Sally The London Times of Feb 27, 1875 reported the loss of a passenger steamer -- in part: "The Hong Kong, steamer, from London to Japan, struck on a sunken rock off Abdel Kuri and foundered....In the list of passengers furnished to us by the owners occurs the name of Mrs. Jane Walton, with her children, Alfred, Esther, jane, Thomas, and Nellie, and according to the brokers, this lady was going out to join her husband at Yokohama...." The ship was owned by Messrs. Watts, Milburn, and Co., of 85, Gracechurch-street, London. The loss was twelve drowned, including Jane Walton and her five children. Regards.. Marj At 10:14 AM 10/17/2008, Sally Haden wrote: >Hi folks > >I am new to the list and hope that someone will be able to help me >find out more about the fate of a vessel somewhere in the Far East in >1875. > >On 22nd February 1875 an English woman and her five young children >drowned at sea somewhere en route to Japan. Her name was Jane >WALTON. She was to join her husband Thomas in Japan, who was there >on contract in a British-Japanese project to build Japan's first >industrial glass factory. I am writing a book about the project >because my great grandfather was there too. > >This was not emigration. > >Jane and her children were on board the "Hong Kong" (registration >number 65570). I have read an anecdote related many years later by a >friend of Thomas Walton which said that the ship was in a monsoon at >the time of the drowning. I don't know if the ship was lost, or just >some of the passengers. > >As the glass factory project was probably financed by the big >merchant company Jardine Matheson & Co. it is quite possible that the >ship was owned by Jardine Matheson & Co. > >I don't know where the ship was registered and I don't know where to >look. The ship might have departed from Britain, or it might have >been a smaller more local vessel which ran between, say Hong Kong, >Nagasaki and Shanghai. Jardines had big interests in all those places. > >All I have is the GRO "deaths at sea" record which, as I understand >it, is the record made by the GRO when they received the information >from the Register General of Shipping and Seamen (RGSS). It says the >registration was received 24th June 1875, which is four months after >the event. > >I have not yet found any newspaper reports, but haven't searched very >thoroughally yet. > >I would really appreciate any advice about this! > >Cheers! > >Sally >in England > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "chrissy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: [TSL] 31 July 1841 Hi Chrissy > My problem is that I have read a chapter relating to the Mcgraths of > Moruya > in the pioeer book.... > It has John McGrath arriving 31st July 1841 > I can only find 2 ships Comet and Lowestoft The ship named 'Comet' did arrive in the port of Sydney 31 Jul 1841carrying mostly Irish bounty migrants > and he is not onboard Thats correct > it actually reads as if he is onboard the *St Vincent* > > but i know that this actually refers to the region that he wa > xtravelling to > Braidwood etc Thats the county name Not familiar with this book . Is it fairly recent publication ? Can you locate its author ? Have you tried posting this query on either the AUS-NSW mailing list or AUS-NSW-SE ??? Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Listers I am hoping that someone can advise me My problem is that I have read a chapter relating to the Mcgraths of Moruya in the pioeer book.... It has John McGrath arriving 31st July 1841 I can only find 2 ships Comet and Lowestoft and he is not onboard it actually reads as if he is onboard the *St Vincent* but i know that this actually refers to the region that he wa xtravelling to Braidwood etc any help would be appreciated

The Missing Friends Project on OliveTreeGenealogy.com is extracting the names of those who immigrated from UK to America or Canada and who were inquired about by family in various 19th Century newspapers. This project can be freely searched at http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/MissingFriends/ Missing Friends Project starts with Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper, published in London England and their weekly column (1886-1900) called "Long Lost Relatives". The fields being extracted are name of person in America or Canada who is missing, where they lived in the UK, when they left, where they intended going, ship name if known, when they were last heard from, where they were living when last heard from, who is seeking them and any miscellaneous comments. If you have ancestors who settled in America or Canada from the mid 1800s to 1900 you may want to have a look http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/MissingFriends/ Enjoy! Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected]

hi john her adelaide can any one tell me if there were a passage liist rfom south hampton in 1968 to adelaide of the [fair sky] citmar line thanks in ant john

Hello folks. I'm new here. My great grandfather, Archibald McLees, was brought to North America by his parents in 1818. I have learned things of the McLees after that point, but I'd like to know more of my heritage from Ireland. Is there any chance a ship list might still exist from 1818? What I know is that the elder McLees left for (I believe) New Brunswick on June 21, 1818. Some months later, after settling in Montreal, he was followed by Mrs. McLees and infant Archibald. They later moved to New York City. The McLees had lived in Antrim in a small village of around ten homes. This village was supposedly within a mile of Giant's Causeway. I am unsure of the first names of Archibald's parents. Mr. McLees set up shop in NYC as a blacksmith. I presume that was his trade when he left Ireland. This is all I know. In addition to finding names on ships' lists, I would like to learn as much as possible about the family in Ireland. Can you advise how I might go about doing that? Many thanks. Mike Lempert

Hi Trevena There is a copy of the passenger list at the PRO Victoria. http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide02 3.jsp If you live in Victoria you can arrange to view the list yourself. Otherwise they should be able to provide a copy of the entry. Regards Lyn In Oz. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trevena Whitbread Sent: Monday, 13 October 2008 7:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] Duchess of Northumberland Hi Everyone, I forgot to say in my original message that the year I am looking for is 1841 3 June, when the Duchess of Northumberland came into Port Philip. Mary Fish I believe to have been aboard it, thanks Trevena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <[email protected]> To: "Trevena Whitbread" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Duchess of Northumberland > > Hi Trevena, > > I happen to be working on the Duchess of Northumberland from > Southampton to Adelaide in 1856 right now, but I don't see a Mary Fish > on board, so you must be talking about a different voyage. > > I suggest you post your query to the list again, but this time include > which year (even approx.), to which port or State. > > Good luck, > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > At 08:45 PM 2008-10-12 +0100, Trevena Whitbread wrote: >>I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I might find a >>passengers list for this ship the "Duchess of Northumberland" as I >>believe my gr gr gr grandmother came to Australia on it and would like >>to check, Mary Fish. Thank you Trevena > > > ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all you lovely people who replied, I now have a scan of the passenger list that shows my Mary Fish, well I think it is her, thanks again Trevena from England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevena Whitbread" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Duchess of Northumberland > > Hi Everyone, I forgot to say in my original message that the year I am > looking for is 1841 3 June, when the Duchess of Northumberland came into > Port Philip. Mary Fish I believe to have been aboard it, thanks Trevena > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Swiggum" <[email protected]> > To: "Trevena Whitbread" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: [TSL] Duchess of Northumberland > > >> >> Hi Trevena, >> >> I happen to be working on the Duchess of Northumberland from Southampton >> to Adelaide in 1856 right now, but I don't see a Mary Fish on board, so >> you must be talking about a different voyage. >> >> I suggest you post your query to the list again, but this time include >> which year (even approx.), to which port or State. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Sue >> -- >> TheShipsList Website >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ >> >> At 08:45 PM 2008-10-12 +0100, Trevena Whitbread wrote: >>>I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I might find a passengers >>>list for this ship the "Duchess of Northumberland" as I believe my gr gr >>>gr grandmother came to Australia on it and would like to check, Mary >>>Fish. Thank you Trevena >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Everyone, I forgot to say in my original message that the year I am looking for is 1841 3 June, when the Duchess of Northumberland came into Port Philip. Mary Fish I believe to have been aboard it, thanks Trevena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <[email protected]> To: "Trevena Whitbread" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Duchess of Northumberland > > Hi Trevena, > > I happen to be working on the Duchess of Northumberland from Southampton > to Adelaide in 1856 right now, but I don't see a Mary Fish on board, so > you must be talking about a different voyage. > > I suggest you post your query to the list again, but this time include > which year (even approx.), to which port or State. > > Good luck, > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > At 08:45 PM 2008-10-12 +0100, Trevena Whitbread wrote: >>I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I might find a passengers >>list for this ship the "Duchess of Northumberland" as I believe my gr gr >>gr grandmother came to Australia on it and would like to check, Mary >>Fish. Thank you Trevena > > >

I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I might find a passengers list for this ship the "Duchess of Northumberland" as I believe my gr gr gr grandmother came to Australia on it and would like to check, Mary Fish. Thank you Trevena

Hi Trevena, I happen to be working on the Duchess of Northumberland from Southampton to Adelaide in 1856 right now, but I don't see a Mary Fish on board, so you must be talking about a different voyage. I suggest you post your query to the list again, but this time include which year (even approx.), to which port or State. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 08:45 PM 2008-10-12 +0100, Trevena Whitbread wrote: >I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I might find a passengers >list for this ship the "Duchess of Northumberland" as I believe my gr gr >gr grandmother came to Australia on it and would like to check, Mary >Fish. Thank you Trevena

How do I find info on the ship Patrick Henry? My great grandfather, Daniel Morrissey, arrived in New York aboard it on July 29, 1851. I found this info on Ancestry New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957. However; when I try to find it on your Ships List, he does not appear. My grandfather, Lawrence Doyle, came over in 1866 and I have not been able to find him on anylist. Both of these men came over from Ireland. Gerry, [email protected]

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for October 2008 is . . . o Fleets: o Westfal-Larsen & Co. A/S, Bergen, Norway 1905-2005 A Norwegian Fleet of 163 ships ... Fleet number 330 o Arrivals: o Ships to Quebec 1830 (in progress) The third page of 1830 arrivals is now complete and once again some more great newsy bits. eg. the "Death of George the Fourth and Accession of William the Fourth." and the July Revolution in France as well as discussion about two specific groups of emigrants .. those aboard the JANE from Belfast who suffered a drowning accident in Quebec while transferring to a steamboat and about the 280 aboard the TWO BROTHERS from Dublin, (who were from Kildare) and were mislead about monies being available to them upon landing, so were totally destitute in a new land. 1830 is turning out to have been a huge emigration year. Up to mid August, there were 22,500 and they still kept coming. To the same period in 1829 there had been about 11,500. o Passengers: o Emigrants for Canada, 1851 These 103 persons were Army Pensioners and their families living at the Tilbury Fort in Essex on census night (March 30th) and the notation for them was :: Emigrants waiting for embarkation for Canada :: so I hope we are able to learn which ship. What makes this find particularly special is because it helps fill another gap in the pre-archiving of passenger lists to Canada (1865). o ship Lord Raglan, from Plymouth to Port Adelaide 7th February 1856 o ship Navarino, from Southampton to Port Adelaide 21st February 1856 Two more ships with assisted passengers to South Australia for 1856. The LORD RAGLAN had ten deaths from fever. The Surgeon superintendent Robert Pridie became seriously ill too and may have died (but I'm not sure of that), so Dr. Drummond asked the Surgeon superintendent of the AUSTRALIA (arrived 22nd Jan), Dr. Henry Thomas Parke, to care for the sick . . he also died from fever. The emigrants were from all over UK and Ireland. The NAVARINO had a better voyage with only two deaths (dates unclear). They too came from all over rather than a particular area. Most of the singles were either with parents or other family. If anyone is able to furnish corrections or additions (like maiden names) to any of the South Australia Lists, please write to Robert or myself. Also if you know that any family or individual did leave for Victoria after arrival at South Australia then we'd like to know that too, so it can be added as a note to the list. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy ! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Today in history, 1982, the English ship, "MARY ROSE", which sank during an engagement with France in 1545, was raised in Portsmouth, England. thought this might be interest to someone. ~Linda~ Garden of Weedin'...Free weeds, you pick!

Would anyone know if there is a list of ships that sailed out of Southampton harbor in 1926? If so, where would I find it? Is there a Port Authority for Southampton that maintains these things as there is in some other places? Thanks for the help. Barbara in NY **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin's wool" <[email protected]> To: "ShipsList" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:51 AM Subject: [TSL] Request for research help in London > Thanks to list members we are making great progress in our research. > > > We are researching my wife's HIRD family and found two seagoing > brothers. > Alexander Forbes HIRD and Findlay Fraser HIRD Both got there > master's > certificates in Dundee in 1899. > Have t this only recently from the Guildhall in London. I have the > Guildhall references and their certificate numbers. > > > Can someone suggest London based researchers who visit the Guildhall > and NMM > Greenwich archives who would obtain copies of the Lloyds Captains > Register > entries and captains/masters certificates? > > Hi Robin Try http://www.raogk.org/england2.htm bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

You really do need to use the correct address, which is given at the bottom of every message posted to the lists. Notice that the word request is in there. And you might need to do them individually. Just click on the link and a message should open already addressed - you just need to put unsubscribe in the subject line and again in the body. Marie

Thanks to list members we are making great progress in our research. We are researching my wife's HIRD family and found two seagoing brothers. Alexander Forbes HIRD and Findlay Fraser HIRD Both got there master's certificates in Dundee in 1899. Have t this only recently from the Guildhall in London. I have the Guildhall references and their certificate numbers. Can someone suggest London based researchers who visit the Guildhall and NMM Greenwich archives who would obtain copies of the Lloyds Captains Register entries and captains/masters certificates? Regards Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

Came across this in the Bristol Mercury 21 May 1853 Issue 3296 Deaths Nov 7, on his passage to Melbourne, in the ship "Try" deeply lamented, aged 21 years, William Davis, only son of Captain W. PHILLIPS of Shirehampton. It is unlikely the actual passenger list will have his father's name on it so I thought this information might be useful to someone sometime. regards Lyn in Oz.

You need to follow the directions at the bottom of the message. Note the correct address. Marie