----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard W. Hinde" <[email protected]> To: "ShipsList" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:19 AM Subject: [TSL] UK > Australia about 1910 Hi Richard > > Her name was Elizabeth Ann Farris (nee Hinde). She was > married to Thomas Farris and when he died in 1908 sometime > after that she departed England. They were living in > Silvertown, West Ham, so I'm thinking she may have sailed > from London. There is a Bessie FARRIS in Findmypast passenger departures travelling London - Fremantle 1909 ?? Indexes to WA BDMs have been on line for while http://www.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx An Elizabeth Anne FARRIS m William HUNTER in 1920 ? Perths cemeteries data base is also on line http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php Theres an Elizabeth Anne HUNTER d 1948 ages 89 , thats probably her > Ancestry have some Australian electoral rolls in line In 1916 Elizabeth Ann FARRIS, home duties, was living at 16 Lacey St East Perth with Ellen FARRIS, dressmaker and Robert FARRIS, bank officer For more local help suggest you subscribe to the DPS-Chat mailing list , which is based in Perth WA HTH Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

I believe the above man arrived in NZ in about 1911-1913. He was a steward on a ship from England. Does anyone have any info about this man? There is a very old message on the ShipsList Archives from 2001, but I cannot make contact!! HJC Young was born in London in 1893. Sincerely Edna Young

Can anyone help with a sighting or insight in to death of Captain Findlay Fraser HIRD on the Gold Coast in early 1915? Would also appreciate guidance on where to start finding out more about his career? So far finding the wealth of sources a bit confusing. Our evidence is ... Notice of death in the "Arbroath Guide" of 6th February 1916 states ³HIRD - At Addah, Gold Coast, West Africa, on the 21st January, Captain Findlay Fraser Hird, son of the late Alexander Hird, Inchcape, Arbroath² He married in Birkenhead in 1895. We have searched the BT/27 index for ships leaving from Liverpool for West Coast of Africa he appears as "first officer " for Elder Dempster on two ships S S ANGOLA (ON 97875) Liverpool to West Africa 12th May 1900, 3rd August 1900 and 3rd November 1900 And S S SOBO (ON 110056) from Liverpool to West Africa 16th August 1899, 3rd February 1900, and 5th May 1900 We have searched all ships from Liverpool from 1 Jan 1915 to February 1916 and no sighting of F F Hird as Captain of any ship. However it looks like he sails on the SS NIGERIA as a passenger to Accra on 24 Feb 1915. Any help or suggestions most welcome Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning, Final posting for the morning to the list. This time I'm looking for my grandfather's sister that left England and went to Australia to join her family around 1909/1910. Her name was Elizabeth Ann Farris (nee Hinde). She was married to Thomas Farris and when he died in 1908 sometime after that she departed England. They were living in Silvertown, West Ham, so I'm thinking she may have sailed from London. From what I can put together she may have been traveling with the children or gone out on her own to meet them. About 1910 she arrived in Bridgetown, Western Australia. The children are Elizabeth Jane Farris b. 1884; Ellen Farris b. 1885; Roland Pritchard Farris b. 1888; Robert Thomas Farris b. 1890 and Ernest Trafalgar Farris b. 1896. I have yet to find any record of their travel on the passenger list I've checked so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Richard Hinde Louisa, Virginia

Morning, While tracing my grandfather, John Winter HINDE we found that he was indentured to John Miller Way of Portland in 1875 for a period of 4 years aboard the "Huron" (Reg. # 61959). According to his apprentice records he deserted the ship on 15 Jan 1879 at Penarth. Family history has him arriving in Key West, Florida, USA in 1880 where he jumped ship again. Long story short this was confirmed by a lady in Australia a few years ago that knew his sister. I believe one of the reasons grandfather deserted in Penarth was because he had family there in the shipping industry. There was a William Hinde that was a shipowner and good friend of Sir Thomas Morel. Plus relatives that were involved with the Morel Brothers shipping through marriage. Now on to my query, I have yet to find how he got to Key West. Might there be a listing of ships arriving/stopping in Key West, Florida in the 1880's sailing from Penarth/Cardiff? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Richard Hinde Louisa, Virginia

Morning, Awhile back I posted a query about family members traveling from Weymouth to Quebec in 1857 and received some very helpful answers. Mainly that passenger records weren't required to be kept until 1865. What I'm wondering is it possible that a passenger list may have been recorded at the port of departure, which was Weymouth, County of Dorset, England. The family departed Weymouth on 10 April 1857 aboard the "Atlantic" (I don't have her registration number) and the skipper was Captain Barrett. I found the following at: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1857a.htm Arrived Quebec 3 June 1857 with 11 passengers. My question is would it be possible that the ships records might be held at The National Archives (TNA) in Kew and may show the passengers? My thinking here is that we found my grandfather's Agreement and Account of Crew and his Apprentice records when he was aboard the "Huron" (Reg. # 61959). They show him being indentured to John Miller Way, owner of the Huron for a period of 4 years at the age of 13. It also shows him deserting on 15 Jan 1879 at Penarth and this leads to my next posting. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Richard Hinde Louisa, Virginia

Hello Louisa, Thge XANTIPPE was a 972 ton four masted barque, built 1893 at Belfast for Montgomerie & Workman and was registered in Belfast. In 1895 she disappeared at sea with all hands. For a guide to records of deaths at sea, see http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKDeathsAtSea.html regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louisa Gummer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: [TSL] XANTIPPE, from San Jose de Guatemala to Vancouver Island December 1895 > > Can anyone help me with any information on The Xantippe? I have a > letter written from the ship in July 1895. According to a small > reference in passing in the London Times in 1896 (the only reference to > the ship i can find in their online archive) it was lost at sea in > December 1895 on the way to Vancouver Island, and was posted as > "missing" and crew lost on June 10th 1896 at Lloyds. Can anyone point > me to where I might find the Lloyds references, or any final crew lists > as I would like to know if the letter writer (William James ROSSITER) > was presumed to be one of those crew missing, but I am not sure where to > go. > > Many thanks > > > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1632 - Release Date: 25/08/2008 > 07:05 > > >

Hi Janice, I checked the "Find my Past" index using a range of 1909-1911 http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ but didn't see anything positive leaping out to identify her I checked the 1911 Canada census without anything which fit either. As Lorine posted yesterday, in reading her Blog, the indexed ... http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ ... Canadian passenger lists will soon be available, through Ancestry. Until then, you are able to search the original manifests online at the Library & Archives of Canada http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html You can include the port of departure :: Glasgow :: to narrow the ships which sailed from that port, but there were many many ships :: Allan Line :: Donaldson Line, for example. The Donaldson ships mostly sailed to St. John, New Brunswick and the Allan Line, to Halifax and Quebec. I think Allan Line will be most likely as many young women from Scotland emigrated as Domestics . . . for example Reel Number Ship Name Shipping Line Special Group(s) Departure Information Arrival Information Remarks T-4768 IONIAN (A) Allan Line Steamship Co., Glasgow (D): Mrs. Radford party of Domestics & (O): Icelanders to Winnipeg (5) Glasgow, Scotland 1910-06-17 / Londonderry, Ireland 1910-06-17 Quebec, Que. 1910-06-25 Captain B.J. Eastaway Mrs. Radford brought many groups of young English and Scottish women Domestics to Canada. (If you see Mrs. Rigby party, then those girls were Irish). They are scattered through the lists, rather than on their own page(s). The passenger lists for this period are mostly in quasi-alphabetical order, although you might find names added, after the "W" names. The young women seemed to mostly travel in "Intermediate" class, although some did travel "Steerage." The top right hand side of the page(s) show which class. The Mrs. Radford passengers also have a rubber stamp, or hand written note to that effect, on their line entry. I almost hate to mention it, but she may have sailed from Liverpool, which adds a huge number of ships and lots of other groups of Domestics, like Mrs. Joyce, Mrs. Sanford, Mrs. Francis, as well as Mrs. Radford Partys. There were a lot of sailings from Glasgow, so I do think that would be your best first-choice to search. HINT ... for the online images, click on the image to enlarge it, then hit the 'back' button on your browser to be able to move on to the next page. Good luck Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 11:37 AM 2008-08-27 +1000, Janice Doughty wrote: >Good morning Listers, > >I am hoping SKS may be able to assist me to find a missing young woman. I >am helping a friend to locate his grandmother and her life story. > >Ann Milne Brown is believed to have left her home and family in Edinburgh, >Scotland circa 1910, to immigrate to Canada. She had give birth to a child, >a daughter on 24th December 1909 and she either had the baby adopted or left >her with family friends > >Ann Milne Brown was born on 28th May 1885 to John Brown a Butcher's >Assistant and Mary Brown (nee Knowles). When Ann sailed to Canada she would >have been around 25 years of age. Where she sailed from and the exact date >is unknown, though is believe to have been only months after the birth of >her daughter. Also having such a common name as Ann Brown, would under >normal circumstances make it almost impossible to find her, however it has >been confirmed that she did always use her full name, Ann MILNE Brown. Any >assistance in finding out, the exact year, what port and where she >disembarked in Canada, would be very much appreciated. Once we have an idea >where she disembarked then the next step would be to see if we can find if >she ever married, and with luck maybe find her Canadian family. > >Regards, >Janice >Belrose - Sydney

Good morning Listers, I am hoping SKS may be able to assist me to find a missing young woman. I am helping a friend to locate his grandmother and her life story. Ann Milne Brown is believed to have left her home and family in Edinburgh, Scotland circa 1910, to immigrate to Canada. She had give birth to a child, a daughter on 24th December 1909 and she either had the baby adopted or left her with family friends Ann Milne Brown was born on 28th May 1885 to John Brown a Butcher's Assistant and Mary Brown (nee Knowles). When Ann sailed to Canada she would have been around 25 years of age. Where she sailed from and the exact date is unknown, though is believe to have been only months after the birth of her daughter. Also having such a common name as Ann Brown, would under normal circumstances make it almost impossible to find her, however it has been confirmed that she did always use her full name, Ann MILNE Brown. Any assistance in finding out, the exact year, what port and where she disembarked in Canada, would be very much appreciated. Once we have an idea where she disembarked then the next step would be to see if we can find if she ever married, and with luck maybe find her Canadian family. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney

Hello, I just wanted to offer an FYI about the travels of my husband's great-grandparents. Because of a very helpful researcher, I have found out that Peter GAVIN and Margaret WHALEN / WHELAN came to Massachusetts on different ships in 1883. They were reportedly both born in 1860 in Co. Galway, Ireland (unknown town). But, the "ship list" for each showed the ship took on passengers in Liverpool, England, and then in Queenstown, Ireland. (I just found this out a few days ago and don't have further information than that.) I did a Google search and found out that Queenstown had its name changed Cobh. And it was the 2nd largest "natural Port" in the world, and it was referred to as "the Cove of Cork." So, I have to do more looking to find out whether Peter and Margaret got on the ship in Liverpool or Queenstown. And, whether they lived in different areas before they decided to "come to America." Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (I also don't know whether Peter and Margaret knew each other before they left for Massachusetts, or whether they met in or near Boston. They married in Waltham, MA, one year later.) We may have arrived on different ships but we're all in the same boat now. :o) (thinking genealogy) (possibly first said by Martin Luther King, Jr.)

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Can anyone help me with any information on The Xantippe? I have a letter written from the ship in July 1895. According to a small reference in passing in the London Times in 1896 (the only reference to the ship i can find in their online archive) it was lost at sea in December 1895 on the way to Vancouver Island, and was posted as "missing" and crew lost on June 10th 1896 at Lloyds. Can anyone point me to where I might find the Lloyds references, or any final crew lists as I would like to know if the letter writer (William James ROSSITER) was presumed to be one of those crew missing, but I am not sure where to go. Many thanks

Came across the following, which may be of interest to somebody.......... >From The Illustrated London News, January 16th, 1847 The Thomas Arbuthnot, convict ship, Captain Thompson, sailed from Spithead on Sunday morning, the 10th, for Port Philip, with a superior class of delinquents, officially called “exiles.” These are the first “exiles” sent to the above settlement, which the inhabitants of that respectable place are very wroth at, and have memorialised the Government on the subject. The most ingenious trades and professions are carried on, on board this ship; in fact, all trades in vogue have their representatives on board. The most ingenious affair, however, is a newspaper in manuscript, published every Saturday, having its foreign and domestic correspondence, advertisements, and, indeed, all the necessary accessories to an apparently well-conducted journal. The articles are well-written, and the arrangements well made. The name of this paper is the Citadel, and the conductors dub the captain of the ship “the governor.” The Citadel, having no opponents, enjoys a large circulation. The editor is a man who has been of considerable note in the legitimate literary world; but all names and circumstances in connection with their present position are strictly preserved secret with regard to those “exiles,” the great majority of whom are juvenile offenders from the Millbank, Pentonville and Parkhurst prisons. ................ Regards, Tony

Hi all I am new to this list I am looking for the manifest for the last ship to bring Jews to South Africa - 'Stuttgart' Typka/Tilly Evans came to SA in 1936. She was originally from Lithuania so may have come via Hamburg or the UK. She possibly travelled with her parents Jockel/Yokkel and Sara/Sora. Many thanks Michelle Essers israel

Try this! http://www.geocities.com/mppraetorius/main-com1.htm On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:34:48 -0700 Diane Lott <[email protected]> writes: > One used to contact this gentleman for info on ships. I believe he > is now > retired or ? How can one get photos of ships or a particular ship > of > immigration? > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Compare Cell Phone Carriers- Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oHH6uX6uFyAaUFbPDUdFrxBsnla41CLJ6hZKb7SVGUs4MJt/

Hi Nancy, Kathy correctly states that there was no ship named Verra. Suggest you have a look at Steve Morse's site for the WERRA which was also a North German Lloyd ship from Bremen at the time. There may be another Michaly Beny listed there? regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL CARNER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: [TSL] non-matching records > Hello to all: I tried posting this message a few weeks ago but I don't > think it went thru, never saw it posted; if it is a rerun, I apologize. > > I'm trying to understand why, on the Ellis Island site, my grandfather, > Michaly Beny, arrives aboard the "Dresden" on 05/31/1892 but in the > recently obtained copy of his "Alien Registration Form", it is written > that he arrived on a German boat, the "Verra". I googled the Verra but > couldn't get > anywhere as I don't read German. He came originally from Hungary but an > area that is now in Slovakia. > > Can anyone suggest why the discrepancy in names of ships? Is it likely he > travelled on one ship before crossing the Atlantic on the Dresden, which > sailed from Bremen? I know people often forgot the names of the ships they > arrived on but this seems to be a rather big name difference. What route > might someone from Hungary have taken to get to Bremen? > > I appreciate any input. > Thanks, > Nancy > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 21/08/2008 > 18:54 > > >

One used to contact this gentleman for info on ships. I believe he is now retired or ? How can one get photos of ships or a particular ship of immigration?

MICHAEL CARNER wrote: > on the Ellis Island site, my > grandfather, Michaly Beny, arrives aboard the "Dresden" on 05/31/1892 > but in the recently obtained copy of his "Alien Registration Form", > it is written that he arrived on a German boat, the "Verra". > > Can anyone suggest why the discrepancy in names of ships? The Ellis Island website has the original ship manifests, i.e., the lists that were created at the time the ship crossed the ocean, and that were deposited at Ellis Island when it landed. Although some passengers from continental Europe took a boat to England and left from there, if you look at the first page of the Dresden manifest, you can see that that was not the case here. The Dresden departed from Bremen and did not stop en route, so it did not pick up passengers at any other port. Michaly Beny is listed on the Dresden manifest, so that must have been the ship he traveled on. So why does it say Verra on the alien registration form? Perhaps there was more than one Michaly Beny. Are you sure the alien registration form is for your grandfather? Perhaps the person who completed the form (not necessarily your grandfather) just got things mixed up. If you do a search for the ship Verra at Steve Morse's website: http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/boat.html you'll see that there are no results for a ship of that name. So perhaps "Verra" is the answer to some other question than what was the name of the ship he arrived on. Good luck! Kathy

Hello, Can anyone please tell me anything pertaining to these two ships? Is there a web site that would have information regarding them, maybe a picture? Members of my family arrived in New York 20 May 1847 and 19 May 1845. Thank you. Frances Zimmerman _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/

The ship WALLASEA carried emigrants and immigrants from England to Australia , at some stage of her commission. In particular it was noted on this Mailing List , many years back , that the ship sailed on that run , between 1865 and 1867. Information about the ship is sought. and although such questions have previously been asked on this Mailing List , I am unable to locate any response. So eight years on may I re-open the subject ? Is there information to be had somewhere , on this ship , I wonder ? Cheers Ray _________________________________________________________________ SEEK New Zealand's #1 jobsite http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fmsn%2Eseek%2Eco%2Enz%2FID%5FSEEKNZMAIN%5FUSR%2FPages%2Falliance%5Fhomepage%2Eascx%3FComeFrom%3Dmsnnz%26tracking%3Dsk%3Asptlmini%3Ask%3Amsnnz%3A0%3Awindowslive%3A%231&_t=757263783&_r=Seek_NZ_tagline_no1&_m=EXT