Hello everyone again. I ought to have added that the books they scan are borrowed from various sources, some of them being very expensive.So if anyone out there feels they have a book worth scanning, and would not mind it being done, to contact them. It is a good way of sharing the knowledge with other researchers. Gillian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Bark" <Jill.Bark@Ntlworld.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] CD Books > Hello everyone. I have discovered a site that is all about scanning books (e.g. KELLYS DIRECTORIES etc) and putting them on CD. It is non profit making. The books do not have to be pressed down as you would when using a photo copier so they get gentle handling. If any of you would be interested in buying the CDs the address to contact is CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com putting subscribe as the main body of the message. To contact he administrator of the list the address is CDBOOKS-NEWS-admin@rootsweb.com . I have checked this out with Dave Jassie before sending this message to you all and he has purchased some of the CDs. Happy researching, Gillian Bark. > >

Hello List I have today received four playbills, re John Latimer's Mammoth Theatre and he was also manager/Lessee of the Theatres Royal in Stafford, Litchfield, Shrewsbury and Stourbridge. Dated March and April 1856 Names of people in the cast Mr Campbell Mrs Campbell Mr Davenport Mrs Davenport Mr J. Matthews Mrs Matthews Mr Eddy Mrs Eddy Mr Jones Mr O'Neil Mr Reader Mr Barker Mr Jarvis Mr Radford Mr Jacks Mr Thompson Mrs Thompson Mr J Wood Mrs Wood Mr R Ford Mrs Latimer Miss A Latimer Miss F Latimer Mr James Mr Linforth Mr Carter Mr Green Mr Sinclar They were appearing at the Theatre Royal Wrexham, and the Mammoth Theatre, plays entitled:- False Accusation, Wooden Walls, Alice Gray, Chirk Castle, many of these plays seemed to go by two names, it also advertised a Herr Schmidt, the Strongest Man in the World, it does'nt say who Herr Schmidt really is. regards Rita Robinson kindal01@telkomsa.net

Hello everyone. I have discovered a site that is all about scanning books (e.g. KELLYS DIRECTORIES etc) and putting them on CD. It is non profit making. The books do not have to be pressed down as you would when using a photo copier so they get gentle handling. If any of you would be interested in buying the CDs the address to contact is CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com putting subscribe as the main body of the message. To contact he administrator of the list the address is CDBOOKS-NEWS-admin@rootsweb.com . I have checked this out with Dave Jassie before sending this message to you all and he has purchased some of the CDs. Happy researching, Gillian Bark.

Thanks for your help. Hilary Carole Cumber wrote: >Sorry no,not in either of my reference books, >kind regards, >Carole in Canada. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hilary Rogers" <hilary@genesisproductions.com.au> >To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:40 PM >Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] Gertie WINN > > > > >>Carole, >>Would your music hall book also contain references to pantomimes? If so >>could you please look up Gertie WINN? She was principal boy in Leeds >>pantos in the early 1900's. >>Thank you very much. >>Hilary >>Brisbane, Australia >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >

Carole, Would your music hall book also contain references to pantomimes? If so could you please look up Gertie WINN? She was principal boy in Leeds pantos in the early 1900's. Thank you very much. Hilary Brisbane, Australia

Sorry no,not in either of my reference books, kind regards, Carole in Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Rogers" <hilary@genesisproductions.com.au> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] Gertie WINN > Carole, > Would your music hall book also contain references to pantomimes? If so > could you please look up Gertie WINN? She was principal boy in Leeds > pantos in the early 1900's. > Thank you very much. > Hilary > Brisbane, Australia > > > >

Would they have anything to do with Sir Augustus HARRIS?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin" <kristn@globalnet.co.uk> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:37 AM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Re: New book > Carole, would it be possible to see if there is any reference to the HARRIS > sisters who performed from the 1870's for a while? Their father on one > occasion hired a theatre especially for them. > > Thankyou. Kristin. > >

Still seeking details about the Boswell Circus family especially Clara BOSWELL who married FREDERICK ISAAC CATTLE 30th OCT 1878 Hanley Co Stafford. Ult looking for FREDERICK ISAAC CATTLE's FATHER data. FREDERICK ISAAC CATTLE said his birth was London in about 1849 Rob

Thanks anyway, but I wont give up. Lilian Fraser nee REAVELEY

Sorry nothing in either of my books, regards, Carole. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LilianFrs@aol.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] ARE THESE FOLK IN THE BOOK? > Is there anything in your book about the Javel Group. I know at one time they > were in the north East of England and I thing they were Abrobats and dancers. > > Thanks > Lilian Fraser nee REAVELEY > Still trying to find anything on your site about FW REAVELEY and Bessie > Ball(this was her stage name)/Elizabeth Holland and Arthur/Ted Ball. Arthur > was Elizabeths Father and manager. > >

The only LATIMER I found was an actor Henry Latimer. And much about a MARIE KENDAL but no Lottie. regards, Carole. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robinson" <kindal01@telkomsa.net> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Look ups > Hello Carole > Many thanks for the offer of look ups. > Please could you look up the following for me, not all Music Hall, but you > never know what you may find > > LATIMER > ELDERSHAW > EBLEY > DENVILLE > HORACE LIONEL > LOTTIE KENDAL > GEORGE KENDAL > > Kind regards > Rita > kindal01@telkomsa.net > > >

Sorry no luck finding any of these, regards, Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <STUDIOLLIJ@aol.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:01 AM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] ARE THESE FOLK IN THE BOOK? > Hello Carole, > > Just wondered if any of the following may appear in your book? > > LILIAN CAVANNAH may have been spelt with a 'K'(christened WISEMAN) > Burlesque dancer/actress from about 1890. > JOHN either DUNLOP or KINGSBURY (singer, appeared in GREAT YARMOUTH possibly > from 1890 -1920) > HARRY ROYAL (HOCKETT) entertainer pre the 1st W.W. > ELIZABETH UNWIN Opera singer with the CARL ROSA COMPANY (after 1900) may > have married but I don't know her married name. > > Thank you for your kind offer, > REGARDS, > JILL > >

Thanks for trying Carole. Maybe I'll find her one day. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Cumber <cdcumber@sprint.ca> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] New Book > Sorry no luck finding a reference to Madam Rolls(Rowles) or Marge Watson. > kind regards, > Carole > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Walkers" <marbri@chariot.net.au> > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:12 AM > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] New Book > > > > Carole, > > > > Thanks for the offer of a look up. Could you please see if there is any > > mention of a Madam Rolls (or Rowles) who was a pianist around the turn of > > the century. Her name was Madge Watson and we believe she married someone > > Rolls. > > > > Ever hopeful, Brian in Adelaide, South Australia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carole Cumber <cdcumber@sprint.ca> > > To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:41 AM > > Subject: [THEATRE-UK] New Book > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > Thanks for the kind words from Lauren and welcome again Marje,and a big > > hello to Neal,I finally have found an old copy of "British Music Hall"by > > Raymond Mander and Joe Mitchenson and I have to say I am facinated by the > > pictures and captions,spans the 1850's through to 1900's.Not a lot on my > > ancestor "Bessie Bellwood" but anyone wanting a look up let me know. > > > Some more bad news about my search for information on Bessie,when in > > England in 1985 I was shown several pictures of Bessie by a cousin who had > > found them in our Grandmothers effects,when I asked "who is Bessie > > Bellwood"I was told that she was "a distant relative possibly a cousin"of > > Grans. > > > Several years ago when I started to trace the family connection I > > contacted my cousin and asked if I could get copies of the pictures > > > which as I remember were signed,no reply and I have asked several times > > since finding that Bessie was our Great Grandmothers sister,finally this > > week I received word from another cousin that the pictures were "given > away" > > in 1987 and copies were never made!!! I will continue to search in the > hopes > > that someone somewhere has other pictures of "Bessie". > > > In the meantime if anyone wants a lookup let me know< > > > Carole in Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Carole, Many thanks for the information about the Preeces and their music hall(s). Carol A. Preece

Carole, would it be possible to see if there is any reference to the HARRIS sisters who performed from the 1870's for a while? Their father on one occasion hired a theatre especially for them. Thankyou. Kristin.

Is there anything in your book about the Javel Group. I know at one time they were in the north East of England and I thing they were Abrobats and dancers. Thanks Lilian Fraser nee REAVELEY Still trying to find anything on your site about FW REAVELEY and Bessie Ball(this was her stage name)/Elizabeth Holland and Arthur/Ted Ball. Arthur was Elizabeths Father and manager.

Hello Carole, Just wondered if any of the following may appear in your book? LILIAN CAVANNAH may have been spelt with a 'K'(christened WISEMAN) Burlesque dancer/actress from about 1890. JOHN either DUNLOP or KINGSBURY (singer, appeared in GREAT YARMOUTH possibly from 1890 -1920) HARRY ROYAL (HOCKETT) entertainer pre the 1st W.W. ELIZABETH UNWIN Opera singer with the CARL ROSA COMPANY (after 1900) may have married but I don't know her married name. Thank you for your kind offer, REGARDS, JILL

Carole, Is there anything on Beaumont Read (alias James) Music Halls GB 1870-1889 Then America and Australia Robyn Robyn Walton All outgoing mail is screened by Norton prior to sending

At 08:45 AM 17/03/2003, you wrote: >I am a new subscriber & am trying to find any information - especially >Christian name - of: >Mr Taylor. >I have a cutting from The London Times dated November 7th 1805. >Mr Taylor is mentioned. The news of Nelson's Victory/ Death must have just >been received because the cast did a ' hasty but elegant compliment to the >memory of Nelson'. Hi Shirley, Mr Taylor may be Tom (T.P) Taylor. He was co manager of Sadler's Wells with one of my husband's ancestors (William Rogers) in 1836-37. Tom, like William and many others of their ilk was an actor, playwright and sometimes Theatre manager. They are mentoned in the book "The Story of Sadler's Wells 1683-1964" by Dennis Arundell published in 1965. Mary Bendigo Australia <mairibeth@iprimus.com.au> http://home.iprimus.com.au/mairibeth/

Thanks Bob but I have almost everything there is to know about the Grimaldis, including painted likenesses. I have several books written about Joey (clowns are called Joeys after him!) including one by Charles Dickens. The family tree is also very questionable by not taking into account the number of illegitimate offspring sired by Joey's father, even into his 7o's. One brother disappeared when he was twelve, he ran away to join the navy. He re-appeared when Joey was appearing at one of the many London theatres, stayed for one hour, left never to be seen again. Not by his brother at any rate. There are so many people claiming to be descended from "the" Grimaldis, including my grandmother who said he was a second or third cousin. I have yet to discover whether this was the truth or wishful thinking on her part. Just one thing makes me think that it might be true is the remarkable likeness of one of my cousins to another Grimaldi claimant whom we met at the annual Grimaldi Memorial service at a church in Dalston. The church is always full of clowns in their gear. Very colourful! Another thing is the amazing number of "actresses & actors" in my mother's family. I was the only one to finish up on stage, in opera, but the others were drama kings & queens at home! They all had a great sense of humour, too. I might have to wait till I get to "the other side" before I know the truth but I still keep trying......... Cheers Josi http://pavitts.tripod.com/ The PAVITTS of Essex & NZ PAVITT Essex (Stanford Rivers area) & London SMITH Essex (Theydon Mount) and Gloucester MUMFORD Essex (Stanford Rivers area) GRIMALDI Joseph,(the Clown) London. List Admin PAVITT-L-request@rootsweb.com . Subscriber to THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". Protected by Panda Antivirus Titanium ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanders, Robert (DfTE - LLD1b)" <Robert.Sanders@wales.gsi.gov.uk> To: "'Josephine Kemper'" <joandjo@walhalla.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [THEATRE-UK] New Book > Josi > > I cannot be certain but I think there may be a picture of Grimaldi in > Harmsworths Encycopaedia of about 1920s. I will look when I go home. There > is certainly a family tree of the Grimaldi family (well if my memory isn't > playing tricks !) > > Regards > > Bob Sanders > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josephine Kemper [mailto:joandjo@walhalla.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: 15 March 2003 20:09 > To: THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [THEATRE-UK] New Book > > > Ray & Joe housed their amazing collection of theatrical memorabilia in an > Edwardian house in Sydenham. I went there to visit them once, to ask what > they had about Joseph Grimaldi (an 'ancestor' of mine, allegedly) and one of > them told me I had a look of Grimaldi. Has anyone ever SEEN a picture of > Grimaldi???? Paper bag over the head for a week! > They were promised the top floor of The Mansion in Beckenham Place Park, now > a Golf centre, but sadly one of them died before they could move in. Then > they discovered that the glass roof was leaking badly and by the time that > was repaired the other one had died. Altogether a very sad story. I was very > privileged to meet them. > > The Mander & Mitchenson Theatre Collection is one of the finest collections > of theatre memorabilia in the world. Based on the personal collection of two > actors, Raymond Mander and Joe Mitchenson, it contains a wide-range of > primary sources for the study of theatre history and music in all its > connections with the theatre, and also functions as a picture library. > > As a matter of interest, searching for Mander & Mitchenson on Google throws > up a large amount of other leads in theatre research. > > Cheers > Josi