I am trying to find the arrival in Honolulu from Australia (perhaps via San Francisco, as some of the ships from the colonies went first to SF then back down to Honolulu) during the period approx. 1889 -1894 of Joseph Sharp (b. Leeds, Yorkshire about 1836) Joseph Harold Sharp (may just be traveling as Harold; born Leeds, 1872) Robert William Sharp (b. Bolton/Bradford/Yorkshire Eng. 1876) Cecil Sharp (b. either in Leeds, Yorkshire, Eng., or in Australia, perhaps Hobart, Tasmania; 1880 or 1881, or 1884) Family sometimes used Sharpe (with the "e"). I have part of this family into Honolulu on the SS Alameda Sydney to Honolulu, departed July 18th 1894; arrived July 26th 1894: Mrs. Sarah Sharp, English, age 50, last residence Melbourne, destination in the Hawaiian Islands = Honolulu, occupation = wife; object of coming to the Hawaiian Islands = residence, remarks = Husband at Honolulu. Mrs. Ena Sharp, age 28, daughter [etc.] Miss F. Sharp, 23, daughter [etc.] Circy Sharp, 11 mth, child [etc.] Roseland Sharp, 6 yr., child [etc.] This family, plus others, and except for Roseland who was born in Melbourne, arrived in Hobart on the SS Gulf of Carpentaria: S.S. Gulf of Carpentaria from London to Hobart, sailed [looks like] 10th December 1883, arrived 3rd February 1884. Sharp family including F127 Sharp, Sarah, 44, C of E, R&W, Leeds England, on whose application: Joseph Sharp; remarks: Gone on shore. " , Harold, 11, C of E, R&W, Leeds, [etc., same as Sarah] " , Robert, 9 [etc.] " , Maggie, 7 [etc.] " , Cecil, 2 [he is listed as 2, but was 3; also listed as female instead of male] ***** see my question below M128 Sharp, Augustus P., 13 [etc.] F129 Sharp, Sarah, 22, [etc.], needlewoman F130 Sharp, Alice E., 20 [etc.], needlewoman F131 Sharp, Florence B., 14 [etc.]. F183 [?] Sharp, Lilian, 16 [etc.], with F127; Mr. Joseph Sharp Parkville House Hobart will receive her. I brought in the LDS film of the Hawaii State Archives' Index to Passengers (general) Early to 1900, but the frontispiece, and indeed the index cards, only went to 1879, except for one of "mine" misfiled; she arrived in Honolulu in 1895. Barring bringing in all the ship manifest films - and I did start to do this and didn't find them starting in 1889 - I am not sure how else to do this. Any suggestions for where I should go next? Thanks. Marie

Does anyone have access to the ship's list for the SS Alameda Sydney to Honolulu, departed July 18th 1894; arrived July 26th 1894? See my question at the bottom of all this. Listed therein are a few Sharp family members: Mrs. Sarah Sharp, English, age 50, last residence Melbourne, destination in the Hawaiian Islands = Honolulu, occupation = wife; object of coming to the Hawaiian Islands = residence, remarks = Husband at Honolulu. Mrs. Ena Sharp, age 28, daughter [etc.] Miss F. Sharp, 23, daughter [etc.] Circy Sharp, 11 mth, child [etc.] Roseland Sharp, 6 yr., child [etc.] This family, plus others, and except for Roseland who was born in Melbourne, arrived in Hobart on the SS Gulf of Carpentaria: S.S. Gulf of Carpentaria from London to Hobart, sailed [looks like] 10th December 1883, arrived 3rd February 1884. Sharp family including F127 Sharp, Sarah, 44, C of E, R&W, Leeds England, on whose application: Joseph Sharp; remarks: Gone on shore. " , Harold, 11, C of E, R&W, Leeds, [etc., same as Sarah] " , Robert, 9 [etc.] " , Maggie, 7 [etc.] " , Cecil, 2 [he is listed as 2, but was 3; also listed as female instead of male] ***** see my question below M128 Sharp, Augustus P., 13 [etc.] F129 Sharp, Sarah, 22, [etc.], needlewoman F130 Sharp, Alice E., 20 [etc.], needlewoman F131 Sharp, Florence B., 14 [etc.]. F183 [?] Sharp, Lilian, 16 [etc.], with F127; Mr. Joseph Sharp Parkville House Hobart will receive her. My questions: We are trying to figure out if the Cecil on the 1883/4 Gulf of Carpentaria list is the "Circy" 11 mth. (or yrs. -- can't make out that abbreviation) in July 1894 on the S.S. Alameda. Ships' lists are often wrong with the ages, and these are no exceptions, but this Circy doesn't fit if it is 11 months and doesn't fit if it is 11 years, and no Cecil to Honolulu. Also, the Circy to Honolulu is just "child" - no gender. (Cecil was born in Leeds Oct 1880; definitely a male.) Can anyone confirm that Circy's age is 11 months rather than years? Can anyone find a Cecil to Honolulu in those years (1889-1894)? I am also looking for the husband/father and another son into Honolulu, which will be the subject of another post. Any suggestions for where I should go next? Thanks. Marie

I am looking for a ship's log for this ship, as I wonder if one of the passengers (see below) died on the voyage but was not crossed off on the list, and no notation was made under "remarks". This is what we know: S.S. Gulf of Carpentaria from London to Hobart, sailed [looks like] 10th December 1883, arrived 3rd February 1884. Sharp family including F127 Sharp, Sarah, 44, C of E, R&W, Leeds England, on whose application: Joseph Sharp; remarks: Gone on shore. " , Harold, 11, C of E, R&W, Leeds, [etc., same as Sarah] " , Robert, 9 [etc.] " , Maggie, 7 [etc.] " , Cecil, 2 [he is listed as 2, but was 3; also listed as female instead of male] ***** see my question below M128 Sharp, Augustus P., 13 [etc.] F129 Sharp, Sarah, 22, [etc.], needlewoman F130 Sharp, Alice E., 20 [etc.], needlewoman F131 Sharp, Florence B., 14 [etc.]. F183 [?] Sharp, Lilian, 16 [etc.], with F127; Mr. Joseph Sharp Parkville House Hobart will receive her. ***** We are trying to find out if this Cecil died on the voyage. I realize that the name should have been crossed off and a notation made under remarks", but barring that would there have been a notation in the ship's log? We are trying to figure out if this Cecil is the "Circy" 11 mos. (or yrs. -- can't make out that abbreviation) that accompanied some of the family to Honolulu from Sydney in July 1894 on the S.S. Alameda. Ships' lists are often wrong with the ages, and these are no exceptions, but this Circy doesn t fit if it is 11 months and doesn't fit if it is 11 years, and no Cecil to Honolulu. Also, the Circy to Honolulu is just "child" - no gender. (Cecil was born in Leeds Oct 1880; definitely a male). I will post this latter under another subject, too. Any suggestions for where I should go next? Thanks. Marie

I recently posted a snippet about lack of passenger lists in 1834 (I am reposting it for continuity). This brought the query from Bob Neil of Chatham, Ontario. I don't know details of Lake Erie shipping but I checked the Canadian Emigrant, a newspaper published in Sandwich and found the other two snippets. Montreal Gazette, July 15, 1834 The steamer Adelaide was in on Monday and left a few passengers and pursued her course to Sandwich [Windsor]. The Thames also came in on Monday night with a number of passengers. We regret that we are not furnished with lists of the passengers arriving by the steamers - for as many of the passengers arriving have come from New York via Buffalo, they are not enumerated with others in coming to the Province. >From St. Thomas Journal. ------------------------ I found my ancestors, after 11 years of searching, arriving at New York on June 21, 1834 on the Barque 'Lady of the Lake' from Greenock, Scotland. I 'assume' they would then travel up to Albany then via the newly opened (1833) Erie Canal to Buffalo. Your post now makes me wonder if they could have then gone across Lake Erie on one of the steamers you mentioned. They went to Kent County. The trip from New York City to Buffalo would not have likely taken a month, so did the two steamers make regular trips from Buffalo across the lake and to which ports? I've often wondered now how they would have arrived here having no wagons or such. Bob Neil, Chatham-Kent, ON. Edited. Posted with permission. --------------------------- Most local papers had advertisements for ships but the Canadian Emigrant didn't. I did gather that steamboats ran frequently on Lake Erie. This snippet was extracted from a story praising the opportunities in the Western District (Essex and Kent counties; Chatham is the centre of Kent County). Canadian Emigrant, Sandwich, U.C., August 22, 1835 Emigrants coming from New York to Buffalo, can take the steamboat from thence to Detroit (2d cabin $2 or $3). From that city they can be conveyed in sailboats, which ply weekly to Chatham, on the River Thames. It is expected that a steamboat will ply on that route shortly. Emigrants coming from Montreal will be conveyed by steamers to Queenston; from whence they travel by land to Chippawa (passing the Falls of Niagara) where they will find steamboats plying to Port Stanley, in the London District. But this route is above 100 miles from the settled part of the Co. Kent, and, unless they wish to view the interjacent country, far more expensive than proceeding to Buffalo by the Welland Canal, and then taking the steamboat to Detroit, as before mentioned. [The Welland Canal, joining Lakes Ontario and Erie, opened in 1834] So a reasonable route from Buffalo to Chatham would have been by steamboat to Detroit or Sandwich, and sailboat to Chatham. Although Chatham is only 30 miles from Lake Erie, there was no port and poor roads, so it was easier to sail over 200 miles round. Canadian Emigrant, Sandwich, U.C., August 29, 1835 MARRIED On the 7th instant, at the Mansion Hotel, City of Buffalo, by the Rev, Mr. Tucker, Captain G. R. Williams, of the steamer Thames, to Miss Ann Lewis, both of Port Stanley, Kettle Creek, Upper Canada. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Sue My grandfather landed at S. John 18 March 1911 on the Empress of Britain. He entered the U.S. at Detroit. Looking at the map of Canada did he then travel by train to Montreal from St. John and then by another train to Detroit? It seems to me that St. John is a long way from Montreal. Naomi in Illinois Sue wrote: > > Montreal was also the intermediate stop for those destined to Canada or the > US mid-west who had arrived via Halifax, NS or St. John, NB and US ports > such as Portland or Boston. In Montreal they would switch trains to > continue their journey. Montreal was also the place where the US > immigration office collected the passenger lists of US destined passengers > who had arrived via Canadian sea ports or crossed into the US at border > ports. Those were then forwarded to the repository (now closed) at St. > Albans, Vermont, which is why the CAN-US arrival manifests and the CAN-US > border port manifests are collectively called "The St. Albans Lists." >

Sue My grandfather landed at S. John 18 March 1911 on the Empress of Britain. He entered the U.S. at Detroit. Looking at the map of Canada did he then travel by train to Montreal from St. John and then by another train to Detroit? It seems to me that St. John is a long way from Montreal. Naomi in Illinois Sue wrote: > > Montreal was also the intermediate stop for those destined to Canada or the > US mid-west who had arrived via Halifax, NS or St. John, NB and US ports > such as Portland or Boston. In Montreal they would switch trains to > continue their journey. Montreal was also the place where the US > immigration office collected the passenger lists of US destined passengers > who had arrived via Canadian sea ports or crossed into the US at border > ports. Those were then forwarded to the repository (now closed) at St. > Albans, Vermont, which is why the CAN-US arrival manifests and the CAN-US > border port manifests are collectively called "The St. Albans Lists." >

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At 08:15 PM 2006-09-23 +0000, nswanson@mchsi.com wrote: >Sue >My grandfather landed at S. John 18 March 1911 on the Empress of Britain. He >entered the U.S. at Detroit. Looking at the map of Canada did he then travel >by train to Montreal from St. John and then by another train to Detroit? It >seems to me that St. John is a long way from Montreal. > >Naomi in Illinois Hi Naomi, If he entered the US via Detroit, then yes . . he would have travelled by train from St. John through Montreal, probably changing trains for Detroit there. It was a big rail hub. It probably took him a couple of days total to Detroit. Depending on when his ship arrived and the train left, it was likely just an overnight to Montreal . . less than one day rail travel (588 miles . . 940 km by road) I think the immigrant trains (those which connected with the ships) probably travelled straight through, rather than the regular trains stopping at lots of stations. Maybe Harry can comment about that :-} T-4823 EMPRESS OF BRITAIN (CPR) Canadian Pacific Railway Co. Liverpool, England 1911-03-10 St. John, N.B. 1911-03-18 Captain James A. Murray I don't know if you have a copy of the Canadian arrival list too, but it should indicate which rail line he used and on the front summary page it would tell you when the train left. Sue --

Greetings List! Ive searched every ship on TSL, and Im beginning to think my relatives are aliens ! My gg-gparents (john/henriette DISCHER) came from Germany to America shortly before my g-g'father was born in April 1880 in Chicago. Im thinking they mustve come in from Canada, but have no idea where to look for them there... ANY ideas or suggestions would be a blessing! ~Rene! :)

Once again, I thank you. However, I've been in contact with the authorities in New Orleans, the national archives and also searched the Olive Tree lists you provided and can find nothing to give me the information I need. I guess it isn't available. But, again, thanks Bonnie

On 23 Sep 2006 at 1:39, wseone56@aol.com wrote: > > > Arriving in Canada or USA around 1750-1850 > You won't find such a thing for Canada. This is in the pre- archival period, before passenger lists to Canada had to be kept There are no comprehensive lists of immigrants arriving in Canada prior to 1865. Until that year, shipping companies were not required by the government to keep their passenger manifests. For immigrants from France, the NAC (National Archives of Canada) holds some records for the years 1732 and 1749 to 1760. Microfilm copies of these lists are available through the inter-institutional loan (ILL) arrangement from your local library. Details can be found in Immigration to Canada before 1865 article online at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml You can also search those ships lists which have been transcribed and are online at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml Ships to Canada 1400-1800 There is also a very overlooked but fantastic online database for searching in Colonial Records held at the NAC. These are not passenger lists, but a collection of miscellaneous records and if you are lucky, your ancestor may be found. To access this database, go to http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/spec_coll.shtml Click on Colonial Archives. Here's one example of what turned up by searching on the keywords SHIP and FRANCE: 1. 1720. Avril [Apr] 11: Liste des passagers embarqués pour la Louisiane sur le vaisseau LES DEUX FRERES commandé par Ferret. Concessions de Tourneville, Villemont, Chantreau; engagés pour la Compagnie, exilés (201 personnes). Cette liste de passagers a été publiée dans French Canadian and Acadian Geneological Review, Vol. 1, no. 3, (Fall 1968), pp. 197-210. [If you can't read French, this is a List of Passengers going to Louisiana on the Two Brothers, <more but I'm not going to translate it all> There are 201 names, and the list was published in the French Canadian and Acadian Geneological Review, Vol. 1, no. 3, (Fall 1968), pp. 197-210.] To get this list on microfilm you would order Microfilm of original, reel no. F- 804 OR the Microfilm of the transcript, reel no. C-10206 2. Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty. Name and type of ship: Diamant. Crew members: 450. Passengers: 2 women. Destination: From Brest and Rochefort bound for Canada. Captain: Le Chevalier Hoquart. Owner: King of France. Shipbuilding date: France. Cargo: Warlike stores and provisions. Other information: 3 May 1747 (old style). Microfilm of original, reel no. B-5720 Sending for the microfilm might reveal the names of those 2 female passengers. Good luck! Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi, I have searched everywhere for the port and arrival to America from Ireland for my great great great Grandfather Joseph Hughes and nothing. I have checked as much as I know and no passenger list ing for him. I know that I have very little information , so this could be the trouble, but here is what I have if anyone could help me. I am at a brick wall . Joseph Hughes came from Ireland . He must have come during the famine years. He was married to Mary A. and had 2 children both born in Penn. Alexander was born 1850 or 1851 and Henry born 1853 then by 1855 ; the family was in Ohio where Isabella was born 1855 . Then on to Iowa where the rest of the children were born . By 1870 They had a farm in Honey Creek, Iowa . By 1873 Mary A. (joseph's wife ) died. Joseph had other brothers --2 of them John and George ( but don't know if they immigrated to America before or after Joseph or with him. Another brother William was born in Ireland abt. 1831 or 1834 and came with widowed mother. Not sure of her name but in the 1860 census for Gertry , Mo. William is list as age 23 , his wife Martha age 27 , one child , and a 70 year old women by the name of Margarette born in Ireland. I would guess that this is Joseph's mother. Joseph died May 8th 1878 and buried in Victor , Iowa with Mary A, ( His wife.) Joseph's tombstone reads 49yrs. 18mo. 01 days. ON the 1870 census it says that he is 53. NOW WHICH ONE IS RIGHT -- THE TOMBSTONE OF CENSUS. If Tombstone age is right; then he was born abt. 1829. If there is anyone who can help me ; I would be eternally greatfull. My email address is lioneyes@morrisonews.net Thanks, Maxine

St. Paul's Island, located in the channel between Cape Breton and Newfoundland, was a frequent hazard to shipping. So many ships stranded there that the government of Nova Scotia established a manned lifesaving station there with supplies for shipwrecked mariners. In the spring of 1834, four ships were wrecked there at the same time. Then..... Montreal Gazette, August 30, 1834 LIVERPOOL, July 24. The Spring Hill, [captain] Auld, from Quebec, off St. Paul's picked up Joseph Stirling, one of the two men stationed on the island to render assistance to ships wrecked in the neighbour- hood, and to dispense provisions to their crews. He had been blown off in a gale of wind the day before in a small skiff, without any provisions or water and was in great danger of perishing in the gale. So, assuming this incident took place around the end of June, it would have been nearly two months before news reached his family that he was safe. Similar unexpected trips sometimes happened to pilots if the weather conditions prevented them from being picked up from outbound ships. However sometimes the involuntary traveller could be transferred to a westbound ship, avoiding the transatlantic round trip. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

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On 21 Sep 2006 at 9:41, Bonnie Hill wrote: > Hello > Thanks for your suggestions, however, there are no records > left for any passenger ships arriving in New Orleans from 1 > July 1852 through the end of the year. That's why I would > like to know what port he departed from and the name of the > ship. then I could see if he traveled with others of his > collateral family. My point was that there are 2 sets of lists -- the 'regular' lists and indexes as well as the Quarterly Abstracts. I wondered if you had checked for both. Did both burn in this fire you speak of? For a complete list of NARA and FHC microfilm numbers for LA, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_louisiana.shtml The only way to get a departure port name is in the ships passenger list deposited at the arrival port Did you try the JJ Cooke shipping records for this port and year? These lists are Passenger Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents. Sailings from Londonderry to Philadelphia, Quebec, St. John, New Brunswick, and New Orleans Louisiana 1847-71 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Does anyone on the list know if sometimes only one ticket was purchased and others sailed on the same ship. Also could a ship leaving from Belfast pick up passengers in Dublin or the same in reverse. I have a ship The Hamilton arriving in Philadelphia June 18, 1827 with a Hugh Burns as a listed passenger. I think a Dennis Redmond may have been with him but he is not listed. The passenger list says Hugh sailed from Belfast but I know Dennis sailed from Dublin. The first page of the passenger list shows both Belfast and Dublin but it looks as if Dublin may have been crossed out. I would appreciated any info anyone might have on this. Thanks Nancy Hackney

I don't know if this is something that is appropriate for this forum or not. If not I sincerely apologize for it. I am looking for any immigration or ship info for a Robert(b-1839) or Thomas(b-1/14/1842) Gordon. They are brothers who may or may not have gone to Mass. from Nova Scotia at the same time (they were born in the New Lairg area of Pictou County, Nova Scotia). My great grandfather Robert's first child was born in Mass before 1871, and my great uncle Thomas was married in Mass in 1872. We have no info on there departure from Canada or there arrival in the US. Gary Gordon m-brat@comcast.net

Hi Liz, Don't overlook using an appropriate Subject line. It is your head-line to attract the most attention from other listers with resources. At 04:36 PM 2006-09-21 -0600, Liz Fennig wrote: >Looking for my great grandfather immigrated to Canada in 1907 from >Cunevada,Romania >These are the list of people on the same ship...all my ancesters >Perhaps in the passenger list RG76, not sure what port they came in on. RG76 is the name of the Record Group for most Canadian Immigration records. >1. Joseph Klatt & wife Dorathea > Children: Joseph Klatt > Katharina Klatt > Anna Klatt > Yustina Klatt > >2. Carl Fehrman & wife Dorathea > >3. Christian Reister & wife Maria > & Child: Christian Reister born 1906 There were thousands of emigrants sailing from mostly Antwerp, from places such as Roumania. As I've been indexing the ship arrivals, I often note largish groups from those places . . for examples Reel Number Ship Name Shipping Line Special Group(s) Departure Information Arrival Information Remarks T-490 SARDINIAN (A) Allan Line Steamship Co. (O): Italian; French; Roumanian; Belgian London, England 1907-06-01 / Le Havre, France 1907-06-02 Quebec, Que. 1907-06-15 / Montreal, Que. Captain Thomas Moar; quarantine: list of passengers to Grosse Isle attached T-490 MONTREAL Main List (CPR) Canadian Pacific Railway Co. (O): German; Galician; Bukovinian; Russian; Roumanian; Italian Antwerp, Belgium 1907-06-05 Quebec, Que. 1907-06-16 / Montreal, Que. Captain R.H. McNeill; death in quarantine: Galcians, Michael Chaszcrowy (?) 10 mo. 1907-07-13 (parents, Antoni 33; Anna 24 & 2 siblings to Sask) & Pauline Alexandawcy (?) 60, 1907-06-13; quarantine list attached ; birth at sea: Anna Montreal Kosty--ck, 1 week old (mother ? Josefa Petrasy 24 ? to Winnipeg); death at sea: Russian, Maria Gawranska 4 mo. 1907-06-14 (mother Franziska 21, to St.Louis) The shipping line they most often used was the CPR from Antwerp, although there were some Allan Line ships from Le Havre. I have "Roumanian" noted for 30 ships in 1907, but I wouldn't want to limit your search to 30 ships as I might have overlooked some groups. The ship names for those I've noted are . . LAKE MICHIGAN x 4; MONTEZUMA x 5; MONTREAL x 4; MONTROSE x 3; MOUNT ROYAL x 3; MOUNT TEMPLE x 5; OTTAWA x 1 (Dominion Line, from Liverpool); PARISIAN x 2; SARDINIAN x 2; VIRGINIAN x 1 (from Liverpool). Although most arrived via the port of Quebec from early May to mid November, there were several St. John, NB arrivals during the *winter* months. You will find the 1907 Quebec arrivals on microfilms T-489 to T-493 and the St. John arrivals on T-508 The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL free of charge, from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LAC will allow your Library to borrow up to six microfilms on your behalf, per request. The LDS now have copies of the post-1900 Canadian arrivals, so check here for links and details http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#lds I see you have a Canadian email address. Here find a list of institutions in Canada who also have copies of this microfilm. You may have one close by. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-903-e.html Good Luck, Sue --

At 03:12 AM 2006-09-22 -0400, Kinfind@aol.com wrote: >Hallo Listers; > >Was Montreal a port of arrival for immigrants in 1911? > >Are ship lists - ship manifests available for those arrivals? > >Thanks in advance, > >Ernie Misch Hello Ernie, Yes and no. In 1911, most ships stopped first at the port of Quebec, where all third class passengers disembarked and continued their journey by train. Of the ships which then continued to Montreal, to off-load cargo and/or load cargo for the eastbound voyage, first and second class passengers were sometimes given the option to remain on board to Montreal. Smaller ships, such as those of the Donaldson Line, carried cargo and very few passengers, so most of those would remain on board too. Montreal was also the intermediate stop for those destined to Canada or the US mid-west who had arrived via Halifax, NS or St. John, NB and US ports such as Portland or Boston. In Montreal they would switch trains to continue their journey. Montreal was also the place where the US immigration office collected the passenger lists of US destined passengers who had arrived via Canadian sea ports or crossed into the US at border ports. Those were then forwarded to the repository (now closed) at St. Albans, Vermont, which is why the CAN-US arrival manifests and the CAN-US border port manifests are collectively called "The St. Albans Lists." Yes, all those manifests are available. The Canadian lists of those arrivals are microfilmed, but not yet indexed or scanned. http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#1919 http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#sources The US records for those same arrivals (St. Albans Lists) are also microfilmed, are indexed, but not yet scanned. http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans Sue --

James & Theresa Mangan Mahon from Cork, were in OH by 1860 with sons Michael (1853) & Edward (1855) as daug. Mary was born there. They were on the 1860 census in MI. I do not know the departure port, arrival port,, date, or ship they came on. I have checked checked many ports & ships lists with no luck. Can anyone help me locate this info? Bettye