To all: Interesting discussions so far on Joanna, wife of Richard. I have seen three variations, listed in the subject of this message. Since I have no original source material on it - I guess Bob is taking the conservative approach - in that we ahve not really proved her last name. The sources (which have credibility) used in my home page for Joanna were: Concord Births, Marriages and Deaths - the Vital Records of Concord MA Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700 p. 732 - he does not, however, give her last name Death date from Boston Transcript, Number 9997, 29 Jan 1923. And Levi's Some Temple Pedigrees Also found in Albert Temple and Danny Smith's book. The Great Migration may include her, but does not include her with a last name. No Shepey or Shipley shows up. Having said all this, there are enough leanings towards Joanna's last name as either Shepey or Shipley that I have included it int he home page. As Case Zwart warned me when I started my TEMPLE genealogy, though - be careful of using Levi as a source. Since then, I have not found any source to be perfect. I am inclined to leave Joanna's names assigned in the database, but will chenge in a heartbeat if we get good documentation that disproves it. Since this has been looked at for so long, and given the number of professionals who have tried, I feel pretty certain this one will remain unresolved. Thanks for the nice words on the homepage - I hope it is helping get research on all our lines furthered. Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm