Hi Mike, Is this him? _http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1862/12/078agn.htm_ (http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1862/12/078agn.htm) Regards Diana Re: Has anyone come across a Master Mariner, Adam McDonald born about 1826, around the 1860's? Possibly working out of Sunderland, England. Sorry no idea as to type of ship. Cheers Mike

Greetings, A week you say? Seems reasonable, not desireable perhaps but any 'unfavourable winds' would be a situation where the amount of sail would be gradually/rapidly reduced, anchored, if a safe place was available. Suppose that a sudden 'blow' tore the sails from the yards. Spare sails would have to be got from the storage and mounted, assuming that the yards and masts and its own rigging were sound. Essentially all repairs to the sails and rigging had to be performed on board, depending on the size of the vessel, crew size may be very small around 2 to 30 men, again assuming that the crew are hale and hearty and not nursing broken bones or torn muscles.......... finger nails ripped off was common! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Mitchell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: [TSL] Time taken to leave Liverpool? > Hi List, > > Can anyone give me an idea how long it would take for a sailing ship to > make its way from Liverpool along the Welsh coast? In particular, given > unfavourable winds, could a ship still be off the north coast of Wales a > week after departing Liverpool? > > With thanks, > > Jo Mitchell > Geelong, Australia > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishchurches/ > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1808 - Release Date: 23/11/2008 > 6:59 PM > >

Hi List, I would be interested to find more details of a Capt. Broadley (aka Bradley) who was master of the John Fielden from June 1858 until the ship's disappearance in 1860. With thanks, Jo Mitchell Geelong, Australia http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishchurches/

Hi List, Courtesy of the British Library and Gale site (thanks to Eliz for that link), I have managed to track down more of the movements of the JOHN FIELDEN which carried my CUSACK ancestors to Moreton Bay (Brisbane, QLD) in 1853. I now know that between 1857 and early 1860 the JOHN FIELDEN carried cargo between England and the West Indies and on another occasion, Quebec under the command of a Captain Broadley (aka Bradley). On 13th January 1860 she departed her home port of Liverpool headed for Rio Janeiro. On 1st February, small pieces of wreck and a life buoy with the name JOHN FIELDEN were found on the beach at Voryd near Rhyl on the north east coast of Wales. Then finally, on 9th August, 1860 it was noted in the English papers that the JOHN FIELDEN had not arrived at her destination and had not been seen since leaving Liverpool. >From this it seems possible that the JOHN FIELDEN was wrecked only a short time after leaving port. At this stage I haven't been able to find further newspaper reports, so I am wondering if anyone has any further ideas for determining what might have become of the JOHN FIELDEN. With thanks, Jo Mitchell Geelong, Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Fawcett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: [TSL] The Emily Taylor is now the Emily, Taylor master. > The man I am researching, John Peter Armstrong, arrived in Western > Australia > in 1830 (March) aboard what is recorded in Australian history books > as the > EMILY TAYLOR. (Armstrong was the 2nd officer, and gunner, aboard the > vessel). > > However, from the reports we have been able to locate to date, it > appears > the EMILY TAYLOR is actually the EMILY, and her masters name was > TAYLOR. > > We have two news reports from the Hull papers to confirm the Emily > arrived > at Swan River in March 1830, and that she was driven ashore not > long after > at Fremantle, and sold off in June of 1830. Hi Jenny I wondered if any info in : http://tinyurl.com/5t8tb9 An early WA newspaper from the National Libraries digitised newspapers collection Fingers crossed ! Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

Thank you to all those who have so kindly helped with search on the vessel Emily Taylor. It seems we might be in the process of rewriting Australian history. The man I am researching, John Peter Armstrong, arrived in Western Australia in 1830 (March) aboard what is recorded in Australian history books as the EMILY TAYLOR. (Armstrong was the 2nd officer, and gunner, aboard the vessel). However, from the reports we have been able to locate to date, it appears the EMILY TAYLOR is actually the EMILY, and her masters name was TAYLOR. We have two news reports from the Hull papers to confirm the Emily arrived at Swan River in March 1830, and that she was driven ashore not long after at Fremantle, and sold off in June of 1830. Does anyone have information on a vessel called the EMILY, which would have possibly left England about 1829/very early 1830, whose master was a Mr Taylor. The vessel would have been about 270 - 300 tons with thanks Jenny

Finally, after 20 years trying to determine the ship "my" main man first came to Australia on, I have found it (with the wonderful assistance of the State Archives in WA) Does anyone have information on a vessel called the EMILY TAYLOR, which was wrecked Western Australia 1830 Emily Taylor. Brig, 207 tons. Aground in Cockburn Sound, WA, in a gale, 21 May 1830. Refloated. [LW],[ASW1 - 300 tons, ashore last week of May or early June] last known to be in India. I am truly desperate to track down the vessel's history, and the crew list. My man onboard was John Peter Armstrong, and he was mate with thanks Jenny F

Have you tried the free access Gale newspaper database? http://access.gale.com/newstrial/ password is british you can limit by date really well as well by limiting by port <G> you can try them in rotation. Eliz On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Joan Fawcett <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you to all those who have so kindly helped with search on the vessel > Emily Taylor. > > It seems we might be in the process of rewriting Australian history. > > The man I am researching, John Peter Armstrong, arrived in Western Australia > in 1830 (March) aboard what is recorded in Australian history books as the > EMILY TAYLOR. (Armstrong was the 2nd officer, and gunner, aboard the > vessel). > > However, from the reports we have been able to locate to date, it appears > the EMILY TAYLOR is actually the EMILY, and her masters name was TAYLOR. > > We have two news reports from the Hull papers to confirm the Emily arrived > at Swan River in March 1830, and that she was driven ashore not long after > at Fremantle, and sold off in June of 1830. > > Does anyone have information on a vessel called the EMILY, which would have > possibly left England about 1829/very early 1830, whose master was a Mr > Taylor. The vessel would have been about 270 - 300 tons > > with thanks > Jenny > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I know many are saying these viruses do not get past rootsweb but I can tell you I had a very close friend named Patricia so I replied to that message and went to Reunion.com and subscribed BUT I did have the good sense NOT to give my password!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "TheShipsList" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: [TSL] virus is being attached to Patricia added you as a friend on Reunion.com! >I know this thread is to be discontinued, but I wanted the list to be > aware that this subject line is coming in to me directly with a virus. > Fortunately, my ISP blocks those before my inbox, but perhaps not > everyone's does. The message I receive from my ISP is: > > A virus was found in an Email message sent to you. > The virus was reported to be: > Sanesecurity.Malware.9156.UNOFFICIAL > The message sent to you had the following envelope: > MAIL FROM: [email protected] > > Marie > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Denise, If you re-read the description and history of the vessel ... VIRGINIAN / DROTTNINGHOLM / BRASIL / HOMELAND 1905 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsV.html ... you'll see "...On 1/6/1951 she commenced her first voyage from New York to Hamburg, on 16/6/1951 commenced Hamburg - Southampton - Cherbourg - Halifax - New York service and on 1/3/1952 started her last sailing on this route. On 14/3/1952 she commenced a New York - Mediterranean service and on 29/3/1952 commenced sailing between Naples - Genoa - Halifax - New York. She commenced her final voyage on 21/10/1954 when she left Genoa for Naples, Halifax, New York, Naples and Genoa, and in Feb.1955 she was scrapped at Trieste. " Her last sailing from Hamburg via Southampton commenced on the 1st March 1952 You haven't mentioned whether you are looking for a Halifax or New York arrival. The New York arrival lists are available through Ancestry.com but the Halifax arrival extract of passenger landing at that port would only be available through "Access to Information" request (Post -1935) http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.007-e.html If your passenger embarked at Southampton, you can confirm which year, to which port by accessing the FindmyPast website http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action?redef=0 The database is free to search, but it costs to access the original "full" record. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 06:26 PM 2008-11-20 -0500, Denise Reynolds wrote: >Would anyone on the list know how I could get manifests of this ship for >(probably 1953) - leaving South Hampton OR any personal information about >it ? > >Thanks very much > >Denise

Marie, I know you mean well, but it is 100% impossible to receive a virus through RootsWeb email discussion lists. If you google "Sanesecurity.Malware.9156.UNOFFICIAL" it returns 5 pages only out of the billions of possible returns. I think your ISP was aware that Reunion.com was a "Phishing" website .... something I've only learned about Reunion in the last couple of days. I do however know a lot about RootsWeb email discussion lists and their security, and have run this list for ten years. ;-} There was absolutely NO virus attached, rather, your ISP was probably reacting to the "string" in the URL in the email, so please don't be concerned. Sue -- At 03:52 PM 2008-11-20 -0700, [email protected] wrote: >I know this thread is to be discontinued, but I wanted the list to be >aware that this subject line is coming in to me directly with a virus. >Fortunately, my ISP blocks those before my inbox, but perhaps not >everyone's does. The message I receive from my ISP is: > >A virus was found in an Email message sent to you. >The virus was reported to be: >Sanesecurity.Malware.9156.UNOFFICIAL >The message sent to you had the following envelope: >MAIL FROM: [email protected] > >Marie

Would anyone on the list know how I could get manifests of this ship for (probably 1953) - leaving South Hampton OR any personal information about it ? Thanks very much Denise

I know this thread is to be discontinued, but I wanted the list to be aware that this subject line is coming in to me directly with a virus. Fortunately, my ISP blocks those before my inbox, but perhaps not everyone's does. The message I receive from my ISP is: A virus was found in an Email message sent to you. The virus was reported to be: Sanesecurity.Malware.9156.UNOFFICIAL The message sent to you had the following envelope: MAIL FROM: [email protected] Marie

At 07:30 AM 2008-11-20 -0700, Pat Padian wrote: >I am ever so so sorry and apologize to the whole list! I have been trying to >figure out how this could have happen! I did not deliberately give my e-mail >password to any other list! I don't even know how to do that. If you know >how this can happen-please tell me! Do you know what I can do to stop this? >I am clueless! The first time I knew this was happening was from your >messages. I don't even know what the Shiplist Members are receiving in my >name. Please help me! Patricia Padian Hi Patricia and list, It wasn't you. We have several Patricia's on the list. It seems from what other listers have written, personally and to the list, the other Patricia would not have done this intentionally. I was not familiar with Reunion.com, as I automatically delete anything like that. So my advice, which is also echoed by other listers, is to never respond to any emails similar to that of Reunion.com and just hit delete. It is time for the list to drop this thread now and get back to our ships etc. Thanks, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I am ever so so sorry and apologize to the whole list! I have been trying to figure out how this could have happen! I did not deliberately give my e-mail password to any other list! I don't even know how to do that. If you know how this can happen-please tell me! Do you know what I can do to stop this? I am clueless! The first time I knew this was happening was from your messages. I don't even know what the Shiplist Members are receiving in my name. Please help me! Patricia Padian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 308 Today's Topics: 1. Re: THESHIPSLIST Re: Patricia added you as a friend on Reunion.com! ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:56:22 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Re: Patricia added you as a friend on Reunion.com! To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 11/19/2008 4:39:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, John writes: What Patricia did when she registered with Reunion was to give, in addtion to her email address, her password to access her email account. ****************************** And this is why you never enter you password at any website that can tie any email addresses and password you have together to access that particular account, unless it is where you access that particular account. There are many of this type of 'community' get together websites out there that do this.... beware! Anettka **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?red ir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to [email protected]. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 3, Issue 308 ********************************************

In a message dated 11/19/2008 4:39:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, John writes: What Patricia did when she registered with Reunion was to give, in addtion to her email address, her password to access her email account. ****************************** And this is why you never enter you password at any website that can tie any email addresses and password you have together to access that particular account, unless it is where you access that particular account. There are many of this type of 'community' get together websites out there that do this.... beware! Anettka **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

The Gale and British Library are offering a free period, no idea how long it will last but nows the time. I have been hunting the COSMO my ggf arrived in New York City on. and every time there was a list of ships ??entering out <G> and coming in. It is a wonderful chance to hunt for ships. I was limiting by Bristol and Cosmo and need to try Abagun. Anyway enter from http://access.gale.com/newstrial/ the password is british Eliz

Hi Sue and List, My concern is only that everyone should be aware of how some of these social networking sites work. What Patricia did when she registered with Reunion was to give, in addtion to her email address, her password to access her email account. Reunion's software then copied the email addresses in her address book and sent out the email received by the list to them all. If asked for your password to your email account give a false one. Your registration will continue but they will not be able to access your address book. If anyone has already given away their password they should be able to prevent any future access merely by changing it. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <[email protected]> To: "J MOORE" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:06 PM Subject: ADMIN (was) Re: [TSL] Patricia added you as a friend on Reunion.com! | John and list, | | I don't know what on earth Patricia was thinking. The only thing I can | think is that she maybe used her personal address book with the list | address included. | | I have unsubscribed Patricia from this list. | | The list address is only an address which people can send mail TO, not | FROM, so as no-one can confirm _from_ this address to accept the | "invitation," there should be no cause for concern. | | Sue

My sincere apologies both to my fellow subscribers as well as to my fellow List Admin, but my previous response was intended to be private and NOT sent to the list. As a List Admin myself (on other lists, not this one) I clearly knew better, and I should have been more careful in addressing it. Again, my sincere apologies to all concerned, and especially to Patricia. :-( David E. Cann [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:theshipslist-bo[email protected]] On Behalf Of David E. Cann Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:56 PM To: 'Sue Swiggum' Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] ADMIN (was) Re: Patricia added you as a friend onReunion.com! In addition to being a subscriber to TSL, I'm also an active List Admin and <snip>

In addition to being a subscriber to TSL, I'm also an active List Admin and I've see far too many of these on quite a few lists. Just FYI, the subscriber in question need only to sign up with Reunion typically as a social service to contact some friends such as Facebook, YouTube, etc. The difference with Reunion is that in order to join, you must give them access to your computer and address book so they can send out these messages to EVERYONE in it, without regard to whether it is an individual, a mailing list, a business, or whatever. Since they send it FROM YOUR COMPUTER AND ACCOUNT, that means it gets posted to the lists that person subscribes to. "If it looks like a spammer, and it walks like a spammer, and it acts like a spammer, then it must BE a spammer." When I get them on my lists, I immediately REMOVE that subscriber from the list and put them on the ban list, not as punishment but that is the only way of cutting off the access Reunion now has to mail to the list. However, I also write to the subscriber and explain why I did it, and invite them to either resubscribe now using a different account or to wait awhile before resubscribing in the future. Folks subscribe to Reunion without knowing any of this, because they conveniently do not explain that they are going to mass mail to all the lists you subscribe to as if you yourself are doing it, so they have no idea what is happening until it is too late. I wish there was a better way of stopping them from doing it, but that is all we can do as List Admins. :-( Not a great choice, but it does work. David E. Cann [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Swiggum Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:26 AM To: Kim Gawlak Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] ADMIN (was) Re: Patricia added you as a friend on Reunion.com! Thanks Kim, that was the way I took it. Poor Patricia had been on the list since last March, but I didn't want to take any chances. If she subs again, I will explain to her . . although, the messages were sent last night so I didn't seen them until this morning, so she would have seen them on list and John's comment. Reunion.com was something I had always just ignored. I'd never looked into what it was <sigh> My husband's 85+ year old aunt sends me "funnies" which are great, but those "forward" things too, which I NEVER forward either. ;-} Sue