Just a thought on passengers leaving Ireland during this period; if they were on route to the US would the ships have called into Liverpool on the way or would it have been the other way around? I know there are no records of the Irish coming over to England, but I wondered if they may have been on the same ships? Juliet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Hess" <lindajhess729@yahoo.com> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: [TSL] Departure: Ireland 12 Jan 1846 & Arrival: Boston: on or about1 April 1846 > Looking for a passenger list containing: > > Martin Rooney, born County Mayo, Jan 1826 > Left Ireland 12 January 1846 > Arrived in Boston on or about 1 April 1846 > > I don't know if he was traveling alone or with someone. He lived in Union > County, IN by 1850, but I don't know his intended destination at the time > of his voyage. > > Linda Rooney Hess > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jeffrey Mills <jamills@mac.com> posted: >> Another member of the list was kind enough to forward this to me: From the NY Times of Nov 27, 1869 in the Marine Intelligence column Ship Hudson, Pratt, from London Oct. 23, and Isle of Wight 26th, with mdse. and 293 passengers, which arrived 25th, and anchored outside the Bar, came up to the City this P.M., and reports having had fine weather up to the Banks, since mostly W. and N.W. gales; been 15 ds. to the westward of the Banks; Nov. 12, was in co. with ship Edith, (*Br.,) from Liverpool for New York. From it, though, I have a couple of questions about what things might mean. what is "anchored outside the bar" at the port of New York or New York City? the ship Edith is followed by (*Br.,)...any idea what that might mean? >> Marj Kohli posted this extract from the online NYT version. I was also interested in it and tried to check it on the microfilm version but I could not find it in Marine Intelligence of the given date. The Hudson River brings down huge quantities of silt. This is deposited at the river mouth. The harbor was filled with sand banks and a bar. These have to be dredged continuously today to allow big ships to use the port. In the 1850s, ships would wait for the tide to cross the bar. The usual suffix (Br.,) means that the ship Edith was British flag. In co. usually means in company, that is sailing together. This is more common at a departure port than in mid-Atlantic. I was wondering, in view of the original question, if it meant in collision in this case, so I wanted to see the original reference and also the arrival notice for the Edith. I found neither. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

I would like to find the Shipping List for the Ship Pomona, that arrived in Quebec in 1871. Has this shipping list been transcribed as I am looking for the family of John OXFORD, his wife Frances (Fanny) and nine children. Their destination was Weston. They settled in Lobo, Middlesex County,Ontario. I hope someone maybe able to help Michelle Cook Christchurch New Zealand Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Thomas Couch died in 1691 as did his mother Mary Couch "voyaging to England". They were residents of Fairfield, CT and were originally from Devonshire, England I can't seem to locate ship records in this time frame. I was wondering if this was a shipwreck or illness or what? Can anyone help?

G'day. All! I need some help with this one, please? 1st part of question Maley Bailey (Amalia Augusta Gulbransen from Christiania, Norway) married my Grandpa Jesse Mederic Bailey in 1895 (family story is in Elyria, OH -- there is no record of this marriage, there) Variations in spelling: Gul/Gil/Guld/Gild-bran/bron/brand/brond-sen/son Ancestry.com shows her Immigration as 1872...and, I have located (with Sue Swiggum's assistance) a passenger record for a Gulbrandsen family to Quebec in late 1871... however, when I read the actual Census document, it appears (to me) that she immigrated in 1892 -- also, the length of time she has been in the US is shown as either 8 or 18 .... however, in 1900 subtracting 18 years gets me to 1882, whereas 8 gets me to 1892....so, perhaps it is worthwhile looking for her in a ships list in 1892.... Anyone else who could look at this and share their opinion, please? http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=OHT623_1271-0 737&fn=Maley&ln=Bailey&st=r&ssrc=&pid=40100387 Name: Maley Bailey Home in 1900: Claridon, Geauga, Ohio Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 BirthPlace: Norway Relationship to head-of-house: Wife Spouses's Name: Mederic Race: White Occupation: View Image Immigration year: 1872 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mederic Bailey 35 Maley Bailey 33 Sibley Bailey 3 Frinan Bailey 1 Tr?? Bailey 59 By the way, Tr?? is my G'Granmother, Tryphene Johnene Chyst b. 1842 (her age in 1900 would have been 58) in Greenwood, Crawford Co., PA. Father was Daniel Fredrick Chryst, mother was Mariah Grove 2nd part of question: Where to look for 1892 passenger lists? Ellis Island, of course -- done that, and she is not there The Digitalarkivet for emigration http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?spraak=e <http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?spraak=e> <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read> done that, and she is not there Norwegian Heritage http://www.norwayheritage.com/pasquest.asp -- no 1892 passenger lists Ancestry.com - done that, and she is not there TheShipsList -- no 1892 passenger lists done that, and she is not there And, then, there is Canada.....but that is a very long trip for me! Any assistance? Joseph F. Bailey www.baileywick.com <http://www.baileywick.com/> SKYPE: BaileyWick Messenger: JFBaileyWick 1.408.867.7816 "We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are." by Anais Nin "We have met the enemy and they are us." -- comic strip character Pogo, by Walt Kelly "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." --Edward R. Murrow

Looking for a passenger list containing: Martin Rooney, born County Mayo, Jan 1826 Left Ireland 12 January 1846 Arrived in Boston on or about 1 April 1846 I don't know if he was traveling alone or with someone. He lived in Union County, IN by 1850, but I don't know his intended destination at the time of his voyage. Linda Rooney Hess --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

At 03:46 PM 2006-09-19 +1200, Michelle Cook wrote: >I would like to find the Shipping List for the Ship Pomona, that arrived >in Quebec in 1871. Has this shipping list been transcribed as I am looking >for the family of John OXFORD, his wife Frances (Fanny) and nine children. >Their destination was Weston. They settled in Lobo, Middlesex County,Ontario. > > I hope someone maybe able to help > > Michelle Cook > Christchurch > New Zealand Hi Michelle, I am not aware of any online transcription for the POMONA 1871 list, but it is easy enough to view / copy the microfilm of the original, even in New Zealand. From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4526 POMONA Liverpool, England 1871-04-06 Quebec, Que. 1871-04-28 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) - sailing ship (U): National Emigration League (13) & (J): Market Weighton Reformatory, Yorkshire (7) & (J): Mount St. Bernard Reformatory, Leicestershire (2) & (U): Bristol and Clifton Emigration Club (9) & (U): Mr. Bate, Dorsetshire (37) & (U): Bristol Club (7) & (U): Mr. Currie, Poplar List Number: 5; Captain James Bruce In 1871 there were fewer and fewer sailing vessels carrying passengers, but POMONA was one of them, an iron ship, which belonged to Allan Line http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/allan.html As you can see of some of the idenitiable groups on board, two small goups of boys and four groups from "emigration clubs." The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889446 ~ 1871 ~ port of Quebec Sue --

Another member of the list was kind enough to forward this to me: From the NY Times of Nov 27, 1869 in the Marine Intelligence column Ship Hudson, Pratt, from London Oct. 23, and Isle of Wight 26th, with mdse. and 293 passengers, which arrived 25th, and anchored outside the Bar, came up to the City this P.M., and reports having had fine weather up to the Banks, since mostly W. and N.W. gales; been 15 ds. to the westward of the Banks; Nov. 12, was in co. with ship Edith, (*Br.,) from Liverpool for New York. From it, though, I have a couple of questions about what things might mean. what is "anchored outside the bar" at the port of New York or New York City? the ship Edith is followed by (*Br.,)...any idea what that might mean? i'd appreciate it if you can shed some light here for me! Thanks Jeff

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Hello Colm, At 08:43 PM 2006-09-17 -0300, Colm Hasson wrote: >Dear S Swiggum > >Two of my relatives who had earlier emigrated to America returned to >Ireland for periods ­ later each returned by Anchor Line from >Londonderry to New York. > >One on the Caledonia in May 1906 and one on the Tasconia in November 1916. The second ship you name is spelled TUSCANIA and arrived at New York, November 29th 1916. The CALEDONIA arrived at New Yok on May 26th 1906. >Is it possible for me to find when they arrived in Ireland ­ perhaps >about one or two months earlier? Not really, although I know New York sailing dates for Anchor Line ships, no "outbound" passenger lists survive, in North America. Have you seen the passenger lists for the above arrivals on the Ellis Island website? If you study those, on the 2nd page of the manifest it might show "have you been in the US before" and "if so, when" If they were already naturalized US citizens, then that column may not have any notation. If you do get a clue about the date they left the US (other than simply a 'year') then you could check the Shipping section for the Londonderry newspapers to see which ships arrived in the right time frame. I use Steve Morse's one-step forms for searching Ellis Island records. http://www.stevemorse.org/index.html Sue --

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for September 2006 is . . . o Accounts: o Impressions of New Orleans, 1853 This is the item which Harry posted to TSL a while ago and has given permission to republish on TheShipsList website. I have added a picture of the port New Orleans 1852 to illustrate, however it was not original to the New York Times article. o Fleets new: o Horn Line with subsidiaries o Compañia Trasmediterránea fully updated Two more great Fleets for TheShipsList website. Technically the Spanish Compañia Trasmediterránea isn't "new" for us, but it grew from just five ships listed to about 170. o Passengers: o Lady Sherbrooke - 7th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 10th June 1826 o Lady Sherbrooke - 8th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 18th June 1826 o Lady Sherbrooke - 9th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 25th June 1826 o Lady Sherbrooke - 10th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 29th June 1826 o Lady Sherbrooke - 11th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 4th July 1826 Five more Lady Sherbrooke steamboat lists. Although I have suspected that some may have "worked passage" on the steamboats, from Quebec to Montreal, I have just begun to see the notations. eg. on June 10th 1826 25 William Scott x x -/10/- no money, worked [passage] 26 — McDeverick x x -/10/- no money, worked [passage] I often see "had no more" money notations for people who usually leave something as a "pledge" to pay in the future. I've seen bundles ; luggage ; chests ; bandbox ; Beaver hat ; gloves ; Watches ; guns ; coats ; kedge anchors ; tools ; umbrella ; silver spoons & bed curtains ; feather bed ; pocketbook ; flute, to name just a few. I often wonder whether they do all pay, because I don't always see added notes about the monies paid on a certain date and the pledge item crossed off the list, although I have seen some. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy ! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi Listers, I wonder if anyone can offer any guidance regarding a search for the MANN family, including Josef and Maria Mann arriving Montreal in July or August 1911. The anecdote is that "Josef was 6 months old, (born February 28, 1911 in Besarabia) when the family emigrated to Canada. They arrived on a ship which sailed from Odessa". It appears the ship would have arrived in July or August. I have searched for a while without a hint of how to find them. This effort is as a favor for our Minister - Pastor Robert Mann, a son of the immigrant family. Thanks in advance, appreciate your help. Ernie Misch in Royal Oak, MI

I am looking for a ship supposedly from Co. Cork to Quebec. It was shipwrecked off Quebec. A father and mother drown but their son who was born in 1840 in Co. Cork was saved and a family named Pero/Perro took him in. Don't know if they adopted him or not but he went by the name of Nelson Pero/Perro in Buckingham, Quebec. I can find shipwrecks around 1842/1856 but no passengers listed. Any information on a particular ship from Ireland to Quebec in that time would be greatly appreciated. TIA Dot in NH

Can you tell me If one of the ships had a Captain Ellsworth who I believe married a miss Allan Regards Scribe

Dear S Swiggum Two of my relatives who had earlier emigrated to America returned to Ireland for periods ­ later each returned by Anchor Line from Londonderry to New York. One on the Caledonia in May 1906 and one on the Tasconia in November 1916. Is it possible for me to find when they arrived in Ireland ­ perhaps about one or two months earlier? And if so how can I get the details. Yours sincerely Colm Hasson Belfast

My grandmother ( Annie Ward ) arrived in Canada from Ireland in 1910 or 1911 at the age of 18 . I don't have a Departure port or date , nor an Arrival port, no ship name , but I do know she likely was going to Winnipeg but don't know what district in Winnipeg. Where on earth do I begin ???

Hello Iain, Here is all I have on this ship - Picture of what purports to be the STROMBOLI at http://www.schiffspost.com/flotte_stromboli.htm but this is a paddle steamer so is obviously the wrong ship! Try Don Hazeldine at http://freespace.virgin.net/donald.hazeldine/Passenger.htm although he doesn't list it, he may have one. STROMBOLI 1856 734 gross tons, length 198.4ft x beam 28.8ft, one funnel, two masts (rigged for sail), clipper bows, iron hull, single screw, speed 9 knots. Built 1856 by J & G. Thomson & Co, Glasgow for Cunard's Liverpool - Mediterranean services, also served on the Liverpool - Le Havre route. 1877 re-engined. 1878 Lost off the Lizard, Cornwall. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Davenport" <iainadavenport@mac.com> To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:47 AM Subject: [TSL] A request for assistance. > Dear Sir, > > I have been searching for information on S.S. Stromboli and thanks to > your site have found at least some details of her history. > Unfortunately your web site is the only information I can find. I > would be very grateful if you could provide me with some advice as to > where I could look for more information. This ship is significant to > my family as my Great Great Grandfather served as a fireman on her > between 1861 and 1871 according to the census records. > > Thank you in advance for your time. > > Regards > > Iain Davenport > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >