Hello Everyone: John F. TEMPLE (probably spelled the German way) immigrated in the mid-1800s. Of interest here is his son, Henry Frederic. Does anyone know any more about this band of TEMPLEs? Descendants of John F. TEMPLE - 15 Apr 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIRST GENERATION 1. John F. TEMPLE1 was born about 1800 in Germany. He immigrated in 1815 to NY.2 He Moved in 1852 in Chicago, Cook, IL.3 He died in 1905 in Chicago, Cook, IL. He was married to Cornelia MORRIS about 1840.4 Cornelia MORRIS5 died in 1855 in Utica, Oneida, NY. She was born in Utica, Oneida, NY. John F. TEMPLE and Cornelia MORRIS had the following children: 2 i. Morris D. TEMPLE was born in Utica, Oneida, NY. He was a Manufacturer in Chicago, Cook, IL.6 +3 ii. Captain Henry Frederic TEMPLE. SECOND GENERATION 3. Captain Henry Frederic TEMPLE7 was born on 14 Sep 1840 in Utica, Oneida, NY. He Moved in 1852 in Chicago, Cook, IL.8 He was a Teacher between 1857 and 1859 in IL.9 He Moved in 1859 in KY.10 He was a Banker in 1859 in Burlington, Des Moines, IA.11 He was a Teacher between 1859 and 1861 in KY.12 He served in the military between 1861 and 1865.13 Enlisted as a private, receiving his commission as a lieutenant 6 months later. He served in the 21st Kentucky Regiment of Infantry for the Union. After the battle of Chickamauga he was made the adjutant general of Col. Stanley Matthews' brigade. He Moved in 1865 in Chicago, Cook, IL.14 He was a Manufacturer between 1865 and 1871 in Chicago, Cook, IL.15 Worked with his father and brother until the Great Chicago Fire. He Moved in 1874 in Chattanooga, Hamilton, TN.16 He was a Mayor of Chattanooga in 1879 in Chattanooga, Hamilton, TN.17 He was an Owner and founder, Chattanooga Furniture Company between 1893 and 1913 in Chattanooga, Hamilton, TN.18 One of the five men who built the incline railway up Lookout Mountain, where he also built his home. Had seven children, three of whom survived past 1913. He was married to Sarah A. EGAN (daughter of Dr. W.B. EGAN) on 29 Jan 1868 in Chicago, Cook, IL.19 Sarah A. EGAN20 was born in Chicago, Cook, IL. She died in Chattanooga, Hamilton, TN. Captain Henry Frederic TEMPLE and Sarah A. EGAN had the following children: 4 i. Morris E. TEMPLE21. 5 ii. Walter T. TEMPLE22. 6 iii. Cornelia E. TEMPLE23. SOURCES 1. Will T. Hale. A History of Tennessee and Tennesseans. The Lewis Publishing Comapny, Chicago, IL, 1913. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 2. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 3. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 4. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 5. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 6. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 7. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 8. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 9. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 10. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 11. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 12. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 13. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 14. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 15. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 16. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2143. 17. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. 18. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. 19. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. 20. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. 21. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. 22. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. 23. Ibid. Vol. VII, p. 2144. -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

Hello Once More: This time, I am searching for the descendants of John TEMPLE, from Aberdeen: Individual Summary - 15 Apr 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: John TEMPLE Sex: Male Father: Robert TEMPLE (abt 1795-) Mother: Christina ALLEN (-) Individual Facts Birth 3 Feb 1821 in Aberdeen, Scotland Immigration Apr 1843 in Canada (age 22) Moved Buffalo, Erie, NY (1848) (age 27) Moved Dayton, Montgomery, OH (Jul 1851) (age 30) Occupation Machinist and inventor Marriages/Children 1. Sarah Ann REDDICK Marriage 6 Apr 1853 (age 32) Notes Occupation4: In 1859, he patented the American Turbine Wheel, which was so successful as to maintain a virtual monopoly despite numerous attempts to copy it. In addition, he invented a number of other items for which he did not seek a patent. General5: Had three sons and one daughter; one son died in infancy. Sources 1. The Biographical Encyclopedia of Ohio of the Nineteenth Century. Galaxy Publishing Company, Cincinnati, OH, 1876. p. 467. 2. Ibid. p. 467. 3. Ibid. p. 467. 4. Ibid. p. 467. 5. Ibid. p. 467. -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

Hello Everyone - I've been busy. Anyone recognize the following? Descendants of Reverend Henry TEMPLE - 15 Apr 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIRST GENERATION 1. Reverend Henry TEMPLE1 was born about 1820 in VA. He was married to Sarah Jane. Reverend Henry TEMPLE and Sarah Jane had the following children: +2 i. John Newton TEMPLE. SECOND GENERATION 2. John Newton TEMPLE2 was born in 1846 in Essex Co., VA. He Moved about 1860 in AR. He was rejected for service in the Confederate Army, apparently due to his youth. Afterwards, he moved to Arkansas. After reaching Arkansas, he was made a prisoner of war by the Union forces, but soon released. He died on 27 Jul 1898 in Baltimore, Baltimore, MD. He was a Farmer and lumberman in Texarkana, AR.3 He was married to Alice M. GRESHAM (daughter of Dr. Henry GRESHAM and Laura M.) on 11 Oct 1882 in Tappahannock, VA.4 John Newton TEMPLE and Alice M. GRESHAM had the following children: 3 i. Henry Gresham TEMPLE5 was born on 18 Oct 1886 in Texarkana, AR. 4 ii. Charles Newton TEMPLE6 was born on 22 Jun 1889 in Texarkana, AR. SOURCES 1. Ed. David Yancey Thomas. Arkansas and Its People - A History, 1541-1930. The American Historical Society, Inc., New York, NY, 1930. p. 597. 2. Ibid. p. 598. 3. Ibid. p. 598. 4. Ibid. p. 598. 5. Ibid. p. 598. 6. Ibid. p. 598. -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

To Anyone Who Knows: Does this line look familiar - can anyone help me with more data about the family, particularly the enigmatic W.K. TEMPLE? Descendants of W.K. TEMPLE - 15 Apr 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIRST GENERATION 1. W.K. TEMPLE1 was born about 1800 in Wapello Co., IA.2 He Moved in 1849 in CA.3 Part of the gold rush, he went west by ox-team. Died on return from California by way of Panama, where he contracted yellow fever. W.K. TEMPLE had the following children: +2 i. Henry Clay TEMPLE. 3 ii. William TEMPLE4 died in WA. Homesteaded in Willamette Valley, Oregon. SECOND GENERATION 2. Henry Clay TEMPLE5 was born on 18 Sep 1833 in Wapello Co., IA. He died on 26 Dec 1920 in WA. Worked his way west by wagon train in 1852. Worked in Portland Oregon until 1856, when he returned to Iowa. He was married to Elizabeth CONNELLY. Elizabeth CONNELLY6 was born on 1 Sep 1838 in Wapello Co., IA.7 She died on 19 Apr 1917 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA.8 Henry Clay TEMPLE and Elizabeth CONNELLY had the following children: 4 i. Ella TEMPLE9 was born on 6 Mar 1862 in IA. She died on 18 May 1876. +5 ii. Gus A. TEMPLE. THIRD GENERATION 5. Gus A. TEMPLE10 was born on 20 May 1870 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. He was married to Tillie BLOOMSTROM (daughter of Louis D. BLOOMSTROM and Anna) in 1900.11 Tillie BLOOMSTROM12 was born in 1872 in WI. She died in 1910 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. Gus A. TEMPLE and Tillie BLOOMSTROM had the following children: +6 i. Anita Lenore TEMPLE. +7 ii. Max M. TEMPLE. +8 iii. Marie TEMPLE. He was married to Zaidee MC FARLAND about 1912. Gus A. TEMPLE and Zaidee MC FARLAND had the following children: 9 i. James Woodrow TEMPLE13 was born on 27 Mar 1913 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. 10 ii. Juliette TEMPLE14 was born on 24 Jul 1915 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. FOURTH GENERATION 6. Anita Lenore TEMPLE15 was born on 2 Apr 1901 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. She was married to W.J. VETOUS in Kelso, Cowlitz, WA.16 7. Max M. TEMPLE17 was born on 27 Feb 1903 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. He Moved in Riderwood, WA.18 He was married to June WILSON. June WILSON19 was born in Winlock, WA. 8. Marie TEMPLE20 was born on 4 Jun 1904 in Puyallup, Pierce, WA. She was married to R.A. ALM. SOURCES 1. Lancaster Pollard. The History of The State of Washington. The American Historical Society, Inc., New York, NY, 1937. Vol. IV, p. 633. 2. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 633. 3. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 633. 4. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 5. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 633. 6. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 633. 7. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 8. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 9. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 10. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 633. 11. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 12. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 13. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 14. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 15. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 16. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 17. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 18. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 19. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. 20. Ibid. Vol. IV, p. 634. -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

Nancy: Here's some additional data on the CALDWELL line: Individual Summary - 15 Apr 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: John CALDWELL Sex: Male Father: James CALDWELL (-) Mother: Margaret WASSON (-) Individual Facts Birth 1756 Death 1840 (age 84) Marriages/Children 1. [UNKNOWN SPOUSE] Children Hannah CALDWELL (abt 1788-28 Jan 1823) Sources 1. New England Historical Genealogical Register. Vol. 104, 1950, p. 204. 2. Ibid. Vol. 104, 1950, p. 204. 3. Levi Daniel Temple. Some Temple Pedigrees, A Genealogy of the Known Descendants of Abraham Temple who settled in Salem, MASS in 1636. David Clapp & Son, Boston, 1900. p. 57. Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

A & D Schendel wrote: > > Hello folks, > > I was looking at Parkers pages today. I read Joane's discourse about > John son of Major. The statement is that "it is unlikely that John > returned to PA" is followed directly by "He married Jane Russel in TN." > Then each of their children whose birth place is listed was born in > Westmoreland Co, PA. ??? If these are John and Jane's children how were > they born in Westmoreland County, PA if there parents weren't there? It > is obvious that I missed something. > > DorothyDorothy No, you missed nothing - I never fixed the database. In constructing it, I made the leap of faith that Some Temple Pedigrees, p. 266, meant that the children were born in Westmoreland co. Joanne is probably correct, and my page is in error. This has been fixed in my off-line database, and will be cofrrected in a future upload. Hope this didn't cause too much problem. Thanks for pointing it out. If there is better data - I sure would appreciate being able to use it. Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

Do any of you have any onformation on: Charles Everett Temple, b. 22 January 1873, in Shrewsbury, Mass. Parents were: Franklin Sawyer Temple and Jane Isadora Harrington. He married Cora Isabella Walker. They were divorced sometime between 1910 and 1920. I am trying to find out where and when he died and if he had a second marriage. Please advise me at Bob303@aol.com. Thank you. Bob Temple

Park: Am posting this to the whole list in case someone else wants the information. I too have a Daniel Wasson Temple, b 31 Aug 1809 in Bernardston, MA, d. 1 Aug 1880 in Bernardston; m. 8 Apr 1838 in Bernardston to Catharine Fisk Clark. As earlier noted, Daniel is the son of Parmenas Temple, Jr. and Hannah Caldwell b. 1785/88, d. 28 Jan 1823. Hannah's father is John Caldwell. Does anyone have any more information about Hannah or her father John. I have no information concerning John's ancestors or Hannah's mother. Perhaps Hannah's mother was a Wasson???? Please EMail ntgardner@juno.com since I will be away and not on the Digest for about 10 days. Thanks. Nancy Teachout Gardner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello folks, I was looking at Parkers pages today. I read Joane's discourse about John son of Major. The statement is that "it is unlikely that John returned to PA" is followed directly by "He married Jane Russel in TN." Then each of their children whose birth place is listed was born in Westmoreland Co, PA. ??? If these are John and Jane's children how were they born in Westmoreland County, PA if there parents weren't there? It is obvious that I missed something. Dorothy

Park, The person you are looking for is Daniel Wasson Temple. b. aug 31 1809. Daniels parents were Parmenas and Hannah Caldwell Temple. Was Hannah and Elizabeth the same person? Ralph

Hello Again: This time, I'm looking for any information on James E. TEMPLE, who married Mrs Elizabeth Lefavour, 16 Nov 1824. Anyone know these two? Thanks again Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

Hello Everyone - Hope you all had a good Easter. Awfully quiet this weekend. Does anyone out there recognize these folks: James Caldwell m Margaret Wason (Wasson), had son John Caldwell (1756-1840). His d Elizabeth m (?) Temple, and had son Wason Temple, b 1809. I cannot place a Wasson TEMPLE - or the circumstances. Have any of you run across these folks? Thanks Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

and group....a n era I history where I feel "most at home and part of" Have done a minimum of research om medieval times and also early Eng. in particular. I have as far as the line goes in descendancy what joanne has..I have read many such accts re:Godiva Godifu..most allege to tale as just that.. I be;eive in tales as being a great starting point. They don,t "come from nowhere"... I have found many mentions of Leofric as great and caring ruler. One book I have not been able to find..."FLORES HISTOREAUM" by Roger of Wentover ; supposedly earliest account of tradition. The "Tradition" is either attractive as a tale or has some real basis as is part of Coventry Fair festival in Coventry! Think I,ll check with my Birmingham and Midland Soc. in England. Interested in others opinions! CHigg

To all Temple Researchers, The Temple Chat will take place this Friday night - April 10th at 8 PM Eastern This Temple Family Chat takes place the 10th of each month at 5 P.M. Pacific, 6 P.M. Mountain, 7 P.M. Central, 8 P.M. Eastern - U.S. Time Zones. This chat is run courtesy of Parachat and it is java operated, so you must have a java-capable browser to take part in this chat. When your ready to chat live on this chat click here for the 10th of the month Parachat Java Temple Family Live Chat http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1200/chat.html William J. Temple temple-family@geocities.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/e/m/William-J-Temple

Since it has be very quiet on the list, thought I would take this time to open discussion on Leofric, Earl of Mercia. Before I go any farther, let me say up front, that this is NOT an endorsement of the belief that the Temples descend from Leofric. Indeed, if asked, I would say that this belief is sorely lacking in proof. Yet, at the same time, this is an era in history of great interest to me. So, let’s open a friendly and hopefully, beneficial debate on this subject. Maybe you can change my mind :-) The accuracy of the Leofric’s lineage is something that I can’t determine, as I have found only one very ancient book showing the lineage. And it has been my experience in looking at books showing Royal or Noble descent they can vary greatly - especially the early history. So, this is what I have on Leofric’s line of descent: Leofric, Leuricus comes Leycestriae ?716-757? (Comes is a Count). issue: Aelfgar I comes, d 810? issue: Aelfgar II comes, d 851? issue: Leofric II Dugd. Mon. (I have no idea what the initials stand for) issue: 1. Leofwine 2. Leofric III Leofwine, son of Leofric II had issue: 1. Leofric, Earl of Leicester c 1023, Earl of Mercia c1026, d 3 Aug 1057 m Godgifu, Lady Godiva of Coventry, sister of Thorold of Bukenhale. 2. Eadwine d 1039 battle against the Welsh at Rhydy-Groes 3. Godwine (had Aethelwine d c 1014) 4. Northman (Norman), d 1017 in London Leofric, Earl of Mercia and Lady Godiva had: Aelfgar, Earl of East Angles c1053, Earl of Mercia c1057 m Aelfgifu Alveva. Issue: 1. Eadwine (Edwin), Earl of Mecia d c1072 2. Morkere (Morcar), Earl Northumberland alive in 1087 3. Burhhead Burchardus 4. Ealdgyth m1 Gruffydd Griffin, King of Wales (d 1063) m2 Harold II (d 1066) - no issue. With King Gruffydd she had Nest 5. Lucia m Ivo Tallebois And that is all I could find on Leofric’s genealogy. Leofric is historical recorded as being a man of moderation and reason. "Not that the forbearance of Leofric, the 'dear ruler' should be judged outside the context of his time. According to Florence of Worcester, he crushed a revolt in Worcestershire with such savagery that the shire town was depopulated..." The Making of The King 1066 by Alan Lloyd "In the year following this peace Earl Leofric died, to the grief of all men ‘for he was very wise for God and also for the world, which was a blessing to this nation" A History of England Before the Norman Conquest by Sir Charles Oman Some other resources that I would recommend on England’s early history: Edward the Confessor by Frank Barlow The Normans and the Norman Conquest by R. Allen Brown The Age of Arthur - A History of the British Isles from 350-650 by John Morris The passages I find most intriguing are from Edward the Confessor: "... and Earl Leofric was a member of an old and distinguished Mercian family" speaking of Leofric..." He was married to an Englishwoman, Godgifu or Godiva, and, although no English patriot, was a man of honour, religion, and loyal." So, let’s jump to the Kingdom of Mercia (The Marchland) "The Mercians are described by Bede as being divided into two subtribes - the North and South Mercians - by the river Trent; but there is little reason to think that there were ever two distinct kingdoms among them." footnote: The only reason for thinking of such a possibility is the mention by Bede of a Cearl king of the Mercians who does not appear in the royal genealogy. " A History of England Before the Norman Conquest "The Mercians. South of the Trent the kings who followed Penda built a powerfull monarchy, which retained its supremacy into the 9th century." The Age of Arthur - A History of the British Isles from 350-650 I could list the Kings of Mercia, but there would be little point since we don't know how or even if Leofric's family fits into them. I will stop here and open the floor to discussion and/or debate... Joanne

To Everyone: I found the following two, possibly related, TEMPLE's in the Queen Anne's county area of Maryland. Does anyone know more about these folks? Please let me know if you can give me more ancestry or descent info. Thnaks. The Biographical Cyclopedia of Maryland and District of Columbia National Biographical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, 1879 p. 276 William E. TEMPLE, Register of Wills for Queen Anne's County, MD. He was a native of Templeville in the easter part of Queen Anne's, born there in 1836. His father was James TEMPLE, who was a member of the State Legislature in 1850. James married Annie Day, daughter of William Day of Delaware. They had a son, William, started a country store in Templeville which failed. In 1869, he was elected sheriff of Queen Anne's as a Democrat, and served 1870-1871. In November 1875, he was elected one of the commissioners of the county, and served two years. Starting in November 1877, he was the Register of Wills. He married Rachel Emily, daughter of Charles Schulley, in 1857. He had 8 children, of which two sons and a daughter survived. p. 486 John Wesley TEMPLE, Clerk of the Circuit Court for Caroline County, MD. He was born 15 Sep 1821 on a homestead near Templeville in Queen Anne's county. His parents were William and Mary (Knotts) TEMPLE, of English descent, and residents of Queen Anne's county. On 1 Apr 1844 he moved to Caroline county, and remained there until 1 Sep 1874, when he moved to Denton, Caroline, MD. He was a Justice of the Peace, Clerk of the Circuit Court of Caroline County, and also a Clerk of the Levy Court. He married in Dec 1850, and had nine children. Any help on the above would be appreciated. Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

To Everyone: I ran across the following in the Baltimore, MD, area, and know nothing of them beyond this. They are some very early TEMPLEs, but probably had no male issue? Please let me know if either of the following ring a bell. Individual Summary - 4 Apr 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------ Name: Thomas TEMPLE Sex: Male Individual Facts Birth abt 1670 in Baltimore Co., MD Death May 1710 in Baltimore Co., MD (age 40) Marriages/Children 1. Eleanor LORESON Marriage 17 Apr 1699 in Baltimore Co., MD (age 29) Children Susannah TEMPLE (21 Aug 1699-) Philisanna TEMPLE (-) Johanna TEMPLE (31 Aug 1707-) Elinor TEMPLE (1 Oct 1709-) 2. Elizabeth Marriage aft 1709 (age 39) Notes General1: NO NOTE Sources 1. Robert W. Barnes. Baltimore County Families, 1659-1759. Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD, 1989. p. 631. Also, in the same source, I found: Miles TEMPLE, d Baltimore Co., MD, by 24 Apr 1705. Wife and issue unknown. He bought TEMPLE's Claim on the Patapsco River in March 1704/5. He died in April 1705, leaving a will. Where was he from - and who was his wife? did he have issue? Park -- L. Parker Temple Researching the branches of the TEMPLE family See my home page at http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm

Perhaps you can help a whole bunch of Temple researchers here! Do either of you know of "a HTML operated free chatwith no membership requirements"? William Temple seems dedicated to getting a chat area so that not only non-aol and also aol Temples can chat..without all the complications of geocities membership and java browsers. Perhaps you saw his post. I,m too new at puters to answer him. He certainly is going out of hiw way to get a lot of Temples together. I bet there is a lot of knowledge out there. Short LOL note on me..Have been actively searching Temple 12 or more years...never got my answer. Posted a note to Bowdoin list Answer from member whose Dad is a Bowdoin. Gave me verified info on fact that not one-but 3 BowdoiN?wINTHROPS IN SAME LINEAGE CHANGED THEIR NAMES TO tEMPLE!! Oh well...another root to follow!!jmay@hpnc.net Happy spring weekend all! Carol

Carol & Temple-List, I was just reading yesterday a computer magazine that talked about the history of the internet. Netscape Navigator 2.0 was the first browser to have java-capability. That browser was out in 1996. Microsoft's Internet Explorer 3.0 which came out in 1996 was java capable. And the newest browser versions of Navigator 4.0 & Explorer 4.0 are still java capable. So I really don't understand why anyone has had any trouble with my original weekly Java chat. I can only guess it was because maybe they had AOL browsers which are not java capable. I think I read somewhere that AOL browsers are not java capable, and I guess the only why to make them java capable is to do a special download for it from them like you recently did. I would have thought that AOL would be similiar to Navigator & Explorer, where java capability is a standard feature in their browser, but I guess that's not the case. Anyway, those with AOL browsers means they can take part in the AOL chat, which is great. The whole point in me creating the Temple chat at my site was so non-AOL members would have somewhere to engage in a Temple chat. So any non-AOL member had that oppurtunity with my Parachat java Temple chat on Fridays. And they still have that oppurtunity with my Parachat java Temple chat on the 10th of every month. So they can't complain about not being non-AOL members any more! And now with my non-java Temple chat on the Geocities Heartland neighborhood chat page, which I'll create every month on the 20th at 8 PM Eastern, now even the AOL members whose browsers are not java-capable can come and chat with non-AOL Temple researchers. If me trying to have two chats turns out to be too much I can always cancel one. Having my Parachat java chat allows all the non-AOL Temple researchers to chat with each other. You having the AOL Great Temple chat allows all the AOL members to chat with each other. But the AOL members can't come to chat with the non-AOL members in my Parachat java Temple chat without upgrading their AOL browsers. That's why I decided to try the Geocities chat, which allows one to chat either by java or html. This is the only way for the AOL members who don't have a java capable browser on their computer to come chat with the non-AOL Temple resaearchers. But in order to chat in the Geocities chat rooms, everyone who wants to chat there must be a Geocities member, so if everyone signs up we could all just meet there and I could later cancel my Parachat java Temple chat if everyone does that. Will see how it goes. Geocities membership is free, so everyone might as well sign up. Also, AOL members can always upgrade their browser. There's lots of sights on the internet with java, its something everyone should have. Also, I have both Navigator and Explorer on my computer, and I think its a good idea that everyone has more than one browser on their computer. Pages on the internet look different in the different browsers, and you miss a lot when you come to a site designed for just one browser and not the other. So I would encourage everyone to have two browsers on their computers. If anyone reading this knows of a html powered chat I could place on my page to replace the java chat for free then please tell me about it, so then everyone could just come to my page and chat and not have to worry about java or geocities membership or anything. Also I think the fact that I've changed the meeting away from every Friday will probably help the most. That seemed to be what the most complaints were about, not that they had trouble getting there because of java but because it was on a Friday night and they wanted to do other things than chat on a Friday night. And once a week seemed to be too much chatting than they really wanted to engage in, so now that its once a month for each (in my case, on the 10th in Parachat java & on the 20th in Geocities java or html) I've cut down the number of meetings from 4 times a week to twice a week which should create a larger turn out for the less frequent meetings. If anyone has anymore ideas how we AOL & non-AOL members can get together to chat let me know. You can even post your ideas to the list. I would like very much to get both groups of Temple researchers into the same or an alternate chat with none or the least amount of trouble for anyone. If I lived in an AOL local calling service area I would certainly be an AOL member so I could take part in your AOL Temple chats. I hope together with all of us looking we can find somewhere on the internet an html operated free chat with no membership required we can all show up at to chat. William J. Temple temple-family@geocities.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/e/m/William-J-Temple

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