I have been trying to find the ship my late father and his sister came on from Liverpool to Halifax. This message tells all I know and I hope someone can help me. The 2 passengers are David Swales and Esther Swales. They were children. "I asked Mother if she remembered the name of the boat they came out on. She thinks it was called the Scotian (possibly might have been the Nova Scotian) it sailed from Liverpool Dock in March 1919- there were very few civilians on board - it had 2000 Canadian troops being sent home from the first world war. Mother said when her and David weren't sea sick they would march around on deck behind the soldiers - who were singing songs like Its a Long way to Tipperary - it was the first time they had heard any of those songs--They landed in Halifax and then went by train to Montreal." Than You. Catherine [email protected]

Hi all, The Brandenburg apparently arrived Baltimore 1910 11 19, having left Bremerhaven 1910 11 02. My uncle, Abram BERCOVICH (aka Abraham; aka BERCOVITCH, BERKOVITCH; BERKOVICZ, etc.) apparently arrived on that ship -- so says a 1917 Canada->U.S. Border Crossing manifest. I am trying to find the detail on his manifest entry. He was, I believe, just passing through on his way back to Canada, so likely would be classed as a "Non-immigrant alien". Unfortunately, it appears that the "Big 'A'" only shows one page (p. 159) of the manifest. Neither Ancestry's own nor Steve Morse's search pages turn him up, suggesting that the first 158 pages of the manifest are "missing". I believe Morse's "Missing Manifests" utility only works with Ellis Island arrivals. Does anyone have any ideas on how to find my uncle's listing on the manifest? :-) Many thanks in advance for any help! Searchingly, Shel Bercovich, Calgary, AB, Canada

Can someone do a look up for me? The passenger in question was a Gusti PICKHOLZ, born about 1908 in Poland. She arrived in St John's Canada on Dec. 12, 1920 from Antwerp, Belgian. I am interested in whatever info may be on the passenger manifest, especially WHO she may have been traveling with. Thank you for your help. Steve Pickholtz New Jersey

How do you find on what ship someone arrived on to the USA when you don't know when they sailed? My grandfather, Lawrence William Doyle, came over in 1866, probaably in March. I think he came with his brother, Joseph Paul and his wife Catherine. He was from Ireland, Dublin is all I ever heard. I think he landed inNew York, but I do not know. He was 26 years of age. Help! Gerry [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Ships manifests > [email protected] wrote: >> I found my g-grandfather listed on a microfilm for 1868 >> which landed in New Orleans. >> I seem to recall that there are possibly two different sets of >> microfilms for ship's manifests or the same manifests with differing >> numbers. > > Gary, > There is a set of films that index the passenger lists and a set of > films for the passenger lists themselves. Is that what you were > thinking about with respect to the "two different sets of microfilms"? > Does the St. Louis library have both sets of films? You might want to > check the index to see if he was found by the set of eyes who did that > work. > > Good luck! > Kathy > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Duggan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: [TSL] Immigration from West Indies to Victoria, Australia in 1850's >> > > > I have checked the Australian Immigration Records between 1852 and > 1923 and > no listings for these people, that is easily identified. I did > locate one > entry in 1854 for Mr. G. Brown 42 years, Mrs. G. Brown 40 years and > five > children ranging from 17 to 4 years of age. The ship was the > Ritterkerk. I > have no further info. Hi Jim Suggest you try subscribing and reposting this on the mailing list [email protected] Geelong Library has alot of info plus films of early newspapers . Even if you find a surviving passenger list it would give you little info .............possibly just Mr & Mrs BROWN and a number of kids . The world had gold fever back in 1852/3 so record keeping was the least of its worries . There is a large book to be found in some libraries "Shipping Arrivals and departures VIC ports' for the early 1850's that might help . Should give you an arrival date and its always worth checking the 3 volumes of ' The Log of Logs ' books The Melbourne Argus newspaper will be available to search eventually in http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au:80/ndp/del/titles Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

You can Google the Elissa in Galveston, Texas and learn a lot, see pictures of the ship, from that time period. The Elissa was restored and is in Galveston, lots of information on their website. She did survive Hurricane Ike, just fine. Also, look up The Eagle, the U.S. Coast Guard barque. I got to see that ship come into Galveston back in the early 70s, and got to go onboard when she docked there. I kept thinking, I wonder if this is like what my great-grandparents saw when they came to Galveston from Prussia! These are barques, so that might help to get some ideas of what those ships look like. The Eagle does go to gatherings of The Tall Ships. And The Elissa has tours and does go out to sea still. So, if you ever get the opportunity...... Cecelia in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Burgwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [TSL] Drawing / Sketch of Ship Would there be drawings of ships that sailed in 1830? If so, I am searching for a drawing of the Bark Burlington that sailed from Liverpool to New York in July 1830. Thanks for any guidance ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim, Just a comment on the vessel you mention. The spelling was RIDDERKERK rather than RITTERKERK. I checked the unassisted index and found that the ship arrived at Melbourne In Feb. 1854 with Captain T.C. Nolte and only nine passengers. I was puzzled that it had sailed from a (B) British port, so I checked the Sydney shipping Gazette to see what it said . . . not too much unfortunately, RIDDERKERK arrived February 22nd 1854, from London. It is conceivable that they travelled back to England before embarking for Australia. With so few passengers they would likely be "cabin" passengers, which explains the lack of detail regarding names. They do look rather compelling for your family. The Sydney Shipping Gazette, March 6th 1854 issue reported only the arrival date and port of departure, so I suggest you might want to check a Melbourne newspaper to see if they reported the arrival more fully. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ >At 09:49 PM 2008-09-23 +1000, you wrote: >Dear List, > >Hoping someone can help. I'm trying to locate any ships that would transport >immigrants between the West Indies and Victoria between 1848 and 1860, more >likely after 1850. The family was George Brown, born c1809 Scotland and his >wife Catherine Hortense Amelia Grano, born about 1811 Dominica, W.I. They >had at least four children: Henriette/Harriet b. abt. 1842, William b. abt. >1845, Warren George b. abt. 1846 and George Brown b. abt. 1848. They were >all born in Dominica and were living in Geelong, Victoria, Australia area >in late 1860's. George Brown (father) was a clerk. > >I have checked the Australian Immigration Records between 1852 and 1923 and >no listings for these people, that is easily identified. I did locate one >entry in 1854 for Mr. G. Brown 42 years, Mrs. G. Brown 40 years and five >children ranging from 17 to 4 years of age. The ship was the Ritterkerk. I >have no further info. Any suggestions or ideas would be grateful. > >Many thanks. > >Jim > >Tasmania

Hello Maxine, Probably one of the ships of the Hamburg South America Line. Fleet list with dates at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/hamburgsouth.html regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Lundman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:43 AM Subject: [TSL] GERMAN RUSSIANS TO SOUTH AMERICA > > Hi everyone, Does anyone know what ships sailed from Hamburg to Brazil in > 1930? My husband's gr. grandparents and several of their children sailed > from Hamburg to Brazil but I can't seem to find them. They are german > russians. The gr. grandparents were Sebastien and Anna Marie Kasper., born > 1875 and 1872 respectively. Children: FREDERICK - B. 1896, ZACHARIUS -B > 1898, JOSEPH-B 1902, IGNAZ -B 1908. They would have sailed in Mar or April > I think. Thanks, Maxine > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.2/1689 - Release Date: 24/09/2008 18:51

Hi Connie I am not sure if the passenger films would be available in Sydney but perhaps the Mitchell Library may have them. Failing that you can order copies of entries from QLD state Archives http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/immigration.asp At the top right and side are the instructions for ordering. Scroll down and you will see the alpha listing where you can get the exact reference. Regards Lyn In Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Connie Williams Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 8:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TSL] Immigration records from Hamburg 1878 SHIP THE CHARLES DICKENS Hello I was wondering where to look for information regarding my GGG grandfathers immigration records from Hamburg. his name is Elias Niels Michael Jorgensen he arrived in Rockhampton Australia on the 25th of February 1879. the Charles dickens departed the 8th of September 1878 from Hamburg. the information I have is that Elias was baptised on 22/03/1857 Rarup kirke bjerre herred Denmark. I am trying to find information about him listed on his immigration papers. thankyou Connie Sydney AUSTRALIA ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I was wondering where to look for information regarding my GGG grandfathers immigration records from Hamburg. his name is Elias Niels Michael Jorgensen he arrived in Rockhampton Australia on the 25th of February 1879. the Charles dickens departed the 8th of September 1878 from Hamburg. the information I have is that Elias was baptised on 22/03/1857 Rarup kirke bjerre herred Denmark. I am trying to find information about him listed on his immigration papers. thankyou Connie Sydney AUSTRALIA

Hi Cindy, I can't help you with a picture, but I just did a Google search and found this page. The "Bark Burlington" is mentioned, and the page has other information which might be of interest to other researchers: http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ImmNat/Pass/Laffin.imm.html And, I think it is mentioned on this site: http://www.boneyardart.com/sss/trottjames.html (There was a TROTT (2 men?) on the mailboat my ancestor, Calvin KIDDER, was on in Feb. 1799 when it sank - killing all 5 men aboard. The mailboat was in the what is now the St. Croix River as it was heading into St. Andrew's Bay.) (Maine / New Brunswick border area) The "Bark Burlington" is mentioned in this on-line book: http://books.google.com/books?id=-cAPAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=%22Bark+Burlington%22&source=web&ots=r0QabkkZUQ&sig=tS86cB5gb9Kmp558gF2cw3_Kn40&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Burgwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: [TSL] Drawing / Sketch of Ship Would there be drawings of ships that sailed in 1830? If so, I am searching for a drawing of the Bark Burlington that sailed from Liverpool to New York in July 1830. Thanks for any guidance

I read this on another list and thought I'd pass this along to those who are researching in Cook County, Illinois. ____________________________________ For those of you who haven't heard yet, thanks to Dorothy Brown of the Cook County Circuit Court and a number of dedicated workers and volunteers, the Declarations of Intention (to become a citizen) Indexes are now online for the Circuit Court (only). The Declarations for Superior Court will be entered next and then uploaded. But that's for a future date. The range of dates for the Circuit Court files begins with 1906 and ends with the latest dates entered (1922/23). The ending date will be 1929. This has been an ongoing project for a couple of years now, so it may be some time before all Declarations are uploaded (both Circuit Court and Superior Court). The neatest thing about the file is that you can sort by surname, occupation, address...all sorts of ways to find a missing relative in case the surname is not recorded as currently spelled. To find the site, you can put Cook County Circuit Court in your browser and when you see Dorothy Brown's site, scroll down til you see the banner announcing the site. Or you can use..... http://198.173.15.34/NR/ **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Hi everyone, Does anyone know what ships sailed from Hamburg to Brazil in 1930? My husband's gr. grandparents and several of their children sailed from Hamburg to Brazil but I can't seem to find them. They are german russians. The gr. grandparents were Sebastien and Anna Marie Kasper., born 1875 and 1872 respectively. Children: FREDERICK - B. 1896, ZACHARIUS -B 1898, JOSEPH-B 1902, IGNAZ -B 1908. They would have sailed in Mar or April I think. Thanks, Maxine

I am wondering if anyone might have information on a vessel called the EAST INDIAN, which was reported in London papers in 1821 as bound for Australia (but never made it). The master was a Captain Wishart. The vessel was 200 tons with thanks Jenny Fawcett

Would there be drawings of ships that sailed in 1830?   If so, I am searching for a drawing of the Bark Burlington that sailed from Liverpool to New York in July 1830.   Thanks for any guidance

Hi Shel, The Border record dated March 24th 1917, for his March 15th crossing, was :: St. Albans District manifest records of aliens arriving from foreign contiguous territory :: which shows Abram crossing from his father in Alberta INTO the US, going to Valdosta GA to his sister Rosie Ruben. He was not going back into Canada. I see where he states that he'd first arrived in the US Nov 1910 at Baltimore from Bremen (normal POA for that vessel), however, the November BRANDENBURG sailing was from Bremen to Philadelphia. As he indicates that he was only in the US before during the month of November 1910, then seems he was destined to Canada right after his 1910 arrival. Reel # Ship Name Shipping Line T-4690 BRANDENBURG (NGL) North German Lloyd's / Norddeutscher Lloyd, Breman, Germany Departure Information Arrival Information Bremen, Germany 1910-11-03 Philadelphia, PA 1910-11-17 This microfilm record of Canada destined passengers is now scanned and online here ... http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html ...however, the one page manifest shows only one listed on the page as a BRANDENBURG passenger and it isn't him. He must have _landed_ in the US and migrated to Canada .. maybe on the 30th Nov. as he states on the border record. The Philadelpia manifest in 58 pages long, but a passenger search (on Steve Morse search form) doesn't show anyone of that name on the Brandenburg although he might be hiding in plain sight. Maybe he misremembered the name of the ship he arrived on . . it may have been for another family member ? Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 07:50 AM 2008-09-24 -0700, Scanner wrote: >Hi all, > >The Brandenburg apparently arrived Baltimore 1910 11 19, having left >Bremerhaven 1910 11 02. > >My uncle, Abram BERCOVICH (aka Abraham; aka BERCOVITCH, BERKOVITCH; >BERKOVICZ, etc.) apparently arrived on that ship -- so says a 1917 >Canada->U.S. Border Crossing manifest. I am trying to find the detail on >his manifest entry. He was, I believe, just passing through on his way >back to Canada, so likely would be classed as a "Non-immigrant alien". > >Unfortunately, it appears that the "Big 'A'" only shows one page (p. 159) >of the manifest. Neither Ancestry's own nor Steve Morse's search pages >turn him up, suggesting that the first 158 pages of the manifest are >"missing". I believe Morse's "Missing Manifests" utility only works with >Ellis Island arrivals. > >Does anyone have any ideas on how to find my uncle's listing on the >manifest? :-) > >Many thanks in advance for any help! > >Searchingly, > >Shel Bercovich, >Calgary, AB, Canada

Hi Cindy, There is a photo of the ship in the book DFDS by S. Thorsoe, ISBN 87-9800-30-03 which should be available on inter library loan. DRONNING LOVISA 531 gross tons, iron hulled passenger ship with accommodation for 70-1st, 12-2nd and 148-deck passengers.Built 1861 as DROTTNING LOVISA by Motala Warf, Norrkoping for Kongliga Generalpoststyrelsen, Stockholm and used on the Stockholm - Stettin service. 1867 taken over by Skargardsartilleriets Station, Stockholm renamed ACTIV. 1871 sold to Motala Mekaniska Verkstad, Norkopping reverted to DROTTNING LOVISA and fitted with new engine. 1878 owned by Motala Mekaniska Verkstads A/B, Stockholm. May 1881 sold to DFDS, Copenhagen and renamed DRONNING LOVISA and used mainly on Copenhagen - Stettin - Christiania service. 1886 service now mainly Stettin - Copenhagen - Gothenburg. 1900 sold to Blom & Olsen, Frederiksvaern renamed GLADYS, 1901 sold to Rinaldo Riperto, Genoa renamed MARIA STEFANIA. 31st Oct.1902 caught fire on voyage Naples - Genoa, towed to Porto Ferrario but sank in the roads. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] the ship "dronning lovisa" > > Hi Cindy, > > I am responding to your email via the list. We don't have ship > description > and voyage history for every ship in our Fleets ... as people ask about > individual ships, if a description and history is available, we add that > to > the website. Listers can probably come up with the description &c. but I > don't know whether they will be able to come up with a picture. > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > At 04:47 PM 2008-09-23 -0500, [email protected] wrote: >>hi sue, i finally found some information about the 'dronning lovisa' ship >>that sailed from gothenburg to copenhagen in april 1886. it came from >>"the ships list" website: >> >>Dronning Lovisa built - 1861 >>notes: ex- Drottning Lovisa, 1881 purchased from Sweden, and renamed >>Dronning Lovisa, 1900 sold, renamed Gladys. >>531 tons >> >>when i clicked on the ship descriptions, the dronning lovisa, nor >>drottning lovisa, nor gladys appears anywhere in the descriptions. i'm >>having a hard time locating any info other than the sentence above. >> >>i've also tried searching by fleet name. this tells more about the >>company than the ship. >> >>The Fleets >> >>DFDS - Det forenede Dampskibs-Selskab A/S / (The United Steamship Company) >> >>Formed in Copenhagen in 1866 by the merger of several small Danish >>companies as Det forenede Dampskibs-Selskab A/S (The United Steamship >>Co.), the company became an important feeder service for emigrants >>travelling via the UK. Numerous Scandinavian companies were taken over, >>but one important company was the Thingvalla Line in 1898 which was >>reformed as the Scandinavia-America Line. In 1903, French and Russian >>subsidiary companies were formed and ships transferred to them. DFDS still >>operates passenger services between the Baltic and Norway, Faroe Islands, >>Iceland and the UK and freight routes to North and South America and the >>Mediterranean. >> >>what i'm trying to find is a picture of the ship. any suggestions? >> >>thank you. >> >>cindy hall >>[email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 22/09/2008 16:08

Hi all, The Brandenburg apparently arrived Baltimore 1910 11 19, having left Bremerhaven 1910 11 02. My uncle, Abram BERCOVICH (aka Abraham; aka BERCOVITCH, BERKOVITCH; BERKOVICZ, etc.) apparently arrived on that ship -- so says a 1917 Canada->U.S. Border Crossing manifest. I am trying to find the detail on his manifest entry. He was, I believe, just passing through on his way back to Canada, so likely would be classed as a "Non-immigrant alien". Unfortunately, it appears that the "Big 'A'" only shows one page (p. 159) of the manifest. Neither Ancestry's own nor Steve Morse's search pages turn him up, suggesting that the first 158 pages of the manifest are "missing". I believe Morse's "Missing Manifests" utility only works with Ellis Island arrivals. Does anyone have any ideas on how to find my uncle's listing on the manifest? :-) Many thanks in advance for any help! Searchingly, Shel Bercovich, Calgary, AB, Canada

Hi does anyone know where I can find information about the Charles dickens that arrived in Rockhampton in 1879 from Hamburg. I am researching information regarding my GGG grandfather Elias neils Michael Jorgensen who sailed to Australia aboard this ship. thanks for your time connie

Dear Jim Where did he die? The death registration often has how long in the colony which would give a better idea of the year they arrived. Could he have been in the British Army and therefore come with a regiment and then perhaps stayed? Newspapers usually record arrival of ships and may mention passengers as well - you could check for the Ritterkerk. Log of Logs Vols 1-3 might have useful information about the Ritterkerk - most libraries have a copy but not always all the volumes. The actual passenger list might also have more details. Where did you locate the entry you have? Regards Lyn in Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Duggan Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TSL] Immigration from West Indies to Victoria, Australia in 1850's Dear List, Hoping someone can help. I'm trying to locate any ships that would transport immigrants between the West Indies and Victoria between 1848 and 1860, more likely after 1850. The family was George Brown, born c1809 Scotland and his wife Catherine Hortense Amelia Grano, born about 1811 Dominica, W.I. They had at least four children: Henriette/Harriet b. abt. 1842, William b. abt. 1845, Warren George b. abt. 1846 and George Brown b. abt. 1848. They were all born in Dominica and were living in Geelong, Victoria, Australia area in late 1860's. George Brown (father) was a clerk. I have checked the Australian Immigration Records between 1852 and 1923 and no listings for these people, that is easily identified. I did locate one entry in 1854 for Mr. G. Brown 42 years, Mrs. G. Brown 40 years and five children ranging from 17 to 4 years of age. The ship was the Ritterkerk. I have no further info. Any suggestions or ideas would be grateful. Many thanks. Jim Tasmania ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message