Dear List, Hoping someone can help. I'm trying to locate any ships that would transport immigrants between the West Indies and Victoria between 1848 and 1860, more likely after 1850. The family was George Brown, born c1809 Scotland and his wife Catherine Hortense Amelia Grano, born about 1811 Dominica, W.I. They had at least four children: Henriette/Harriet b. abt. 1842, William b. abt. 1845, Warren George b. abt. 1846 and George Brown b. abt. 1848. They were all born in Dominica and were living in Geelong, Victoria, Australia area in late 1860's. George Brown (father) was a clerk. I have checked the Australian Immigration Records between 1852 and 1923 and no listings for these people, that is easily identified. I did locate one entry in 1854 for Mr. G. Brown 42 years, Mrs. G. Brown 40 years and five children ranging from 17 to 4 years of age. The ship was the Ritterkerk. I have no further info. Any suggestions or ideas would be grateful. Many thanks. Jim Tasmania

Hi. Is there anywhere I can find passenger list of people going from USA to Jamaica . It would be between 1840 and 1850. The name is george edwards aged in his 30's, son Alexander, and maybe an Elizabeth Edwards . Any help would be appreciated, i have looked through various sites and they have plenty of ships going jamaica to USA but not the other way. Thanks Hilda nz

Hi Cindy, I am responding to your email via the list. We don't have ship description and voyage history for every ship in our Fleets ... as people ask about individual ships, if a description and history is available, we add that to the website. Listers can probably come up with the description &c. but I don't know whether they will be able to come up with a picture. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 04:47 PM 2008-09-23 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >hi sue, i finally found some information about the 'dronning lovisa' ship >that sailed from gothenburg to copenhagen in april 1886. it came from >"the ships list" website: > >Dronning Lovisa built - 1861 >notes: ex- Drottning Lovisa, 1881 purchased from Sweden, and renamed >Dronning Lovisa, 1900 sold, renamed Gladys. >531 tons > >when i clicked on the ship descriptions, the dronning lovisa, nor >drottning lovisa, nor gladys appears anywhere in the descriptions. i'm >having a hard time locating any info other than the sentence above. > >i've also tried searching by fleet name. this tells more about the >company than the ship. > >The Fleets > >DFDS - Det forenede Dampskibs-Selskab A/S / (The United Steamship Company) > >Formed in Copenhagen in 1866 by the merger of several small Danish >companies as Det forenede Dampskibs-Selskab A/S (The United Steamship >Co.), the company became an important feeder service for emigrants >travelling via the UK. Numerous Scandinavian companies were taken over, >but one important company was the Thingvalla Line in 1898 which was >reformed as the Scandinavia-America Line. In 1903, French and Russian >subsidiary companies were formed and ships transferred to them. DFDS still >operates passenger services between the Baltic and Norway, Faroe Islands, >Iceland and the UK and freight routes to North and South America and the >Mediterranean. > >what i'm trying to find is a picture of the ship. any suggestions? > >thank you. > >cindy hall >[email protected]

Frank, This was the HANSA, built 1861 and description at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsH.html Photos at http://www.geocities.com/mppraetorius/ regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Ship List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: [TSL] Hansa > > Looking for a description and a downloadable picture if possible. This > Hansa was used for a voyage from Bremen to NY in 1870. Thanks for the > help. Frank Jurenka > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 22/09/2008 16:08

Hi Frank, We have a diagram of a typical bark / barque on TheShipsList Ships Rigging http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/shipsrigging.htm There is a clickable list for the type of rigging. Probably a good site to find a variety of ships is here at Old Ship Picture Gallery http://www.photoship.co.uk/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 04:18 PM 2008-09-23 +0000, [email protected] wrote: >Three different sets of ancestors came to the US in the 1850-1860 time >frame on ships labeled Bark/Barque. These were the Orphan, Ocean Home and >Miles. I know that no picture will be available for these ships but >looking for a downloadable nice picture of a Bark/Barque circa this time >frame or reasonable facsimile of same. Thanks Frank Jurenka

At 11:12 AM 2008-09-18 +0100, Ted Finch wrote: >The Canadian Pacific liner EMPRESS OF BRITAIN, built in 1956 has gone to >shipbreakers at Alang. She was sold to Greek Line in 1964 and renamed QUEEN >ANNA MARIA and used mainly for cruising. 1975 sold to Carnival Cruise Lines, >Panama renamed CARNIVALE. 1993 sold renamed FIESTAMARINA, 1994 renamed >OLYMPIC, 1998 renamed THE TOPAZ. > >Ted Thanks Ted, I'll update the the website. I hadn't been listening close enough to local (Halifax, NS) news this last week because we'd had visitors. I took them downtown Halifax, but we ran out of time to go to Pier 21. The QUEEN ELIZABETH 2, Capt. Ian McNaught, was in port for the very last time, at Pier 22 ... her 27th visit to Halifax, I think. I didn't hear until she was sailing out on Sunday evening. She will complete her nearly 40 year service in November and will spend the next year or so being refitted as a luxury floating hotel at the Palm Jumeirah, the world's largest man-made island, in Dubai. There is an American woman aboard who has lived on the ship for the past 10 years. She will by moving to the Queen Victoria. Capt. McNaught will become that ship's captain next year. Another tid-bit. ... <quote> The captain said the cost of travelling on the ship can range anywhere from $599 British pounds (C$1,148.51) to cross the Atlantic Ocean on one of the lower decks to more than US$333,000 to stay in one of the two large apartments behind the bridge for a world cruise. Capt. McNaught said one gentleman rents one apartment for himself, another for his wife and six cabins for his friends. "He pays the fuel bill for the whole world cruise," Capt. McNaught said with a smile. "We like him. He's a nice guy." </quote> Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Three different sets of ancestors came to the US in the 1850-1860 time frame on ships labeled Bark/Barque. These were the Orphan, Ocean Home and Miles. I know that no picture will be available for these ships but looking for a downloadable nice picture of a Bark/Barque circa this time frame or reasonable facsimile of same. Thanks Frank Jurenka

Looking for a description and a downloadable picture if possible. This Hansa was used for a voyage from Bremen to NY in 1870. Thanks for the help. Frank Jurenka

Hi all, The Brandenburg apparently arrived Baltimore 1910 11 19, having left Bremerhaven 1910 11 02. My uncle, Abram BERCOVICH (aka Abraham; aka BERCOVITCH, BERKOVITCH; BERKOVICZ, etc.) apparently arrived on that ship -- so says a 1917 Canada->U.S. Border Crossing manifest. I am trying to find the detail on his arrival. He was, I believe, just passing through on his way back to Canada, so likely would be classed as a "Non-immigrant alien". Unfortunately, it appears that the "Big 'A'" only shows the last page (p. 159) of the manifest. Neither Ancestry's own nor Steve Morse's search pages turn him up, suggesting that the first 158 pages of the manifest are "missing". I believe Morse's "Missing Manifests" utility only works with Ellis Island arrivals. Does anyone have any ideas on how to find my uncle? :-) Many thanks in advance for any help! Searchingly, Shel Bercovich, Calgary, AB, Canada

On 23 Sep 2008 at 20:43, Hilda Girl wrote: > Hi. > Is there anywhere I can find passenger list of people going > from USA to Jamaica . It would be between 1840 and 1850. The > name is george edwards aged in his 30's, son Alexander, and > maybe an Elizabeth Edwards . Any help would be appreciated, > i have looked through various sites and they have plenty of > ships going jamaica to USA but not the other way. Thanks USA did not keep its outbound lists so finding any is very challenging. You will have to check to see if Jamaica has inbound lists. You can also check the project OUTBOUND PASSENGER LISTS at http://thegenealogyspot.com/ShipsLists-Online/index.shtml This project is an ongoing one and is entirely free for all. New ships added are also easy to get to by going to the What's New in June page on Olive Tree Genealogy at http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/free0608.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected]

Hi listers, In todays paper, is an article about a vessel that Hurricane IKE uncovered. Near Fort Morgan,Ala, a hull of a vessel has been cleared of sand by 2 hurricanes, one was Camille and now IKE, have uncovered a hull that is 136.9 foot long, and 25 foot wide, and is showing about 2 foot of the remaining hull line. this vessel has steel cables that would point to the ship, Schooner RACHEL , built a Moss Point Harbor, Miss, in 1919 and wrecked near Fort Morgan, Ala. in 1933. According to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Also the Museum of Mobile marine archaeologist, feel this vessel may also be the hulk of the MONTICELLO, which ran aground in 1862, after sailing from Havana, according to Naval records. The search now, centers on finding the ships bell, for a name that should be inscribed upon it. This area was involved during the Civil War. Fort Morgan was used by the Confederate soldiers as Union forces attacked in 1864, during the Battle of Mobil Bay. It has the ap tag line so sure hope they print out the findings.... ~Linda~ Friends are stitched together by patches of memories.

If you go to http://www.midshipcentury.com/ you will see a series of photos of the cruiseship Norway/Blue Lady, formerly the giant French transatlantic line 'France' being dismantled at Alang in India. She looks tiny now but if you scroll down you'll see her in her original glory. She was the longest cruiseship until the Queen Mary 2. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 254 shipbreakers, are a team of "strippers" who take any ship down to the ground for scrap metal dealers.

Hello All, Was wondering if anyone would be able to help me find the departure of my Aunty. Nora G B Corrigan and her husband Lorne R Corrigan left Calgary Canada with there baby daughter Grace Alice Corrigan between 1920 and 1922. Baby Grace was born in Calgary in April of 1920. They had a son who was born in New Zealand in Oct 1923 so left sometime between 1920/23. My Cousin Grace is now 88yrs old and would love to know any information. She does not know what the ships name was and would love to be able to locate all this info. I would appreciate anyones help in this. Kind Regards Karen

shipbreakers, are a team of "strippers" who take any ship down to the ground for scrap metal dealers. ~Linda~ Friends are stitched together by patches of memories.

Hi Karen, Are there New Zealand passenger lists available for that period? If so, are they indexed? That might be your best bet, because North America did not retain (archive) outbound lists. From Calgary, the shortest route would be by train to Vancouver, British Columbia, then embark at that port for the transpacific voyage. Of course they could have taken the train in the opposite direction and first sailed to England, however I checked on "find my past" and found no Corrigan sailing from England for New Zealand 1920-1923. I can give you some names of ships which sailed _from_ New Zealand for Vancouver during part of that period. eg. this shows all the way-ports and length of passage. MAKURA Sydney, N.S.W. Australia 1921-09-08 / Auckland, New Zealand 1921-09-13 / Suva, Fiji 1921-09-17 / Honolulu 1921-09-24 Vancouver, B.C. 1921-10-01 (CAU) Canadian-Australian Royal Mail Steam Ship Co. Master: R. Crawford From 1919 until 1924 Canada used a different manifest form (30A) so I have fewer ship details for that period. 1920 ... MAKURA ; NIAGARA 1921... MAKURA (there could have been more) In 1919 I see, in addition to MAKURA and NIAGARA, the TAINUI and LAHAINA (sailing vessel). In 1925 NIAGARA, TAINUI and HAURAKI. I hope this helps a bit Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 11:46 PM 2008-09-19 +1200, Karen & Peter wrote: >Hello All, > >Was wondering if anyone would be able to help me find the departure of my >Aunty. > >Nora G B Corrigan and her husband Lorne R Corrigan left Calgary Canada >with there baby daughter Grace Alice Corrigan between 1920 and 1922. Baby >Grace was born in Calgary in April of 1920. They had a son who was born >in New Zealand in Oct 1923 so left sometime between 1920/23. > >My Cousin Grace is now 88yrs old and would love to know any >information. She does not know what the ships name was and would love to >be able to locate all this info. > >I would appreciate anyones help in this. > >Kind Regards > >Karen

Edna, She arrived at Alang, India on 4th July 2008 and was beached on 5th July. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Ted Finch" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MAR] Another 'oldie' goes to the breakers > > Ted, You say "goes to the breakers" -- what year would that be? > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted Finch" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:12 AM > Subject: [MAR] Another 'oldie' goes to the breakers > > > The Canadian Pacific liner EMPRESS OF BRITAIN, built in 1956 has gone to > shipbreakers at Alang. She was sold to Greek Line in 1964 and renamed > QUEEN > ANNA MARIA and used mainly for cruising. 1975 sold to Carnival Cruise > Lines, > Panama renamed CARNIVALE. 1993 sold renamed FIESTAMARINA, 1994 renamed > OLYMPIC, 1998 renamed THE TOPAZ. > > Ted > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1677 - Release Date: 17/09/2008 17:07

Hi all-- Hope someone can help me...I finally have my grandfather's naturalization papers which list him as immigrating to the USA from Bremen, Germany on or about Mar 16th, 1902 to the port of New York on or about Mar 23rd, 1902 on the vessel Kaiser Wilhelm. I have been unable to find anything on that voyage from either direction. I'd greatly appreciate any info or tips. Thanks for your time, Gloria

The Canadian Pacific liner EMPRESS OF BRITAIN, built in 1956 has gone to shipbreakers at Alang. She was sold to Greek Line in 1964 and renamed QUEEN ANNA MARIA and used mainly for cruising. 1975 sold to Carnival Cruise Lines, Panama renamed CARNIVALE. 1993 sold renamed FIESTAMARINA, 1994 renamed OLYMPIC, 1998 renamed THE TOPAZ. Ted

Hi Sharon, The FABIAN was a 2,248 gross ton cargo steamer, built 1881 by Mordaunt & Co, Southampton for Frederick Leyland & Co's Mediterranean service. 1901 sold to John Ellerman as part of Ellerman & Papayanni Line which also traded to the Mediterranean 20th Sep.1917 torpedoed and sunk by UB.50 off Cape Spartal near Tangier. Crew lists for 1884-5 are available from http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/searchcombinedcrews.php Enter 84156 in the Official Number box. There is an explanation on the site of how to apply for lists. Part of the duties of seamen was painting so he was probably an able seaman or ordinary seaman. regards Ted . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Laban" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: [TSL] Voyage of SS Fabian: Dec 17th 1884 - Feb 13th 1885 fromLiverpool to the Mediterranean > > Dear All > > I'd be very grateful of your help in solving a family mystery. We have > a diary of the above voyage but would like to find out who wrote it. > > Our mystery author seems to have been a painter on the above voyage > which left Liverpool on Dec 17th 1884 - he lists the names of the > Captain and crew but there didn't seem to be many passengers as it > seemed to be carrying cargo, but did pick up 2 or 3 consul passengers en > route back to Liverpool. > > The Crew are listed in the diary as being: > > Captain: Capt. Hamblin of Wavertree > 1st Officer: Mr S V Richardson of Walton > 2nd Officer: Mr Sullivan > 3rd Officer: Mr Holtum > Steward: Mr G F Kent > Chief Eng: Mr Keir > 2nd Eng: Mr Stewart > 3rd Eng: Mr Boyd > > He must have been employed as a Painter as he mentions painting inside > cabins, or skylights or wires several times. > > Can anyone shed light on where I could possibly find his name, please? > > Looking forward to replies in grateful anticipation! > > With many thanks, > Sharon > > Sharon Laban > Wales > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal > views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1674 - Release Date: 16/09/2008 08:15

If I am reading the certificate of arrival correctly, the ship name was the SS Nicolaos Zafarikas. It arrived in Norfolk on Sept 1, 1920 from Marseille. After searching on ancestry.com and other online resources, nothing even close to this showed up. It was a Greek ship, for what thats worth. Would the passenger manifest for this be available anywhere? Any tips in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. thank you, Debbie _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx