Marg Should have been Marriage records not birth!!! Marj At 07:52 PM 10/27/2008, MargM wrote: >Have been trying to find on the name of the ship Bernard Alfred & >Cecily (Cicely) PERKS travelled on > >They married in London early 1920 . The date of 17 August 1920 has >survived in family info BUT not whether that was a departure date from >London or arrival in Sydney ?? > >Bernard b 1895, Cecily 1899. Have tried every which way via Findmypast >with no success > > >Have trawled through the ships arriving to port of Sydney index for >17 Aug 1920 and this is inconclusive as dont know the ports of >departure . A possible could be the SS Buninyong ??? > >Help would be appreciated > > Many thanks > > Bye > >MargM >Beautiful NSW Central Coast >NSW >Australia > > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marg There is a marriage in the English birth records for a Bernard A. Perks to a Lawrence in the District of Pancras 1b 247 Mar 1920. Her entry is Cicely E. Lawrence to a Perks Pancras 1b 247 Mar 1920. Regards Marj At 07:52 PM 10/27/2008, MargM wrote: >Have been trying to find on the name of the ship Bernard Alfred & >Cecily (Cicely) PERKS travelled on > >They married in London early 1920 . The date of 17 August 1920 has >survived in family info BUT not whether that was a departure date from >London or arrival in Sydney ?? > >Bernard b 1895, Cecily 1899. Have tried every which way via Findmypast >with no success > > >Have trawled through the ships arriving to port of Sydney index for >17 Aug 1920 and this is inconclusive as dont know the ports of >departure . A possible could be the SS Buninyong ??? > >Help would be appreciated > > Many thanks > > Bye > >MargM >Beautiful NSW Central Coast >NSW >Australia > > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob The London Times reported on Monday, Jan 19, 1852 in the "America" column: "Arrived at New Orleans.--Houghton, Clara, Lymes, Jane, Iowa, Queen, Retan, Annidas, Living Age, Mobile, Herald, Caroline, Tesmith, and Loodiana, from Liverpool;" I cannot seem to find her sailing. Regards.. Marj At 11:48 AM 10/27/2008, Bob wrote: >Hello, > I am looking for any information for a ship and it's passengers > sailing from Liverpool, England arriving at the port of New > Orleans Dec, 25 1851. >The few pieces of information I have show the ships name as "Queen" >with it's master being someone known as McCartney. >It had a passenger list of approx 435, four of which died during the voyage. >I have ran across a ship named "Queen" in my searches showing it >was built in 1865 so doubtfully this is the correct one. >This is the ship my G,G,G, grandparents boarded when they emigrated >from Ireland to the United States So any information or guidance is >greatly appreciated. > >Thanks >Bob > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have been trying to find on the name of the ship Bernard Alfred & Cecily (Cicely) PERKS travelled on They married in London early 1920 . The date of 17 August 1920 has survived in family info BUT not whether that was a departure date from London or arrival in Sydney ?? Bernard b 1895, Cecily 1899. Have tried every which way via Findmypast with no success Have trawled through the ships arriving to port of Sydney index for 17 Aug 1920 and this is inconclusive as dont know the ports of departure . A possible could be the SS Buninyong ??? Help would be appreciated Many thanks Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

Jean, There is a photo of the QUEENSBURY at: http://www.shawsavillships.co.uk/queensbury.htm Ron Mapplebeck (UK) **** [email protected] wrote: > Good evening, Can you please tell me where I can find any information > on the ss Queensbury history and sailings from May 1954 to March 16th > 1956. My Husband Kenneth Collins was Chief Electrician on this ship > and I would like pictures and history of it for my grandchildren as I > have his other ships, but cannot find anything on this one. Thanking > you, Have a nice evening. Jean Collins > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi folks, A couple of days ago I replied (I thought to the list) on the subject as above, and have just discovered it went instead to a lister, off list. So here it is for the list... It was in response to the information given by [email protected], a few days ago, in reference to the Incoming UK Ships Passenger lists and the info on http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/ >> I was most interested to explore this possibility, because I am >> trying to trace the return to England from Japan a man named James >> SPEED in about 1885, or somewhere between 1883 up to possibly >> about 1887. I have no idea of the name of the ship or its port of >> destination, I only know his name and age and the certain fact of >> his return. >> >> After finding 'him' on a free search, I upgraded my subscription >> to Ancestry, only to find it wasn't him. I don't mind the expense >> of my upgrade actually, because it will mean I can look for >> various 'global' events now. But I have a question please. >> >> Do these lists include all passengers who came into the UK during >> the period 1878-1960? I know that James Speed definitely came >> back into the UK some time after 1883, but he may have been on a >> cargo ship. I know that many passengers travelled from UK to the >> Far East in cargo ships in Victorian times, when they would number >> a dozen or less. In fact that was possibly normal for some >> decades? Are the lists now available as "UK incoming ships >> passenger lists, 1878-1960" limited to passenger ships? > > For the record, since trying to post this I have found out that Ancestry do say that the earlier records are a bit thin on the ground.... > >> The passenger lists date from 1878 to 1888 and 1890 to 1960. >> However, many of the pre-1890 lists were irregularly destroyed by >> the Board of Trade in 1900. Therefore, there are not many lists >> included in this database that date from these earlier years. >> Should I therefore give up? I think it is likely that SPEED was one of a handful of passengers on a cargo ship, and is most unlikely to have been crew because he was a glassworks manager working for the Japanese government. Pete on this list has suggested he may have changed ships somewhere, which would account for his not showing up as coming from Japan, but as I recall my search, there were no other SPEED who were possible. Many thanks for any thoughts. Sally in Yorkshire, UK

Passage fares in 1940 for an adult and child -- is there information concerning costs for various modes of travel from low to upper class? Elaine

John, Post stuff like this to the list , along with where you found it, rather than just to me. If you do that it will provide answers to future visitors to the archives too. I'm guessing the Miramar Ship Index http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 11:41 AM 2008-10-27 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Single Ship Report for "1072406" > > > >IDNo: ><http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/list?search_op=OR&IDNo=1072406>1072406 >Year: 1876 >Name: HESTIA Launch Date: 29.2.76 >Type: Cargo ship Date of completion: >Flag: GBR Keel: > >---------- >Tons: 200 Link: ><http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/shipyard/list?link=1590>1590 >DWT: 0 Yard No: >Length overall: Ship Design: >LPP: Country of build: GBR >Beam: Builder: Murray, H. >Material of build: I Location of yard: Port Glasgow >Number of >screws/Mchy/ >Speed(kn): > > > > > > >---------- >Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no >registration required and great graphics –

Hello, Can anyone tell me where I can look online for ships passengers who left Ireland, bound for England or Scotland between approximately 1780 to 1850 ?   Thank you. June

Hello Listers, In 'Deaths at sea', I have found an entry that really interests me - Folio 2730 (Mrs) - ORR. Drowned 29.3.85 "Hestia" 72406. I've been unable to find a "Hestia" that would coincide with this date. I would like to know where the ship was heading, if the ship went down - or if poor Mrs Orr was the only one to meet her death. Would it be possible to obtain a death certificate? It's quite possible that she was my G G Grandmother. I would appreciate some help with this as it's the first Death at sea I've come across & I've no idea how to proceed! Best wishes, Christine

Hi Christine, I probably shouldn't even be answering this one (Ted will likely tell me <grin>), but I'm assuming that 72406 was the Official Number of the vessel. I went to Mariners website to look for it, but that number was missing http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/IBON-INDEX.html 72405 REGARD 1876 Greenock 130 72407 DIANA 1876 Greenock 27 The numbers on either side indicate a Greenock Registry for rather small ships ... would that fit? The only HESTIA on TheShipList website even close, was the Donaldson Line one which wrecked on Manan Island, Bay of Fundy, in 1909 with the loss of 35 lives. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/donaldson.html Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 01:12 PM 2008-10-27 +0000, Christine Miller wrote: >Hello Listers, > >In 'Deaths at sea', I have found an entry that really interests me - > >Folio 2730 (Mrs) - ORR. Drowned 29.3.85 "Hestia" 72406. > >I've been unable to find a "Hestia" that would coincide with this date. I >would like to know where the ship was heading, if the ship went down - or >if poor Mrs Orr was the only one to meet her death. >Would it be possible to obtain a death certificate? >It's quite possible that she was my G G Grandmother. > I would appreciate some help with this as it's the first Death at sea > I've come across & I've no idea how to proceed! > >Best wishes, >Christine

Hello June, I'm afraid you are out of luck for an 18th or 19th century passenger record between Ireland and England or Scotland. England and Ireland were one country and there were no restrictions on travel so no passenger lists were archived. Read Debbie Beavis' article about British Records http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/ukrecords.html See under the heading of "Lists Not Available:" for full details. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ t 01:39 PM 2008-10-27 +0000, june wayland wrote: >Hello, Can anyone tell me where I can look online for ships passengers who >left Ireland, bound for England or Scotland between approximately 1780 to >1850 ? Thank you. June

Hello, I am looking for any information for a ship and it's passengers sailing from Liverpool, England arriving at the port of New Orleans Dec, 25 1851. The few pieces of information I have show the ships name as "Queen" with it's master being someone known as McCartney. It had a passenger list of approx 435, four of which died during the voyage. I have ran across a ship named "Queen" in my searches showing it was built in 1865 so doubtfully this is the correct one. This is the ship my G,G,G, grandparents boarded when they emigrated from Ireland to the United States So any information or guidance is greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob

ss QUEENSBURY (blt 1953) was owned by Alexander Shipping Ltd and operated from 1953 – 1971 by Capper, Alexander Ltd. At some stage Houlder's took control of Alexander's, and then Furness, Withy took control of Houlder's. Pictures of QUEENSBURY should be in the history of Furness withy by David Burrell, pub by World Ship Society, 1992. A record of her voyages will be obtainable from her "Voyage Record Card" held in the Lloyd's Collection at the Guildhall Library, in London. Bernard de Neumann --- On Sat, 25/10/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: [TSL] ss Queensbury > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, 25 October, 2008, 2:16 PM > Good evening, Can you please tell me where I can find any > information > on the ss Queensbury history and sailings from May 1954 to > March 16th > 1956. My Husband Kenneth Collins was Chief Electrician on > this ship > and I would like pictures and history of it for my > grandchildren as I > have his other ships, but cannot find anything on this one. > Thanking > you, Have a nice evening. Jean Collins > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Pat, This looks like him First Name: Pal Last Name: Szerdinyancz Ethnicity: Hungary Magyar Last Place of Residence: Monostor Date of Arrival: Feb 14, 1905 Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Pannonia Port of Departure: Fiume Manifest Line Number: 0026 He was going to Philadelphia. The PANNONIA sailed from Fiume on the 26th January. In case you are wondering, I used Steve Morse's "Gold Search Form" for Ellis Island. Used the ship name, an arrival year range 1904-1906, sex, his birth year, his ethnicity and last name starts with Sze http://www.stevemorse.org/index.html Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 03:21 PM 2008-10-25 -0700, Pat S wrote: >Looking for Paul Szerdenancz who changed his name to Paul Gombos when >naturalized. Which name did he sail under? Grandpa was born in Hungary >April 28, 1883. He arrived in 1905 on 5he ship Panonia. > >All help will be much appreciated. Thank you. > >Pat S

Just a word of warning, don't trust the transcriptions! For example According to the transcription Delcie Winks arrived in London from Aden on the 19th Sep 1958 on the "Kenya Castle" Checking the image shows she actually arrived at Liverpool from Montreal on the 8th Sep 1958 on the "Empress of England" At least they got her name right :-) It looks as if where papers are stapled together, the Transcribers have used the Top sheet for the index regardless of changes in Dates, Ports or Ships Pete

Looking for Paul Szerdenancz who changed his name to Paul Gombos when naturalized. Which name did he sail under? Grandpa was born in Hungary April 28, 1883. He arrived in 1905 on 5he ship Panonia. All help will be much appreciated. Thank you. Pat S

Good evening, Can you please tell me where I can find any information on the ss Queensbury history and sailings from May 1954 to March 16th 1956. My Husband Kenneth Collins was Chief Electrician on this ship and I would like pictures and history of it for my grandchildren as I have his other ships, but cannot find anything on this one. Thanking you, Have a nice evening. Jean Collins

Hi: No guarantees, but this sounds like one of the Canadian Pacific Steamships (waterborne Canadian Pacific Railway) that sailed regularly between Vancouver, BC, Victoria, BC, and Seattle, Washington. The Kathleen, Marguerite, and Patricia were sister ships designed to carry vehicles and passengers on the "Triangle Route" about the Gulf of Georgia and Puget Sound. The had staterooms because, although the trips were not long, they frequently were scheduled for overnight to arrive at the destination the following morning. They were still in service in the late '40s when I had the pleasure of traveling between Vancouver and Victoria on the Patricia with my parents. They were superseded by more plebeian ferries as the number of vehicles requiring transport grew. Mac Carpenter Victoria, BC > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:07:15 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TSL] Princess Kathleen - Brit Col to Seattle 1936 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Listers, > > I'm new on here and hoping someone may be able to help me. I have just > found a record for: > > > Alfred P Perry on the document: 'List or Manifest of Aliens Employed on the > vessel as members of crew'. > Vessel: Br.str. "Princess Kathleen" arriving at Seattle Washington May 16 > 1936. > He was a Fireman, age 22, English, 6'1" weight 176 and had served 4 years. > Sailed from port of Victoria B.C. (British Columbia I think) > > He crops up on lots of records for the same ship over the 4 years. Joined > up 1/6/1932 age 17 Princess Kathleen. > > My question: How can I find out more about this person? The name is right, > the nationality is right and the birth year is right. I need to know about > where he came from, address or real date of birth. > > There is also an Alfred P Perry on the Legion Magazine for British Columbia > Naval Reserve Volunteers - died in 1991 aged 76 which would more or less be > same birth year. Is this the same man? Can I find out more on the B.C Naval > Reserve Volunteers? > > Many thanks, > > Diana > > Can anyone in Canada help? > > > >