Hi I am seeking information about the "Oromocto", particularly between 1860-1863. Any help will be appreciated. Regards Jim

Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:12:18 -0700 From: Diane Lott <[email protected]> Subject: [TSL] Immigration Question..hit a brick wall To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <C49007E2.66A4%[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Any information on Anna Marie Bender who immigrated 1911 (per marriage license and census of S Dak) with 3-4 year old daughter Katarina Bender. Searched ancestry.com lists and Ellis Island and have hit a brick wall. Anna Bender born Berlin Germany 24 Jan 1880. Father born Austria/Hungary (emphasis Hungary) child Katarina born Yugoslavia. No info on port of departure. Have hit a brick wall.Hi Diane, From what part of South Dakota? Some people who immigrated to the Dakota's came through Canada. Good Luck, Catherine > _________________________________________________________________ Do more with your photos with Windows Live Photo Gallery. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_photos_022008

Hi All Does anyone know how I can access the passenger list of the "Jane Duffus"? I believe that an ancestor emigrated on this vessel, sailing in May 1843. Best regards Jim

Hi Jim, The only surviving list for the JANE DUFFUS 1843 is just a partial list http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/index.htm Jane Duffus 1843, from Glasgow to Quebec (partial list) http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/janeduffus1843.htm The only reason we even have that is because the Captain got into trouble. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 07:59 PM 2008-07-01 +0100, Jim Blythe wrote: >Hi All > >Does anyone know how I can access the passenger list of the "Jane Duffus"? >I believe that an ancestor emigrated on this vessel, sailing in May 1843. > >Best regards >Jim

Any information on Anna Marie Bender who immigrated 1911 (per marriage license and census of S Dak) with 3-4 year old daughter Katarina Bender. Searched ancestry.com lists and Ellis Island and have hit a brick wall. Anna Bender born Berlin Germany 24 Jan 1880. Father born Austria/Hungary (emphasis Hungary) child Katarina born Yugoslavia. No info on port of departure. Have hit a brick wall.

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 185 > > > In a message dated 6/30/2008 3:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Does anyone know if the Queen Mary ever berthed in any Australian > port c 1956 ?? > > > Absolutely not. In 1956 the Queen Mary would have been doing the > round trip > trans-Atlantic only. > Thanks Allan and everyone else who replied . I didnt think it did but wanted to be sure Someone on another list wanted passenger info of a family travelling here c 1956. That explains why I couldn't find a ref ! Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

Hi Barbara, We have learned through anecdotal information that there is always some seed of truth to every family oral history. The bark (barque) CAMPERDOWN made several trips to Canada. Bruce Elliott makes mention of several of those passengers in 1819 in his book . . mentioned here on this steamboat list http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819ns10sep.htm http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/ships1819d.htm#camperdown Althought that vessel sailed several times to Quebec, it seems that 1819 was the only time it carried a large number of emigrants. Here are the Lloyds details from Gilbert Provost's website http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/ShipsC.htm CAMPERDOWN - 1819-1826 (Green Book - Underwriters) Master: Captain J. Evans (1819-20); Captain W. Dails (1821-22); Captain W. Raisebeck (1823-25) Captain Gall (1826) Rigging: Ship; single deck with beams; sheathed in 1814, 1819 & 1825; sheating repaired in 1822; fastened with iron bolts Tonnage: 355 tons Construction: in Whitby; vessel 22 years old (1819); major repairs in 1814, 1818, 1821 & 1825; some repairs in 1823; new keel in 1825 Owners: Kirkman & Co. (1819-23); Wharton (1824-26) Draught under load: 16 feet Port of survey: Hull (1819-24/1826); London (1825) Voyage: sailed for Miramichi (1819-20); America (1821-22); Québec (1823/1825); Pictou (1824); Baltic Sea (1826) (Red Book - Shipowners) Master: Captain Evans (1819-20); Captain Dales (1821-23); Captain Raisebeck (1824-26) Rigging: Ship; single deck with beams; sheathed in 1814 & 1821 Tonnage: 356 tons Construction: 1798 in Whitby; partial new wales in 1813; some repairs in 1814 & 1825; new keel & major repairs in 1820 Owners: Captain (1819-23); Wharton (1824-26) Draught under load: 16 feet Port of survey: Hull (1819-22/1824); Liverpool (1823); London (1825-26) Voyage: sailed for the Baltic Sea (1819-20); America (1821-22/1824); Elsinborg (1823); St. Petersburg (1825-26) Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 05:51 PM 2008-06-30 -0600, Barbara Gillon wrote: >Our gggrandmother, Jane WATKINS, born abt 1812, supposedly left Ireland >for Canada in the 1820s on the CAMPERDOWN...."during the potatoe >famine"...but that was before the potatoe famine....so it's been hard to >know from the family accounts what was true. I recorded a website site >about the Camperdown a few years ago that is now "page cannot be >displayed" > > I've been unable to find the surname WATKINS on any ship list of the > CAMPERDOWN......I would love some help on this if there is anyone who > could help me.... > >Barbara Lewis Gillonca,[er

AB 'Banjo' Paterson travelled on the Burns Philp Steamer MAMBARE on a round trip to the South Pacific Islands departing Sydney late 26 May 1902. Also aboard were 12 Australian ex-Boer War Veterans travelling to take up Burns Philp land allotments on South Santo in the then New Hebrides. In researching the names of those 14 men of whom 11 stayed in Santo and 3 returned to Sydney, I'd like to obtain a copy of the MAMBARE's Passenger List for that particular voyage of the MAMBARE. Can anyone advise me where to look next? If there are any 'Banjo' Patterson enthusiasts out there, upon your request, I will send you a photocopy of his article about his trip as published in the SMH September 1902. Hopefully one good deed deserves a ready response. Cheers for now Jim Burton

The NY times reported that the Saxonia sailed on May 4, 1860 from Hamburg in the "Incoming Steamers" column. The London Times reported on May 10: Gravesend, May 9. 9 30a.m.--Wind, S.W.; tide, five hours' ebb; weather, fine.... 1 p.m.--Wind, W.; tide, second hour's flood; weather, fine. Arrived.--...the steamer Saxonia, from Hamburg... On May 18, the London Times mentions in "The Mails" column: ...The Hamburg-American Company's screw steamer Saxonia, Captain Ehlers, arrived here this morning from hamburg, and leaves on Friday for New York with German and English mails, a large number of passengers, and a full cargo. Then, on May 31, the NY Times reported in the shipping news the following two items: May 30.--In steamship Saxonia, from Hamburg--Mrs. Goldschmidt, four children and nurse; Mrs. Paepke, Mr. Jos Schiereaberg, Emma Rose, L.M. Meyer, J. Labast, L.M. Meyer, L. Tesel, F. Arnold, E. Randolph, G. Ditters, Mr. Gerbersling, lady and daughter; W. Wolfe, M. Landberg, P. Wallfers, J. Heye, Dr. E.A. Fellers and lady, R. Cansorworth, H. Oppenhiemer, A. Recknagle, H. Benersen, Mrs. Baurmer, C. Berger, Miss Berger, B. Ballorer, S. Oliver, Basiere Perriune, L. Vachez, A. Schawtz, F. Hauser and lady, Miss Meroelies, Miss Hoffman, Mrs. Sheppervale, L. Staples, B. Scuyeson, F. Hewok, Mr. Brascowater and Lady Callanmama, D. Lide, A. Tidinmann, The. Ruger, L.H. Peterson and lady, T.L. Vaight and lady, H. Janghaus. -------- Arrived. Steamship Saxonia, (Ham.,) Ehlers, Hamburg May 15, and Southampton 18th, at 2 P.M., with mdse and 614 passengers to Kunhardt & Co. Has experienced very changeable weather, fresh southerly and westerly winds prevailing. Took a pilot from pilot boat W.J. Romer, No. 12, May 28, lat. 47 35, lon. 34, passed steamer Tentonia, hence for Southampton and Hamburg. 26th, lat. 43 39, lon. 50 55, passed Brem. bark Elizabeth, bd. W. Regards.. Marj At 06:06 PM 6/30/2008, [email protected] wrote: >I know that my ancestors arrived in New York City on the Saxonia on May 30, >1860. Their names were Carl and Fredericka Lindeman, both born about 1830 in >Mecklenburg Germany. They would have had with them a small daughter Lena (or >possibly called Caroline) who would have been about a year old. Also, a >daughter Fredericka about four. What I would like to know is >whether any more >children are with them. I have seen another Caroline born about >1844 credited as >their child. Does anyone like that appear with them? I would be enormously >grateful for the information. Thanks very much. > > > >**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >fuel-efficient used >cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very, very much! In a message dated 6/30/2008 6:13:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: If you go to the Castle Garden website and do the following search, you'll find out who accompanied them. http://www.castlegarden.org/about.html visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

[email protected] wrote: > I know that my ancestors arrived in New York City on the Saxonia on May 30, > 1860. Their names were Carl and Fredericka Lindeman, both born about 1830 in > Mecklenburg Germany. They would have had with them a small daughter Lena (or > possibly called Caroline) who would have been about a year old. Also, a > daughter Fredericka about four. What I would like to know is whether any more > children are with them. If you go to the Castle Garden website and do the following search, you'll find out who accompanied them. http://www.castlegarden.org/about.html First Name: blank Last Name: Lin* Year Range: 1860-1860 Search When the results appear, make sure the second date in the year range is 1860, then select Saxonia as the ship's name from the drop-down list. Good luck! Kathy

I know that my ancestors arrived in New York City on the Saxonia on May 30, 1860. Their names were Carl and Fredericka Lindeman, both born about 1830 in Mecklenburg Germany. They would have had with them a small daughter Lena (or possibly called Caroline) who would have been about a year old. Also, a daughter Fredericka about four. What I would like to know is whether any more children are with them. I have seen another Caroline born about 1844 credited as their child. Does anyone like that appear with them? I would be enormously grateful for the information. Thanks very much. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Our gggrandmother, Jane WATKINS, born abt 1812, supposedly left Ireland for Canada in the 1820s on the CAMPERDOWN...."during the potatoe famine"...but that was before the potatoe famine....so it's been hard to know from the family accounts what was true. I recorded a website site about the Camperdown a few years ago that is now "page cannot be displayed" I've been unable to find the surname WATKINS on any ship list of the CAMPERDOWN......I would love some help on this if there is anyone who could help me.... Barbara Lewis Gillonca,[er

In a message dated 6/30/2008 3:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone know if the Queen Mary ever berthed in any Australian port c 1956 ?? Absolutely not. In 1956 the Queen Mary would have been doing the round trip trans-Atlantic only. Allan Jordan **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Does anyone know if the Queen Mary ever berthed in any Australian port c 1956 ?? I remember her as a trans Atlantic liner for most of her working life and maybe a troop carrier for a while in WW2 ?? Many thanks Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

Hi Jim, None of those name spellings fit with any names on TheShipsList website. If we are lucky enough to have your Thomas and John included in the St. Lawrence steamboat Co. records, they might have been mistranscribed, or hard to read eg. Co----? We have transcribed all the surviving lists for 1823 .. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20index.htm (take a moment to read the blurb about the records) We also have the newspaper reports of ships arriving at Quebec http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm#canada This was the first 1823 Quebec arrival from Londonderry . . . and ONLY one for 1823 June 18 ship Cossack Thompson 29 Apr Londonderry 313 settlers to Wm. Pemberton, salt The same ship in 1822 along with others July 01 ship Cossack Thompson 19 May Londonderry 275 passengers to order / cargo bricks and tar July 04 brig Betsey Cowan 20 May Londonderry 162 settlers to P. Burnett / in ballast July 06 brig Kent Sterling 22 May Londonderry 157 settlers to order / in ballast Aug 21 ship Hercules Power 13 July Londonderry 130 settlers to Irvine & Co. / salt and goods Aug 23 brig Janet Dunlop Snowden 30 June Londonderry 63 settlers to Irvine & Co. / coals Don't discount 1821 either . . the first vessel for Quebec didn't leave until May 19th Passengers arriving at Quebec were able to remain on board for at least forty-eight hours, so you often see them embarking on the steamboats by about the 3rd day after arrival at Quebec. Sometimes they spent some time in Quebec to earn some money ? because of illness ? before proceeding inward. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 08:40 AM 2008-06-30 -0500, Jim White wrote: >Hi List: > >I am looking for sailing ships from Londonderry to Quebec. I believe the >exact year was 1823, but it could have been 1822, or 1824-1829. I believe >the ship would have left Londonderry in the early spring, and arrived >Quebec approx mid June-mid July. > >If available, I am also looking for the passenger list for these >ships. The family name I am looking for is >"Cobane/Cobean/Cobaen/Cobain". The family heads were Thomas and John. > >Thomas and John Cobean received their Land Petition on 04 March >1824. Thus, I assume they must have arrived the previous summer (1823) , >in order to be in Ontario on 04 March 1824. The last child was born in >Ireland, on 21 April 1821, thus the emigration would have to be after this >date, but before 04 March 1824. > >Other family members may have arrived later, as they settled on their land >in 1829. It is possible they came, and stayed with Thomas and John, but >there is no record of this. Their names were William, Robert, Edward, >Mary, and possibly father John & their mother (name unknown). > >All help and suggestions with the above request will be deeply appreciated. > >Kindest Regards > >Jim White > >Naples, Florida

Jim Although Canada did not archive passenger lists before 1865 -- you are in a bit of luck. When immigrants arrived at Quebec steamers took them on to Montreal. Check out the St Lawrence Steamship Co. passenger lists here http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20index.htm Regards.. Marj At 09:40 AM 6/30/2008, Jim White wrote: >Hi List: > >I am looking for sailing ships from Londonderry to Quebec. I >believe the exact year was 1823, but it could have been 1822, or >1824-1829. I believe the ship would have left Londonderry in the >early spring, and arrived Quebec approx mid June-mid July. > >If available, I am also looking for the passenger list for these >ships. The family name I am looking for is >"Cobane/Cobean/Cobaen/Cobain". The family heads were Thomas and John. > >Thomas and John Cobean received their Land Petition on 04 March >1824. Thus, I assume they must have arrived the previous summer >(1823) , in order to be in Ontario on 04 March 1824. The last child >was born in Ireland, on 21 April 1821, thus the emigration would >have to be after this date, but before 04 March 1824. > >Other family members may have arrived later, as they settled on >their land in 1829. It is possible they came, and stayed with >Thomas and John, but there is no record of this. Their names were >William, Robert, Edward, Mary, and possibly father John & their >mother (name unknown). > >All help and suggestions with the above request will be deeply appreciated. > >Kindest Regards > >Jim White > >Naples, Florida >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Queen Mary was most certainly a troopship that ran unescorted to move American and Canadian troops across the pond. Does anyone know how many times the QM visited Halifax on passenger runs after the war? Ivan

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for June 2008 is . . . o Passengers: o CANADA & US o Chambly - 28th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 27th September 1829 o Chambly - 29th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 1st October 1829 o Chambly - 30th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 6th October 1829 o Chambly - 31st trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 10th October 1829 o Chambly - 32nd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 16th October 1829 o Chambly - 33rd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 21st October 1829 o Chambly - 34th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 27th October 1829 o Chambly - 35th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 3rd November 1829 o Chambly - 36th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 7th November 1829 o Chambly - 37th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 14th November 1829 The last of the CHAMBLY lists for 1829. I'll be starting the 2nd half of the JOHN MOLSON lists next. 1829 was a wonderful year for steamboat records as there are surviving records for FIVE boats. If you've checked the index page, you'll probably think I can't count as there are only four shown . . . but, there is another on the next microfilm reel, so I'll add that (the ST. LAWRENCE) at a later date. :-} o Passengers: o SOUTH AUSTRALIA o barque Constantine, from Plymouth to Port Adelaide 1st July 1855 o ship Octavia, from Southampton to Port Adelaide 19th July 1855 o ship South Sea, from Plymouth to Port Adelaide 30th July 1855 Lots and lots of young women on these three ships, most of them Irish. The SOUTH SEA even has a lot of single young men, also mostly Irish, which was unusual as the regulations ca. 1853 states in part >>> 2. The separation of husbands and wives and of parents from children under 18 will in no case be allowed. 3. Single women under 18 cannot be taken without their parents, unless they go under the immediate care of some near relatives. Single women over 35 years of age are ineligible. Single women with illigitimate children can in no case be taken. 4. Single men cannot be taken unless they are sons in eligible families, containing at least a corresponding number of daughters. >>> (you can find the full transcript of the qualifications for assisted passage, on the index page .. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.htm ) The SOUTH SEA even includes two Mariners . . . I've never seen that before. Whether they were "distressed seamen" given passage to a safe port, or seamen landed as immigrants, I don't know. Now ... as well as my standard request (below) for corrections or additions to any of the lists, I send out an S.O.S. for help with the OCTAVIA list !! There was no surviving "official" list, only the newspaper list. Robert and I have done our absolute best to fill in the gaps which began with "Mr. & Mrs. XXXX and xx children," so please pass this *new* email to any list you belong to where we might be able to get some help from those listers . . Robert, a reminder for you to send it to AUS-SAGEN <grin> If anyone is able to furnish corrections or additions (like maiden names) to any of the South Australia Lists, please write to Robert or myself. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy ! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi List: I am looking for sailing ships from Londonderry to Quebec. I believe the exact year was 1823, but it could have been 1822, or 1824-1829. I believe the ship would have left Londonderry in the early spring, and arrived Quebec approx mid June-mid July. If available, I am also looking for the passenger list for these ships. The family name I am looking for is "Cobane/Cobean/Cobaen/Cobain". The family heads were Thomas and John. Thomas and John Cobean received their Land Petition on 04 March 1824. Thus, I assume they must have arrived the previous summer (1823) , in order to be in Ontario on 04 March 1824. The last child was born in Ireland, on 21 April 1821, thus the emigration would have to be after this date, but before 04 March 1824. Other family members may have arrived later, as they settled on their land in 1829. It is possible they came, and stayed with Thomas and John, but there is no record of this. Their names were William, Robert, Edward, Mary, and possibly father John & their mother (name unknown). All help and suggestions with the above request will be deeply appreciated. Kindest Regards Jim White Naples, Florida