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Hi Carole, Pam from Adelaide Australia here....anything on Clarice Mayne and James W.Tate would be much appreciated by myself and my genie cousin........ every tit bit helps. Regards and thanks for the nice offer. Pam from Adelaide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 19 February 2003 00:38 Subject: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > Hello everyone, > I made this offer some time ago and I am repeating as per Dave's suggestion. > I have a rather battered copy of the above book which I am willing to do look-ups from. > The Melodies Linger On,the story of Music Hall by W.MACQUEEN-POPE,pb W.H.Allen,London app; 1950 > Carole Cumber,Canada. >

Hi Dave, Yes good idea.......Clarice Mayne is on one of Jo and my family branches linked to the "Dulley" / Purser side. She was married to James W. TATE the composer. Her second marriage after james died was to Teddy Knox of the crazy gang. Regards Pam from Adelaide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jassie" <dave.jassie@ntlworld.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 18 February 2003 20:03 Subject: [THEATRE-UK] ADMIN > Hi folks, > Now that Neal has managed to create a little traffic, perhaps those of > you who have sources you are willing to use to help others could remind > us of just what you've got. > Anyone who has searched the Theatre-UK website and been informed that > the search was unsuccessful may just want to try again. The search > engine had been searching the *old* now non-existent website. I've > chastised myself severely and corrected the problem. > Best wishes, > Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) > For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources > I have, > Visit Gen-Links at - > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html > >

Hello again Neal, What have you found on Bessie Bellwood?? I am forever looking for more information on the lady,my Great Aunt, Carole in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Dench" <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > Hi Carole > > This was a fascinating extract -- what an picture it conjures up. > > It also might be a clue as to how my Dad and Clarice Mayne knew each other, > because i haven't yet discovered a show in which they worked together. > However, my Dad did do something (quite a lot of somethings, I think) with > Julian Wylie. Off the top of my head, I can't remember what. Back to the > books again. > > While you're looking things up, could you see if there's anything on Bertram > DENCH. I think it's unlikely, but you never know. > > Right, off to type up some entries from the Who's Who ... > > Cheers > -- > Neal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > Hi Pam, Chris has quite a bit for you on your James.W.Tate here is what is > > in the book I have, > > "Clarice Mayne was also something quite apart.She was the perfect > principal > > boy;to see her entrance as"Prince Charming"in the ballroom scene of > > Cinderella,clad in black and silver,her truly lovely legs in silken > > tights,all of her sparkling with silver lace and diamonds,(none brighter > > than her own smile)was to understand what a principal boy and pantomine > > should be. Her carriage and deportment were amazing,she walked indeed as a > > Prince of Fairyland should walk,and an attractive husky voice,combined > with > > perfect diction,made her a great singer of songs. > > On the halls she was a double act,the other half being her husband,the > late > > James.W.Tate,who was always referred to as"That". He composed the songs > and > > accompanied her on the piano and his clever by play and facial expression > as > > he made silent love to her,was real artistry. The by-play was never > allowed > > to interfere with the songs,but at the end of the last one,she would flash > a > > smile of invitation to"That"and he would rise from the piano,his face one > > huge smile,put his tie straight,stick his hands in his pocket and swagger > > off,the complete picture of the triumphant male. > > The songs that these two consummate artists gave to music hall hold a > place > > still,such songs as"I was a good Little Girl till I met you";"I'm Looking > > For Someone To Love Me" and "Joshua"for example.Tate died in 1922,a victim > > of overwork,his great achievement uncompleted. He was a partner with > Julian > > Wylie in pantomine productions and to his own dying day,Julian Wylie never > > produced a pantomine unless he had some of Jimmie Tate's music in it;he > kept > > his memory green to the last. Clarice Mayne is married again,and > happily,to > > that splendid comedian,Teddie Knox.But though she no longer performs,she > is > > still the same gracious lady of charm,whose songs will always be > > remembered". > > > > Hope you enjoy this little insight into these two lovely people as much as > I > > did, > > Carole in Cold Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pam Hillier" <pamhillier@iprimus.com.au> > > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > > > > Hi Carole, > > > Pam from Adelaide Australia here....anything on Clarice Mayne and James > > > W.Tate would be much appreciated by myself and my genie cousin........ > > > > > > every tit bit helps. > > > > > > Regards and thanks for the nice offer. > > > Pam from Adelaide > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > > > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: 19 February 2003 00:38 > > > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I made this offer some time ago and I am repeating as per Dave's > > > suggestion. > > > > I have a rather battered copy of the above book which I am willing to > do > > > look-ups from. > > > > The Melodies Linger On,the story of Music Hall by W.MACQUEEN-POPE,pb > > > W.H.Allen,London app; 1950 > > > > Carole Cumber,Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Neal, When I first saw your name on the list I did look to see if any mention was made of Bertram Dench but nothing. This book starts with reference to the birth in 1819 of Charles MORTON and ends with Gracie FIELDS(1950) and many are mentioned in between, Carole. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Dench" <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > Hi Carole > > This was a fascinating extract -- what an picture it conjures up. > > It also might be a clue as to how my Dad and Clarice Mayne knew each other, > because i haven't yet discovered a show in which they worked together. > However, my Dad did do something (quite a lot of somethings, I think) with > Julian Wylie. Off the top of my head, I can't remember what. Back to the > books again. > > While you're looking things up, could you see if there's anything on Bertram > DENCH. I think it's unlikely, but you never know. > > Right, off to type up some entries from the Who's Who ... > > Cheers > -- > Neal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > Hi Pam, Chris has quite a bit for you on your James.W.Tate here is what is > > in the book I have, > > "Clarice Mayne was also something quite apart.She was the perfect > principal > > boy;to see her entrance as"Prince Charming"in the ballroom scene of > > Cinderella,clad in black and silver,her truly lovely legs in silken > > tights,all of her sparkling with silver lace and diamonds,(none brighter > > than her own smile)was to understand what a principal boy and pantomine > > should be. Her carriage and deportment were amazing,she walked indeed as a > > Prince of Fairyland should walk,and an attractive husky voice,combined > with > > perfect diction,made her a great singer of songs. > > On the halls she was a double act,the other half being her husband,the > late > > James.W.Tate,who was always referred to as"That". He composed the songs > and > > accompanied her on the piano and his clever by play and facial expression > as > > he made silent love to her,was real artistry. The by-play was never > allowed > > to interfere with the songs,but at the end of the last one,she would flash > a > > smile of invitation to"That"and he would rise from the piano,his face one > > huge smile,put his tie straight,stick his hands in his pocket and swagger > > off,the complete picture of the triumphant male. > > The songs that these two consummate artists gave to music hall hold a > place > > still,such songs as"I was a good Little Girl till I met you";"I'm Looking > > For Someone To Love Me" and "Joshua"for example.Tate died in 1922,a victim > > of overwork,his great achievement uncompleted. He was a partner with > Julian > > Wylie in pantomine productions and to his own dying day,Julian Wylie never > > produced a pantomine unless he had some of Jimmie Tate's music in it;he > kept > > his memory green to the last. Clarice Mayne is married again,and > happily,to > > that splendid comedian,Teddie Knox.But though she no longer performs,she > is > > still the same gracious lady of charm,whose songs will always be > > remembered". > > > > Hope you enjoy this little insight into these two lovely people as much as > I > > did, > > Carole in Cold Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pam Hillier" <pamhillier@iprimus.com.au> > > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > > > > Hi Carole, > > > Pam from Adelaide Australia here....anything on Clarice Mayne and James > > > W.Tate would be much appreciated by myself and my genie cousin........ > > > > > > every tit bit helps. > > > > > > Regards and thanks for the nice offer. > > > Pam from Adelaide > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > > > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: 19 February 2003 00:38 > > > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I made this offer some time ago and I am repeating as per Dave's > > > suggestion. > > > > I have a rather battered copy of the above book which I am willing to > do > > > look-ups from. > > > > The Melodies Linger On,the story of Music Hall by W.MACQUEEN-POPE,pb > > > W.H.Allen,London app; 1950 > > > > Carole Cumber,Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi John, No Zillwoods, I'm afraid. There is an entry for FRANCIS, M. E., dramatic author, but that's the only match. Let me know if you want the info and I'll send it to you. -- Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Zillwood" <john@zillwood.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Lookups > Hi Neal, > > I had four Great Aunts that were in the Musichall probably from late 1800s > to the 1940s. Could you see if there is any mention of ZILLWOOD? Also my > Great Aunt Lydia Zillwood married a Walter HAVERS who, supposedly, was the > manager of Drury Lane. And one more if I could for my cousin. His > Grandfather was a playwright Francis Beard BARKER but wrote under the name > of Beard Francis. One play, for which I have seen an advertisement was "How > Like a Man" He was said to chum with GBS. > > TIA for any help. > > John Zillwood john@zillwood.com > Communications Officer > Abbotsford Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~bcags/ > >

Hi Sara, Sorry, no entries under any of Dormer, Jee, or Brothers :-( -- Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Pountney" <sara.pountney@ntlworld.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] Re: Lookups - 1930 Who's Who........ > Neal - just seen you kind offer - can you please look up for me. > > Daisy Dormer (Kezia Jee nee Stockwell) > and > Albert Jee - or more likely Egbert Brothers

Hi Louise, Here's the Who's Who entry for Joseph CAWTHORN. Cawthorn, Joseph, actor; b New York 29 Mar 1867; s of Alfred Cawthorne and his wife Sarah (Willett); m Queenie Vassar; made his first appearance on the stage as a child at Robinson's Music Hall, New York, 1871; in 1872 was with Haverley's Minstrels; at the age of 9 he was taken to England, and for four years appeared in various music halls; during 1883 toured the United States in"Little Nugget"; has for many years been a prominent comedian in musical plays; his most noted appearances have been made in "Excelsior, Jr", "Nature", "Miss Philadelphia", "The Singing Girl" and "The Fortune Teller"; at the New York Amsterdam Theatre, New York, Dec 1903, played Mother Goose in the piece of that name; in 1905, played Fritz Von Swobenfritz in "Fritz of Tammany Hall"; at the New Amsterdam Theatre, 16 Apr 1906, played Siegmund Lump in "The Free Lance", subsequently touring (1906-7) in the same piece; in Nov 1907, appeared at the Knickerbocker Theatre, in "The Hoyden"; Oct 1908, appeared at the New Amsterdam Theatre as Doctor Pill in "Little Nemo"; subsequently toured in the same part; at the New Amsterdam Theatre, 1910, played Oscar Spiel in "Girlies"; at the Globe, New York, 1911, played Louis Von Schloppenhauer in "The Slim Princess"; and same theatre, 1911, Marky Zinsheimer in "A Star For A Night"; in 1912, toured in "The Slim Princess"; at the Knickerbocker Theatre, Feb 1913, played Schlump in "The Sunshine Girl"; at the Knickerbocker Theatre, Aug 1914, played Trimpel in "The Girl From Utah"; at the Liberty Theatre, Jan 1916, Otto Spreckles in"Sybil"; at the Empir, New York, Seot 1917, Joseph Guppy in "Rambler Rose"; at the Globe, New York, Nov 1918, Timothy in "The Canary"; and toured in this part, 1919-20; at the Liberty, Nov 1920, appeared as the Hon Hudson Jobson in "The Half-Moon"; subsequently played in "The Bunch and Judy"; at the Selwyn Theatre, Jan 1922, played Theodore Vanderpop i "The Blue Kitten"; at Chicago, Mar 1923, played in "Light Wines and Beer"; at the New Amsterdam, Sept 1925, played Siegfried Peters in "Sunny". Address: Deal, NJ, USA All the best -- Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Croyden" <lcroyden@worldchat.com> To: <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] Lookups > Hi Neal, > > Thank you for the kind offer of a look-up from the 1930 ed. I would be > interested to know if there is a Joseph CAWTHORN(E), in particular (or > possibility a Herbert or Alfred) or Queenie VASS(AR). > > Thanks again. > > Regards. > > Louise Croyden > Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neal Dench" <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:05 AM > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Lookups > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > It's been a quiet list lately. > > > > I've just managed to pick up a 1930 edition of Who's Who in the Theatre > (6th > > Ed) by John Parker, published by Pitman. I know someone else on the list > has > > offered to do lookups from another old edition, but different editions of > > books like these can vary quite a bit with new and updated information. So > > if anyone would like me to do lookups for them, I'm more than happy to -- > > just drop me a line. > > > > I have also borrowed, and am busily scanning, a whole bunch of theatrical > > pictures from my Mum. As well as including pictures of my own family > > (primarily my Dad, but also my Mum and her father), this obviously > includes > > dozens of pictures of other people in the theatre. Sadly, many are > > unidentified at the moment, but I know the names of just as many. > > > > Once I've finished scanning (there's a lot to go!), I'll catalogue all the > > names I have, and I'm happy to pass on photos to anyone that's interested. > I > > also hope to put up a sort of rogues gallery of unidentified faces on the > > web at some point. All this might take a long time, so in the meantime, if > > anyone has a relative that they know worked with either Bertram DENCH, > > Stella DIXON, or Paul DIXON (or possibly Paul HEATON -- same person, > > different stage name), drop me a line. > > > > All the best everyone > > > > -- > > Neal Dench > > >

Hi Louise, Here's the entry for Edna MAY: May, Edna (Pettie), actress and vocalist; b. Syracuse, New York, 2 Sept 1878; m. Oscar Lewisjohn; made her first appearance on any stage at her native town of Syracuse, in the Spring of 1883, as Little Willie Allen in "Dora"; in 1885 appeared in Syracuse in children's opera company in "HMS Pinafore" and as Mabel in "The Pirates of Penzance"; studied music at the New York Conservatoire, made her first appearance on the New York stage at Hammerstein's, 14 Sept 1896, as Clairette in "Santa Maria", under her own name of Edna May Pettie; at Hoyt's Theatre, 4 Jan 1897, she appeared as Calliope Ayre in "A Contented Woman" and was then engaged at the New York Casino by George W Lederer; she appeaered there on 25 May 1897 in a small part in "The Whirl of the Town" and was then selected to play the part of Violet Gray in "The Belle of New York", first produced on 28 Sept 1897; she made her first appearance on the London stage at the Shaftesbury Theatre, 12 Apr 1898, in the same part; at the Shaftesbury Theatre, 25 Apr 1900, she played Gabrielle Dalmonte in "An American Beauty"; she then returned to the United States; at the Herals Square Theatre, New York, 7 Jan 1901, she played Olga in "The Girl From Up There" and reappeared in London at the Duke Of York's, 23 Apr 1901, in the same part; in Sept 1901 she joined George Edwarded at the Apollo, playing the Baroness de Trégue in "Kitty Grey", and afterwards Edna Branscombe in "Three Little Maids"; she was next seen at the Prince Of Wales's, 9 May 1903, as Lillian Leigh in "The School Girl", and appeared in the same part at Daly's Theatre, New York, 1 Sept 1904, afterwards touring in the piece; at the Prince Of Wales's, during 1904, she played Alesia in a revival of La Poupée", at Daly's, New York, 28 Aug 1905, she played Angela Crystal in "The Catch of the Season"; she reappeared in London at the Vaudeville Theatre, 11 Apr 1906, as Julia Chaldicott in "The Belle of Mayfair"; her sudden resignation of the part, in Sept, caused a newspaper sensation; at the Aldwych Theatre, 10 Jan 1907, appeared as Nelly Neil in the play of that name; this proved to be her last professional engagement, as shortly afterwards she was married and quitted the stage; she appeared at the Savoy Theatre, in Feb 1911, for one week, in her old part in "The Belle of New York", in a series of performances given in aid of the Prince Francis of Teck Memorial Fund. Address: Ritz Hotel, Piccadilly, W1 All the best -- Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: CoakleyL@aol.com To: ndench@tinyworld.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:49 AM Subject: Lookup Hi Neal, Many thanks for your offer of a lookup in the 1930 Who's Who. Would you mind looking up Edna May PETTIE (known as Edna MAY), or she may be under her married name of LEWISOHN...? I feel a bit greedy asking, as I've been very lucky in that I've previously received a lookup from the 1947 edition, but I was hoping the content might be a little different 17 years earlier, when she was still alive. Edna was born in 1878 New York, and I think she died about 1938. Kind regards, Louise Melbourne, Australia

Hi Carole This was a fascinating extract -- what an picture it conjures up. It also might be a clue as to how my Dad and Clarice Mayne knew each other, because i haven't yet discovered a show in which they worked together. However, my Dad did do something (quite a lot of somethings, I think) with Julian Wylie. Off the top of my head, I can't remember what. Back to the books again. While you're looking things up, could you see if there's anything on Bertram DENCH. I think it's unlikely, but you never know. Right, off to type up some entries from the Who's Who ... Cheers -- Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > Hi Pam, Chris has quite a bit for you on your James.W.Tate here is what is > in the book I have, > "Clarice Mayne was also something quite apart.She was the perfect principal > boy;to see her entrance as"Prince Charming"in the ballroom scene of > Cinderella,clad in black and silver,her truly lovely legs in silken > tights,all of her sparkling with silver lace and diamonds,(none brighter > than her own smile)was to understand what a principal boy and pantomine > should be. Her carriage and deportment were amazing,she walked indeed as a > Prince of Fairyland should walk,and an attractive husky voice,combined with > perfect diction,made her a great singer of songs. > On the halls she was a double act,the other half being her husband,the late > James.W.Tate,who was always referred to as"That". He composed the songs and > accompanied her on the piano and his clever by play and facial expression as > he made silent love to her,was real artistry. The by-play was never allowed > to interfere with the songs,but at the end of the last one,she would flash a > smile of invitation to"That"and he would rise from the piano,his face one > huge smile,put his tie straight,stick his hands in his pocket and swagger > off,the complete picture of the triumphant male. > The songs that these two consummate artists gave to music hall hold a place > still,such songs as"I was a good Little Girl till I met you";"I'm Looking > For Someone To Love Me" and "Joshua"for example.Tate died in 1922,a victim > of overwork,his great achievement uncompleted. He was a partner with Julian > Wylie in pantomine productions and to his own dying day,Julian Wylie never > produced a pantomine unless he had some of Jimmie Tate's music in it;he kept > his memory green to the last. Clarice Mayne is married again,and happily,to > that splendid comedian,Teddie Knox.But though she no longer performs,she is > still the same gracious lady of charm,whose songs will always be > remembered". > > Hope you enjoy this little insight into these two lovely people as much as I > did, > Carole in Cold Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Hillier" <pamhillier@iprimus.com.au> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > Hi Carole, > > Pam from Adelaide Australia here....anything on Clarice Mayne and James > > W.Tate would be much appreciated by myself and my genie cousin........ > > > > every tit bit helps. > > > > Regards and thanks for the nice offer. > > Pam from Adelaide > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: 19 February 2003 00:38 > > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > I made this offer some time ago and I am repeating as per Dave's > > suggestion. > > > I have a rather battered copy of the above book which I am willing to do > > look-ups from. > > > The Melodies Linger On,the story of Music Hall by W.MACQUEEN-POPE,pb > > W.H.Allen,London app; 1950 > > > Carole Cumber,Canada. > > > > > > >

Pam > anything on Clarice Mayne and James > W.Tate would be much appreciated by myself and my genie cousin........ I wonder if you've got this (from the booklet with the Hyperion recording of "The Maid of the Mountains"): Born in Wolverhampton, the son of a publican, James William Tate (1875 - 1922) was the eldest brother of the operatic soprano Maggie Teyte. In 1902 he had married Jose Collins's mother, the dancer-singer Lottie Collins (1865 - 1910). After Lottie Collins's death, he married Clarice Mayne, and served as her accompanist in a variety act known as "Clarice Mayne and 'That'". [During the production of "The Maid"], Tate wired his lyricist partners Frank Clifford Harris (1875 - 1949) and 'Valentine' (Archibald Thomas Pechey, 1876 - 1961), to join him in Manchester. Altogether Tate and his lyricists added four songs of which three ("My life my love", "A bachelor gay" and "A paradise for two") became outstanding hits... The show's success was something which none of its participants could hope to repeat. James W Tate lived only a short time longer, dying in Stoke-on-Trent on 5th December 1922, aged 46, of pneumonia caught while travelling the country with his touring reviews. And if the name "Pechey" sounds vaguely familiar to those of us in the UK, it's because Valentine's daughter was called Phyllis Nan Ortain Primrose-Pechey. Rather better known as TV cook extraordinaire of the 1950s and 60s, Fanny Cradock. Chris -- Chris Goddard Plymouth, U.K www.webrarian.co.uk

Hi Lauren, Sorry nothing on your Birch family at all,but I will keep an eye open for them, Carole. ----- Original Message ----- From: <HubieBirch@aol.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > Hi Carole > > Taking you up on the offer, dont know if there is anythng there but here > goes. > > Looking for any Birches, My Gramps Harry Birch was a Music Hall Artiste in > the 1910s, married my Gran Lillian in 1913, At this time they were Pierrots > in Blackpool, Lancs. Then they had a "comedy Sketch" between 1913 and 1915, > I do know they did the circuit in the North East. By 1915 Gramps was > enlisted. After the WW1 when he came out in 1919, he then joined probably > yet again, W H Broadheads company. Where he was a musician (banjoist) and > then with the same company a Musical Director/conductor. His Father Arthur > Birch, did practically the same, but he might have been more well known in > Manchester, mostly the Hipprodrome. > > Any thing at all you very kindly find about "Jazzy" Harry Birch, Arthur > Birch, or my Gramps Brother Hubie Birch would be very much appreciated. > > Many thanks Lauren >

Hi Pam, Chris has quite a bit for you on your James.W.Tate here is what is in the book I have, "Clarice Mayne was also something quite apart.She was the perfect principal boy;to see her entrance as"Prince Charming"in the ballroom scene of Cinderella,clad in black and silver,her truly lovely legs in silken tights,all of her sparkling with silver lace and diamonds,(none brighter than her own smile)was to understand what a principal boy and pantomine should be. Her carriage and deportment were amazing,she walked indeed as a Prince of Fairyland should walk,and an attractive husky voice,combined with perfect diction,made her a great singer of songs. On the halls she was a double act,the other half being her husband,the late James.W.Tate,who was always referred to as"That". He composed the songs and accompanied her on the piano and his clever by play and facial expression as he made silent love to her,was real artistry. The by-play was never allowed to interfere with the songs,but at the end of the last one,she would flash a smile of invitation to"That"and he would rise from the piano,his face one huge smile,put his tie straight,stick his hands in his pocket and swagger off,the complete picture of the triumphant male. The songs that these two consummate artists gave to music hall hold a place still,such songs as"I was a good Little Girl till I met you";"I'm Looking For Someone To Love Me" and "Joshua"for example.Tate died in 1922,a victim of overwork,his great achievement uncompleted. He was a partner with Julian Wylie in pantomine productions and to his own dying day,Julian Wylie never produced a pantomine unless he had some of Jimmie Tate's music in it;he kept his memory green to the last. Clarice Mayne is married again,and happily,to that splendid comedian,Teddie Knox.But though she no longer performs,she is still the same gracious lady of charm,whose songs will always be remembered". Hope you enjoy this little insight into these two lovely people as much as I did, Carole in Cold Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Hillier" <pamhillier@iprimus.com.au> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > Hi Carole, > Pam from Adelaide Australia here....anything on Clarice Mayne and James > W.Tate would be much appreciated by myself and my genie cousin........ > > every tit bit helps. > > Regards and thanks for the nice offer. > Pam from Adelaide > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cumber" <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 19 February 2003 00:38 > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] "The Melodies Linger On" > > > > Hello everyone, > > I made this offer some time ago and I am repeating as per Dave's > suggestion. > > I have a rather battered copy of the above book which I am willing to do > look-ups from. > > The Melodies Linger On,the story of Music Hall by W.MACQUEEN-POPE,pb > W.H.Allen,London app; 1950 > > Carole Cumber,Canada. > > >

Hi Just to say I have been recently started looking on because of a possible theatrical link with my wife's family On the 1881 census William Stephen Power with his wife Jane (nee Paget) are listed as actors although I cannot find references to this later although his son also William Stephen is also supposed to have been in the theatre and is according to family legend related to Jill Summers of Coranation St fame If anybody happens across any of these names I would be grateful for any info Phil Dumfries MLFHS 12583 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003

Hi Carole Taking you up on the offer, dont know if there is anythng there but here goes. Looking for any Birches, My Gramps Harry Birch was a Music Hall Artiste in the 1910s, married my Gran Lillian in 1913, At this time they were Pierrots in Blackpool, Lancs. Then they had a "comedy Sketch" between 1913 and 1915, I do know they did the circuit in the North East. By 1915 Gramps was enlisted. After the WW1 when he came out in 1919, he then joined probably yet again, W H Broadheads company. Where he was a musician (banjoist) and then with the same company a Musical Director/conductor. His Father Arthur Birch, did practically the same, but he might have been more well known in Manchester, mostly the Hipprodrome. Any thing at all you very kindly find about "Jazzy" Harry Birch, Arthur Birch, or my Gramps Brother Hubie Birch would be very much appreciated. Many thanks Lauren

Neal - just seen you kind offer - can you please look up for me. Daisy Dormer (Kezia Jee nee Stockwell) and Albert Jee - or more likely Egbert Brothers Thanks Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Dench" <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] Re: Lookups - 1930 Who's Who........ > Hi Stan, > > Sorry, no mention of either Dorothy or Mildred Langley. > > Cheers > > -- > Neal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Langley" <stan.langley@klmatrix.co.uk> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:59 AM > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Re: Lookups - 1930 Who's Who........ > > > > Neal, > > Thankyou for your kind offer re lookups. Would very much > appreciate > > details of any reference to Dorothy Langley and/or Mildred Langley. > > > > Stan Langley - West Norfolk (U.K.) > > > > >

Hi Sue, There's a website that might interest you for Circus, Theatre and Music Hall families. http://www.greatallied.fsnet.co.uk Probably saw it on this website - chuckle!!!!! Regards Pam from Adelaide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Rowbotham" <sue@rowbos.demon.co.uk> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 18 February 2003 05:12 Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] Lookups > Neal > > Thanks for kind offer. Does 'Whos Who' list just pure theatrical people, or > does it cover people in other performing arts? For example I am interested > in magicians/illusionists, circus entertainers and professional singers !!! > An eclectic mix ! > > Many thanks > > Sue Rowbotham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Neal Dench <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 17 February 2003 06:05 > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Lookups > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > It's been a quiet list lately. > > > > I've just managed to pick up a 1930 edition of Who's Who in the Theatre > (6th > > Ed) by John Parker, published by Pitman. I know someone else on the list > has > > offered to do lookups from another old edition, but different editions of > > books like these can vary quite a bit with new and updated information. So > > if anyone would like me to do lookups for them, I'm more than happy to -- > > just drop me a line. > > > > I have also borrowed, and am busily scanning, a whole bunch of theatrical > > pictures from my Mum. As well as including pictures of my own family > > (primarily my Dad, but also my Mum and her father), this obviously > includes > > dozens of pictures of other people in the theatre. Sadly, many are > > unidentified at the moment, but I know the names of just as many. > > > > Once I've finished scanning (there's a lot to go!), I'll catalogue all the > > names I have, and I'm happy to pass on photos to anyone that's interested. > I > > also hope to put up a sort of rogues gallery of unidentified faces on the > > web at some point. All this might take a long time, so in the meantime, if > > anyone has a relative that they know worked with either Bertram DENCH, > > Stella DIXON, or Paul DIXON (or possibly Paul HEATON -- same person, > > different stage name), drop me a line. > > > > All the best everyone > > > > -- > > Neal Dench > > >

Hi folks, Now that Neal has managed to create a little traffic, perhaps those of you who have sources you are willing to use to help others could remind us of just what you've got. Anyone who has searched the Theatre-UK website and been informed that the search was unsuccessful may just want to try again. The search engine had been searching the *old* now non-existent website. I've chastised myself severely and corrected the problem. Best wishes, Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources I have, Visit Gen-Links at - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html

Hello everyone, I made this offer some time ago and I am repeating as per Dave's suggestion. I have a rather battered copy of the above book which I am willing to do look-ups from. The Melodies Linger On,the story of Music Hall by W.MACQUEEN-POPE,pb W.H.Allen,London app; 1950 Carole Cumber,Canada.

Hi everyone! Gosh, that certainly got things going! Just to offset the ream of "sorry, no entry" emails I'm about to send, I just thought I'd write to say that I have found entries for Joseph CAWTHORN and Edna MAY, but I just don't have time to type them up just at the moment. I'll do them in the next day or so. Cheers -- Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Dench" <ndench@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Lookups > Hi everyone, > > It's been a quiet list lately...