On 15 Jul 2008 at 21:42, Arvid Hardin HATM wrote: > > All Canadian Ships List info for Canada, both pre and post > confederation (1867) appear to be held at the National > Archives of Canada in Ottawa. You may wish to go to that > site. You may wish to use the chart found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/canada/ It has 2 columns - PRE 1865 and POST 1865 - containing links to all projects online with ships passenger lists to Canada Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected]

Hi List I would be very appreciative of any information on the Araminta, in particular a passenger list. A Catherine Hogan (and family) was listed as being on this ship as an assisted immigrant, but I have been unable to find and actual passenger list so I could see who the family were as I am unsure if this is my family member. My Catherine Hogan was born 1834 in Tipperary Ireland and was married in 1856 in Geelong Victoria. She married an Antonio Vienna who was a seaman. Any advice or information would be wonderful Regards Lynne Victoria Australia

Hi Lynne, Blaxland.com shows arrival info and a bit about the ship Master: Thomas Feran Rigging: ship Weight: 845 Origin: 20th Jun 1852 Liverpool Destination: 4th Oct 1852 Geelong This looks like it might be the ship Vessel Name: ARAMINTA Official No.: 9001245 Nationality: Canadian Constructed Date: 1851 City: Kingston Province: New Brunswick Registered Date: 1851 Country: Canada City: Saint John Province: New Brunswick Vessel Description Rigging Style: Ship Gross Tonnage: 841 In the Sydney Shipping Gazette Volume 9, Number 446 (16 October, 1852) page 289 http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html Geelong arrivals: Oct. 2. MARGARET, from Sydney ; ARAMINTA, from Liverpool with 380 immigrants ..... The ARAMINTA from Liverpool, arrived off Point Richards, on Friday last, where she anchored. In getting under way again the jib filled unexpectedly, and the ship cast the wrong way, falling broadside towards the bank. She draws fifteen feet, and is now lying with 18 feet of water alongside. The Araminta is 103 days out, having now on board 394 souls, immigrants. 24 deaths have occurred during the voyage, chiefly from diarrhoea. No deaths have occurred since 29th September last. One man was lost overboard.__ Melbourne Herald I can't help with the passenger list, other than what you've already found, but other listers should be able to point you in the right direction. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 08:44 PM 2008-07-17 +1000, Lynne Barnard wrote: >Hi List > >I would be very appreciative of any information on the Araminta, in >particular a passenger list. A Catherine Hogan (and family) was listed as >being on this ship as an assisted immigrant, but I have been unable to find >and actual passenger list so I could see who the family were as I am unsure >if this is my family member. My Catherine Hogan was born 1834 in Tipperary >Ireland and was married in 1856 in Geelong Victoria. She married an Antonio >Vienna who was a seaman. > >Any advice or information would be wonderful > >Regards > >Lynne >Victoria Australia

I am trying to locate my Ancestors William & Catherine Dunbar on board ship information to see where the sailed from and to. I know they sailed from some where In Ireland and landed in Penn or some where in that area between 1729 to 1733. thank you Billy Dunbar **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

Hi Linda, I had a look at the passenger list. It said she was 29 years & 6 months, which makes her born about 1886-1887. She is going to her father, Mr. Alex. Parks at Lexington Mass., but it also says she was born in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada and had been in the US for 20 years ! Sometimes in that spot they'll say was in the US before from xxxx year to xxxx year, or even mention months. North American outbound lists do not survive. British inbound lists do survive, but they are not filmed or even indexed (yet), so it would be quite costly to hire a researcher to check boxes of manifests trying to find her UK arrival. Unfortunately, the place on the first page where you would read who and at what address she was leaving, has been filled with the information for the person below. They crossed through her line(s), repeated the info for the correct person, but didn't write in a correction for her. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 09:07 PM 2008-07-15 -0400, urwithlinda wrote: >Helen A Parks born in Massachusettes in1893 daughter of Alex Parks and >Barbara Kerr returned to New York on the Tuscania in 1916. She was a >nurse so I wondered if this was a troop ship bringing personnel home. How >can I locate when she went overseas? Thank you Linda

In my search of the archives for information on the Commodore Perry which sailed in 1855 bringing my German ancestor to Australia, I came across this message and thought I would add to the message for anyone who may be interested. A more complete article reads: A curious circumstance in connection with the emigration of the last year is that about 31,600 German emigrants sailed from Liverpool in preference to sailing from Hamburg, Bremen, Rotterdam, or Antwerp. The arrangements are now so complete that they find it cheaper and more expeditious to cross over to England by steamer, and make their way to Liverpool rather than to ship at the ports of their own country, or those of Ireland or Belgium. The greater part of the German emigrants who sailed from Liverpool in 1852, were from the duchy of Baden and the kingdom of Wurtemberg; and there were also 2,000 emigrants from Switzerland. They all came down the Rhine, and most of them reached Liverpool by way of Rotterdam and Hull, though some came by the Cork Company's steamers directly from Rotterdam, and others by sea from Hamburgh...(Source: Reynolds's Newspaper, February 6, 1853, p.3) There are passenger lists for those Germans leaving through Hamburg, but virtually no records exist if they left through other ports. Many may have left Germany through unofficial means and so there may be no records of their leaving other than possibly those that may be in their village records. Helen, in Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Re: [TSL] FROM GERMANY TO AUSTRALIA VIA ENGLAND 1854/5 Sue Swiggum <[email protected]> on 17/05/2003 Hi Carol, You might be interested in this interesting tid-bit posted to this list in February this year. The lister who posted this, found it in the Glasgow Herald. Unfortunately it doesn't go into detail of how they reached England. 150 YEARS AGO A CURIOUS circumstance in connection with the emigration of the last year is that about 31,600 German emigrants sailed from Liverpool in preference to sailing from Hamburg, Bremen, Rotterdam, or Antwerp. The arrangements are now so complete that they find it cheaper to cross to England and make their way to Liverpool. The greater part of the German emigrants who sailed in 1852 were from the Duchy of Baden and the Kingdom of Wurtemberg. ________________________________________ Sue -- At 04:29 PM 2003-05-17 +1000, Carol Foulger wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I have another query: > >Church records indicate my SOMMER family left Untereisesheim near >Heilbronn (in the southern part of Germany) on 18th December 1854. > >We know they sailed from Liverpool on the Commodore Perry on 12th January >1855 (her maiden voyage). > >I can guess that they travelled down the Rhine perhaps part of the way, >and went from Hamburg to a port on the east coast of England, but are >there records which will tell me? > >It must have been some journey at that time of the year, with 3 children, >the youngest a baby of 6 weeks, who, like a lot of others, "died on >voyage". > >TIA > >Carol in Australia

Linda The NY Times reports the Tuscania making regular passenger runs in 1916. The US did not enter the war until 1917. Regards.. Marj At 09:07 PM 7/15/2008, urwithlinda wrote: >Helen A Parks born in Massachusettes in1893 daughter of Alex Parks >and Barbara Kerr returned to New York on the Tuscania in 1916. She >was a nurse so I wondered if this was a troop ship bringing >personnel home. How can I locate when she went overseas? Thank you Linda >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In !862 Victoria and Vancouver Island were part of the British Colony of British Columbia. The two formerly separate colonies of Vancouver Island and New Caledonia were united in 1858 with the Capital in Victoria BC. You may find marriage, birth, death and other vital statistics at the Royal BC Museum site. I had a quick look and there doesn't appear to be any ship list there. All Canadian Ships List info for Canada, both pre and post confederation (1867) appear to be held at the National Archives of Canada in Ottawa. You may wish to go to that site. Good Luck. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Greenaway Sent: July 15, 2008 1:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TSL] 'CYCLONE' Sailed from Gravesend 8.5.1862 bound for VictoriaIsland BC Canada Good afternoon This is my first message to THESHIPLIST so I hope this is a reasonable question. I am trying to locate a passenger list for the sailing as in the title. I would appreciate any advice as to a possible source should it be available. The arrival date of the of the ship at Victoria, Vancouver Island would be a wonderful bonus if anyone could suggest a source for me to follow up. Cyclone Sailed from Gravesend May 8 1862 Bound for Victoria Island, BC Canada. Very many thanks Mr. R Greenaway ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Helen A Parks born in Massachusettes in1893 daughter of Alex Parks and Barbara Kerr returned to New York on the Tuscania in 1916. She was a nurse so I wondered if this was a troop ship bringing personnel home. How can I locate when she went overseas? Thank you Linda

Good afternoon This is my first message to THESHIPLIST so I hope this is a reasonable question. I am trying to locate a passenger list for the sailing as in the title. I would appreciate any advice as to a possible source should it be available. The arrival date of the of the ship at Victoria, Vancouver Island would be a wonderful bonus if anyone could suggest a source for me to follow up. Cyclone Sailed from Gravesend May 8 1862 Bound for Victoria Island, BC Canada. Very many thanks Mr. R Greenaway

Can anyone help with finding my great grandmother on passenger lists? Anne WHITTAKER or WHITAKER was born in 1854 in Woodlesford, Leeds, Yorkshire England. Her father died in India when she was young. After her mother died in the early 1870s she went to St. Petersburg, Russia to visit an Uncle Moss, a member of a prominent English family who had moved to Russia to set up business interests. While in Russia, she met and married an Englishman from Northumberland, England, John Simpson, born 1846. Census records of 1881 show them as being married and visiting in England. Wondering if anyone can help with finding my great grandmother or both great grandparents on passenger lists between England and St. Petersburg, Russia. Thanks for any help with this, Marina Ontario, Canada

Wondering if anyone could help me break down my brick wall. John WHITTAKER or WHITAKER born 1827 in Oulton, Leeds, Yorkshire England, married widow Emma Smalley nee Lee in 1852 in Yorkshire, England. They had a daughter Anne Whittaker in Yorkshire England in 1854, then off he went to India. John died in India either 1857, 1858 or possibly even into the 1860s. Family legend states he was murdered by his servant during an uprising, so I interpret that to mean he died in the Indian Mutiny of 1857, also called the Sepoy Rebellion. Can anyone help with finding him on any passenger lists between England and India? Thanks, Marina Ontario, Canada

Hi, The ship was the Cunard Line CARONIA http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/cunard.html http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsC.html In 1910 they probably went by train to a western European port, then a quick "feeder-ship" / ferry ride to a eastern England port, then train to Liverpool. This was called transmigration. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html . . and was a pretty common practise. Feeder ships http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/feeders.html Those passenger lists do NOT survive, and I do not think you would find the UK arrival port or name of the "feeder ship" to England on the records before 1906 . . . The guide Debbie Beavis wrote for TheShipsList ... http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/ukrecords.html ... doesn't seem to mention that. She had written in later emails >> British lists give much less information than the equivalent arrival list for the United States, but for lists after 1906, can often give the elusive information of the name of the ship which brought transmigrants from the continent of Europe, into the UK. This is the only way of extracting that information as there are no arrival lists for these voyages (see below). Note that the name of the ship is sometimes given, but was not required. From 1907, the name of the steamship line bringing these transmigrants to the UK was a requirement, and this may open new avenues for tracing the name of the ship,should it not be separately recorded. << You can find British Outbound lists here, but there is a charge to access the full original record (searching the indexed names is free) http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:00 AM 2008-07-15 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >With help from kindly researchers I found my grandmother and mother on SS >Canonia (spelling?) 30 Aug 1910 arrive NY from LIverpool. >they lived in Palesnik Hungary ( now Croatia). How would they have gotten >from There to Liverpool? Ferry and from where? Trieste? >Whatever help you could give me is appreciated.

Sorry I meant that my relatives came over in 1940 from Italy on the Rex. Ellenjane **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

Enrico, I had relatives that came over from Italy on the REX but in 1930. What are their names? They might be listed on Ancestry. I know my realtives are listed. Ellenjane LaSorsa **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

The ships from Hamburg bringing Eastern European immigrants also stopped at Antwerp and Liverpool on the way out to Canada at least and probably the US as well. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Swiggum Sent: July 15, 2008 9:04 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] From Europe to Liverpool? Hi, The ship was the Cunard Line CARONIA http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/cunard.html http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsC.html In 1910 they probably went by train to a western European port, then a quick "feeder-ship" / ferry ride to a eastern England port, then train to Liverpool. This was called transmigration. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html . . and was a pretty common practise. Feeder ships http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/feeders.html Those passenger lists do NOT survive, and I do not think you would find the UK arrival port or name of the "feeder ship" to England on the records before 1906 . . . The guide Debbie Beavis wrote for TheShipsList ... http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/ukrecords.html ... doesn't seem to mention that. She had written in later emails >> British lists give much less information than the equivalent arrival list for the United States, but for lists after 1906, can often give the elusive information of the name of the ship which brought transmigrants from the continent of Europe, into the UK. This is the only way of extracting that information as there are no arrival lists for these voyages (see below). Note that the name of the ship is sometimes given, but was not required. From 1907, the name of the steamship line bringing these transmigrants to the UK was a requirement, and this may open new avenues for tracing the name of the ship,should it not be separately recorded. << You can find British Outbound lists here, but there is a charge to access the full original record (searching the indexed names is free) http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:00 AM 2008-07-15 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >With help from kindly researchers I found my grandmother and mother on SS >Canonia (spelling?) 30 Aug 1910 arrive NY from LIverpool. >they lived in Palesnik Hungary ( now Croatia). How would they have gotten >from There to Liverpool? Ferry and from where? Trieste? >Whatever help you could give me is appreciated. ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Enrico, Probably one of the most beautiful ocean liners built, there is an article on the REX at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Rex Many photos at http://paginas.terra.com.br/lazer/Navigazione/Rex.html Sorry I cannot help with passengers. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enrico" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:18 AM Subject: [TSL] S.S. Rex >I am looking for any information, especially the passenger list for the > Italian line ship "Rex" specifically for March, 1939. I came to this > country > on the Rex when I was a baby along with my brother and parents who were > fleeing fascist Italy. > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.8/1547 - Release Date: 11/07/2008 > 18:05 > > >

With help from kindly researchers I found my grandmother and mother on SS Canonia (spelling?) 30 Aug 1910 arrive NY from LIverpool. they lived in Palesnik Hungary ( now Croatia). How would they have gotten from There to Liverpool? Ferry and from where? Trieste? Whatever help you could give me is appreciated.

i am trying to find details of the loss of the whaler Germania in 1854. That’s all I know apart from that she was registered in Hull. I would be most grateful for any help Many thanks Richard R. J. B. Collinson Norwich United Kingdom 52°38'31.58"N 001°17'36.86"E www.family-trees.org.uk

Two postings to ancestry.com and I have found a chink in the brick wall. Thanks to all who pondered this and helped me break through Diane Lott