Hello Chris Thank you for all that information. It will take me a little while to sort through and follow up on. I certainly appreciate the time you spent to get this info together. Regards Denise -- [email protected] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own

Hi again, I should have edited the previous message to make it easier to find my response! Here it is again! Cheers Ainslie. <quote> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > built by D & W Henderson Ltd Glasgow, > Yard No 249 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Propulsion: Steam, engines aft > Built: 1882 > Ship Type: Passenger Cargo Vessel > Tonnage: 584 grt > Length: 210.3 feet > Breadth: 28.3 feet > Owner History: > 1881 Spencer's Gulf S.S. Co., Adelaide > 1884 Adelaide S.S. Co. > Status: Wrecked - 24/04/1918 > > Remarks: Wrecked 24/4/1918 at Wardany Island. > > Looks like this is your ship. > <end quote> Hi folks, The location of the wreck site is WARDANG Island off the coast of South Australia. - not "Wardany" suggest this is wrongly recorded from a hand written entry and the 'G' taken to read a 'Y' Ainslie in Adelaide, South Australia. formerly a figurehead carver and restorer. ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris Woods wrote: > Good morning Denise, > > A 'Chief Officer' is a Company (ship owner's) title in the British > marcantile marine (now the Merchant Navy), usually held by the Chief (or > 1st.) Mate, which is the senior post below that of Master and note that > only the rank of Mate and Master are the legal ranks. > > The Chief or 1st Mate is the senior officer on the ship below Master who is > the overall man in charge (commonly known as the Captain), and apart from > navigation and watchkeeping, the 'Mate is responsible for the cargo, > discipline of the crew, maintenance of the fabric of the ship, etc. > > > You need your ship's Official Number for any further documentary research > (see my recent reply to a similar enquiry, by browsing through this site's > archives) > There were several with this name: > > 23229 London 1849 569 tons, sail > 37587 Nova Scotia 25 tons sail - not this one, for sure. > 60885 London 1868 569 tons Sail ? coincidence of tonnage with 23229. > Possibly 23229 had been lost. and this was a rebuild? > > Then there is: > INVESTIGATOR O.N. 79344 Adelaide 1883 345 tons, Steam ! > First registered: Adelaide, on May 26th. 1883, Port number 7/83 > This is the first time the vessel had been registered and given her official > mnumber. If she had sailed previously under another name, she would have > had a different official number and that does not change with a change of > name. This number is carved into her main beam and remains with her for > life. > There are some documents for this vessel at The National Archives for 1883 > under reference BT 00/1398 > and > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=79344&txtrestriction=BT+99&hdnsorttype=Reference&j=1 > > Nothing at Newfoundland. You might try Greenwich for years ending with a 5. > > > Some discrepency on dates for this ship with O.N. 79344: > if she was first registered in Adelaid in May 1883, she would not have > sailed from Glasgow in December 1882, but see below..... > Perhaps your log book will give some indication about this. > Maybe she was an earlier 'INVESTIGATOR' which had a steam engine added > later. > > Was she a survey vessel? > > > The Official Log Book would have been returned to the (British) Registrar > Geneeral of Ships and Seamen. > > Yours is a personal log kept by the Chief Officer, or 1st. Mate, unless > he was serving on a Naval vessel..... of which there were several with this > name: > Paul Benyon's http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/Index.html > > http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/I/02446.html > Investigator, 1848 > Type: Discovery vessel ; > Launched : 1848 02 acquired ; Disposal date or year : 1852 > Disposal Details : Abandoned in the Arctic Ice ; Com. Robt Jno Le Mesurier > McClure > BM: 480 tons > 1848 Search for HMS Erebus and Terror > 1 Jul 1850 Arrived Honolulu > 4 Jul 1850 Sails for the North in search of Sir John Franklin's missing > expedition. > 30 Aug 1851 Arctic Exploration > but note 'disposed of in 1852. Doesn't say whether she was scrapped or > sold. > > > > > Referring back to my previous replies to similar enquiries you will find > the various contacts for Australian shipping records. > Note also that you can check with the Glasgow archvies which shows > unexpectedly, a passenger ship (hence no cargo): > > http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/shipview.asp > > s.s. INVESTIGATOR > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > built by D & W Henderson Ltd Glasgow, > Yard No 249 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Propulsion: Steam, engines aft > Built: 1882 > Ship Type: Passenger Cargo Vessel > Tonnage: 584 grt > Length: 210.3 feet > Breadth: 28.3 feet > Owner History: > 1881 Spencer's Gulf S.S. Co., Adelaide > 1884 Adelaide S.S. Co. > Status: Wrecked - 24/04/1918 > > Remarks: Wrecked 24/4/1918 at Wardany Island. > > Looks like this is your ship. > > Hi folks, The location of the wreck site is WARDANG Island off the coast of South Australia. - not "Wardany" suggest this is wrongly recorded from a hand written entry and the 'G' taken to read a 'Y' Ainslie in Adelaide, South Australia. formerly a figurehead carver and restorer.

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: [TSL] where do I start? >I have a Chief Officer's Log Book for the Investigator which left > Glasgow 15 Dec 1882 and arrived in Port Adelaide 21 Feb 1883. > > Was the position of Chief Officer the same in 1882 as it is today? > As > no mention is given regarding passengers or cargo, how can I find > out > what sort of vessel it was, where it was built and what happened to > it > after its arrival in Australia? > > I am very new to research of this kind and have absolutely no idea > where > to go though I have tried looking up a couple of ships websites to > no > avail. > Hi Denise Since not all info in on the Net it would help if you gave some wee clue as to your location so maybe there is an answer to your " where do to go" question If I were looking for this info I would go down to the NSW State Library, Sydney, and look up film of the Adelaide Advertiser newspaper for a few days around the date of 20 Feb 1883 I dont know if http://143.216.32.39/archivessrsa/t1tbmain.asp would help . I typed in ' Investigator ' and nothing came up As an aside this name ' Investigator' was used before for the much earlier ship that Mathew FLINDERS used to circumnavigate this huge island he named Australia Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia

Image sent off list Eliz On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jack, found this on Germans to America. > > [Broderbund Family Archive #273, Ed. 1, Passenger Lists: New York, Internal > Ref. #1.273.1.17381.12] > > Individual: Mary Howes > Gender: Female > Age: 48 > Country of Origin: England > Family Number: 3066769 > Ship Name: Prince Albert > Port of Departure: London > Port of Arrival: New York > Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 > Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 > Microfilm Number: 85 > **************************************** > Individual: Ann Howes > Gender: Female > Age: 1 > Country of Origin: England > Family Number: 3066769 > Ship Name: Prince Albert > Port of Departure: London > Port of Arrival: New York > Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 > Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 > Microfilm Number: 85 > ********************************************** > Individual: Charles Howes > Gender: Male > Age: 10 > Country of Origin: England > Family Number: 3066769 > Ship Name: Prince Albert > Port of Departure: London > Port of Arrival: New York > Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 > Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 > Microfilm Number: 85 > *********************************** > Individual: Elis Howes > Gender: Female > Age: 20 > Country of Origin: England > Family Number: 3066769 > Ship Name: Prince Albert > Port of Departure: London > Port of Arrival: New York > Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 > Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 > Microfilm Number: 85 > *************************************** > Individual: Henry Howes > Gender: Male > Age: 7 > Country of Origin: England > Family Number: 3066769 > Ship Name: Prince Albert > Port of Departure: London > Port of Arrival: New York > Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 > Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 > Microfilm Number: 85 > *************************************** > Individual: Rob Howes > Gender: Male > Age: 11 > Country of Origin: England > Family Number: 3066769 > Ship Name: Prince Albert > Port of Departure: London > Port of Arrival: New York > Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 > Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 > Microfilm Number: 85 > > The husband & father wasn't listed so he either came over first, to get > things started or he isn't with the family, for some other reason. > > > In a message dated 11/30/2008 5:37:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hello > I need some assistance in locating a passenger lists for the ship Prince > Albert, arrived New York, 3 Dec 1849. Mary Howes age 48, with 5 of her > children (Daniel & Mary Mason and Ann Mason with 6 of her children on the > same ship). > > > Thank you > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW > AOL.com. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jack, found this on Germans to America. [Broderbund Family Archive #273, Ed. 1, Passenger Lists: New York, Internal Ref. #1.273.1.17381.12] Individual: Mary Howes Gender: Female Age: 48 Country of Origin: England Family Number: 3066769 Ship Name: Prince Albert Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 85 **************************************** Individual: Ann Howes Gender: Female Age: 1 Country of Origin: England Family Number: 3066769 Ship Name: Prince Albert Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 85 ********************************************** Individual: Charles Howes Gender: Male Age: 10 Country of Origin: England Family Number: 3066769 Ship Name: Prince Albert Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 85 *********************************** Individual: Elis Howes Gender: Female Age: 20 Country of Origin: England Family Number: 3066769 Ship Name: Prince Albert Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 85 *************************************** Individual: Henry Howes Gender: Male Age: 7 Country of Origin: England Family Number: 3066769 Ship Name: Prince Albert Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 85 *************************************** Individual: Rob Howes Gender: Male Age: 11 Country of Origin: England Family Number: 3066769 Ship Name: Prince Albert Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Dec 3, 1849 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 85 The husband & father wasn't listed so he either came over first, to get things started or he isn't with the family, for some other reason. In a message dated 11/30/2008 5:37:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello I need some assistance in locating a passenger lists for the ship Prince Albert, arrived New York, 3 Dec 1849. Mary Howes age 48, with 5 of her children (Daniel & Mary Mason and Ann Mason with 6 of her children on the same ship). Thank you ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)

Good morning Denise, A 'Chief Officer' is a Company (ship owner's) title in the British marcantile marine (now the Merchant Navy), usually held by the Chief (or 1st.) Mate, which is the senior post below that of Master and note that only the rank of Mate and Master are the legal ranks. The Chief or 1st Mate is the senior officer on the ship below Master who is the overall man in charge (commonly known as the Captain), and apart from navigation and watchkeeping, the 'Mate is responsible for the cargo, discipline of the crew, maintenance of the fabric of the ship, etc. You need your ship's Official Number for any further documentary research (see my recent reply to a similar enquiry, by browsing through this site's archives) There were several with this name: 23229 London 1849 569 tons, sail 37587 Nova Scotia 25 tons sail - not this one, for sure. 60885 London 1868 569 tons Sail ? coincidence of tonnage with 23229. Possibly 23229 had been lost. and this was a rebuild? Then there is: INVESTIGATOR O.N. 79344 Adelaide 1883 345 tons, Steam ! First registered: Adelaide, on May 26th. 1883, Port number 7/83 This is the first time the vessel had been registered and given her official mnumber. If she had sailed previously under another name, she would have had a different official number and that does not change with a change of name. This number is carved into her main beam and remains with her for life. There are some documents for this vessel at The National Archives for 1883 under reference BT 00/1398 and http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=79344&txtrestriction=BT+99&hdnsorttype=Reference&j=1 Nothing at Newfoundland. You might try Greenwich for years ending with a 5. Some discrepency on dates for this ship with O.N. 79344: if she was first registered in Adelaid in May 1883, she would not have sailed from Glasgow in December 1882, but see below..... Perhaps your log book will give some indication about this. Maybe she was an earlier 'INVESTIGATOR' which had a steam engine added later. Was she a survey vessel? The Official Log Book would have been returned to the (British) Registrar Geneeral of Ships and Seamen. Yours is a personal log kept by the Chief Officer, or 1st. Mate, unless he was serving on a Naval vessel..... of which there were several with this name: Paul Benyon's http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/Index.html http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/I/02446.html Investigator, 1848 Type: Discovery vessel ; Launched : 1848 02 acquired ; Disposal date or year : 1852 Disposal Details : Abandoned in the Arctic Ice ; Com. Robt Jno Le Mesurier McClure BM: 480 tons 1848 Search for HMS Erebus and Terror 1 Jul 1850 Arrived Honolulu 4 Jul 1850 Sails for the North in search of Sir John Franklin's missing expedition. 30 Aug 1851 Arctic Exploration but note 'disposed of in 1852. Doesn't say whether she was scrapped or sold. Referring back to my previous replies to similar enquiries you will find the various contacts for Australian shipping records. Note also that you can check with the Glasgow archvies which shows unexpectedly, a passenger ship (hence no cargo): http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/shipview.asp s.s. INVESTIGATOR -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- built by D & W Henderson Ltd Glasgow, Yard No 249 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Propulsion: Steam, engines aft Built: 1882 Ship Type: Passenger Cargo Vessel Tonnage: 584 grt Length: 210.3 feet Breadth: 28.3 feet Owner History: 1881 Spencer's Gulf S.S. Co., Adelaide 1884 Adelaide S.S. Co. Status: Wrecked - 24/04/1918 Remarks: Wrecked 24/4/1918 at Wardany Island. Looks like this is your ship. Mirimar confirms this ship but still gives no Official Number: http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/337904 Launched 12/10/1882. Does that date of launch tie in with your Log Book. Can you find an Official Number in your records? This might have been her maiden voyage to Austalasia in which case you want to contact: http://www.gla.ac.uk/archives/collections/ which should be able to identify her O.N. for you, and hopefully much more, possibly including photos. Try also: http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/index.htm Once the ship is positively identified, your log books will be of nterest to various museums, etc. sorry it's a but chaotic - I wrote the email as I found the info. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:07 AM Subject: [TSL] where do I start? >I have a Chief Officer's Log Book for the Investigator which left > Glasgow 15 Dec 1882 and arrived in Port Adelaide 21 Feb 1883. The log > is mainly a record of position on an hourly basis and weather condition. > There are occasional mentions of coaling, repairs & maintenance, > attention to pumps. > > Was the position of Chief Officer the same in 1882 as it is today? As > no mention is given regarding passengers or cargo, how can I find out > what sort of vessel it was, where it was built and what happened to it > after its arrival in Australia? > > I am very new to research of this kind and have absolutely no idea where > to go though I have tried looking up a couple of ships websites to no > avail. > > Denise > -- > > [email protected] > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 29/11/2008 18:52

Hello I need some assistance in locating a passenger lists for the ship Prince Albert, arrived New York, 3 Dec 1849. Mary Howes age 48, with 5 of her children (Daniel & Mary Mason and Ann Mason with 6 of her children on the same ship). Thank you

I have a Chief Officer's Log Book for the Investigator which left Glasgow 15 Dec 1882 and arrived in Port Adelaide 21 Feb 1883. The log is mainly a record of position on an hourly basis and weather condition. There are occasional mentions of coaling, repairs & maintenance, attention to pumps. Was the position of Chief Officer the same in 1882 as it is today? As no mention is given regarding passengers or cargo, how can I find out what sort of vessel it was, where it was built and what happened to it after its arrival in Australia? I am very new to research of this kind and have absolutely no idea where to go though I have tried looking up a couple of ships websites to no avail. Denise -- [email protected] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service.

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for November 2008 is . . . o Arrivals: o Emigrant Ships to Australia and the Cape of Good Hope, 1856-1858 o Emigrant Ships to Australia, Cape of Good Hope and Natal, 1857-1859 These are rather useful pages even if you aren't researching Australia or South Africa, as the ships named, which were chartered for the "assisted" passengers, often sailed to other parts of the world with emigrants. Knowing the tonnage, helps to identify vessels of the 'same name'. Interesting to see the first Steam Ship with assisted emigrants (the first which I have noticed), the UNDAUNTED, arriving at Melbourne, Victoria 20th Aug 1857, from Plymouth 4th June, after a passage of 77 days . . . which wasn't really too much better than some of the sailing vessels. Interesting to learn the reason for the really lengthy passage fro some, like the BOANERGES, which first sailed from Liverpoool Feb. 17th 1857 ...This vessel having put into Cork to repair damages received in a gale at sea, sailed thence on the 30th March. She again met with bad weather, and losing her topmasts put into Plymouth on the 6th April. Such of her emigrants as desired to continue their voyage were sent forward in the VOCALIST, which sailed on he 7th May 1857.... The BOANERGES finally sailed on July 15th and arrived at Sydney on October 20th 1857. o Passengers: o ship Aliquis, from Plymouth to Port Adelaide 26th August 1856 o ship Blundell, from Southampton to Port Adelaide 11th October 1856 o ship Switzerland, from Southampton to Port Adelaide 27th October 1856 Three more ships with assisted passengers to South Australia for 1856, with only two left to complete that year. Once again they are great lists with lots of families, several single men, but fewer single women. If you recognise any families / people, who are wrongly recorded, please let Robert or I know. ... also, If anyone is able to furnish corrections or additions (like maiden names) to any of the South Australia Lists, please write to Robert or myself. Also if you know that any family or individual did leave for Victoria after arrival at South Australia then we'd like to know that too, so it can be added as a note to the list. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy ! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

My 2 x great grandfather, John Morrissey, was born at sea, in the 1840’s, while his mother was on a little vessel, named “The Cabot”, from St. John’s to St. Mary’s, Newfoundland. John and his younger brother, James, had two fishing vessels. In the early 1870’s, while on a trip from St. John’s, Newfoundland to Sydney, Nova Scotia, on a littler steamer named “The Hawk”, John was washed overboard and his body never recovered. So, John was born and died at sea. I have had a time trying to locate anything on either ship. Can someone help me in this endeavor? Also, would John's birth certificate be in St. John's, where he lived or in St. Mary's, where they landed? Since he was washed overboard, where would his death certificate be filed? 

Gosh, What a great article! It's certainly brought Felix and Rosa to life hasn't it! I thought I would try to Google and see if I could find anything and lo and behold take a look at this: _http://www.ci.middleton.wi.us/City/history/history.htm_ (http://www.ci.middleton.wi.us/City/history/history.htm) - good picture of one of Felix's establishments. Also, I found this burial for Rosa M Duschak - could be connected? _http://www.interment.net/data/us/pa/lebanon/indiantown/index_didz.htm_ (http://www.interment.net/data/us/pa/lebanon/indiantown/index_didz.htm) Also....found an obituary for Wenzel Duschak: --------- Duschak, Wenzel (1871 – 30 NOV 1947) Funeral services for Wenzel Duschak, 76, of Neillsville (Clark Co., Wis.), were held Wednesday morning at 8:30 at the Georgas Funeral Home, and at 9 o’ clock at St. Mary’s Catholic Church. The Rev. Fr. John J. Pritzl officiated. Burial was made in the parish cemetery. Mr. Duschak died Nov. 30, 1947. He was born in 1871, in Bohemia, and came as a young man to the United States, settling in Dane county. He came to Clark county and purchased a farm in the town of Pine Valley. Later he returned to Dane County, where he managed a farm until his retirement. He returned to this community about 10 years ago. He was never married. Surviving are several nieces and nephews, among them, Mrs. Ed Hagie of Shortville and Joe Cardarelle of Neillsville. A rosary service was held Tuesday evening at the funeral home. Take a look at the website as this obituary belongs to a family tree and you can leave a message there _http://www.usgennet.org/usa/wi/county/clark/webbbs/records/index.cgi?read=49143_ (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/wi/county/clark/webbbs/records/index.cgi?read=49143) Regards Diana Regarding: Kirsten wrote: > Hello I am trying to find more information on two brothers who came > from Bohemia. The 1920 US census lists an immigration date of 1883 > for Felix and Wenzel Duschak who settled in Dane County, Wisconsin. > Felix might have already been married to Rosa when he emigrated. Can > anyone help me to find out more about them? Padlock Will End Jovial Career of Once Famous Inn Gay rendezvous of student parties for many a year, the roadhouse just of the concrete on U. S. highway 12 at the bend just this side of Middleton, (formerly the chicken dinner establishment of the late Frank Hoover) will no longer ring to the joyous cries of youthful revelers. This was decreed in federal court Monday by Judge C. Z. Luse, who snapped a padlock on the establishment, prohibiting its further use as a "soft drink" emporium. Padlocked After Raid The padlock edict followed a raid by federal prohibition officers last summer when the officers reported that they had been served liquor in one of the rooms on the second floor of the dwelling house. The house was closed after the raid, and Clyde and Forrest Teasdale, the operators, who held a three-year lease, vacated. Padlock proceedings were instituted at that time. Appearing in federal court Monday on behalf of Mrs. Felix Duschak, who owned the place, Atty. Frank Lucas made a plea that the court refrain from imposing a permanent padlock decree on the place, since its rental comprises Mrs. Duschak's only source of income. The modified padlock order, effective Jan. 4, was consented to by Judge Luse , providing that Mrs. Duschak may apply for a reopening order when a tenant satisfactory to the government is found. Under this ruling, the place may be used as a residence or a store, but its days of gay parties are definitely ended. Recalls Better Days The interior of the place is reminiscent of the balmy days when it was a saloon. The saloon fixtures have been retained in the old sheet iron covered structure. At one time the place was famed as a chicken dinner establishment, operated by the late Frank Hoover, who later built his own place north of Middleton. Since that time there have been numerous tenants. The building was owned by the late Felix Duschak, and after his death it was passed into the possession of his widow. Before his death, Mr. Duschak executed a three-year lease to the Teasdales, the most recent tenants. The Capital Times, Madison, Wisconsin, 16 Dec. 1930, p. 1 col. 7 and p. 12, col. 2 You can find out more about the Duschaks by searching NewspaperArchive.com, available free via BadgerLink to Wisconsin library card holders. Good luck! Kathy

Kirsten wrote: > Hello I am trying to find more information on two brothers who came > from Bohemia. The 1920 US census lists an immigration date of 1883 > for Felix and Wenzel Duschak who settled in Dane County, Wisconsin. > Felix might have already been married to Rosa when he emigrated. Can > anyone help me to find out more about them? Padlock Will End Jovial Career of Once Famous Inn Gay rendezvous of student parties for many a year, the roadhouse just of the concrete on U. S. highway 12 at the bend just this side of Middleton, (formerly the chicken dinner establishment of the late Frank Hoover) will no longer ring to the joyous cries of youthful revelers. This was decreed in federal court Monday by Judge C. Z. Luse, who snapped a padlock on the establishment, prohibiting its further use as a "soft drink" emporium. Padlocked After Raid The padlock edict followed a raid by federal prohibition officers last summer when the officers reported that they had been served liquor in one of the rooms on the second floor of the dwelling house. The house was closed after the raid, and Clyde and Forrest Teasdale, the operators, who held a three-year lease, vacated. Padlock proceedings were instituted at that time. Appearing in federal court Monday on behalf of Mrs. Felix Duschak, who owned the place, Atty. Frank Lucas made a plea that the court refrain from imposing a permanent padlock decree on the place, since its rental comprises Mrs. Duschak's only source of income. The modified padlock order, effective Jan. 4, was consented to by Judge Luse , providing that Mrs. Duschak may apply for a reopening order when a tenant satisfactory to the government is found. Under this ruling, the place may be used as a residence or a store, but its days of gay parties are definitely ended. Recalls Better Days The interior of the place is reminiscent of the balmy days when it was a saloon. The saloon fixtures have been retained in the old sheet iron covered structure. At one time the place was famed as a chicken dinner establishment, operated by the late Frank Hoover, who later built his own place north of Middleton. Since that time there have been numerous tenants. The building was owned by the late Felix Duschak, and after his death it was passed into the possession of his widow. Before his death, Mr. Duschak executed a three-year lease to the Teasdales, the most recent tenants. The Capital Times, Madison, Wisconsin, 16 Dec. 1930, p. 1 col. 7 and p. 12, col. 2 You can find out more about the Duschaks by searching NewspaperArchive.com, available free via BadgerLink to Wisconsin library card holders. Good luck! Kathy

Okay, we know (maybe) it was more than one Brother, looks like mother father and several siblings coming before the 1880 census. I found one that looks good, but truth, I can not read the image it looks like ///// /////, it is a hand I don't know <G> in fact a whole family could be listed under Duschak. Eliz Name: Francesco Duschak Arrival Date: 7 Jun 1879 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Age: 18 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany Destination: United States of America Place of Origin: Austria Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Austrian Ship Name: Mosel Search Ship Database: Search the Mosel in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York Line: 7 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_418 List Number: 579 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Kirsten <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello > I am trying to find more information on two brothers who came from Bohemia. The 1920 US census lists an immigration date of 1883 for Felix and Wenzel Duschak who settled in Dane County, Wisconsin. Felix might have already been married to Rosa when he emigrated. Can anyone help me to find out more about them? > Thank you , > Kirsten > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Still not finding them in 1900 or on a passanger list <G> but... Name: Felix Dushek Age in 1910: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Birthplace: Austria Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Austria Mother's Birth Place: Austria Spouse's Name: Rosa Home in 1910: Middleton, Dane, Wisconsin Marital Status: Married for 24 years Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1885 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Felix Dushek 56 Rosa Dushek 48 Albert Dushek 23 June Dushek 21 Henrietta Dushek 17 Alex Dushek 14 Leo Dushek 12 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Kirsten <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello > I am trying to find more information on two brothers who came from Bohemia. The 1920 US census lists an immigration date of 1883 for Felix and Wenzel Duschak who settled in Dane County, Wisconsin. Felix might have already been married to Rosa when he emigrated. Can anyone help me to find out more about them? > Thank you , > Kirsten > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello I am trying to find more information on two brothers who came from Bohemia. The 1920 US census lists an immigration date of 1883 for Felix and Wenzel Duschak who settled in Dane County, Wisconsin. Felix might have already been married to Rosa when he emigrated. Can anyone help me to find out more about them? Thank you , Kirsten

Good morning Mike, Well, sounds like your ship so I'd get a copy of those documents from Newfoudland. Probably cost around £30 but, assuming this is the vessel you are looking for, seems like they have everything you could ask for. Once you establish who the owner is, and where she was then registered, you might be able to find more from the records of her home port [see 'Stephen Watson' below]. By the way, the 'Agnes Jessie' 28889 187 t. Sail, was first registered in the port of Glasgow, 6.10.1860, her port registration number being 80:1860, although there is always a possibility that she was re-registered in another port, but the timescale suggests not. You might like to check the Clydeside archives: 'Stephen Watson' o.n. 2661 Signal Code letters H.Q.C.K. recorded in 1857 MN List (and therefore in others) 1st registered Sunderl;and, 240 t. sail 157._1838 This could be either her port number in 1838, or the 157th. day in 1838 You will need to check/clarify with Sunderland archives (I think they have a maritime museum) Don't forget to ask for their Ship Transaction Documents which they should have on fiche. They record a ship's owners during the period of her registration in that port, and can prove useful for further research into the lifr of a ship. These fiche were issued by the Registrar to those port museums and/or libraries that wanted them, a few years ago Some still have their original copies, which also might be found in County Archives {Essex is a good example of that] appears to have been "lost ??? 31/3/1866" but I might have misread this. Newfoundland has something for 1863: http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=2661 I2 - (AC) Agreement and account of crew in a foreign-going ship. No official log present. So, another Foreign Going vessel so you might like to try the other sites, including Greenwith for 1865. As she was wrecked you might want to join the Shipwreck forum: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/SHIPWRECK.html By the way, the Mercantile Navy List for 1860 is readable on Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=0ekNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PT717&dq=The+Mercantile+Navy+List+1860#PPT1,M1 which includes some Masters and Mates but give little apart from O.N. and code signals for the ships. which you might like to explore for your ships. Do please let us know how you get on with your searches as everyone will benefit from learning which resources prove the most useful. I would suggest you keep the same title By the way, all of you looking into ship research should look at the C.L.I.P. project Chris > Chris, > > Many thanks for the details. I have found a couple of Arrivals in > Sydney Australis for the "Agnes Jessie". Lacks much detail but the > signatures fit the marriage certificate that came yesterday. There were > 50 arrivals logged between 1862 and 1882 in Sydney, so was obviously > kept busy. > > By the way how did you find the Official Number? I have his > father-in-law's 218 ton brig, the "Stephen Watson" out of The Wear to > sort out. > > People I can usually manage, but shipping is very new to me. > > Kind regards > > Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Woods" <[email protected]> To: "Mike YEGWART" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Capt. Adam McDonald > Hi Mike, > > You might like to have a look at some of the sites here, to begin with: > http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm > > and if his ship visited America, he may well be found here: > http://library.mysticseaport.org/ > where you can search by Master's name, as well a sby ship's name.. > http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/VMSearch.cfm > > If you find what may be one of his ships, you will have to find her > Official Number. > This is essential for further research using a ship's name. For example, > someone recently was looking for a ship called the EMILY. Well, there > would literally have been hundreds built with that name, but their O.N. > is their unique identifier, and it is carved into her main beam, for > life (nowadays it is welded on). > > If you eventually identify any of his ships, we can then start searching > for their documents including crew lists, accounts of voyages and log > books, many of which survive. > > Can you give any indication at all as to where he might have sailed? > You need to consider whether he worked in Home Waters (i.e. UK and Near > Continent) in which case he might not have needed a Certificate of > Competency as a Master (which makes things rather difficult). There is > also the Middle Trade which extends from the Baltic to the Med., for > which he would need a 'ticket, and finally 'Foreign' which covers the > whole world. > > A word of caution - Master Mariner is a 'qualification' or level of > competance. Did he actually sail as Master? > > If you do find one of his ships's this can lead to a backward search > through his career as seamen had to declare the name of their previous > ship when first joining another, complete with date of leaving. > > and: > AGNES JESSIE Official Number 28889 One set of original document in > the Newfoundland archives: > http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=28889 > which holds most of the British 'Registrar General of Ships and Seamen' > records. In this case it is a very useful: > J1 - List C. Account of crew of foreign going ship, to be delivered at the > end of the voyage to the shipping master at the "above" port. Official log > present. (For a partial image of the first page of a type List C "J" coded > crew list see Code J2 List C below.) or: > Schedule C. A list of the crew (including master and apprentices) > at the time of departure from a port in the United Kingdom. Official log > present > > If the date fits your man, you need to contact the Memorial Museum: > http://www.mun.ca/mha/ > > There are no documents for this ship at the National Archives (Kew). For > years ending with a 5, you might find something at Greenwich but I cannot > search their archives on line for you. > Chris > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike YEGWART" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:00 PM > Subject: [TSL] Capt. Adam McDonald > > >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone come across a Master Mariner, Adam McDonald born about 1826, >> around the 1860's? Possibly working out of Sunderland, England. Sorry >> no idea as to type of ship. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mike >> ------------------------------- >> visit TheShipsList Website >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1810 - Release Date: > 24/11/2008 14:36 >

[email protected] wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Is this him? http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1862/12/078agn.htm > > Regards > > Diana > > /Re: Has anyone come across a Master Mariner, Adam McDonald born > about 1826, > around the 1860's? Possibly working out of Sunderland, England. Sorry > no idea as to type of ship. > > Cheers > > Mike > / Diana, Not much information there, but Captain McDonald's signature matches his marriage certificate that arrived in today's post. The ship is the 187 ton schooner "Agnes Jessie" out of Glasgow in New South Wales in December 1862. Very many thanks Mike

Hi, Has anyone come across a Master Mariner, Adam McDonald born about 1826, around the 1860's? Possibly working out of Sunderland, England. Sorry no idea as to type of ship. Cheers Mike

Hi List, Can anyone give me an idea how long it would take for a sailing ship to make its way from Liverpool along the Welsh coast? In particular, given unfavourable winds, could a ship still be off the north coast of Wales a week after departing Liverpool? With thanks, Jo Mitchell Geelong, Australia http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishchurches/