----- Original Message ----- From: "The Crocker Family" <gcrocker@bigpond.net.au> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: [TSL] abberton > Has anyone been able to access passenger lists for a > ship called the > Abberton which left Port of Gravesend, England in 1839. > I am looking for > George Eld Darby and his wife Sarah who died after > childbirth during the > voyage Hi Kerry Took me a while to sort this out . Would have helped had you mentioned its port of arrival . Came into port of Sydney 3 times 1839 -41 and also to Port Phillip 1844 NSW State Records either at The Rocks, Sydney or out at Kingswood would be only place to have copy of any full passenger lists It didnt carry Bounty passengers so not in the Bounty indexes CD The National Library of Australia has digitised a lot of old newspapers from the 1840s including the Commercial Journal & Advertiser fr 1835 http://www.nla.gov.au/ferguson/14401894/18390821/00050399/1-2.pdf Should be the page from the 21 Aug 1839 , day after the Abberton arrived HTH Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW
In a message dated 9/25/2006 9:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, brycerumbles@yahoo.com writes: To my knowledge, they are very much INcomplete -- no where near where ellisisland.org was when they went public. I have yet to find ANYONE I've searched for there! But it can only improve, right? I have steadily been finding mine, bit at a time. Oddly the ones I expected to find first were last <G> and ones I never thought to find stood up and shouted. I found a brother for my Oldest Cogan we never knew about. Give it time. eliz
Greetings, How complete are the Castle Gardens Lists? I am looking for Wolfgang Raith who according to his Declaration of Intent arrived in New York in October of 1888. I know that he came from Ried am Haidstein, Koetzting in East Bavaria. No success as of today. 1) I know the name could be misread by the scribe. 2) I know that the arrival year was one of the most misremembered dates on census information although he filed Declaration of 1892 which is only four years out. Seems to me to file the Declaration in a court he would have had to have good information. 3) Is it possible that his ship is not yet in the system? Clifford Bischoff
At 10:31 AM 2006-09-25 -0400, Miriam wrote: >I am looking for Robert Russell and his 2 or 3 brothers who may have been >among the Scottish stone-masons who were brought to Halifax, Nova Scotia >to work on the Shubinacadie Canal system abt. 1830/31. Miriam, You can check out all the CORSAIR arrivals from Greenock &c. to Nova Scotia here . . Ships to and from Nova Scotia 1815-1838 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/novascotia.htm Note too the 1827 arrival of the Government brig FORTE, from Newfoundland, "forty masons (with their familes) for the [Shubenacadie] Canal." In "Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867" vol. I by Leonard H. Smith and Norma H. Smith published by Genealogical Publishing Co. 1992. . . I found these Russells Russell, Robert b. ca. 1790 ; to Pictou county 1831 (383 : 122). Russell, Elizabeth wife of Robert ; daughter of Alex Craig ; b. Edinburgh, Scotland ; to Pictou county ca. 1831 (383 : 121) Russell, James son of Robert / Elizabeth (Craig) ; b. Scotland ca. 1814 ; to N.S. ca. 1831 (383 : 122) Russell, John son of James / Margaret (Douglas) ; from Scotland on CORSAIR ca. 1827 (383 : 121) Source: (383) "Queries," Nova Scotia Genealogist, 6 : 2 (Summer 1988) : pp 111-124 ps. I live on the Shubenacadie Canal, and this is what it looked like 11 months ago http://flickr.com/photos/swigsplace/54839304/in/set-1188428/ Sue --
Hi Has anyone been able to access passenger lists for a ship called the Abberton which left Port of Gravesend, England in 1839. I am looking for George Eld Darby and his wife Sarah who died after childbirth during the voyage Thanks Kerry
Do you have a cargo list of the Waratah (particularly any gold on board), before she disappeared leaving Sydney and Durban? Also, do you have a copy of the blueprint drawings of the construction of the ship? Much appreciated if you could find this information for me. Thank you, Don Jessen South Africa
Oral history states my grandmother went back to Ireland leaving Boston 1918-1921 with three small children. I can not find her on any Boston Manifest returning during that time period. I have looked under different spelling of her name and so forth. Is there a way she could have returned with three children and not been recorded?? thanks for any help meg
To my knowledge, they are very much INcomplete -- no where near where ellisisland.org was when they went public. I have yet to find ANYONE I've searched for there! But it can only improve, right? Bishlark@aol.com wrote: Greetings, How complete are the Castle Gardens Lists? I am looking for Wolfgang Raith who according to his Declaration of Intent arrived in New York in October of 1888. I know that he came from Ried am Haidstein, Koetzting in East Bavaria. No success as of today. 1) I know the name could be misread by the scribe. 2) I know that the arrival year was one of the most misremembered dates on census information although he filed Declaration of 1892 which is only four years out. Seems to me to file the Declaration in a court he would have had to have good information. 3) Is it possible that his ship is not yet in the system? Clifford Bischoff Bryce King of Info Dude www.myspace.com/brumbar www.myspace.com/georgetc2006 --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Hi Guys This is our first time on this list so please bear with me Thomas Edmund Bevan bn. 1857 Somerset England, arrived in India before 1888, married Amy Forbes Oct.1888 Bengal Presidency children born Amy Grace Sept 1889 Calcutta & Jessie Dorothy Feb.1891 also in Calcutta, Had a music shop in Calcutta If there is anyone who can tell me where to find the details and year of his departure from the UK, and of his families departure from India, He was back in the UK in 1923 we would be very grateful Thankyou Dick
Looking for a photo of the ship Hammonia time period is 1883. Thank You, Colleen --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
On 25 Sep 2006 at 11:43, Mike "Dino" Peterson wrote: > How would I go about finding if a passenger - > Reguline J. Bjorngaard, age 19.5 > sailed from England to New York on White Star Line Ship > GERMANIC or White Start Line Ship ADRIATIC in May of 1879? You would use the free access limited time offer on Olive Tree Genealogy for New York Passenger Lists 1851-1891 & 1935-1938 including Castle Garden passenger lists For a limited time (until Oct. 4, 2006) but only through Olive Tree Genealogy, you can search these records as often as you like -- with no obligation to purchase anything - and no credit card is required. All you need to do is use the special links provided on the URL below to register as a guest on Ancestry.com. Registration is simply your name and email http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml Enjoy Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
From the Times of Monday January 7, 1839: For the Cape of Good Hope, the fast-sailing ship ABBERTON, Henry Shuttleworth, Commander, (late of the H.C.S.); lying in the London Docks. This vessel will have quick despatch. For freight or passage (to the Cape only) apply to Thomson and Edwrds, 12, King's Arms-yard. Coleman-street. Then on Monday June 10, 1839 showing the Captain moved to a different ship: For Calcutta direct, under engagement with the Hon. East India Commany, and will positively sail from Gravesend on the 5th of July, the fine frigate-built ship London, burden 750 tons, Henry Shuttleworth, H.C.S., Commander, (late of the Abberton); lying in the East India Docks. Has excellent accommodation for passengers and will carry an experienced surgeon. For freight or passage apply to Messrs. Richards, Little, and Co., 15, Bishopsgate-street within; or to John Pirie and Co., 3 Freeman's-court, Cornhill. On Friday April 12, 1938: Cleared Outwards With Cargo The Abberton, for Sydney Then on Monday June 24, 1839 this: Died On the 17th ult., on board of the ship Abberton, bound to Sydney, Sarah C. Darby, the beloved wife of Mr. G.E. Darby, late of the 17th Regiment, and only child of Mr. Francis Wilson, of Knightrider-street, Doctors' Commons, deeply lamented. Regards.. Marj At 06:01 AM 9/25/2006, The Crocker Family wrote: >Hi > > > >Has anyone been able to access passenger lists for a ship called the >Abberton which left Port of Gravesend, England in 1839. I am looking for >George Eld Darby and his wife Sarah who died after childbirth during the >voyage > > > >Thanks > > > >Kerry > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
How would I go about finding if a passenger - Reguline J. Bjorngaard, age 19.5 sailed from England to New York on White Star Line Ship GERMANIC or White Start Line Ship ADRIATIC in May of 1879? Any help would be appreciated. Sincerely, Mike Peterson
I am looking for Robert Russell and his 2 or 3 brothers who may have been among the Scottish stone-masons who were brought to Halifax, Nova Scotia to work on the Shubinacadie Canal system abt. 1830/31.
I recently posted that I couldn't find any steamboat schedules for Lake Erie for 1834. On further research I found the following timetable for service between Goderich, Sandwich and Buffalo for 1836. The service may have been the same in 1834; however I always warn researchers that transport was changing very quickly and the standard route for one year may be quite obsolete the next. This was primarily a service between Goderich and Sandwich, with occasional continuations to Buffalo. There were other steamers between Buffalo and Detroit/Sandwich. Canadian Emigrant, Sandwich [Windsor] U.C. August 2, 1836 THE CANADA COMPANY'S Steamboat Menissitunk, commanded by Captain Wright, R.N., will sail during the present season between Goderich, Sandwich, and Buffalo, on the following dates, touching at Port Stanley on each route through Lake Erie. Goderich to Sandwich at 1 A.M. June 6, 15, 18, 22, 25, 29 July 5, 9, 13, 16, 20, 27, 30 Aug. 3, 6, 10, 17, 20, 24, 27, 31 Sept, 7, 10, 14, 17, 21, 25 Goderich to Buffalo at 1 P.M. June 6, 29 July 30 August 10, 41 [31?] Sept. 21 [and similar dates for Buffalo - Sandwich - Goderich] For Passage and Freight apply to the Captain on board Canada Company's Office Toronto 1st June 1836 This is the first reference I have seen to the Canada Company operating a steamboat. The name Menissitunk, was quite clear in the newspaper but Google doesn't know the name. I found a reference to a steamer called Minnitunk, which I think is the same one, and another reference to the Minnesetung, also the same one! Minnesetung, 250 tons, built Goderich 1834, sunk at Malden 1839, raised and renamed Goderich. History of the Great Lakes. Volume I : List of Lake Vessels http://www.halinet.on.ca/GreatLakes/Documents/HGL/default.asp The name was apparently Indian, meaning "water with islands in it". -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------
Bonsoir Forgiveness for my English. I am new here. I try to recall the history of my family from Bukovina where I have my roots too. Many people of my village and my family emigrated in America at the beginning of 1900. For some of them I found the passengers list but for my grand uncles and aunts left towards Canada and US I do not find anything. There is nothing on Ellis Island archive. Does somebody know how much cost the trip from Trieste to New Orleans in 1907? (SS Gerty 21 sept. - Oct 26) or from Hamburg, Bremen or Rotterdam to Halifax, Baltimore or Detroit in 1911-1912? Unfortunately I don't have the name of the boat nor the name of the port but I think that more part of my family members left by Hamburg or Rotterdam. Village of origin is Ipotestie, Austria. Bukovina was under the Austrian occupation between 1775-1918. Today the north Bukovina is in Ukraina and that of the south in Romania. I'm looking info about: IATCU George (1891-1978) (american name Iatzko), Daniil (1888 -?) and Victoria (1894-1942). Marfta Hladiuc (1890 - 1980?). Left between 1911 and July 1912. George married Marfta Hladiuc on Jul 2, 1912 in Montreal. Horbaniuc Leon which was the husband of Victoria Iatcu. I also looking for Leon Krassi (1893-1973) left at the same time because I find it on a photograph with the marriage of George Iatcu in Montreal in 1912. He left second once in May 1920 (Hamburg- Detroit on the St.Louis boat). Leon's daughter give me photographs of which one called "meet me" It acts of a little boy of 3-4 years. There isn't the name of the boy but it is possible that it is Leon's child have during its first stay in Canada. Leon's daughter (63 years old today) would like to know if it a can be a brother. Leon said to his family from Bukovina that it was its godson. There is a web site where I'll be able to put this photograph? can be that someone over the Atlantic has a similar photograph in his files. (bottle in the sea.) >From my father's part family there're 3 grand uncles and a grand aunt left between 1912-1914. HRENIUC Lazar (1894-1985) Hreniuc Georgi (1890-1981) Hreniuc Demitrie (1885 -?) he went in 1912 on the boat SS Zeeland (25 March-12 April) Rotterdam - Portland. But in Jan 1914 I found his marriage in Ipotesti, Bukovina, Austria. It would have set out again in America two weeks after its marriage. We never have news from him. Hreniuc Victoria (1888 -?) I will be very glad to have some infos. The port of departure, date of arrival in America. With my thanks Maritza, Paris, France marita.hreniuc@orange.fr
----- Original Message ----- From: "cjmartin" <cjmartin@southcom.com.au> To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: [TSL] Steamship Offenbach Hi Jean > Does anyone have access to the passenger lists for the > steamship Offenbach > 1906 coming into Fremantle Western Australia possibly > from South Africa? I > believe it came in twice that year. > > I am Looking for Ernst Wilhelm Johann Kruger Check out http://naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html Appears to be a naturalisation ref to this bloke and he also might have been interned during WW1 ? If you type in 'Offenbach' to this same data base a number of refs come up including some inward passenger lists HTH Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW
Hello, Does anyone have access to the passenger lists for the steamship Offenbach 1906 coming into Fremantle Western Australia possibly from South Africa? I believe it came in twice that year. I am Looking for Ernst Wilhelm Johann Kruger Thanks June Martin Tasmania
Thank you, Sue for the information about the trains from St. John. I do have a copy of the passenger manifest including the summary page. It does list several trains and departure times but I am not sure which train my grandfather took. Again tanks for your info. Naomi in Illinoi > If he entered the US via Detroit, then yes . . he would have travelled by > train from St. John through Montreal, probably changing trains for Detroit > there. It was a big rail hub. It probably took him a couple of days total > to Detroit. Depending on when his ship arrived and the train left, it was > likely just an overnight to Montreal . . less than one day rail travel (588 > miles . . 940 km by road) I think the immigrant trains (those which > connected with the ships) probably travelled straight through, rather than > the regular trains stopping at lots of stations. Maybe Harry can comment > about that :-} > > T-4823 EMPRESS OF BRITAIN (CPR) Canadian Pacific Railway Co. > Liverpool, England 1911-03-10 St. John, N.B. 1911-03-18 Captain > James A. Murray > > I don't know if you have a copy of the Canadian arrival list too, but it > should indicate which rail line he used and on the front summary page it > would tell you when the train left. > > Sue > --
Just a little question for anyone that checks passenger lists. My grandfather disappeared from Ireland in the mid 1930s. If anyone ever comes across the name ISAAC SYLVESTER O'DONNELL, could they let me know. He was born in County Galway in 1904 at a place called BRIERFIELD, BALLYGLUNIN. Its an unusal name that someone may notice. No one knows where he went but there is a possibility of Trinidad(just a rumour though). Cheers, Mark O'Donnell