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I would be interested in anything about that sail. My we hav no fur gggrandfather was reported lost at sea in that time period. We have no other information other his surname was Coomes. He had a son born abt. 1817-1818 named James T. Coomes, died abt 1900. Thought to be from Ireland. Patience Sent from my iPad > On Jul 8, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Mike Guest <m.guest@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > I'd be interested in anything on that ship as well. I've got mixed > information as to whether my GGG Grandfather came over on that ship and then > by land to London Township or on a ship called Camperdown 1n 1919 which > landed in Quebec and then they made their way to London Township. > > On the Camperdown, I have: > > Camperdown > > Originally from the site: > http://dcs1.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/strayships.html (site no longer > available) > > Left from Limerick, June 25, 1819. Arrived Quebec, Sept 7, 1819. 330 aboard, > 4 deaths. > > ------------------------------------ > > Originally from the site: http://www.webruler.com/gprovost/ShipsC.htm (user > no longer active on site) > > CAMPERDOWN - 1819-1826 > (Green Book - Underwriters) > Master: Captain J. Evans (1819-20); Captain W. Dails (1821-22); > Captain W. Raisebeck (1823-25); Captain Gall (1826) > Rigging: Ship; single deck with beams; sheathed in 1814, 1819 & 1825; > sheating repaired in 1822; fastened with iron bolts > Tonnage: 355 tons > Construction: in Whitby; vessel 22 years old (1819); major repairs in 1814, > 1818, 1821 & 1825; some repairs in 1823; new keel in 1825 > Owners: Kirkman & Co. (1819-23); Wharton (1824-26) > Draught under load: 16 feet > Port of survey: Hull (1819-24/1826); London (1825) > Voyage: sailed for Miramichi (1819-20); America (1821-22); > Québec (1823/1825); Pictou (1824); Baltic Sea (1826) > > (Red Book - Shipowners) > Master: Captain Evans (1819-20); Captain Dales (1821-23); > Captain Raisebeck (1824-26) > Rigging: Ship; single deck with beams; sheathed in 1814 & 1821 > Tonnage: 356 tons > Construction: 1798 in Whitby; partial new wales in 1813; some repairs in > 1814 > & 1825; new keel & major repairs in 1820 > Owners: Captain (1819-23); Wharton (1824-26) > Draught under load: 16 feet > Port of survey: Hull (1819-22/1824); Liverpool (1823); London (1825-26) > Voyage: sailed for the Baltic Sea (1819-20); America (1821-22/1824); > Elsinborg (1823); St. Petersburg (1825-26) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nantwich@rogers.com [mailto:nantwich@rogers.com] > Sent: July 8, 2019 1:58 PM > To: theshipslist@gmail.com; Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST > Subject: [TSL] Brunswick, > > The Brunswick sailed from Cork, Ireland, with 230 passengers emigrating to > Canada, arriving in 1818 after a 45 day voyage destined by land for London > Township, Ontario. > Would appreciate any information such as Passenger List, drawing of > Brunswick, etc. > Ray Jones > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Are there any records of passengers or for that matter ships travelling to and from Virginia in this period? Julie

Several cousins and I have been trying to locate our mutual GGG grandfather's route to Nova Scotia in 1814-1820, William George (Francis) Shatford from England with his brother, most likely London.  He supposed served aboard the HMS Java when it was captured and sank off the the coast of Brazil in 1814.  Taken prisoner, Shatford was placed ashore with over 300 other POW's and eventually returned to England aboard two Portuguese caravels.  He would have been about 12-14 years old so served as a "Boy," if he served at all.  He does not appear on any crew lists or POW lists and was indentured as a cooper at the time.  We have no idea of the ships that arrived during that period or their passengers' lists.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.  Thanks much, Carl Nash

Hi Mike, Thx. for the response. Your reference indicates that the Brunswick weighed 524 tons. An earlier reference that I found indicated 1,324 tons. The London Township Census for 1842 has a James Guest plus the Geary family that I am researching. Do you have any other info. such as a drawing of the Brunswick? Ray Jones On Monday, July 8, 2019, 2:29:43 p.m. EDT, Mike Guest <m.guest@sympatico.ca> wrote: I found the 'strayships' website that I referenced earlier as no longer available  - it can now be seen at: https://personal.uwaterloo.ca/marj/genealogy/strayships.html It references both the Camperdown - Limerick to Quebec 1819 and the Brunswick - June 1818 to Quebec Mike -----Original Message----- From: nantwich@rogers.com [mailto:nantwich@rogers.com] Sent: July 8, 2019 1:58 PM To: theshipslist@gmail.com; Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST Subject: [TSL] Brunswick, The Brunswick sailed from Cork, Ireland, with 230 passengers emigrating to Canada, arriving in 1818 after a 45 day voyage destined by land for London Township, Ontario. Would appreciate any information such as Passenger List, drawing of Brunswick, etc. Ray Jones _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I found the 'strayships' website that I referenced earlier as no longer available - it can now be seen at: https://personal.uwaterloo.ca/marj/genealogy/strayships.html It references both the Camperdown - Limerick to Quebec 1819 and the Brunswick - June 1818 to Quebec Mike -----Original Message----- From: nantwich@rogers.com [mailto:nantwich@rogers.com] Sent: July 8, 2019 1:58 PM To: theshipslist@gmail.com; Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST Subject: [TSL] Brunswick, The Brunswick sailed from Cork, Ireland, with 230 passengers emigrating to Canada, arriving in 1818 after a 45 day voyage destined by land for London Township, Ontario. Would appreciate any information such as Passenger List, drawing of Brunswick, etc. Ray Jones _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I'd be interested in anything on that ship as well. I've got mixed information as to whether my GGG Grandfather came over on that ship and then by land to London Township or on a ship called Camperdown 1n 1919 which landed in Quebec and then they made their way to London Township. On the Camperdown, I have: Camperdown Originally from the site: http://dcs1.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/strayships.html (site no longer available) Left from Limerick, June 25, 1819. Arrived Quebec, Sept 7, 1819. 330 aboard, 4 deaths. ------------------------------------ Originally from the site: http://www.webruler.com/gprovost/ShipsC.htm (user no longer active on site) CAMPERDOWN - 1819-1826 (Green Book - Underwriters) Master: Captain J. Evans (1819-20); Captain W. Dails (1821-22); Captain W. Raisebeck (1823-25); Captain Gall (1826) Rigging: Ship; single deck with beams; sheathed in 1814, 1819 & 1825; sheating repaired in 1822; fastened with iron bolts Tonnage: 355 tons Construction: in Whitby; vessel 22 years old (1819); major repairs in 1814, 1818, 1821 & 1825; some repairs in 1823; new keel in 1825 Owners: Kirkman & Co. (1819-23); Wharton (1824-26) Draught under load: 16 feet Port of survey: Hull (1819-24/1826); London (1825) Voyage: sailed for Miramichi (1819-20); America (1821-22); Québec (1823/1825); Pictou (1824); Baltic Sea (1826) (Red Book - Shipowners) Master: Captain Evans (1819-20); Captain Dales (1821-23); Captain Raisebeck (1824-26) Rigging: Ship; single deck with beams; sheathed in 1814 & 1821 Tonnage: 356 tons Construction: 1798 in Whitby; partial new wales in 1813; some repairs in 1814 & 1825; new keel & major repairs in 1820 Owners: Captain (1819-23); Wharton (1824-26) Draught under load: 16 feet Port of survey: Hull (1819-22/1824); Liverpool (1823); London (1825-26) Voyage: sailed for the Baltic Sea (1819-20); America (1821-22/1824); Elsinborg (1823); St. Petersburg (1825-26) -----Original Message----- From: nantwich@rogers.com [mailto:nantwich@rogers.com] Sent: July 8, 2019 1:58 PM To: theshipslist@gmail.com; Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST Subject: [TSL] Brunswick, The Brunswick sailed from Cork, Ireland, with 230 passengers emigrating to Canada, arriving in 1818 after a 45 day voyage destined by land for London Township, Ontario. Would appreciate any information such as Passenger List, drawing of Brunswick, etc. Ray Jones _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The Brunswick sailed from Cork, Ireland, with 230 passengers emigrating to Canada, arriving in 1818 after a 45 day voyage destined by land for London Township, Ontario. Would appreciate any information such as Passenger List, drawing of Brunswick, etc. Ray Jones

Hi, Re Henricks family Ireland to New Orleans. Not sure if I can be of much help but have you tried the records of the Ursuline Convent, now a museum, in New Orleans. I visited the Museum last year and they had quite a bit about migrants to New Orleans in the 1800s and they mentioned their archives. I live in Passage West, Co Cork, Ireland which in the 1800s was the departure port of many emigrants to the US. Sorry that Iam not a greater help to you. Regards, Jim Murphy ----- Original Message ----- From: theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 7 May, 2019 09:02:58 Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 14, Issue 5 Send THESHIPSLIST mailing list submissions to theshipslist@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at theshipslist-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of THESHIPSLIST digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hendricks family arriving from Ireland to New Orleans, around 1840s? (janicefriel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 May 2019 07:45:26 -0400 From: janicefriel <janicefriel@aol.com> Subject: [TSL] Re: Hendricks family arriving from Ireland to New Orleans, around 1840s? To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2s97vjxb6e-1@m0143794.ppops.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Many times the husband came first and later brought his family. He could be traveling with a brother.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: ed burke via THESHIPSLIST <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Date: 5/5/19 8:13 PM (GMT-05:00) To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Cc: ed burke <elb2186@aol.com> Subject: [TSL] Hendricks family arriving from Ireland to New Orleans, around 1840s? My ancestor James (Jas) Hendricks came to New Orleans in the 1840s.  His wife was Mary, and they has at least two small children, Philip and James.I see a Jas Hendricks arriving in New Orleans in 1851, with a William Hendricks. But no mention of any other family membersDoes anyone have a suggestion of where I should be looking?ThanksEd BurkeJamaica Plain, Ma 02130_______________________________________________-------------------------------visit TheShipsList Websitehttp://www.theshipslist.com/_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list -- theshipslist@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 14, Issue 5 *******************************************

Many times the husband came first and later brought his family. He could be traveling with a brother.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: ed burke via THESHIPSLIST <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Date: 5/5/19 8:13 PM (GMT-05:00) To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Cc: ed burke <elb2186@aol.com> Subject: [TSL] Hendricks family arriving from Ireland to New Orleans, around 1840s? My ancestor James (Jas) Hendricks came to New Orleans in the 1840s.  His wife was Mary, and they has at least two small children, Philip and James.I see a Jas Hendricks arriving in New Orleans in 1851, with a William Hendricks. But no mention of any other family membersDoes anyone have a suggestion of where I should be looking?ThanksEd BurkeJamaica Plain, Ma 02130_______________________________________________-------------------------------visit TheShipsList Websitehttp://www.theshipslist.com/_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My ancestor James (Jas) Hendricks came to New Orleans in the 1840s.  His wife was Mary, and they has at least two small children, Philip and James. I see a Jas Hendricks arriving in New Orleans in 1851, with a William Hendricks. But no mention of any other family members Does anyone have a suggestion of where I should be looking? Thanks Ed BurkeJamaica Plain, Ma 02130

I've found with Ancestry that sometimes, fewer search terms are better than more. The search is working against a transcription, and if one of your required search elements - the arrival date, for example - happened to be omitted from a particular passenger's listing, this person won't appear in a results list. Transcriptions are done by humans and errors happen. That being said, start with very specific search terms, and if you get nothing or feel that you might not be getting all the hits you think you should, step back to a more general search. Try various options - remove dates, for example, and then put them back in and remove another term in your search, if you still aren't having much success. One of my best examples of this comes from a friend whose surname is Carman. She wasn't having much luck finding a 3X great-grandfather during his early years. After years of searching, she finally found him - with his surname transcribed as Conman. Cindy in Maryland (and a librarian who does much searching in many databases) -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 8:35 AM To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Cc: Jeff Coleman <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Subject: [TSL] Re: Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List You can refine the search to the arrival month, and it appears that there were about 2440 passengers arrived on the Barbarossa on 24th March 1905. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: 04 May 2019 12:44 To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Cc: Jeff Coleman <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Subject: [TSL] Re: Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List I suspect that the liner in question may have been called Barbarossa not Barabarossa as in the original posting. There seems to have been a transatlantic liner called Barbarossa in 1899 owned by 'Norddeutscher' which collided with the French liner Bretagne. https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4233435/4233438/35/barbarossa is one of many newspaper reports. The same vessel is named in 1906 as owned by North German Lloyd in https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3378279/3378286/155/barbarossa There was also a German battleship called Barbarossa launched in 1900 with that name. I also did an experiment on Ancestry and searched for Barbarossa , ticking exact, and 1905. It seems to have arrived there on a regular basis, from Bremen and sometimes from Southampton (presumably an intermediate stop) on 16 Feb 1905, 6 Jul 1905, 2 Jun 1905, 24 Mar 1905, 27 Apr 1905, 10 Aug 1905, and possibly other dates. 137,055 entries match Barbarossa and 1905. You may need to be creative with spelling searches. Some entries show nationalities, others don't. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> Sent: 04 May 2019 11:17 To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: [TSL] Re: Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List Hi Terry, Having done a quick experiment, I think I can answer your question. If you put the ship's name in the keyword field and select "Exact", it will limit the returns to those for that ship. You can then put in the date range you want, also specifying "exact", and you should get what you want. My experiment was to specify departures from Bremen in March 1904 (78 records returned). I then looked at the ship's involved and found that sometimes it was the Roon. So put roon in the keyword field, specify exact, and 47 records returned - just for the Roon. Does that help? Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire, England -----Original Message----- From: Terry Corbet <tcorbet@ix.netcom.com> Sent: 04 May 2019 00:13 To: TheShipsList@RootsWeb.com Subject: [TSL] Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual New York Arrivals. I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint. The challenge is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the specific port of Bremen in March of 1905. I have that inflection point for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to locate voyages, not individuals. As a starting point, just being able to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, within a date-range constraint, would be very useful. [Forcing "Step One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.] _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You can refine the search to the arrival month, and it appears that there were about 2440 passengers arrived on the Barbarossa on 24th March 1905. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Coleman via THESHIPSLIST <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: 04 May 2019 12:44 To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Cc: Jeff Coleman <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Subject: [TSL] Re: Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List I suspect that the liner in question may have been called Barbarossa not Barabarossa as in the original posting. There seems to have been a transatlantic liner called Barbarossa in 1899 owned by 'Norddeutscher' which collided with the French liner Bretagne. https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4233435/4233438/35/barbarossa is one of many newspaper reports. The same vessel is named in 1906 as owned by North German Lloyd in https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3378279/3378286/155/barbarossa There was also a German battleship called Barbarossa launched in 1900 with that name. I also did an experiment on Ancestry and searched for Barbarossa , ticking exact, and 1905. It seems to have arrived there on a regular basis, from Bremen and sometimes from Southampton (presumably an intermediate stop) on 16 Feb 1905, 6 Jul 1905, 2 Jun 1905, 24 Mar 1905, 27 Apr 1905, 10 Aug 1905, and possibly other dates. 137,055 entries match Barbarossa and 1905. You may need to be creative with spelling searches. Some entries show nationalities, others don't. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> Sent: 04 May 2019 11:17 To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: [TSL] Re: Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List Hi Terry, Having done a quick experiment, I think I can answer your question. If you put the ship's name in the keyword field and select "Exact", it will limit the returns to those for that ship. You can then put in the date range you want, also specifying "exact", and you should get what you want. My experiment was to specify departures from Bremen in March 1904 (78 records returned). I then looked at the ship's involved and found that sometimes it was the Roon. So put roon in the keyword field, specify exact, and 47 records returned - just for the Roon. Does that help? Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire, England -----Original Message----- From: Terry Corbet <tcorbet@ix.netcom.com> Sent: 04 May 2019 00:13 To: TheShipsList@RootsWeb.com Subject: [TSL] Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual New York Arrivals. I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint. The challenge is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the specific port of Bremen in March of 1905. I have that inflection point for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to locate voyages, not individuals. As a starting point, just being able to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, within a date-range constraint, would be very useful. [Forcing "Step One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.] _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I suspect that the liner in question may have been called Barbarossa not Barabarossa as in the original posting. There seems to have been a transatlantic liner called Barbarossa in 1899 owned by 'Norddeutscher' which collided with the French liner Bretagne. https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4233435/4233438/35/barbarossa is one of many newspaper reports. The same vessel is named in 1906 as owned by North German Lloyd in https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3378279/3378286/155/barbarossa There was also a German battleship called Barbarossa launched in 1900 with that name. I also did an experiment on Ancestry and searched for Barbarossa , ticking exact, and 1905. It seems to have arrived there on a regular basis, from Bremen and sometimes from Southampton (presumably an intermediate stop) on 16 Feb 1905, 6 Jul 1905, 2 Jun 1905, 24 Mar 1905, 27 Apr 1905, 10 Aug 1905, and possibly other dates. 137,055 entries match Barbarossa and 1905. You may need to be creative with spelling searches. Some entries show nationalities, others don't. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> Sent: 04 May 2019 11:17 To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: [TSL] Re: Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List Hi Terry, Having done a quick experiment, I think I can answer your question. If you put the ship's name in the keyword field and select "Exact", it will limit the returns to those for that ship. You can then put in the date range you want, also specifying "exact", and you should get what you want. My experiment was to specify departures from Bremen in March 1904 (78 records returned). I then looked at the ship's involved and found that sometimes it was the Roon. So put roon in the keyword field, specify exact, and 47 records returned - just for the Roon. Does that help? Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire, England -----Original Message----- From: Terry Corbet <tcorbet@ix.netcom.com> Sent: 04 May 2019 00:13 To: TheShipsList@RootsWeb.com Subject: [TSL] Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual New York Arrivals. I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint. The challenge is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the specific port of Bremen in March of 1905. I have that inflection point for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to locate voyages, not individuals. As a starting point, just being able to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, within a date-range constraint, would be very useful. [Forcing "Step One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.] _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Terry, Having done a quick experiment, I think I can answer your question. If you put the ship's name in the keyword field and select "Exact", it will limit the returns to those for that ship. You can then put in the date range you want, also specifying "exact", and you should get what you want. My experiment was to specify departures from Bremen in March 1904 (78 records returned). I then looked at the ship's involved and found that sometimes it was the Roon. So put roon in the keyword field, specify exact, and 47 records returned - just for the Roon. Does that help? Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire, England -----Original Message----- From: Terry Corbet <tcorbet@ix.netcom.com> Sent: 04 May 2019 00:13 To: TheShipsList@RootsWeb.com Subject: [TSL] Search Just for Ship Arrival Dates Not Passenger List I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual New York Arrivals. I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint. The challenge is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the specific port of Bremen in March of 1905. I have that inflection point for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to locate voyages, not individuals. As a starting point, just being able to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, within a date-range constraint, would be very useful. [Forcing "Step One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.] _______________________________________________ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My father (age3) and grandparents came to the US in 1920 from Belarus (Poland/Russia). They traveled on a boat called the Susquehanna. I have not looked at the list of passengers. Good luck in your ancestry search. Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Karen Carty <soulard2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Have you tried https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ > > >> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:13 PM Terry Corbet <tcorbet@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will >> not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual >> New York Arrivals. I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from >> Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint. The challenge >> is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] >> sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific >> arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], >> for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the >> specific port of Bremen in March of 1905. I have that inflection point >> for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure >> in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent >> examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests >> that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. >> >> So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is >> somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along >> might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close >> as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to >> locate voyages, not individuals. As a starting point, just being able >> to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, >> within a date-range constraint, would be very useful. [Forcing "Step >> One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more >> and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or >> the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------- >> visit TheShipsList Website >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Karen Carty > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Have you tried https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:13 PM Terry Corbet <tcorbet@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will > not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual > New York Arrivals. I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from > Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint. The challenge > is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] > sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific > arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], > for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the > specific port of Bremen in March of 1905. I have that inflection point > for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure > in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent > examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests > that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. > > So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is > somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along > might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close > as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to > locate voyages, not individuals. As a starting point, just being able > to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, > within a date-range constraint, would be very useful. [Forcing "Step > One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more > and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or > the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.] > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Karen Carty

I know that the search I need to perform for a great grandfather will not succeed via any of the search facilities for any access to the usual New York Arrivals.  I have no alternative but to fetch the pages from Ancestry in browse mode, page-by-page, squint-by-squint.  The challenge is to find the approximate location in the Ancestry [or alternative] sources where the pages of passenger manifests begin for a specific arrival port [New York for one line of research, Baltimore for another], for the specific vessel, the "SS Barabarossa", departing from the specific port of Bremen in March of 1905.  I have that inflection point for the arrival of that vessel in New York from that port of departure in March of 1904, but the line-by-line search fails, and subsequent examination of conflicting Declarations of Intent, strongly suggests that one of the statements was wrong with regards to year. So, I have explained my specific query quandary in what I hope is somewhat generic terms so that whatever suggestion you can pass along might be helpful for anyone with the same challenge -- getting as close as possible to a starting point in an Ancestry source by being able to locate voyages, not individuals.  As a starting point, just being able to query any of your sources for a list of arrivals, by port, by vessel, within a date-range constraint, would be very useful.  [Forcing "Step One Ellis Island Search" to perform a query that runs a minute or more and wants to return xxx,xxx records is not *nice* either for the user or the strain that puts on their servers and network bandwidth.]

This may be of interest. I noted this on another shipping forum of which I am a member ***** I am writing to you because, after a year of hard work, the Lloyd’s Register Foundation Heritage and Education Centre team are excited to finally be launching our new website! We are making accessible over 250 years of maritime history from our unique archive and collections. Since its formation in 1760, Lloyd’s Register has applied its expertise across the marine, energy and transportation sectors, helping to make the world a safer place. The Lloyd’s Register Foundation Heritage and Education Centre, therefore, houses one of the most important and exceptional archives, with material concerning 258 years of marine and engineering history and science. You can access our new website here, https://hec.lrfoundation.org.uk/. The new Heritage and Education Centre website includes fresh content that can be accessed, viewed and downloaded all for free. Many of the documents available have never been seen before and will be an invaluable tool for historians, engineers, genealogists, researchers, archaeologists, maritime enthusiasts and everyone in-between! The documents can also be used as an educational tool for museums and heritage sites or to help inform new exhibitions, curatorial projects and other archival ventures. The content that has been made available includes: • Digitised documents from the Ship Plan and Survey Report Collection- the launch of the website coincides with Project Undaunted, an ambitious plan to digitise 1.25 million documents in our collection, making unique ship plans and survey reports covering over 200 years of history freely available for public use. We have already digitised 10 per cent of this, focusing on our First and Famous ships which have been published with the new website. Our First and Famous ships include Cutty Sark, Bakuin and Mauretania. • Online access to the Casualty Returns (1890-2000) and the World Fleet Statistics (1878-2000). • An updated, fully-searchable Library Catalogue, complete with shelf location and descriptions. Over 59,000 books, journals and articles are searchable. • Brand new and updated blog posts – from the First World War to the Ship that saved Vancouver, we have blogs covering a plethora of topics from our archives! We will also have expert guest blogs from researchers and institutions we have collaborated with. • Overhauled enquiry forms, FAQs and contact us pages – you will be able to contact the Heritage and Education Centre team with your research enquiries and get expert help! • A new Events page, allowing users to browse and register for HEC events –we will be launching more events than ever before that will look to open access to our collections and engage with our history! The launch of our new website, marks the beginning of an exciting time in Heritage and Education Centre, as we seek to advance the public understanding of maritime history and the public education of marine and engineering science and history. Please share the link to our new website amongst colleagues, friends, students or anyone else you think might be interested! If you have any questions or would like more information on the website, collection, the Heritage and Education Centre or if you would like to use our material and work with us, please contact charlotte.ward@lrfoundation.org.uk or sean.clemenson@lrfoundation.org.uk. ***** Ron Mapplebeck (UK)

Please unsubscribe this email Let nothing disturb you, Let nothing frighten you, All things are passing away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things Whoever has God lacks nothing; God alone suffices. *-- St. Teresa of Avila* On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:10 AM Wendy Baker <wbaker5211@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Does anyone know anything at all about the SS St Helens (or possibly St > Helena)? My great-uncle Thomas Hutchinson Clark had postcard sent to him > by > his brother from Beachport, South Australia in about 1906, c/- SS St > Helens, > c/- Cunco Trading Coy, 8-10-12 Jury St, NY, USA. At the top of the postcard > was written "Left the ship" and it was re-addressed to J.M. Ceballos & Co., > 27 William St. City. Thomas apparently arrived in NY about 1903-04. He > married there abt 1911, & died in 1918. I am trying to find out by which > route he may have reached there, and whether SS St Helens went there direct > from Australia (which port??) or from elsewhere, UK perhaps. Thomas's > father > had emigrated from UK (near Durham) in 1878. Any information appreciated > please. Cheers, Wendy B. > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/theshipslist@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >