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    1. Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 271
    2. Marj Kohli
    3. Linda The NY Times of Dec 7, 1862 lists a steamer Monticello off Little Run, S.C. on Tuesday, Nov. 18. There is a long account of her destroying two schooners. On Dec 10, 1862 the Monticello is listed as a steam gunboat "waiting repairs" in the navy yard. On Jan 21, 1862 the NY Times reported on the vessels in the Mississippi area (Ship Island) and the Rachel Semmes/Seaman was one of them. On Nov 9, 1862 the Times reported "Operations In The Gulf. The Capture of Sabine Pass." and the Rachel Semmes was the flag-ship with Acting-Master Sloopper. This is a long account of the action. On March 22, 1863 there is an account of "The Blockade of Mobile. Affairs at Pensacola." the Rachel Semmes (spelled Seaman in this case) is still operating in the gulf. She is listed in Farraguts Fleet on Aug 12, 1863 with 2 guns 303 tons. On Nov 18, 1863 she was in the naval yards in NY being "fitted out". She was still around in 1864. Regards.. Marj At 12:10 PM 10/9/2008, Linda Mock wrote: >Hi Lister's, > On 20, Sept,2008. I posted a tad about a ship having been partically >uncovered by IKE, in Fort Morgan, ALA. Between Hurricanes >Camille<1969>, and Ike<2008>, these storms uncovered a 1862 , 2 masted >Civil War relic thought to be either the ship "MONTICELLO", or the >"RACHEL". >I would be interested to know the rest of the story if anyone has >news....If anyone who lives close could check the story out, I'd love >that.... > > ~Linda~ >Garden of Weedin'...Free weeds, you pick! > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/09/2008 07:50:06
    1. Re: [TSL] The ship "Oxford"
    2. Peter Monks
    3. Greetings, I have one entry in the 'Greyhounds Of The Sea', the story of the American clipper ship, by Carl H. Cutler. Ship, Measurements and Master: OXFORD (listed in the idex as packet ship.) John Rathbone. 752.47 x 147.6 x 33.6 x 21.6 Place and date of construction: Wenn & Allen, New York, 1836 Owner: Chas. H. Marshall, Jonathon Goodhue, Pelatiah Perit, et al, New York That is all that is listed. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: [TSL] The ship "Oxford" > About 4-years ago, I stopped searching for a ship "Oxford" (in > frustration) as very little information had been found for the era of > 1852-1854. I now believe that at least three ships carried the > "Oxford" name. One was built in 1836 and sailed, generally between > Liverpool and New York, under the flag of the Black Ball Line, (until > 1850) where all records stopped (see "Magellan", by Cimorelli). She > was described as a packet-ship in the book, "Square Riggers on > Schedule" (Albion), and in other references. A second "Oxford" sailed > to Australia. A third "Oxford" was built at Freeport, Maine by Rufus > Soule (about 1851); her ports-of-call are not known. There may be > others with the same name. > > My primary interest is the period about 1853, and whether any ship > named "Oxford" sailed, with passengers, between the UK and the USA. I > am not sure if that ship's name is correct, as it was found only from > the memories of one person. Specifically, I am looking for passenger > lists for 1852-1854 that might show a family of two adults and four > children, probably traveling from Liverpool to New York, including > John O'Brien (father), Mary Bolger/Bulger O'Brien (mother) and > Thomas, Anastasia, Patrick and Margaret (the latter born about 1850) > as their children. All originated from Kilkenny, Ireland. I do have > valid copies of the children's baptismal certificates, but very > little about their parents. > > Family stories say the family left Ireland (about 1852/1853), lived > at New York for a year (1853?), and then migrated to Iowa, traveling > "up the Mississippi on a barge" (from New Orleans, St. Louis or > wherever??). Iowa's census of 1856 shows that they had lived at > Waukon for two-years. > > I have no idea as to how or when the traveled from Ireland to New > York, and then on to Iowa. > > Please note that I have made previous inquiries, through the TSL, > with no real success. This inquiry is being made to determine if any > up-dated information might now be available. As stated in the many > other requests for help from the TSL, any help would be appreciated. > > "Thanks" ... Pat > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 08/10/2008 > 7:01 AM > >

    10/09/2008 04:27:40
    1. Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 271
    2. Linda Mock
    3. Hi Lister's, On 20, Sept,2008. I posted a tad about a ship having been partically uncovered by IKE, in Fort Morgan, ALA. Between Hurricanes Camille<1969>, and Ike<2008>, these storms uncovered a 1862 , 2 masted Civil War relic thought to be either the ship "MONTICELLO", or the "RACHEL". I would be interested to know the rest of the story if anyone has news....If anyone who lives close could check the story out, I'd love that.... ~Linda~ Garden of Weedin'...Free weeds, you pick!

    10/09/2008 03:10:44
    1. [TSL] Suevic 1913
    2. Jenny T
    3. Thanks to everyone for the many suggestions and photos regarding my request to find out more information regarding The Suevic and her 1913 trip to Australia Jenny in Oz

    10/08/2008 09:55:20
    1. [TSL] The ship "Oxford"
    2. About 4-years ago, I stopped searching for a ship "Oxford" (in frustration) as very little information had been found for the era of 1852-1854. I now believe that at least three ships carried the "Oxford" name. One was built in 1836 and sailed, generally between Liverpool and New York, under the flag of the Black Ball Line, (until 1850) where all records stopped (see "Magellan", by Cimorelli). She was described as a packet-ship in the book, "Square Riggers on Schedule" (Albion), and in other references. A second "Oxford" sailed to Australia. A third "Oxford" was built at Freeport, Maine by Rufus Soule (about 1851); her ports-of-call are not known. There may be others with the same name. My primary interest is the period about 1853, and whether any ship named "Oxford" sailed, with passengers, between the UK and the USA. I am not sure if that ship's name is correct, as it was found only from the memories of one person. Specifically, I am looking for passenger lists for 1852-1854 that might show a family of two adults and four children, probably traveling from Liverpool to New York, including John O'Brien (father), Mary Bolger/Bulger O'Brien (mother) and Thomas, Anastasia, Patrick and Margaret (the latter born about 1850) as their children. All originated from Kilkenny, Ireland. I do have valid copies of the children's baptismal certificates, but very little about their parents. Family stories say the family left Ireland (about 1852/1853), lived at New York for a year (1853?), and then migrated to Iowa, traveling "up the Mississippi on a barge" (from New Orleans, St. Louis or wherever??). Iowa's census of 1856 shows that they had lived at Waukon for two-years. I have no idea as to how or when the traveled from Ireland to New York, and then on to Iowa. Please note that I have made previous inquiries, through the TSL, with no real success. This inquiry is being made to determine if any up-dated information might now be available. As stated in the many other requests for help from the TSL, any help would be appreciated. "Thanks" ... Pat

    10/08/2008 09:44:48
    1. Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913
    2. Marj Kohli
    3. Jenny From the London Times shipping news are these details (note ship sailed on Saturday so first mention is in Monday's paper): Oct 27, 1913: Suevic, from Liverpool, passed Skerries 9.56 a.m. Sunday for Cape Town and Australian ports. Nov 4, 1913: Suevic passed Teneriffe 6 p.m. Saturday from Liverpool for Cape Town and Australian ports. Nov 19, 1913: Suevic, for Australian ports, left Table Bay Monday. Dec 9, 1913: Suevic, Liverpool for Sydney, arrived Adelaide yesterday. Dec 12, 1913: Suevic from Liverpool, arrived Melbourne 5 a.m. yesterday. Dec 17, 1913: Suevic, from Liverpool, arrived Sydney Monday. Regards.. Marj At 10:20 PM 10/3/2008, Jenny T wrote: >Hello List > >I am hoping that someone can direct me to where I can find >the arrival of the steamship The Suevic, White Star Line in >Sydney Australia 1913. > >The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool >England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can >see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister >Lily WATERWORTH are listed as 3rd class passengers. >Having found them leaving from Liverpool I would love to find them >arriving in Sydney Australia. > >Many thanks >Jenny > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/07/2008 06:49:01
    1. Re: [TSL] Death at Sea
    2. Richard Collinson
    3. I think that would be RMS = Royal Mail Ship - she carried mail! All the best Richard R. J. B. Collinson United Kingdom www.family-trees.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Mock Sent: 06 October 2008 17:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] Death at Sea Hi Listers, I have in my possession, a framed docutment of burial at Sea, from the CUNARD ship lines, dated 1909. Its a map of the Atlantc Ocean ( in balck and white ) has lines of Latitude,Longitude, and distance traved in miles, weather conditions. It marks quite clearly the committed site. Top of the map is this: R.M.S. <ROYAL MAGISTRY SHIP>" CAMPANIA" ...New York to Liverpool. Sailed 10, February 1901. J. T. W. CHARLES,R.N.R., Commander. This is a 4 year old boy by the name John "Jackie" Henry BOUDIER, d: 14, February 1909 @ sea. ~Linda~ Garden of Weedin'...Free weeds, you pick! ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/06/2008 11:20:59
    1. Re: [TSL] Ship "Miracle"- 1847
    2. Sue Swiggum
    3. Hi Rik, The vessel is named at least 4 times on TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/NewOrleansShips1847b.htm (to New Orleans in January) http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsmay1847.html (sailed from Liverpool April 9th) http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847.html (wrecked) http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.html (condition of the passengers) Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 11:15 AM 2008-10-06 -0300, Rik Clark wrote: >Good day, > >Looking for any info on the "Miracle". Her last voyage was from Liverpool >bound for Quebec City. She went aground at East Point, Magdalen Islands 19 >May 1847. The ships master was H.H. Elliot. > >Thank you.

    10/06/2008 07:36:53
    1. [TSL] Ship "Miracle"- 1847
    2. Rik Clark
    3. Good day, Looking for any info on the "Miracle". Her last voyage was from Liverpool bound for Quebec City. She went aground at East Point, Magdalen Islands 19 May 1847. The ships master was H.H. Elliot. Thank you.

    10/06/2008 05:15:00
    1. [TSL] LOUISA
    2. Ray Rob
    3. Can any reader refer me to any information on the ship LOUISA ? There is a possibility that my Great Grandfather , from Denmark , reached Sydney , Australia , aboard this ship. Whether this ship sailed from European ports , bound for Australia , I have yet to discover... Incidentally , what would be the port of embarkation for a Danish emmigrant , I wonder ? The years of interest to me are between 1840 and 1866. My Great Grandfather was not a convict , but would a 'convict' ship also carry assisted immigrants ? RayRob _________________________________________________________________

    10/06/2008 03:40:48
    1. Re: [TSL] LOUISA-
    2. MargM
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Rob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: [TSL] LOUISA > Hi RayRob > Can any reader refer me to any information on the ship LOUISA ? > Only that it was an extremely popular ships name . Were well over 120 ships either named Louisa or with Louisa in the name that docked in Port of Sydney 1837 - 1926 > There is a possibility that my Great Grandfather , from Denmark , > reached Sydney , Australia , aboard this ship. > Whether this ship sailed from European ports , bound for Australia , > I have yet to discover... > Incidentally , what would be the port of embarkation for a Danish > emigrant , I wonder ? As a guess, Hamburg ? > > The years of interest to me are between 1840 and 1866. > > My Great Grandfather was not a convict , Nor aware of any Danish convicts and the last convict transport to Sydney arrived in 1840 > but would a 'convict' ship also carry assisted immigrants ? No and just about all of the assisted migrants in the 1800's were from from the UK What was this fellows name ? Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

    10/06/2008 03:40:00
    1. Re: [TSL] Death at Sea
    2. Linda Mock
    3. Hi Listers, I have in my possession, a framed docutment of burial at Sea, from the CUNARD ship lines, dated 1909. Its a map of the Atlantc Ocean ( in balck and white ) has lines of Latitude,Longitude, and distance traved in miles, weather conditions. It marks quite clearly the committed site. Top of the map is this: R.M.S. <ROYAL MAGISTRY SHIP>" CAMPANIA" ...New York to Liverpool. Sailed 10, February 1901. J. T. W. CHARLES,R.N.R., Commander. This is a 4 year old boy by the name John "Jackie" Henry BOUDIER, d: 14, February 1909 @ sea. ~Linda~ Garden of Weedin'...Free weeds, you pick!

    10/06/2008 03:02:04
    1. [TSL] THE AUGUSTA
    2. Kim Barlow
    3. Would anyone have any idea of this ship, it sailed to Nova Scotia in 1817 and did so more than one time from Scotland, I woiuld appreciate anyone's help. Thank you Kim

    10/05/2008 01:24:14
    1. [TSL] Death at sea
    2. Sandy Oddie
    3. I am fairly new on this list and have a general question.  If someone was traveling to America from Europe in 1906, and died at sea, where would the death cert be issued at and how would one obtain a copy of such? Thank you,   ~ Sandy/IL

    10/05/2008 05:11:29
    1. Re: [TSL] Findmypast
    2. MargM
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin's wool" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913 > On 4/10/08 06:00, "Jenny T" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool >> England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can >> see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister.... I would >> love to > find them arriving in Sydney Australia. > >> >> >> Margaret answered: >> <Hi Jenny >> You will find this in http://www.findmypast.com/migration.jsp Hi Jenny >> I have had a look on findmypast and can see that I have >> to pay a huge subscription to view this one off research. Subscriptions start from 6.95 GBS ,which is about A$17 > Not sure about this > > We took a 30 day sub to findmypast to research our folk leaving UK > and found > many dozens more than we anticipated > > BUT these are only departures as reported in BT27 of the National > Archives > Kew > > I have not seen Sydney arrivals on findmypast ... > Maybe you havent actually searched for one ? These records are certainly there . I thinks its wonderful resource to have access to particularly since it went from very few records indexed to the complete opposite in what seemed a fairly short time > Have I missed something? Guess you must have :-) bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

    10/05/2008 04:28:48
    1. Re: [TSL] Findmypast
    2. Lyn
    3. As an aside, I searched the National Archives of Australia site. Often there is later immigration stuff there. Found this in a records search. Printed copy of Minutes of Evidence taken at Hobart on Wednesday 31 August 1927 and annotated by witness Edith Alice Waterworth Would this be your Edith? Regards Lyn In Brisbane Oz. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MargM Sent: Sunday, 5 October 2008 9:29 AM To: Robin's wool; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] Findmypast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin's wool" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913 > On 4/10/08 06:00, "Jenny T" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool >> England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can >> see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister.... I would >> love to > find them arriving in Sydney Australia. > >> >> >> Margaret answered: >> <Hi Jenny >> You will find this in http://www.findmypast.com/migration.jsp Hi Jenny >> I have had a look on findmypast and can see that I have >> to pay a huge subscription to view this one off research. Subscriptions start from 6.95 GBS ,which is about A$17 > Not sure about this > > We took a 30 day sub to findmypast to research our folk leaving UK > and found > many dozens more than we anticipated > > BUT these are only departures as reported in BT27 of the National > Archives > Kew > > I have not seen Sydney arrivals on findmypast ... > Maybe you havent actually searched for one ? These records are certainly there . I thinks its wonderful resource to have access to particularly since it went from very few records indexed to the complete opposite in what seemed a fairly short time > Have I missed something? Guess you must have :-) bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/05/2008 03:54:06
    1. Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 265
    2. Jack
    3. Hello Sue I have a GGGMother (Mary Ann Morter) who was with her family in the 1851 census (Norfolk) and had her children re-baptized, December 1851, in a small church in Ohio, USA. Rumor has it she came to Canada first and migrated south to the USA. I don't know what ship or date they left England, but would be very interested in what sailing arrangements you discover. Thank you Regards Jack Morter USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 12:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 265 Today's Topics: 1. Emigrants for Canada 1851 (Sue Swiggum) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:16:28 -0300 From: Sue Swiggum <[email protected]> Subject: [TSL] Emigrants for Canada 1851 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed After I posted the "Emigrants waiting to sail 1851" yesterday, I was reminded about some other Emigrants I had found in the 1851 England census a couple of years ago, but had totally forgotten ! These 103 persons were Army Pensioners and their families living at the Tilbury Fort in Essex on census night (March 30th) and the notation for them was :: Emigrants waiting for embarkation for Canada :: so at least we know where they were going. What makes this find particularly special is because it helps fill another gap in the pre-archiving of passenger lists to Canada (1865). Because they were living at Tilbury Fort, they most likely embarked at London, but I haven't been able to learn which vessel .. yet .. it might have even been a Navy Transport ship. When Marj returns from holiday, she may hopefully be able to find mention of their sailing in the London Times. I included an example of one of the children who I found as a 60 yr old living at Barrie, Simcoe North, Ontario. They look like a veritable United Nations, even within some of the families, with children born all over UK and Ireland as well as other parts of the world. I will include the link in the *new* for October page when I upload it, but thought you might like to have a look now :-} Emigrants for Canada 1851 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/tilbury1851.htm Please share this email with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 265 ********************************************

    10/04/2008 03:20:17
    1. Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913
    2. MargM
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913 > > I am hoping that someone can direct me to where I can find > the arrival of the steamship The Suevic, White Star Line in > Sydney Australia 1913. > > The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool > England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can > see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister > Lily WATERWORTH are listed as 3rd class passengers. > Having found them leaving from Liverpool I would love to find them > arriving in Sydney Australia. Hi Jenny You will find this in http://www.findmypast.com/migration.jsp Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

    10/04/2008 06:50:34
    1. Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913
    2. Robin's wool
    3. On 4/10/08 06:00, "Jenny T" <[email protected]> wrote: > The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool > England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can > see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister.... I would love to find them arriving in Sydney Australia. > > > > Margaret answered: > <Hi Jenny > You will find this in http://www.findmypast.com/migration.jsp > Bye > Margaret> > > I have had a look on findmypast and can see that I have > to pay a huge subscription to view this one off research. Not sure about this We took a 30 day sub to findmypast to research our folk leaving UK and found many dozens more than we anticipated BUT these are only departures as reported in BT27 of the National Archives Kew I have not seen Sydney arrivals on findmypast ... Have I missed something? Robin

    10/04/2008 02:16:03
    1. Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913
    2. Jenny T
    3. Hello Margaret and List I wrote: < I am hoping that someone can direct me to where I can find the arrival of the steamship The Suevic, White Star Line in Sydney Australia 1913. The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister Lily WATERWORTH are listed as 3rd class passengers. Having found them leaving from Liverpool I would love to find them arriving in Sydney Australia. > Margaret answered: <Hi Jenny You will find this in http://www.findmypast.com/migration.jsp Bye Margaret> I have had a look on findmypast and can see that I have to pay a huge subscription to view this one off research. Is there SKS out there that would do a look up and email me the document. I hope I am not being presumptuous Yours in hope Jenny -----Original Message----- From: "MargM" [[email protected]] Date: 04/10/2008 12:50 PM To: [email protected], "Jenny T" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: [TSL] Suevic Passengers Disembarking Aust 1913 > > I am hoping that someone can direct me to where I can find > the arrival of the steamship The Suevic, White Star Line in > Sydney Australia 1913. > > The voyage that I am interested in is the one that left Liverpool > England 25 Oct 1913. I have the Embarkation List and I can > see that my grandmother Edith WATERWORTH and her sister > Lily WATERWORTH are listed as 3rd class passengers. > Having found them leaving from Liverpool I would love to find them > arriving in Sydney Australia. Hi Jenny You will find this in http://www.findmypast.com/migration.jsp Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

    10/03/2008 07:00:12