Forwarded at the request of Kim - Hello Everyone This email is just to let you all know that the UK Schools History website is finally back on line. Some of you may remember the old site which went down in 2001 and you will find that the new one will follow exactly the same principals in that I will be collecting as many photographs as possible of school buildings from around the UK and as much historical information as possible to accompany them. The new site will differ slightly to the old one in that I am now able to accept information connected to a school even if you don't have a photograph available at present. And this time you won't have to wait for a full page of photographs to download to be able to view the ones that you are looking for. I'm sure with that if I receive half as much support as I did last time then the new site will be a great success and hopefully a valuable resource for everyone. Please send any photographs/information that you have to kim.bewick@ntlworld.com. And to view the site please follow the link below. Very Best wishes Kim http://chrisb.4ce.co.uk/schools_site/index.php

Thank you Ann, The Denville company did put on the above play. According to some family members Alfred Denville tried to get the copyright for the play, which he believed his stepfather William Latimer had written, this was after William Latimer had died, Alfred believe that because William had not been dead for 50 years he could stop people staging the play without his permission, I don't know if anything came of his actions. I have a friend in England who is willing to do some research for me, so she may come across something of interest. regards Rita

Forwarded Just for fun Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "kerry Prentice" <kerryprentice@btinternet.com> To: <LONDON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: [Lon] Hockey Cokey............. > With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the > moment, it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important > person which almost went unnoticed last week. Larry LaPRISE, > the man who wrote the song "The Hokey Cokey," died peacefully > at age 93. The most traumatic part for his family was getting > him into the coffin. > > They put his left leg in -- and then the trouble started > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "twohills" <twohills@hypermax.net.au> > To: <LONDON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:40 PM > Subject: [Lon] Calling Blinky Bill!! > > > Hello! > Can you please send me your paragraph about Hoke Pokey. We have some old > friends who would appreciate the humour and I hit the delete button by > mistake!! Senior moment - OFF list of course! > Best wishes Pat > > > ==== LONDON Mailing List ==== > Don't return copies of complete mails to the list when > replying, but edit them down to the relevant passage.... > > > > > ==== LONDON Mailing List ==== > London-Middlesex Surnames List: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html >

Got a mystery guy in my family tree and wondered if anyone on the list knew of him. James SPRY-PALMER is the name in family folklore. He was a musician & composer of "popular" tunes and I have some sheet music entitled "Tell Me You Are Mine" copyright J Spry-Palmer, 17 George St, London NW1. No date. Its also marked Regis Trademark SPRY-PAL 389899 I cannot find this man on either the 1881 or 1901 census. James had a relationship with Selina BINDING of Horfield, Bristol (born 1865) which resulted in the birth of a daughter Mary Ann, in about 1896. Date uncertain as the child's birth was not registered. In the 1901 census Selina was still living in as a servant and little Mary Ann (later known as May) was with a foster mother, but later Selina and James set up home together but didn't marry, and were still in the Bristol area in the early 1950's. Any suggestions welcomed Marion in Wiltshire

For Rita, I saw your message about John Latimer a while ago and then came across the following so I thought I would post it to the list. I'm reading a book called 'Dan Leno and the Limehouse Golem' by Peter Ackroyd which is a novel (I think!) but based upon some real events in London about 1880. On p178 it says 'He (Dan) knew that Gertie Latimer was about to put on Maria Marten, or the Murder in the Red Barn as her new horror at the Bell in Limehouse...'. Don't think this helps at all with John Latimer's origins but it might indicate that the family were in London later on. Incidentally, Maria Marten was one of the plays my husband's grandmother (Ellen Sophia Roberts/Wallett), performed in, probably when she was with the Denville company. Ann

Hi folks, David Giles-Probert has been busily scanning photos, etc. and I have now added them to Gallery 2. Best wishes, Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources I have, Visit Gen-Links at - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html

From: "John Bancroft" <john.bancroft@ntlworld.com> (not a subscriber) I'm researching the history of Charles Richard Stone (b Brighton 1853), a theatrical manager, actor, comedian. He was married to Emily (b Steep, Hampshire 1852), an actress. The 1901 census lists three of their six children as actors - Ernest M. (b Portsmouth 1877), Edith (b Brighton 1879) and Daisy (b Liverpool 1884). C.R. Stone is listed in Ganzel's The British Musical Theatre. He topped the bill in the 1903 production of What Became of Mrs Racket?, acting with her daughter Daisy. I would be pleased to find any further information about this branch of the Stone family. Best wishes Susan Bancroft

----- Original Message ----- From: <THEATRE-UK-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: THEATRE-UK-D Digest V03 #12

Hi folks, It never ceases to amaze me that we manage to attract such helpful and wonderful people to our list. David Giles-Probert has offered to look up information for his fellow subscribers from the sources detailed below. Please though, be patient as he is very busy and will reply as soon as possible. David says - "I have in my collection of genealogical reference books, The Kinematograph Year Book for 1938. I don't know if you are familiar with this book, but it contains about every Cinema in the UK, with information as to the managers of them, the films that were registered in 1937, both UK and International - yes UFA is mentioned quite freely. There is a section on the Film Studios Legal Case, and many more useful genealogical facts." He adds that he will do lookups from it provided you have a particular area in mind, i.e. Birmingham, London etc. Also - "I have a BBC Year Book 1949, this is in no way as comprehensive as the 1938 Kine Book. However it contains quite a few photos of Artistes and producers. I am not sure as to the effects and Laws of Copyright that this book would come under, but there are useful facts within the works, and I could do look ups within it. The pictures would be an asset to the site. If I ever get the time to do it, I will make a note of all photos within the book for fellow listers interest. I also have a few Whittakers Almanacs, namely, 1935,1944, 1948, 1970, 1972, 1978, 1981 and 1997. The earlier ones may help listers" The copyright issue is tricky, but I would suggest that requests for lookups should be made privately to David at ~ research69@giles2222.fsnet.co.uk I would also suggest that David could reply to the list if the information is of general interest. Best wishes, Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources I have, Visit Gen-Links at - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html

I wonder if anybody might be able to help me trace anything about Lilian McGowan (1890-1927) Lilian was an acrobatic dancer from circa 1905 to 1913 ...she was forced to retire in 1913 due to an injury. Lilian used the stage name of "Lily Flexmore" (honest) and he is known to have performed at the Palace, Blackpool, in 1911 and again in 1913. Part of her performance was a dance called "Bite my Toe Dance". It is said that she travelled a great deal, in particular around Germany. Any detail, however, small, really would be appreciated.

Hi folks, Josephine wrote ~ Hi Dave At last I can find the address of Evergreen Magazine. I saw it once and loved it. Then it went A.W.O.L. <snipped> You've made my day Josephine Although I would love to take the credit for all the hard work that is put into publishing the Whirligig Newsletter, I think I should point out that it is all down to Terry Guntrip (who I am sure would love to hear these nice comments.) So, if anyone finds something useful or interesting in the newsletter, why not let him know. Cheers, Dave ********************************************* Typos are not typos they are actually genealogical alternate spellings, while poor grammar is added for interest *********************************************

Hi Dave At last I can find the address of Evergreen Magazine. I saw it once and loved it. Then it went A.W.O.L. I am told that Evergreen Magazine will be featuring Mrs Dale's Diary in a future issue. They have also recently released the first of a series of CDs containing old TV and Radio Theme tunes. Visit them at: http://www.thisengland.co.uk/everhome.htm : You've made my day Josephine =================================================================== As usual, if you think of anything that is missing or incorrect, have any more information about the programmes featured or just want to share your memories, do drop me a line to terry@whirligig-tv.co.uk Alternatively place them on the Message Board which I monitor daily at: http://go.ezboard.com/bwhirligigtv That's about it for now. See you again next month! Terry Guntrip (aka Mr. Turnip) http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk http://www.TurnipNet.com -------------------------------------------------------- See the "What's New" Pages at: http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/whatsnew.htm http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/whatsnew.htm with links to all new major updates or use the A TO Z SITE INDEX at: http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/siteindex.htm http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/siteindex.htm --------------------------------------------------------

Greetings Whirligigers! You registered to be informed of updates to the WHIRLIGIG 1950's BRITISH TV AND RADIO NOSTALGIA site. January 2003 Newsletter. The regular dose of new video clips this month features a bit of a mixture: Firstly there is a clip from "The Army Game", a highly popular ITV series of the late 50's about a gang of peacetime soldiers in constant pursuit of easy money and ways of outwitting their fiery Sergeant-Major. http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/armygame/armygame.htm Then there are two related clips which cover the presentation of election results from 1955 and also the first outing for the "Swingometer" on TV. Robert McKenzie was the Canadian born politics professor who talked about the political impact of the election results as they came in. He also invented the graphic which came to symbolise television coverage of elections, and is still in use today: the swingometer, a pendulum attached to a chart illustrating the House of Commons outcome at each point of swing. You can find the two clips here: http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/other/panorama.htm There is also a new Sooty clip which features a bit of a fight between Sooty and Muffin The Mule. Harry Corbett has to intervene, as usual, to prevent mayhem ensuing! http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/sooty/sooty.htm Finally there is a clip from "What's My Line?". Eamonn Andrews is introducing his first guest but it's anyone's guess what his mime represents! http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/quiz/whatsmyline.htm I am now rapidly coming to the end of the stored up video clips for new release. There will be some new ones next month but after that I will be reliant upon good people like yourselves for donations from any old video tapes you may have stored away and forgotten about. There are two new audio clips on the TV site this month. Firstly, the signature tune from "Children's Newsreel" and secondly the theme tune for "Sports Report": http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/other/other.htm#The rest http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/sports/sports.htm On the radio site the additions include the Mrs Dale's Diary signature tune plus a lot of new pictures, on the same page, courtesy of Aline Waites who played Gwen in the serial for many years. http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk.radio/mrsdalesdiary.htm I am told that Evergreen Magazine will be featuring Mrs Dale's Diary in a future issue. They have also recently released the first of a series of CDs containing old TV and Radio Theme tunes. Visit them at: http://www.thisengland.co.uk/everhome.htm : I have also added a new audio clip from "Take It From Here" which introduced the Glums. Mr. Glum, a loudmouthed boor (Jimmy Edwards) presided over a household consisting of his ever-absent wife (nothing but a distant voice, very obviously that of Edwards himself in non-visual drag), his son Ron, who was not even one degree removed from utter idiocy, and was played with sublime incoherence by Dick Bentley, and Ron's fiancée Eth (June Whitfield, a magnificent radio comédienne) whose famous catch-phrase was a plaintive Oh Ron! Each week, poor Eth was foiled in her attempts to rise to a richer and happier life by the utter opacity of Ron (Give us a kiss, Eth!), and the cupidity of his father. Time after time, just as she seemed to have coaxed Ron into some more or less gallant display of wooden affection, Mr. Glum would burst in with his 'Ullo, Ullo, Ullo ...?' as though seduction was imminent - when it was all too plain that Ron only recognised one end of poor Eth from the other because it had feet on it. http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/tifh.htm There is also a new "Snippet" on the site about Horace Batchelor from Keynsham, Bristol and his Infra-Draw method for winning the pools. You can reminisce by listening to the Radio Luxembourg advertisement in full and also read letters from readers of The Times about their memories of the method and how they believed it worked (or didn't!): http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/memories/snippets/index.htm Horace's grandson, Simon, has already found this webpage and written to me asking if I have any more information about his Grandfather. Unfortunately I don't - so if anyone can help, let me know. The Message Board has a new chatroom feature where you can join in to talk about anything and everything '50s. See below for the link. =================================================================== As usual, if you think of anything that is missing or incorrect, have any more information about the programmes featured or just want to share your memories, do drop me a line to terry@whirligig-tv.co.uk Alternatively place them on the Message Board which I monitor daily at: http://go.ezboard.com/bwhirligigtv That's about it for now. See you again next month! Terry Guntrip (aka Mr. Turnip) http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk http://www.TurnipNet.com -------------------------------------------------------- See the "What's New" Pages at: http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/whatsnew.htm http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/whatsnew.htm with links to all new major updates or use the A TO Z SITE INDEX at: http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/siteindex.htm http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/siteindex.htm --------------------------------------------------------

Hi, Dave. I need to unsubscribe for a while, and can't find it on the Rootsweb site. Help, please?? Thankyou. Lorraine

Hi everyone, When I was looking through the list archives recently, I saw a message from someone that had a number of programmes dating from about 1928-1930 for a particular rep company. Whoever it was had gone to the trouble of listing all the names on those programmes for the benefit of list members. One of the names listed was Sidney DENCH*, who was my Uncle. I know very little about any of my Dad's family, so I'd be ever so grateful if I could get more details about this programme. Sorry to be vague about who sent the message and when. I'm rather hoping that sending this message will jog someone's memory, but if not, I'll search through the archives again and find the exact message. * There's just a chance that this Sidney Dench could be my grandfather, but I don't think so. In 1930, my grandfather -- also called Sidney -- would (I guess) have been approaching his 70s, whereas Uncle Sidney would have been in his 40s. Given that I have no idea what happened to either of them, it could be either of them mentioned in the programme really, but I'm guessing that my grandfather was more than likely retired by this time. Thanks everyone -- Neal Dench // ndench@tinyworld.co.uk

Hi folks, A couple of quickies ~ * For those of you who are unaware, there is a petition being sent to the government from the MU. This is about pubs having to have licenses now for Two in a Bar, affecting the likes of folk groups, jazz and even the Morris Men!! If you would like to read more about it and sign the petition please go to this address. Welcome to the (British) Musicians' Union * Would some person more knowledgeable than I (it's not much of a challenge!!) please post to the list details of the best places in London to look up information about the Theatre, Music Halls, etc. Dave

Hi folks, I have now included a second album in the website Gallery. All of these scans were very kindly sent to me by David Giles-Probert. I have included descriptions for some of them and will seek out information for the others as and when I have time. If anyone can help in this respect, please contact me privately Best wishes, Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources I have, Visit Gen-Links at - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html

Hi Dave The new gallery looks fabulous. Loads of new pictures. The old programs are great -- I especially like the one from Lady Windemere's Fan, where someone has scribbled in their opinions of the actors against the cast list. What a scream. Thanks for all the hard work you've put into this. -- Neal Dench // ndench@tinyworld.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jassie" <dave.jassie@ntlworld.com> To: <THEATRE-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: [THEATRE-UK] Website update > Hi folks, > I have made the following changes to the Theatre-UK website ~ > * A completely new look to the "Gallery" which now has thumbnail > links. > * All existing photos in the old Gallery have been moved. > * Neal Dench's submissions uploaded. > * The scans that were originally uploaded to "Dave's Green Room" are > now included in the Gallery. > Many of these have no description included, so if anyone can provide > these I would be extremely grateful. > Also, if you personally uploaded scans to the MSN Green Room and they > are not in the Gallery, please send them to me. > To access the Gallery, click on the "New Gallery" link near the bottom > of the page ~ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/theatre/ > Best wishes, > Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) > For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources > I have, > Visit Gen-Links at - > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html > >

Hi folks, I have made the following changes to the Theatre-UK website ~ * A completely new look to the "Gallery" which now has thumbnail links. * All existing photos in the old Gallery have been moved. * Neal Dench's submissions uploaded. * The scans that were originally uploaded to "Dave's Green Room" are now included in the Gallery. Many of these have no description included, so if anyone can provide these I would be extremely grateful. Also, if you personally uploaded scans to the MSN Green Room and they are not in the Gallery, please send them to me. To access the Gallery, click on the "New Gallery" link near the bottom of the page ~ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/theatre/ Best wishes, Dave Jassie - dave.jassie@ntlworld.com (List Administrator) For information regarding mailing lists, web sites and look-up resources I have, Visit Gen-Links at - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html

http://www.agnewsgallery.co.uk/pages/wc_lawrence_grist.html Hello I am new to this list. My Gr.Gr.Gr.Gr.Grandmother ELIZABETH NEVILL 1766-1830 of Nottingham dtr. of GILBERT NEVILL, surgeon and ELIZABETH HUNT m. 1752, had a daughter ANN NEVILL 1784-1863 Chr.1789 no father shown. Later Elizabeth m. THOMAS GRIST,and it is presumed that Ann was their child as when Ann m.1814 Dr.ALEXANDER MANSON M.DD.,F.R.S.E.1773-1840 One of their children had the name ALEXANDER THOMAS GRIST MANSON 1816-1856. Also Alexander Manson's brother, ROBERT MANSON, named his only child ANNE NEVILL GRIST MURRAY MANSON. Apparently David Garrick helped Thomas Grist . We are told that Thomas Grist had a daughter Harriett who was an actress. This suggests that he was married and unable to marry Elizabeth at the time of Ann's birth. We would be interested if any one knows of Harriet Grist and her mother. The above address has a portrait of Thomas Grist by Sir Thomas Lawrence . It is now sold so the picture may not stay there for long. If the person putting the theatre pictures on line is able to catch it before it disappears it would be good. Thank you from Eleanor in Sydney.