At 10:12 AM 2006-09-27 -0500, Pat wrote: >I am searching for my gggrandfather, Alexander Morton, born 1802 in >Scotland. He came to Canada between 1827-1829. He was married in Nov >1829, in Chatham, Ontario, Canada. Does anyone know where I could find >out which ship he came on during this timeline? > >Pat from Kansas Hello Pat, There was no formal archiving of passenger lists for Canada before 1865. However, we have been very fortunate to find the St. Lawrence Steamboat records........ St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records Pt. 1 - 1819-1825: St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records Pt. 2 - 1826-1836: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_36stlawrence.htm .....never before published passenger lists for the Steamboats which carried arriving immigrants from Quebec, to Montreal, where they continued to their destinations in the United States and Canada. There was more that one steamboat company operating on the river during most of those years, but we only have surviving records for that one company. I have completed the transcription 1819-1825 and I'm currently working on 1826. In 1827 there will be transcriptions of only two steamboats, the JOHN MOLSON and the CHAMBLY. In 1828 there are surviving records for five steamboats, NEW SWIFTSURE, CHAMBLY, WATERLOO, JOHN MOLSON and ST. LAWRENCE. The only thing I can advise is to watch that URL above for future transcriptions. As I transcribe the steamboats, I also extract the shipping information (and some news items) from the newspapers for each year. If / when you locate a possible or probable individual on a steamboat, then study the sailing ship arrivals at Quebec for a two-three day period prior to the date on the steamboat, you can note the ships carrying settlers from the most likely departure port for your immigrant. This is the closest thing you will ever find to confirm your ancestor's emigration ship. The newspaper links are included on the index page(s) above, as well as on each steamboat list. You can go directly to the those by clicking here . . http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm#canada . . . I have only completed through to 1826, so far. btw. a search of the "Search N. America Lists" search box near the top of this page .. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/index.htm .. returns 16 pages where Morton is transcribed. No Alexander Morton singled out yet. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Liz The NY Times reports the arrival in the Nov. 27, 1883 paper Steam-ship Dorset, (Br.,) Stamper, Swansea Nov. 12. with mdse and passengers to W.D. Morgan. No mention of any bad weather. The London Times of Nov 13, 1883, page 6 reports the sailing... Swansea, Nov. 12.--The Great Western Line steamers Dorset and Cornwall sailed hence to-day, the former for New York, and the latter for Baltimore. Judging from this, I would not say the ship was two weeks late. The Dorset sailed to Montreal on Sept 13 and arrived on Sept 24. She arrived back in Swansea on Oct 21. Regards.. Marj At 02:25 PM 9/28/2006, Liz Smith wrote: >Hi List, >I have two relatives on this ship with a story written >by one of them about the arrival of the ship being two >weeks late due to a severe storm. The arrival date in >New York was 27 Nov 1883. I was hoping some one might >know of a written newspaper article telling about this >event as it had been given up for lost. The ships >port of departure was Swansea. Thank you. > >Liz Smith > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tanya Sue is correct. I did some more looking and found this. I should have known that the online Times does not always find things (even when they are there). This did not come up when I searched on the name of the ship so I went looking at ads: Times, Friday, April 2, 1852, page 1 At Liverpool.--For Portland Bay, Australia, under contract to H.M. Emigration Commissioners, to be despatched from Birkenhead on the 14th April, the splendid ship FLORA MACDONALD, A1 at Lloyd's, 674 tons register, copper-fastened and newly coppered, sails remarkably fast, and has splendid accommodations for cabin passengers. For freight and passage apply to James Baines, Esq., 6, Cook-street, Liverpool; or to Carter and Bonus, 11, Leadenhall-street. Regards.. Marj At 03:18 PM 9/27/2006, Sue Swiggum wrote: >At 11:41 AM 2006-09-27 +1000, Tanya Orchard wrote: > >Seeking information on William and Catherine Orchard (nee Robertson) who > >journeyed from Liverpool, Endgland to Portland, Victoria, Australia on the > >Flora McDonald in 1852 > >Tanya > >Tanya, > >I can't find the Captain name, but I'm sure this is a different ship than >the one Marj found. > >I found the family on the Index to Registers of Assisted British Immigrants >1839-1871 transcribed as Orchards rather than >Orchard. http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24 > >ORCHARDS WILLIAM 26 AUG 1852 FLORA MCDONALD 8 145 >ORCHARDS CATHERINE 23 AUG 1852 FLORA MCDONALD 8 145 >ORCHARDS ---- INFANT WITH I AUG 1852 FLORA MCDONALD 8 145 > > The Flora McDonald sailed on the 21st Apr 1852 from Liverpool, arrived >18th Aug 1852 at Portland. > >Sue >-- >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I have two relatives on this ship with a story written by one of them about the arrival of the ship being two weeks late due to a severe storm. The arrival date in New York was 27 Nov 1883. I was hoping some one might know of a written newspaper article telling about this event as it had been given up for lost. The ships port of departure was Swansea. Thank you. Liz Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Shawna There are several ships by the name of Amazon. I see one sailing to Lisbon, one to NY, as well as some Schooners by that name going into NY. I found the Amazon in the London Times of Jun 5, 1863 in the Ship News Gravesend June 4 Sailed--the Amazon for New York No mention of the Captain. But.. I did find another item in the Times for May 12, 1863 Plymouth, Monday--The American ship Amazon, Captain Hovey, from New York, on the 25th of April, with a full general cargo, for London, landed nine passengers here this evening. So, this may be your ship on the way to London. Regards.. Marj At 08:35 PM 9/27/2006, Peter Shearer wrote: >The Captain Who sailed the ship "Amazon" arriving at The Port of New >York from London on 20 July 1863, his name is very hard to read on the >manifest but it looks like Heny R. ...the last name is very difficult >Norcing, or Morrey, Noucy. > >Does that help at all to learn more about this ship? > >Thank you, >Shawna Shearer >psrsshearer@cableone.net >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Frances, This was the PHILADELPHIA, built 1888 as the CITY OF PARIS. Details at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsP-Q.html Photo at http://www.norwayheritage.com/gallery/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=30&text=&imageid=239&box=&shownew= Details of the FRANCE at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsF.html Photos at http://www.greatoceanliners.net/index2.html regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jeremiahsprayers@aol.com> To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:36 AM Subject: [TSL] LOOKING FOR THE USS PHILADELPHIA > Looking for information about the PHILADELPHIA voyage of July 5, 1920 > port of departure Cherbourg, France, Ship Philadelphia; October 23, > 1920 port of departure Marseilles, France Ship the France; December > 27, 1920; Port of departure Piraeus, Ship Piraeus > > My mothers birthday is in November and this would be a wonderful gift. > If you dont have the information can you direct me to any website > that could. Ancestry doesn't have it and there is a big charge for > ellisisland records > > Thank you so much > > Frances Goetzinger > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Can any lister give us an Idea of the names of any ships that left the uk and docked at Columbo on the way to India, our Grand Aunt Amy Bevan celebrated her 21st birthday at Columbo en route Thanks Dick

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanya Orchard" <orchardt@bigpond.net.au> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Flora McDonald 1852 > Seeking information on William and Catherine Orchard > (nee Robertson) who journeyed from Liverpool, Endgland > to Portland, Victoria, Australia on the Flora McDonald > in 1852 Hi Tanya Be worth checking the 3 volumes of ' The Log of Logs' books for any additional info on all 3 ships . These give info on surviving ships logs etc & where to find Can be found in many libraries . You dont give any clue to your location so cant help with name of a possible library Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

Shawna Shearer (psrsshearer@cableone.net) posted: >> The Captain Who sailed the ship "Amazon" arriving at The Port of New York from London on 20 July 1863, his name is very hard to read on the manifest but it looks like Heny R. ...the last name is very difficult Norcing, or Morrey, Noucy. Does that help at all to learn more about this ship? >> This Amazon would be the London packet, Captain H. R. Hovey, 1751 tons, built 1854 by J. A Westervelt at New York, owned by E. E. Morgan of New York. Source: American Lloyd's Register, Mystic Seaport website Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Canada - af877@freenet.carleton.ca

Looking for information about the PHILADELPHIA voyage of July 5, 1920 port of departure Cherbourg, France, Ship Philadelphia; October 23, 1920 port of departure Marseilles, France Ship the France; December 27, 1920; Port of departure Piraeus, Ship Piraeus My mothers birthday is in November and this would be a wonderful gift. If you dont have the information can you direct me to any website that could. Ancestry doesn't have it and there is a big charge for ellisisland records Thank you so much Frances Goetzinger

The Captain Who sailed the ship "Amazon" arriving at The Port of New York from London on 20 July 1863, his name is very hard to read on the manifest but it looks like Heny R. ...the last name is very difficult Norcing, or Morrey, Noucy. Does that help at all to learn more about this ship? Thank you, Shawna Shearer psrsshearer@cableone.net

Hello fellow listers!! I'm wondering if someone has access to the passenger list of the ship Thomas P. Cope. I'm looking for a listing for a William H. Smith, age 6, who sailed on this ship on or about April 15, 1842 from Liverpool, England arriving in Philadelphia, PA. It would be a huge help to know who else in his family sailed with him and possibly where the family indicated they were going in PA upon arrival. Thanks for any help on this William Smith!! Claudia Pell-Salvatore

At 11:41 AM 2006-09-27 +1000, Tanya Orchard wrote: >Seeking information on William and Catherine Orchard (nee Robertson) who >journeyed from Liverpool, Endgland to Portland, Victoria, Australia on the >Flora McDonald in 1852 >Tanya Tanya, I can't find the Captain name, but I'm sure this is a different ship than the one Marj found. I found the family on the Index to Registers of Assisted British Immigrants 1839-1871 transcribed as Orchards rather than Orchard. http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24 ORCHARDS WILLIAM 26 AUG 1852 FLORA MCDONALD 8 145 ORCHARDS CATHERINE 23 AUG 1852 FLORA MCDONALD 8 145 ORCHARDS ---- INFANT WITH I AUG 1852 FLORA MCDONALD 8 145 The Flora McDonald sailed on the 21st Apr 1852 from Liverpool, arrived 18th Aug 1852 at Portland. Sue --

At 07:58 PM 2006-09-26 -0700, virginia miller wrote: >John Graham was born in Comrie,Perthshire, Scotland in 1846. He is >supposed to have come to Canada in 1872 possibly accompanied by his wife >and mother, both called Margaret Graham. Would there be passenger lists >for this period? >Regards, >Virginia Hi Virginia, I looked at the 1901 census and although it says both John and Margaret were born in Scotland, it only indicates an emigration year for John . . . 1872 . . . Isabella was born in Canada in 1875 I then checked the 1911 census and just John and Margaret in the household, however this time they both show 1872 as their emigration year, so, it looks like you have a pretty good chance that this was the correct year. If you haven't seen the 1911 yet, I'll paste the source info here Name: John Graham Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 65 Birth Date: January 1846 BirthPlace: Scotland Family Number: 93 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouses's Name: Margaret Immigration Year: 1872 Tribal: Scotch Province: Ontario District: Wentworth District Number: 135 Sub-District: Saltfleet Township, Tapleytown Village Sub-District Number: 46 Place of Habitation: Saltfleet Census Year: 1911 Page: 8 Household Members: Name Age John Graham 65 Margaret Graham 63 There are only 30 ships Glasgow - Quebec to check for 1872 . . . many more from Liverpool, but I think they probably would have sailed from Glasgow From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm ....eg. of the first 3 Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4527 ST. PATRICK Glasgow, Scotland 1872-04-16 / Dublin (Kingstown), Ireland 1872-04-18 Quebec, Que. 1872-05-08 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 2; Captain John G. Stephen C-4527 ST. ANDREW Glasgow, Scotland 1872-04-25 / Londonderry, Ireland 1872-04-26 Quebec, Que. 1872-05-11 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (U): Group of Scottish Masons & Tradesmen including 11 year old boy, James Brown List Number: 5; Captain Hugh Wylie C-4527 NORTH AMERICAN Liverpool, England 1872-04-16 / Glasgow, Scotland 1872-04-17 Quebec, Que. 1872-05-12 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 6 ; Captain James Miller; 26 day passage - encountered sheet ice off Newfoundland - had to put into Halifax for coal and provisions Ship names to check for (some made more than one trip, even as many as 4 or 5) all Allan Line, except the Vicksburg : CORINTHIAN ; GERMANY x 1 ; MANITOBAN ; NORTH AMERICAN x 1; ST. ANDREW ; ST. DAVID ; ST. PATRICK ; SWEDEN ; VICKSBURG (Dominion Line) All lists are on microfilm numbers C-4527 and C-4528 (C-4528 only begins with late October arrivals) The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889447 ~ 1872 ~ port of Quebec Virginia I see you have a Canadian email address. Here find a list of institutions in Canada who also have copies of this microfilm. You may have one close by http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-903-e.html Good Luck Sue --

This item from the London Times of July 20, 1853 Joseph Mabru.--Any person giving Information relative to that gentleman, who sailed in the Flora Macdonald, in 1843, from Rangoon (Pegu) to Calcutta, will be handsomely Rewarded. Address, post-paid, to Mr. de Fontaine-moreau, Patent-office for Invention, 4, South-street, Finsbury. Regards.. Marj

Tanya Not sure if there were two ships by that name but here is an ad from the London Times of Jan14, 1852 Californian Regular Line of Packets, to follow the Prince Charlie.--Notice to Shippers and Passengers.--The clipper barque FLORA MACDONALD, A1, D. PROUD, Commander, lying in the London Docks, has room for a limited quantity of measurement goods. For freight or passage (having superior accommodations) apply to J.H. Thompson and Co., 52, Cornhill. The above will be followed by a first-class ship of 600 tons. Times, Jan 19, 1852: California Regular Line of Packet Ship,--Notice to Shippers.--The FLORA MACDONALD, Captain D. Proud, lying in the London Docks, will receive light goods till Thursday next, 22d inst. For freight or passage apply to J.H. Thompson and Co., 52 Cornhill. The above will be followed by the new clipper ship Claro. London Times, Jan 31, 1852 Sailed.--The Pursuit, for Havre--the Flora Macdonald, for San Francisco--the City of Paris, for Boulogne--the William Jolliffe, for Havre. London Times, May 4, 1852 Electric Telegraphic Despatch Liverpool, Tuesday, 10.45 A.M. Arrived.--Flora Macdonald, from Baltimore. Regards.. Marj At 09:41 PM 9/26/2006, Tanya Orchard wrote: >Seeking information on William and Catherine Orchard (nee Robertson) who >journeyed from Liverpool, Endgland to Portland, Victoria, Australia on the >Flora McDonald in 1852 >Tanya >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 07:37 AM 2006-09-27 -0700, Mary wrote: >My in-laws sailed on the Carthaginian, departing Glasgow on 2 Nov 1915, >according to the Inspection Cards (Immigrants and Steerage Passengers). I >am not certain of their port of arrival. I cannot find a passenger list >for this sailing. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? > > Thanks > > Mary McAdam > USA Hello Mary, They arrived via the port of Quebec. Reel Number Ship Name Shipping Line Departure Information Arrival Information T-4815 CARTHAGINIAN Main List (A) Allan Line Steamship Co., Glasgow Glasgow, Scotland 1915-11-02 Quebec, Que. 1915-11-14 / Montreal, Que. The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL free of charge, from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LAC will allow your Library to borrow up to six microfilms on your behalf, per request. The LDS now have copies of the post-1900 Canadian arrivals, so check here for links and details http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#lds If your in-laws were just in transit through Canada destined to the US, then you should also check out the CAN-US border records (St. Albans lists) as those contain a lot more info than Canadian lists for US destined passengers. http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans Good Luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Seeking information on the Grosser family- travelled from Germany to South Australia in 1841 Tanya

Seeking info on the Lampe family believed to have travelled from Bremen, Germany to South Australia in 1846 Tanya

Seeking information on William and Catherine Orchard (nee Robertson) who journeyed from Liverpool, Endgland to Portland, Victoria, Australia on the Flora McDonald in 1852 Tanya