm, white Oak, Butternut, Cherry, and Basswood. We have not passed through a lot, but that we have seen some Butternut trees, under which, the ground was frequently almost covered with Butternuts at this season of the year. The pack-men of our party have often gathered, and brought quantities of them, to where we have encamped at night, and cracked as many as we wished. Towards the last of April, and the first of this month, they have been as fine and dry amongst the leaves of last year, as though they had been kept in a house. Several persons who have removed from the Eastern part of this Province, and now live near this place, have informed us, that the wintering of Cattle and Horses does not cost more than half as much here as there. When we left Scotland, the Ministers of our parishes begged us to settle near each other, which we sincerely wish and hope, that such of you as are not settled to your satisfaction, will come to this part of the Province, and now live near this place. You will certainly like the country when you see it. We have had no trouble in getting our lands. When we made choice of them, we applied to Colonel Talbot, and we have two years to perform the Settlement duties in, which is all to our own advantage. Several of our friends are now here, and every new Settler who has money, or is industrious, can buy provisions from our neighbours on Talbot Road, and in Westminster, on the opposite side of the River Thames, to last until they can grow them from their own farms. We remain your friends, JAMES MCFARLANE, ARCHIBALD MCFARLANE, JAMES CAMPBELL, JOHN CARMICHAELL. London (U. C.) 20th, May, 1819 Notes. 1. Sue Swiggum identified the ships as the Jane and the Curlew, and the parishes as Comrie, Balquhidder, Weem and Killin. 2. Colonel Talbot was a long serving, but controversial, emigration agent who did much to encourage settlement of South Western Ontario, between London and the Detroit River. Colonel Burwell surveyed the area. 3. Almost all of the Carolinian forest has been stripped from SW Ontario. The land is used for various types of farming, depending on its quality. 4. The names of many passengers on the Curlew were listed in Colonial Office papers and have been transcribed by Sue on http://www.theshipslist.com John Carmichael is listed on the Curlew but the other signatories of the letter are not; perhaps they were on the Jane. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:13:25 -0700 From: "PAUL NICHOLS" Subject: Re: [TSL] Ship Ida Kiss, NY 10 January 1850 To: Message-ID: <034d01c6d79a$fb50f4c0$250110ac@Pauli007> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) has a nice section on their web site that explains immigration records, where and how to find them (with links), that is a great place to start -- http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/immigration/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:27:57 -0300 From: Ilana & Stephan Subject: [TSL] namibia To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.1.20060913222721.027c7cc0@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed To whom it may concern We are in the process of restoring the old jettie in Swakopmund Namibia utilized by the Woermann Linie. Does the Woermann Linie still exist or what does it operate now , who bought them out? Kind regards Stephan ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:20:26 +1000 (EST) From: Indi Barat Subject: [TSL] SS Scotia To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20060914022027.40861.qmail@web55801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Ted This is what I have been waiting for... a BIG thank you for your help. Warm regards Indi --------------------------------- On Yahoo!7 Messenger: Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:50:06 -0400 (EDT) From: af877@freenet.carleton.ca (Harry Dodsworth) Subject: Re: [TSL] Ship Ida Kiss, NY 10 January 1850 To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20060914025006.CEC0224747@smeagol.ncf.ca> "Hoskins" posted: >> Would like info on the Ida Kiss that arrived in New York, 10 January 1850, from Newport, Wales. My gggrandmother was a passenger, arriving with her children, to join my gggrandfather in NE Pennsylvania. The internet only shows one arrival for this ship. Is there any info on this voyage or ship....time taken, size of ship, etc. >> Basic arrival reports can be obtained after September 1851 from the New York Times. There may be a similar report in the New York Herald for the 1850 arrival but I don't have access to that newspaper. Certainly the Magellan list of New York arrivals suggests the Ida Kiss only made one arrival. The ship is not listed in the American registers (1857+) at the Mystic Seaport site. There is a note about an Austrian ship Ida Kiss landing at Albany, Western Australia in 1853 on Mariners list (2005). This queries the method of calculating tonnage. Apparently the Ida Kiss was entered at Albany as 594 tons while the Austrian Maritime Register listed her as 735 tons. Either figure is low for a ship in 1850. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:39:03 EDT From: GMR7815@aol.com Subject: [TSL] NAME OF SHIP ESSEX To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Would there be someone who possibly could do a lookup of the ship ESSEX that arrived in New Orleans about March 1848-1850. I am almost sure that a Sigmund Rapp is listed in the passenger list, I would like to also know where i could get a picture of the ship and possibly a description of it. Thank you ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:42:08 +0100 From: "Ted Finch" Subject: Re: [TSL] namibia To: "Ilana & Stephan" , Message-ID: <006f01c6d7d9$aafb7880$0d7186d9@finch96fpe5ia0> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Stephan, I believe that Woermann Line was taken over by SAFMARINE, Capetown, now part of the Moller-Maersk group of companies. Suggest a call to Safmarine to confirm this. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilana & Stephan" To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [TSL] namibia > > To whom it may concern > > We are in the process of restoring the old jettie in Swakopmund > Namibia utilized by the Woermann Linie. > > Does the Woermann Linie still exist or what does it operate now , who > bought them out? > > Kind regards > > Stephan > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:31:52 -0700 From: Karen Ard Subject: [TSL] (no subject) To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Karen Ard Message-ID: <6AAB9A13-4388-11DB-8BD7-000A95E3FF98@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subscribe ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:50:53 +0100 From: "jwyze1@gmail.com" Subject: [TSL] Overland or by Ship query To: THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello List I hope this question is appropriate to this list and that someone might know the answer. In 1912 my great aunt sailed from Avonmouth, Bristol UK on the Royal Edward to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Her ultimate destination was Minto, New Brunswick. My question is would her journey have continued by sea to the Port of St John NB or overland? If she travelled by ship would it have been a different ship or would the Royal Edward have continued to St John? Also, how long would the journey take? I had always assumed that her journey was overland (she was only seven), but recently considered that perhaps she went by sea. Any information would be useful. -- Regards, Jill ------------------------------ End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 1, Issue 3 ******************************************
Stephan, I believe that Woermann Line was taken over by SAFMARINE, Capetown, now part of the Moller-Maersk group of companies. Suggest a call to Safmarine to confirm this. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilana & Stephan" <isis@mail.na> To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [TSL] namibia > > To whom it may concern > > We are in the process of restoring the old jettie in Swakopmund > Namibia utilized by the Woermann Linie. > > Does the Woermann Linie still exist or what does it operate now , who > bought them out? > > Kind regards > > Stephan > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Would there be someone who possibly could do a lookup of the ship ESSEX that arrived in New Orleans about March 1848-1850. I am almost sure that a Sigmund Rapp is listed in the passenger list, I would like to also know where i could get a picture of the ship and possibly a description of it. Thank you
"Hoskins" <hoskinsr@broadreach.net> posted: >> Would like info on the Ida Kiss that arrived in New York, 10 January 1850, from Newport, Wales. My gggrandmother was a passenger, arriving with her children, to join my gggrandfather in NE Pennsylvania. The internet only shows one arrival for this ship. Is there any info on this voyage or ship....time taken, size of ship, etc. >> Basic arrival reports can be obtained after September 1851 from the New York Times. There may be a similar report in the New York Herald for the 1850 arrival but I don't have access to that newspaper. Certainly the Magellan list of New York arrivals suggests the Ida Kiss only made one arrival. The ship is not listed in the American registers (1857+) at the Mystic Seaport site. There is a note about an Austrian ship Ida Kiss landing at Albany, Western Australia in 1853 on Mariners list (2005). This queries the method of calculating tonnage. Apparently the Ida Kiss was entered at Albany as 594 tons while the Austrian Maritime Register listed her as 735 tons. Either figure is low for a ship in 1850. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------
To whom it may concern We are in the process of restoring the old jettie in Swakopmund Namibia utilized by the Woermann Linie. Does the Woermann Linie still exist or what does it operate now , who bought them out? Kind regards Stephan
Montreal Gazette, July 7, 1819 To the Emigrants who arrived at Quebec in the summer of 1818, and who came in the Jane of Greenock, and the Carlow of London, from the parishes of Comera, Balyhidder, Weems, and Killice in Perthshire, North Britain [1]. When we parted from you at Montreal for this part of the Country, we promised to inform you of the advantages, which we might find it to possess. You are probably so scattered about now, that we cannot inform you in any other way than by addressing you a letter in a newspaper; and we earnestly hope, that the Editors of other papers, will be kind enough to give our letter one insertion, that you may all have the opportunity of hearing from us. We have been of the party of Colonel Burwell, and assisted him to Survey about seventy thousand acres of land, in the Township of London, which we have just completed, and Colonel Talbot has just located us upon one hundred acres each. The Township of London is bounded in front by the river Thames, and is well watered by the north branch of it, and a great many smaller branches which intersect every Concession in the Township; some of which are very excellent for Mill seats. The land is of the finest quality we ever saw. The soil is generally very black and deep; and at the same time, intermixed with a small quantity of white sand. The Timber is Sugar Maple, Elm, white Oak, Butternut, Cherry, and Basswood. We have not passed through a lot, but that we have seen some Butternut trees, under which, the ground was frequently almost covered with Butternuts at this season of the year. The pack-men of our party have often gathered, and brought quantities of them, to where we have encamped at night, and cracked as many as we wished. Towards the last of April, and the first of this month, they have been as fine and dry amongst the leaves of last year, as though they had been kept in a house. Several persons who have removed from the Eastern part of this Province, and now live near this place, have informed us, that the wintering of Cattle and Horses does not cost more than half as much here as there. When we left Scotland, the Ministers of our parishes begged us to settle near each other, which we sincerely wish and hope, that such of you as are not settled to your satisfaction, will come to this part of the Province, and now live near this place. You will certainly like the country when you see it. We have had no trouble in getting our lands. When we made choice of them, we applied to Colonel Talbot, and we have two years to perform the Settlement duties in, which is all to our own advantage. Several of our friends are now here, and every new Settler who has money, or is industrious, can buy provisions from our neighbours on Talbot Road, and in Westminster, on the opposite side of the River Thames, to last until they can grow them from their own farms. We remain your friends, JAMES MCFARLANE, ARCHIBALD MCFARLANE, JAMES CAMPBELL, JOHN CARMICHAELL. London (U. C.) 20th, May, 1819 Notes. 1. Sue Swiggum identified the ships as the Jane and the Curlew, and the parishes as Comrie, Balquhidder, Weem and Killin. 2. Colonel Talbot was a long serving, but controversial, emigration agent who did much to encourage settlement of South Western Ontario, between London and the Detroit River. Colonel Burwell surveyed the area. 3. Almost all of the Carolinian forest has been stripped from SW Ontario. The land is used for various types of farming, depending on its quality. 4. The names of many passengers on the Curlew were listed in Colonial Office papers and have been transcribed by Sue on http://www.theshipslist.com John Carmichael is listed on the Curlew but the other signatories of the letter are not; perhaps they were on the Jane. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------
Would like info on the Ida Kiss that arrived in New York, 10 January 1850, from Newport, Wales. My gggrandmother was a passenger, arriving with her children, to join my gggrandfather in NE Pennsylvania. The internet only shows one arrival for this ship. Is there any info on this voyage or ship....time taken, size of ship, etc
The NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) has a nice section on their web site that explains immigration records, where and how to find them (with links), that is a great place to start -- http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/immigration/
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Marybeth In the NY Times of Oct 8, 1858 is this in the Marine Intelligence column SAILED--Steamships St. Louis, McGowan, Aspinwall;... So the St. Louis did indeed sail on Thursday, Oct. 7. Since you do not have a ship name for Sept 29 here is the list of arrivals that day: Steamship Arabia, Stone, Liverpool, Sept. 18 Steamship Prince Albert, (Br., screw,) Waters, Galway, Sept 14, via Halifax, N.S. Now, the Prince Albert brought up from Halifax 10 passengers from the wreck of the Austria. Your Patrick does not appear in the cabin passenger list for either of the above ships. Regards.. Marj At 12:59 PM 9/13/2006, MStev93399@aol.com wrote: >A book on California history contains this reference to a family member, >Patrick Tormey, when discussing Contra Costa County on page 631: > >"In September 1858, he sailed with three sisters and a brother from Galway >to the United States. Arriving in New York on September 29th of that year, >he >remained in that city only a short time, and on the 7th of October, in >company > with Hon. D.N. Sherburne, of Syracuse Valley, sailed for the Isthmus of >Panama in the steamer St. Louis. From the Isthmus the journey to San >Francisco >was continued on the Louisa, which landed on the last day of October, 1858." > >I would very much appreciate help in locating the manifests for all three >portions of Patrick's journey. > >Thank you, Marybeth Tormey Stevens > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"The ss Scotia left Calcutta for Penang on 17.6.1876. She is believed to have floundered at sea with all hands on board. Her Chief Engineer was T A Nicholas and 2nd Engineer, brother N.A. Nicholas Jnr." These details have just come to hand. Would any lister be aware of the above or can point me in the right direction please ? Sincerely appreciate any assistance. Indi --------------------------------- On Yahoo!7 360°: Your blog, photos, interests, and what matters to you
Hello Indi, SCOTIA 1857 1,168 gross tons, length 241ft x beam 30.2ft, one funnel, two masts (rigged for sail), clipper bows, iron hull, single screw, speed 11 knots. Accommodation for 24-1st class passengers plus troops. Built 1857 by Robert Steele & Co, Greenock for Robert Steele & Partners she made her maiden voyage on 4th Sep.1857 with troops to Bombay. In 1859 she was sold to the Greek & Oriental S.N. Co, Glasgow. 1863 sold to Fleming & Gambler, London. 1865 owned by Carr & Co, London. 1868 Sank in the River Clyde, salvaged and sold to Peter Denny and James Galbraith. Repaired and rebuilt by Wm. Denny & Bros and sold to British India Steam Navigation Co. 1876 sold. 17th Jun.1876 sailed from Calcutta on her delivery voyage to new owners at Penang and never heard of again. These were the days before radio so it will never be known what happened to her. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indi Barat" <elafafa@yahoo.com.au> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: [TSL] SS Scotia - 1876 > "The ss Scotia left Calcutta for Penang on 17.6.1876. She is believed to > have floundered at sea with all hands on board. > > Her Chief Engineer was T A Nicholas and 2nd Engineer, brother N.A. > Nicholas Jnr." > > These details have just come to hand. > > Would any lister be aware of the above or can point me in the right > direction please ? > > Sincerely appreciate any assistance. > > Indi > > > > > > --------------------------------- > On Yahoo!7 > 360°: Your blog, photos, interests, and what matters to you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
A book on California history contains this reference to a family member, Patrick Tormey, when discussing Contra Costa County on page 631: "In September 1858, he sailed with three sisters and a brother from Galway to the United States. Arriving in New York on September 29th of that year, he remained in that city only a short time, and on the 7th of October, in company with Hon. D.N. Sherburne, of Syracuse Valley, sailed for the Isthmus of Panama in the steamer St. Louis. From the Isthmus the journey to San Francisco was continued on the Louisa, which landed on the last day of October, 1858." I would very much appreciate help in locating the manifests for all three portions of Patrick's journey. Thank you, Marybeth Tormey Stevens
At 10:53 AM 2006-09-13 -0300, NORM VAN NESS wrote: >I am looking for any and all records on my grandmother > > >Name: FELICIA TERESA UNDRO >SHE IMMIGRATED TO THE US AROUND 1910 TO 1920 >SHE WAS FROM POLAND OR RUSSIA?? >AND SHE CAME WITH HER DAUGHTER MARIA AND JULIA >PLEASE SEND ME ANY AND ALL INFO YOU MAY FIND ON HER? >AND ALSO WHERE I MAY LOOK TO FIND HER Using Steve Morse's one-step pages for searching Ellis Island website, I found these http://www.stevemorse.org/ First Name: Felicia Last Name: Undro Ethnicity: Russia Last Place of Residence: Intomishnz, Russia Date of Arrival: Aug 29, 1910 Age at Arrival: 31y Gender: F Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Birma Port of Departure: Liban [sic] <--------- Libau Manifest Line Number: 0020 First Name: Maria Last Name: Undro Ethnicity: Russian Last Place of Residence: Intomishnz, Russia Date of Arrival: Aug 29, 1910 Age at Arrival: 4y Gender: F Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Birma Port of Departure: Liban Manifest Line Number: 0021 They are Lithuanian and are going to husband / father Mr. D. Undra ? at Grand Rapids MI. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/
I am looking for any and all records on my grandmother Name: FELICIA TERESA UNDRO SHE IMMIGRATED TO THE US AROUND 1910 TO 1920 SHE WAS FROM POLAND OR RUSSIA?? AND SHE CAME WITH HER DAUGHTER MARIA AND JULIA PLEASE SEND ME ANY AND ALL INFO YOU MAY FIND ON HER? AND ALSO WHERE I MAY LOOK TO FIND HER
On 11 Sep 2006 at 20:13, Judy wrote: > I have been unable to find a book or CD that would list the > passenger list for the President Grant ship which embarked > from Hamburg and arrived at Ellis Island in Dec 1907. The > CD's don't come made for MacIntosh computers. I found my > grandfather on this ship but not my grandmother. I have > heard that they met on the ship. Her name was Sarah Weiss > but could be listed as Sarah Edis or Edisis if it was > changed. Her name does not turn up for any ship on Ellis > Island.org (But sometimes my grandfathers doesn't turn up > and sometimes his name does turn up). Sarah was from > Bassarabia Russia. I am trying to find out what town she > came from. Thank you, whoever has time to check. Judy Judy If you go to http://www.stevemorse.org/ and use his search engines to bring up the ship you want, you can scroll through the passenger list, page by page. That will allow you to see if your Sarah is there and just missed in the indexing or badly mistranscribed Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
On 12 Sep 2006 at 10:25, Derek Reay wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if anyone can offer any guidance regarding one of > my Ancestors who emigrated to Toronto from England. > > His name was James Lyne Seekings, born November 1882, in > Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. He married Edith > Jerald/Gerrard in Toronto in August 1914, and Edith died in > December 1821. Her death certificate shows that she had > been in Toronto for 8 years. I believe that she also > emigrated from the U.K. and it is possible that they both > arrived in Toronto together. > Hello Derek The National Archives of Canada (NAC) holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. Unfortunately the records before 1925 are not indexed. To find a passenger you will need to know an exact date of arrival. There is no easy way to search Canadian arrival records for the unindexed period other than reading microfilm. Ships are on the reel, in order of arrival. You can find the details at this URL http://www.archives.ca/02/020202_e.html If you want to order filmed passenger lists (remember they aren't indexed!), a list of NAC microfilm numbers for passenger lists to Canada 1865-1922 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_can1865.shtml If you are patient, you will soon (?) be able to search these unindexed years! Library and Archives Canada plans to digitize passenger lists for 1865 to 1935 as part of their new Moving Here, Staying Here online exhibition at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/immigrants/index-e.html ********************** What's Available Online in Passenger Lists If you want to try your luck searching transcribed ships passenger lists online, passenger lists for Ships to Canada after 1865 are freely available at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1865-now.shtml Passenger Lists 1925-1935 are indexed and online at ArchiviaNet at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/02011801_e.html Home Children (1869-1930) database indexes from ships passenger lists is available at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/020110_e.html Nanaimo Family History Society has a Passenger List Indexing Project for 1900-1921 online at http://members.shaw.ca/nanaimo.fhs/ ********************** There are search engines to search online free databases on multiple websites for ships to Canada at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml The Ontario Archives has an index to the assisted immigration registers created by the Toronto Emigrant Office between 1865 and 1883. Over 29,000 entries have been transcribed from the registers. http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm ********************** Miscellaneous Websites with Immigration Information on Ships to Canada after 1865 The Ships List http://www.theshipslist.com/ Ships Passenger Lists Online http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ Finding Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/canada/ Ships Passenger Lists to Canada 1865-1930 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1865-now.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
Hello Derek: I found an Edith Gerrard on the 1911 Census in York South, East York Sub District. If you go to http://automatedgenealogy.com, you can check out the transcription for District: York South, Sub -District: East York, Enumeration District 11. The image of the census page is available at www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index.html on page 21, line 44. It appears that Edith and a Paul Gerrard were two of four boarders in the household of Mary Hunter and four of her children, at 217 Don Mills Road (now Broadview/O'Connor). James Seekings does not appear. I am not aware if the district has been completely transcribed yet. johanna Ontario, Can. Message: 9 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:25:31 +0100 From: "Derek Reay" <derek.reay@ntlworld.com> Subject: [TSL] Emigration from England to Canada To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <009201c6d64d$65f68b40$cf121e52@yourdv9zevnzek> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I wonder if anyone can offer any guidance regarding one of my Ancestors who emigrated to Toronto from England. His name was James Lyne Seekings, born November 1882, in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. He married Edith Jerald/Gerrard in Toronto in August 1914, and Edith died in December 1821. Her death certificate shows that she had been in Toronto for 8 years. I believe that she also emigrated from the U.K. and it is possible that they both arrived in Toronto together. Can anyone advise as to the best method of searching for any details of their passage to Canada. Could I obtain any microfilm, here in the U.K via the local LDS office. Or will these details be available at some stage on the internet. Many thanks for reading this. Regards, Derek _________________________________________________________________ Dont waste time standing in linetry shopping online. Visit Sympatico / MSN Shopping today! http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca
Hi, I wonder if anyone can offer any guidance regarding one of my Ancestors who emigrated to Toronto from England. His name was James Lyne Seekings, born November 1882, in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. He married Edith Jerald/Gerrard in Toronto in August 1914, and Edith died in December 1821. Her death certificate shows that she had been in Toronto for 8 years. I believe that she also emigrated from the U.K. and it is possible that they both arrived in Toronto together. Can anyone advise as to the best method of searching for any details of their passage to Canada. Could I obtain any microfilm, here in the U.K via the local LDS office. Or will these details be available at some stage on the internet. Many thanks for reading this. Regards, Derek
Ken, This was a different vessel. Yours was a passenger paddle seamer on Lake Ontario. There is mention of it at http://www.hhpl.on.ca/Greatlakes/Documents/Robert2/default.asp?ID=c015 The Norseman, a side wheel steamer of 422 tons, was built at Montreal in 1868 by Cantin. Gildersleeve of Kingston was her owner After running from Toronto to Rochester for many seasons, she was rebuilt in 1891, and her name changed to North King. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: KenTemp@aol.com To: mariners-l@efinch90.fsnet.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Steamer Norseman Ted: Thanks for the quick reply. I have a season pass for a steamer "Norseman." The pass is green in color the and measures about 1 1/4 x 2 1/2 inches. The front panel is trimmed with gold-colored ink with 1870 Season Pass surrounded by a doubled lined circle imprinted in gold ink. The back panel has the words "Steamer Norseman - Lake Ontario." This panel also has an image of a streamer. The inside panels indicates that the pass is a free season pass and states that the hold promises not to hold the "Proprietor" liable. The pass was printed by "Creighton, Printer, Kingston." Would it be your opinion that the Norseman pass I have is the same Norsemen that you know? Thanks... Ken