My line is from Abraham, Richard, Abraham, Richard b 1674, Benjamin bc 1708 poss. in Stow MA and his wife Hannah whose maiden name I've been searching for these many years, along with Sylvia. Benjamin's son Seth b Feb 21 1753 in Shrewbury MA married Martha Hunt (daughter of Samuel and Sarah Kimball Hunt) May 24 1783 in Charlemont MA (later Heath) and died Jan 22 1824 in Heath, Franklin Co. MA. Seth Jr. was born Oct 10 1787 in Heath and married Julia Porter (daughter of Elisha and Elinor Weld Porter) March 2 1814 in Heath and died in Williamstown MA Aug 31 1856. Their daughter Julia was born Aug 22 1819 in Williamstown MA and married John Lindley Jr. Apr 6 1854; they are my great grandparents. I have a great deal of information on this branch of the family should anyone be interested Helga Andrews, Sudbury MA p.s. I guess what I should have said to Sandy was I believe Debrett is right, not the ancestral file!