Hello, Thank you for making this Abraham Temple month! I would really like to see the descendants of Abraham's poor forgotten other son.......Robert, start to come forward. I am a Robert descendant all the way down to my mother. In fact, I just represented the Temple family at the "Pioneer Families of ME" reunion on Peaks Island, in Portland, last month. I will be posting my family soon. I have been working on my collateral lines for a while now. Could really use some help with the Goodwin family of Kittery and Berwick, ME ! Thanks, Joanne Chapin New Milford, CT

For Carol Higgins & others: I don't know where in England Richard Temple was born abt 1623. Perhaps Park Temple has this information on his home page (I haven't looked back). Richard Temple's father was the Abraham Temple, b. abt 1597 that we are trying to get more information on. Abraham was b. in Stowe, England, d. after 1639 in Salem, MA. Abraham was married to Abigail (no last name) in England on 4 Dec 1620 according to my records (but I haven't found my source). It has been suggested that we concentrate on Abraham during the month of August to see what other information our Temple group has on him. Nancy Teachout Gardner (ntgardner@juno.com) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Dear Charles Not only is it possible, if you look at the handwritting of that time, it's easy to understand some misinterpretations. Combine that with a large portion of those who couldn't spell and those who just wanted to change it, now WE are left to figure it out! For those of us that don't fit the norm have more research to do. Good luck Bob Temples CHARTEMP@aol.com wrote: > > Parker, > > Regarding my earlier message, is it not also possible that Templer should be > included more actively for some of the same reasons. In our case, for about > 100 years there has been a family story about how one brother added the "R" to > the Temple name to get Templer. That supposedly happened in Virginia, another > Southern state. Isn't it just possible that the same type of thing also > happpened to some who added the "S"? > > In our case, again, James Templer was b. abt 1755 in Loudoun County, Virginia, > d. aft 1846, believed to be in Virginia as that was last report of him in his > 90's. Married on 31 Aug 1775 in Loudoun County, VA to Martha Huff, b. abt > 1755 in VA, d. aft 1840 in VA. > > We do not know the parents of these individuals but family history says the > name change occurred and we have located a Temple genealogy file on WFT, Vol. > 2, #2978, from Broderbund that contains information on a Virginia family by > name of Temple that has a son, James, b. abt 1755, and about whom no other > information is shown. It is like he disappeared! Could this be our James? > We would like to visit with the author of this WFT submission except they have > asked to remain undisclosed. > > Any information anyone can give us about this possible family connection would > be appreciated. I can provide a copy of the WFT files again if it would help > in your analysis. > > Contact me at chartemp@aol.com > > Many thanks for your consideration. > > Charles E. Templer

Parker, Regarding my earlier message, is it not also possible that Templer should be included more actively for some of the same reasons. In our case, for about 100 years there has been a family story about how one brother added the "R" to the Temple name to get Templer. That supposedly happened in Virginia, another Southern state. Isn't it just possible that the same type of thing also happpened to some who added the "S"? In our case, again, James Templer was b. abt 1755 in Loudoun County, Virginia, d. aft 1846, believed to be in Virginia as that was last report of him in his 90's. Married on 31 Aug 1775 in Loudoun County, VA to Martha Huff, b. abt 1755 in VA, d. aft 1840 in VA. We do not know the parents of these individuals but family history says the name change occurred and we have located a Temple genealogy file on WFT, Vol. 2, #2978, from Broderbund that contains information on a Virginia family by name of Temple that has a son, James, b. abt 1755, and about whom no other information is shown. It is like he disappeared! Could this be our James? We would like to visit with the author of this WFT submission except they have asked to remain undisclosed. Any information anyone can give us about this possible family connection would be appreciated. I can provide a copy of the WFT files again if it would help in your analysis. Contact me at chartemp@aol.com Many thanks for your consideration. Charles E. Templer

Nancy..on subject of the Richard Temples Eng..where was the grandfather Richard born in England..? Do you have his ancestry back to an Ancestor before that? Thanks Carol Higgins

Linda: I'm sorry to say that I have no information on Peter Temple, possibly from the Richard line (brother of Joseph b. 1694), son of Richard b. 1654. Terry

Joanne: Starting with Abraham sounds good to me, too. I have very little about Abraham. Of course, there is the Levi Temple book information. My chart from Debrett's just says, "of Salem Massachusetts, 1636/9," and only gives one offspring: Richard Temple b. 1623? m. Joanna c. 1645. There are mentions of Abraham in two books: 1) "Pioneers of Massachusetts," by Charles Pope, gen. Pub. Co., 1969, p. 449; and 2) "History of Salem, Massachusetts," by Sidney Perley, Salem 1926, I:444 and I:462. Terry

Peggy: I don't think my very republican Temples (originally from New England) ever got south of Cincinnati or Wichita untill they went to Los Angeles, but I could be wrong. My Temple/Stewart connection is: Thomas Henry Temple, (parents: Clarke Temple and Adeline Fisher) b. January 28, 1857 d. January 22, 1924 m. Maria D. Stewart (parent: Eduiard Stewart and Sarah Durrell) b. December 13, 1863 m. September 5, 1880 d. December 12, 1918 Their children: 1. Robert Clarke Temple ....b. July 26, 1881, possibly NY or IL ....d. June 13, 1928, Los Angeles ...m. June 3, 1905, Maude Florence Purdum, possibly in IL or KS 2. Sarah Alice Temple ....b. October 5, 1883 ...m. November 26, 1908, Clarance J. Kickling 3. Anna Adeline Temple ....b. December 13, 1885, Garnet KS ...m. 1) Walter B. Borders, m. June 30, 1904 ....... 2) Joseph S. Black 4. Mary Frances Temple ....b. February 18, 1894 ....m. April 28, 1917, Gordon B. Bryan I hope this is helpful to someone out there. If so, let me know, please. The source of this information is primarily from the RC Temple family bible. Some information comes form relatives who are living, and a few from LA county records. Terry

Terry, As it turns out, Peter from Concord MA is the son of Benjamin b. 1690, not Richard. I'm trying to connect some pretty "ify" loose threads here with Peter's son Thomas possibly migrating west to Ohio. I guess it's time to give it up and start somewhere else! Thanks for your response. Linda

Robert: Thansk for the data and everything - looks like you have been busy. My comments were hardly scholarly - but merely an observation after looking at a lot of TEMPLE names and records. You have clearly looked more deeply into this - and pushed the time when the changeover of names occurred back to the early 1800s. I guess I never considered the problem of having to remember which relations had the s on their name. Hope you kept it straight. In general, as I mentioned to Ralph - I had initially rejected inclusion of hte TEMPLES, but I have now relented and regret my hasty earlier decision. Some time back, I was contacted by someone who asked if I could help with their research on TEMPLES. I wish I could get ahold of them and tell them I goofed. The database has a small repertoire of TEMPLES, but I hope to be able to grow it to help everyone out. Anyhow - Good to hear from you - and thanks again. Park _____________________________________ L. Parker Temple III Researching the TEMPLEs and Related Lines http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm -----Original Message----- From: Robert Temples <templesd@ix.netcom.com> To: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 7:18 PM Subject: Temple/Temples in SC >Hi Parker; > >> Earily censuses show a Jesse, John, and a James Temple-s families >> arriving from the north(VA,Nc,TN,?) to SC and GA.areas. From all accounts >> there appears to be family connections between SC and GA groups. In >> 1805 GA started land lotteries and this attacted many. The latest >> research is showing me a William C. Temple arriving in SC about >> 1800-1810 in what we think might be the Saluda Co. area. None of this >> is varified yet. The likelyhood that William and the other are related >> is very good. >> >> As to the "s" pluralizing the name, we have fould it very commonly added >> and substracted from generation to generation. Many of these earily >> individuals couldn't spell! Even in my family line, it goes back and >> forth all the time. Then add Temples's who marry Temple's! Just like >> you, I believe the root name is Temple, but when they went south some >> families adopted the "s". Growing up, I had to be careful when sending >> Christmas cards out, who got the "s" and who didn't. >> >> I'll try sending you my latest descendant chart in Microsoft Word. If it doesn't go >> through let me know. >> All our research is being documented in "The Master Genealogist" >> software and by all accounts our southern Temples's line has had little >> research before now. The summer is one of my busiest times, but I'll try to keep you up >to date on >my findings >> >> Robert M. Temples > > > Descendancy Chart of William Temples > > > >William1 Temples >+Mary1 Franklin, b. circa / /1800 South Carolina >+-- Seberin2 Temples, b. between 1820 and 1821 South Carolina, d. 01/ >/1906 > +Rebecca Ann2 Rodgers, b. between 1825 and 1827 South Carolina, d. >circa / /1895 > +-- Mary A3 Temples, b. 05/11/1844 South Carolina > ¦ +(--?--)3 Proctor > ¦ +-- Elvey4 Proctor, b. between 1870 and 1871 South Carolina > +-- Sarah A3 Temples, b. 07/19/1845 South Carolina > +-- Selemma3 Temples, b. 12/14/1849 South Carolina > +-- William Albert3 Temples, b. 07/06/1850 South Carolina > +-- Martha3 Temples, b. 10/25/1853 South Carolina > +-- Margaret3 Temples, b. 09/02/1855 South Carolina > +-- Andrew J.3 Temples, b. 11/20/1856 South Carolina > +-- John Calvin3 Temples, b. 06/29/1859 South Carolina, d. >01/31/1930 Batesburg, South Carolina > ¦ +Florence Emma3 Johnigan, b. 11/07/1872 South Carolina, m. >02/12/1890 Saluda, South Carolina, d. 09/19/1944 Batesburg, South >Carolina > ¦ +-- Henry Hudson4 Temples, b. 12/13/1891 South Carolina, d. >06/04/1938 > ¦ ¦ +Meadie B.4 Franks > ¦ +-- Charles Webster4 Temple, b. 10/10/1892 Batesburg, South >Carolina, d. 08/17/1963 Batesburg, South Carolina > ¦ ¦ +Azepha Lou Ella4 Watkins, b. 10/11/1891 Georgia, m. >04/16/1916, d. 12/05/1924 Bartow, Georgia > ¦ ¦ +-- Myrtle Lucille5 Temples, b. 06/02/1917 Davisboro, >Georgia, d. 05/16/1995 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +Theodore Wellen5 Johnson Junior, b. 10/17/1910 Raleigh, >North Carolina, m. 06/23/1934, d. 12/17/1987 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Dickey6 Johnson > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Theodore W.6 Johnson Junior, b. 04/12/1935 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Clara Sue6 Cyches, b. 01/14/1939 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Wells7 Johnson, b. 03/03/1959 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Henry Warren7 Johnson, b. 02/04/1960 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Whittney7 Johnson, b. 10/21/1963 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Melinda Sue7 Johnson, b. 08/26/1967 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Don Wayne6 Johnson, b. 01/20/1941 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Charlotte6 Cole, m. 12/29/1961 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Pamela Rene7 Johnson, b. 08/10/1962 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Mia Machelle7 Johnson, b. 12/27/1963 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Michael7 Johnson, b. 04/22/1965, d. / /1979 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- David Christopher7 Johnson, b. 03/17/1970 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Allen6 Johnson, b. 10/22/1944 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Andrea6 Grifith, m. 08/24/1968 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert7 Johnson Junior, b. 06/17/1969 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Jennifer7 Johnson, b. 05/30/1972 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Alison7 Johnson, b. 04/24/1979 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Ryan7 Johnson, b. 01/19/1981 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Charles Richard6 Johnson, b. 03/29/1946 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Linda Gail6 Smith, m. 08/05/1967 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Ashley Lynn7 Johnson, b. 05/05/1972 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Glenn Richard7 Johnson, b. 09/25/1973 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Glenn Temple6 Johnson, b. 10/22/1948, d. 08/24/1968 > ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Julian5 Temples, b. 01/01/1919 Davisboro, >Georgia, d. 07/07/1992 Batesburg, South Carolina > ¦ ¦ ¦ +Violet Maxine5 McAffee, b. 04/30/1917 Estherville, >Iowa, m. 01/14/1946 Seattle, Washington, d. 07/22/1984 Seattle, >Washington > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Paul Jerome6 Temples, b. 09/28/1936 > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Judy6 Burton, b. 11/30/1937 Richmond, Virginia, m. >10/05/1955 Alexandria, Virginia > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Jeffrey7 Temples, b. 07/01/1953 Radford, >Virginia > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Christopher7 Temples, b. 11/23/1963 Alexandria, >Virginia > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Michael6 Temples, b. 01/31/1950 Alexandria, >Virginia > ¦ ¦ ¦ +June6 Noll, b. 07/23/1952 Tacoma, Washington, m. >06/09/1973 Seattle, Washington > ¦ ¦ ¦ +Louise Monique6 Hall, b. 10/12/1954 Seattle, >Washington, m. 04/26/1985 Lynnwood, Washington > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Briana Michelle7 Temples, b. 09/11/1990 Seattle, >Washington > ¦ ¦ +-- Florence Evelyn5 Temples, b. 10/04/1924 Davisboro, >Georgia, d. 06/04/1984 > ¦ ¦ +Charles Lewis5 Baker, b. 10/08/1922, d. 05/25/1959 > ¦ ¦ +-- Charles Lewis6 Baker Junior, b. 01/03/1947 > ¦ ¦ +-- Nancy Lynn6 Baker, b. 06/24/1948 > ¦ ¦ ¦ +(--?--)6 Smith Junior > ¦ ¦ +-- Mary Josephine6 Baker, b. 12/09/1951 > ¦ ¦ +(--?--)6 Shumpert > ¦ ¦ +Rose Lee4 Derrick, b. / /1901 Georgia, m. / /1930 >Batesburg, South Carolina, d. 12/31/1987 Batesburg, South Carolina > ¦ ¦ +-- Charles W.5 Temples Junior, b. 07/13/1931 Batesburg, >South Carolina > ¦ ¦ +-- Rebecca Jane5 Temples, b. 04/06/1935 Batesburg, South >Carolina > ¦ ¦ ¦ +James5 Doar > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Kyle6 Doar > ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Sandra Leahan6 Roebuck, m. 04/26/1997 South >Carolina > ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Jennifer6 Doar, b. West Columbia, South Carolina > ¦ ¦ ¦ +George6 (--?--) > ¦ ¦ +-- William Earl5 Temples, b. / /1939 > ¦ +-- Albert Capus4 Temples, b. 05/ /1897 South Carolina, d. >09/12/1918 > ¦ ¦ +Annie Mary4 Franks, d. / /1918 > ¦ ¦ +-- Lillie Mae5 Temples, b. 04/04/1918 Davisboro, Georgia, >d. 05/ /1993 Rightsville, Georgia > ¦ +-- Johnny Sebran4 Temples, b. 12/01/1901 South Carolina, d. >03/16/1974 > ¦ ¦ +Ruth4 Askew, m. 12/15/1922 > ¦ ¦ +-- Sarah Ethel5 Temples, b. 12/15/1923 > ¦ ¦ +-- Johnnie Sebran5 Temples, Jr, b. 04/19/1936 > ¦ ¦ +-- John Calvin5 Temples, b. 04/19/1936 > ¦ ¦ +Cynthia5 (--?--) > ¦ ¦ +-- Jamison Sebron6 Temples > ¦ +-- Wayman Wesley4 Temples, b. 07/23/1911, d. 10/16/1991 > ¦ +Georgia Julia4 Bedenbaugh, b. South Carolina, m. >04/21/1927, d. 09/22/1986 > ¦ +-- Waymon Wesley5 Temples Junior, b. 08/11/1929 > ¦ +-- Jeanette Ann5 Temple, b. 05/16/1933 > ¦ ¦ +Peat5 Matthews > ¦ ¦ +-- Wayman Wesley6 Matthews Junior, b. 08/11/1929 > ¦ ¦ +Floyd5 Kyzer > ¦ +-- Charles Louis5 Temples, b. 11/22/1938 > ¦ +-- Owens Verbe5 Temple, b. 04/22/1939 South Carolina > +-- Ella3 Temples, b. 05/11/1861 South Carolina > +-- James P.3 Temples, b. 08/22/1852 > +-- Marina3 Temples, b. 08/03/1862 South Carolina > +-- J. Henry3 Temples, b. 02/08/1864 South Carolina > +-- Lula3 Temples, b. 07/30/1867 South Carolina > +-- Charlie L.3 Temples, b. 07/04/1870 South Carolina > > > >Prepared by: >

Pam: Here's a lead - I have some more data on the lines other than Rebecca and Minerva: Individual Summary - 28 Jul 1998 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Name: Thomas TEMPLE Sex: Male Individual Facts Birth 1815 in KY Marriages/Children 1. Rebecca CARROLL Marriage 2 Jun 1836 in Madison Co., MS (age 21) Children James H. TEMPLE (abt 1838-) John TEMPLE (Mar 1839-aft 1911) William A. TEMPLE (Jun 1841-bef 1910) Rebecca TEMPLE (abt 1846-) Thomas Fairly TEMPLE (20 Mar 1848-) Minerva TEMPLE (abt 1853-) Sources 1. Joyce Temple Barnett. Temple People, Volume 1. Privately published, 1988. p. 646. Hope this helps - I would appreciate being able to share data on your line. Park _____________________________________ L. Parker Temple III Researching the TEMPLEs and Related Lines http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm -----Original Message----- From: Katluvr@mail.swbell.net <Katluvr@mail.swbell.net> To: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 11:38 PM Subject: TEMPLE/CARROLL >I looking for info on my g, g, g, grandparents. Thomas TEMPLE b. 1815 >KY, m. Rebecca CARROLL on 2 Jun 1836 in Madison Co. MS Rebecca was b. >1820 in NC. They had 6 children: James H.(my descendant), John, William >A., Rebecca, Thomas Fairly, Minerva, all were born in MS. Who were >Thomas and Rebecca's parents? My aunt said the Temples were >Scotish/Irish. Any information on either one would be appreciated. > >Pam >

Robert: Thanks for the correction - you are right, of course. I responded to am through the TEMPLE-l roots mail group. I have included everything here as well as notifying the group. Good luck - I hope you and Pam can help each other. Park Pam wrote: > Hi guys, > I can't think of where to turn. I subscribed to this list because it > mentions variant spellings, etc. But what do I do when the name I need > really does end in an 'S'?? > When I submit to GenForum, it gets lumped in with "TEMPLE" --- a nice > name, but, as I say, our family name has always (and still does) end in > the letter 's'. I'll send what I have --- maybe there is one more > 's' person out there........! > James TEMPLES was born abt 1820 in (?) NC, TN or MO (TX?) > He married Celia Howell Ellis who was born abt 1830 in TN > The couple lived in Stoddard Co. MO and were the parents of 5 children > (+2 from Celia previous marriages). > Children of James and Celia include : > Hulda Strawn and Oma Ellis (Celia's) > John TEMPLES b. 1856 > Minerva TEMPLES b 1858 Children born Stoddard Co., MO > William TEMPLES b. 1861 > Mary. E. TEMPLES b.1866 > Lewis Ballard TEMPLES b. 1864 > Lewis Ballard is my g. grandfather. Lewis married Nancy Melvina SADLER > and they were the parents of 8 children: Elmer, Amma, Etta (Betty), > Ralph, Oden, Florence, Owen and Luther. > Does this ring any bells with anyone? It's as if the TEMPLES came into > being as a single entity (or are secretly aliens!) Any help will be > appreciated. > Pam (in Idaho) _____________________________________ L. Parker Temple III Researching the TEMPLEs and Related Lines http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm -----Original Message----- From: Robert Temples <templesd@ix.netcom.com> To: L. Parker Temple <lptemple@erols.com> Cc: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 7:24 PM Subject: Re: TEMPLES - ENDS In 'S'from SC > > >Dear Parker: > >> On one of you recent posting to a Pam, you pose a question - about the TEMPLES >> from the south. The information I sent you regarding Seaborn's line is >> varified up to him. It's Seaborn's father that we have not varified yet, do >> you have more varifaction or information regarding William C.TEMPLE and Mary >> FRANKLIN. William C.TEMPLE on one document to us showed him as Seaborn's >> father and that he was killed in the Florida Indian Wars. We suspect that >> after his fathers death, he lived with his mother ( a Mary A. Temple, head of >> house hold in the 1840 SC census with appropriate age and sexs shown that >> match for Seaborn, wife Rebecca, and children). This too needs varifaction. >> >> If the Pam mentioned in your e-mail is researching this line we want to >> communicate with her. Feel free to have her e-mail us. I've attached a >> Microsoft Word document showing my descentant chart. > >> Does anyone have any varifaction or information on the above family lines >> believed to have come down from the north(Va, NC,Tn?) to the Saluda and or >> Edgefield Co. areas of SC. about 1800-1810. > >Robert M. Temples > >> >> >> > > >

Ralph: You ran across the same phenomenon I did. I originally rejected keeping TEMPLES because I thought they were different lines. I have begun to include them in my research as well. For those dealing with TEMPLE or TEMPLES in the South, particularly post 1840, if you hit a dead end, check the alternative spelling of the name. I have even found it among siblings in a family. Park _____________________________________ L. Parker Temple III Researching the TEMPLEs and Related Lines http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Temple <rtemplegen@email.msn.com> To: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Temple/Temples >Hi Joanne and all, > >I for one would be in favor of starting with Abraham of Salem for our Temple >of the month pick. > >I would also like to add some comments on the "TEMPLES" surname. Pam Blair >contacted me back in May when I started my "Temples in the census" project. >She asked me if I was including them in my project. I told her at the time >that I was not. However since then I see that I may have to change my mind. >Some of you have commented that these Temples seem to use either "TEMPLES" >or "TEMPLE". I see it clearly in the census. Some are listed as TEMPLES >in one census and back to TEMPLE ten years later. > >Ralph Temple >-----Original Message----- >From: jmay <jmay@hpnc.com> >To: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 12:47 AM >Subject: Re: Temple/Temples > > >>Hi Temple researchers, >> >>I agree with Park, there are no signs of the "s" until VA and southward. >>I came across a varient today in MD... Tembell. Spend all day in MD books >>(with very little to show) and didn't even finish! Will try to complete it >>the >>next visit and move on to MA. >> >>I am wondering if we should start on Abraham Temple and showcase it for >>the month of August. Adding any information that we find and just an >>overall discussion of that group for that month... (other posting, of >>course, >>would still be allowed). >> >>The following month we can move onto a new group and/or state?? Please, >>let me know if this is okay with all of you. I think it maybe a good way >to >>learn and explore new possiblities. >> >>Joanne >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: L. Parker Temple <lptemple@erols.com> >>To: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 6:13 PM >>Subject: Re: Temple/Temples >> >> >>>Linda: >>>I am pretty sure that there were nho TEMPLES in England. Not only are >they >>>unique to the colonies, they are unique to the South (in their earliest >>>incarnations). >>> >>>Park >>>_____________________________________ >>>L. Parker Temple III >>>Researching the TEMPLEs and Related Lines >>>http://www.erols.com/lptemple/house.htm >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: lkwade <lkwade@ibm.net> >>>To: TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com <TEMPLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 8:28 PM >>>Subject: Temple/Temples >>> >>> >>>>Park, >>>>I think you are on to something with you theory on the Temple/Temples >>>>spelling variation. It could very well be dialectic. Have you run >>>>across any Temples in the England histories or could it be a quirk in >>>>the colonies? >>>> >>>>Linda >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >

Hi Parker; > Earily censuses show a Jesse, John, and a James Temple-s families > arriving from the north(VA,Nc,TN,?) to SC and GA.areas. From all accounts > there appears to be family connections between SC and GA groups. In > 1805 GA started land lotteries and this attacted many. The latest > research is showing me a William C. Temple arriving in SC about > 1800-1810 in what we think might be the Saluda Co. area. None of this > is varified yet. The likelyhood that William and the other are related > is very good. > > As to the "s" pluralizing the name, we have fould it very commonly added > and substracted from generation to generation. Many of these earily > individuals couldn't spell! Even in my family line, it goes back and > forth all the time. Then add Temples's who marry Temple's! Just like > you, I believe the root name is Temple, but when they went south some > families adopted the "s". Growing up, I had to be careful when sending > Christmas cards out, who got the "s" and who didn't. > > I'll try sending you my latest descendant chart in Microsoft Word. If it doesn't go > through let me know. > All our research is being documented in "The Master Genealogist" > software and by all accounts our southern Temples's line has had little > research before now. The summer is one of my busiest times, but I'll try to keep you up to date on my findings > > Robert M. Temples Descendancy Chart of William Temples William1 Temples +Mary1 Franklin, b. circa / /1800 South Carolina +-- Seberin2 Temples, b. between 1820 and 1821 South Carolina, d. 01/ /1906 +Rebecca Ann2 Rodgers, b. between 1825 and 1827 South Carolina, d. circa / /1895 +-- Mary A3 Temples, b. 05/11/1844 South Carolina ¦ +(--?--)3 Proctor ¦ +-- Elvey4 Proctor, b. between 1870 and 1871 South Carolina +-- Sarah A3 Temples, b. 07/19/1845 South Carolina +-- Selemma3 Temples, b. 12/14/1849 South Carolina +-- William Albert3 Temples, b. 07/06/1850 South Carolina +-- Martha3 Temples, b. 10/25/1853 South Carolina +-- Margaret3 Temples, b. 09/02/1855 South Carolina +-- Andrew J.3 Temples, b. 11/20/1856 South Carolina +-- John Calvin3 Temples, b. 06/29/1859 South Carolina, d. 01/31/1930 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ +Florence Emma3 Johnigan, b. 11/07/1872 South Carolina, m. 02/12/1890 Saluda, South Carolina, d. 09/19/1944 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ +-- Henry Hudson4 Temples, b. 12/13/1891 South Carolina, d. 06/04/1938 ¦ ¦ +Meadie B.4 Franks ¦ +-- Charles Webster4 Temple, b. 10/10/1892 Batesburg, South Carolina, d. 08/17/1963 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ ¦ +Azepha Lou Ella4 Watkins, b. 10/11/1891 Georgia, m. 04/16/1916, d. 12/05/1924 Bartow, Georgia ¦ ¦ +-- Myrtle Lucille5 Temples, b. 06/02/1917 Davisboro, Georgia, d. 05/16/1995 ¦ ¦ ¦ +Theodore Wellen5 Johnson Junior, b. 10/17/1910 Raleigh, North Carolina, m. 06/23/1934, d. 12/17/1987 ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Dickey6 Johnson ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Theodore W.6 Johnson Junior, b. 04/12/1935 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Clara Sue6 Cyches, b. 01/14/1939 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Wells7 Johnson, b. 03/03/1959 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Henry Warren7 Johnson, b. 02/04/1960 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Whittney7 Johnson, b. 10/21/1963 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Melinda Sue7 Johnson, b. 08/26/1967 ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Don Wayne6 Johnson, b. 01/20/1941 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Charlotte6 Cole, m. 12/29/1961 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Pamela Rene7 Johnson, b. 08/10/1962 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Mia Machelle7 Johnson, b. 12/27/1963 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Michael7 Johnson, b. 04/22/1965, d. / /1979 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- David Christopher7 Johnson, b. 03/17/1970 ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Allen6 Johnson, b. 10/22/1944 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Andrea6 Grifith, m. 08/24/1968 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert7 Johnson Junior, b. 06/17/1969 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Jennifer7 Johnson, b. 05/30/1972 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Alison7 Johnson, b. 04/24/1979 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Ryan7 Johnson, b. 01/19/1981 ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Charles Richard6 Johnson, b. 03/29/1946 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Linda Gail6 Smith, m. 08/05/1967 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Ashley Lynn7 Johnson, b. 05/05/1972 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Glenn Richard7 Johnson, b. 09/25/1973 ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Glenn Temple6 Johnson, b. 10/22/1948, d. 08/24/1968 ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Julian5 Temples, b. 01/01/1919 Davisboro, Georgia, d. 07/07/1992 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ ¦ ¦ +Violet Maxine5 McAffee, b. 04/30/1917 Estherville, Iowa, m. 01/14/1946 Seattle, Washington, d. 07/22/1984 Seattle, Washington ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Paul Jerome6 Temples, b. 09/28/1936 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Judy6 Burton, b. 11/30/1937 Richmond, Virginia, m. 10/05/1955 Alexandria, Virginia ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Jeffrey7 Temples, b. 07/01/1953 Radford, Virginia ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Christopher7 Temples, b. 11/23/1963 Alexandria, Virginia ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Robert Michael6 Temples, b. 01/31/1950 Alexandria, Virginia ¦ ¦ ¦ +June6 Noll, b. 07/23/1952 Tacoma, Washington, m. 06/09/1973 Seattle, Washington ¦ ¦ ¦ +Louise Monique6 Hall, b. 10/12/1954 Seattle, Washington, m. 04/26/1985 Lynnwood, Washington ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Briana Michelle7 Temples, b. 09/11/1990 Seattle, Washington ¦ ¦ +-- Florence Evelyn5 Temples, b. 10/04/1924 Davisboro, Georgia, d. 06/04/1984 ¦ ¦ +Charles Lewis5 Baker, b. 10/08/1922, d. 05/25/1959 ¦ ¦ +-- Charles Lewis6 Baker Junior, b. 01/03/1947 ¦ ¦ +-- Nancy Lynn6 Baker, b. 06/24/1948 ¦ ¦ ¦ +(--?--)6 Smith Junior ¦ ¦ +-- Mary Josephine6 Baker, b. 12/09/1951 ¦ ¦ +(--?--)6 Shumpert ¦ ¦ +Rose Lee4 Derrick, b. / /1901 Georgia, m. / /1930 Batesburg, South Carolina, d. 12/31/1987 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ ¦ +-- Charles W.5 Temples Junior, b. 07/13/1931 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ ¦ +-- Rebecca Jane5 Temples, b. 04/06/1935 Batesburg, South Carolina ¦ ¦ ¦ +James5 Doar ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Kyle6 Doar ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +Sandra Leahan6 Roebuck, m. 04/26/1997 South Carolina ¦ ¦ ¦ +-- Jennifer6 Doar, b. West Columbia, South Carolina ¦ ¦ ¦ +George6 (--?--) ¦ ¦ +-- William Earl5 Temples, b. / /1939 ¦ +-- Albert Capus4 Temples, b. 05/ /1897 South Carolina, d. 09/12/1918 ¦ ¦ +Annie Mary4 Franks, d. / /1918 ¦ ¦ +-- Lillie Mae5 Temples, b. 04/04/1918 Davisboro, Georgia, d. 05/ /1993 Rightsville, Georgia ¦ +-- Johnny Sebran4 Temples, b. 12/01/1901 South Carolina, d. 03/16/1974 ¦ ¦ +Ruth4 Askew, m. 12/15/1922 ¦ ¦ +-- Sarah Ethel5 Temples, b. 12/15/1923 ¦ ¦ +-- Johnnie Sebran5 Temples, Jr, b. 04/19/1936 ¦ ¦ +-- John Calvin5 Temples, b. 04/19/1936 ¦ ¦ +Cynthia5 (--?--) ¦ ¦ +-- Jamison Sebron6 Temples ¦ +-- Wayman Wesley4 Temples, b. 07/23/1911, d. 10/16/1991 ¦ +Georgia Julia4 Bedenbaugh, b. South Carolina, m. 04/21/1927, d. 09/22/1986 ¦ +-- Waymon Wesley5 Temples Junior, b. 08/11/1929 ¦ +-- Jeanette Ann5 Temple, b. 05/16/1933 ¦ ¦ +Peat5 Matthews ¦ ¦ +-- Wayman Wesley6 Matthews Junior, b. 08/11/1929 ¦ ¦ +Floyd5 Kyzer ¦ +-- Charles Louis5 Temples, b. 11/22/1938 ¦ +-- Owens Verbe5 Temple, b. 04/22/1939 South Carolina +-- Ella3 Temples, b. 05/11/1861 South Carolina +-- James P.3 Temples, b. 08/22/1852 +-- Marina3 Temples, b. 08/03/1862 South Carolina +-- J. Henry3 Temples, b. 02/08/1864 South Carolina +-- Lula3 Temples, b. 07/30/1867 South Carolina +-- Charlie L.3 Temples, b. 07/04/1870 South Carolina Prepared by:

MS TERRY W RYAN wrote: > > Ozzi: Since you put Stewart in the message on subscribing, do you > have a Temple/Stewart connection, as I do? Terry Ryan TERRY: I am the person who put that query. I have been searching for the Stewart/Temple connection. Could you share what you have? My connection goes back to Surry and Sussex Virginia. Peggy

Hi Linda in Malaysia and others: It's great to see all this volume on the Temple rootsweb. I have at least two Richard Temples in my direct line: Richard Temple b. 6 Oct 1674 in Concord, MA and Richard Temple (his grandfather) b. abt 1623 in England. I know there are lots moreTemples too. Check Park Temple's homepage for more data. Nancy Teachout Gardner _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I looking for info on my g, g, g, grandparents. Thomas TEMPLE b. 1815 KY, m. Rebecca CARROLL on 2 Jun 1836 in Madison Co. MS Rebecca was b. 1820 in NC. They had 6 children: James H.(my descendant), John, William A., Rebecca, Thomas Fairly, Minerva, all were born in MS. Who were Thomas and Rebecca's parents? My aunt said the Temples were Scotish/Irish. Any information on either one would be appreciated. Pam

Ozzi: Since you put Stewart in the message on subscribing, do you have a Temple/Stewart connection, as I do? Terry Ryan

In a previous e-mail I indicated that I was looking for information on the family of Conrad TEMPLE. I have since had inquiries for more information. This would lead me to believe that my first message did not include enough information to be of help - so, with appologies, I will try again. Conrad TEMPLE was born on 1 Apr 1808 in Hagerstown, Washington County, Maryland and died on 1 May 1862 in Washington County, Iowa. He married Margaret RITCHEY on 16 August 1829. They had 10 children. Conrad TEMPLE's father may have also been named Conrad. There is a Conrad TEMPLE listed in the 1790 census of Washington County, Maryland. The census lists Conrad TEMPLE as head of household with 1 male over the age of 16, one female over the age of 16, and 1 male child under the age of 16 - which could be Conrad (Jr)'s brother. The birth, marriage and death dates for Conrad (Jr) are from the RITCHEY family bible, so they may not be totally accurate. There are also 2 articles about the TEMPLE's of Maryland in the "Maryland Geneological Bulletin". The first is of a George and Mary TEMPLE in the Spring 1986 issue. The second is of a William TEMPLE in the Winter 1992 issue. If anyone has access to these 2 articles, I would appreciate a lookup to see if they might have some bearing on my research. Thanks for your patience. Bill Hansen Ottumwa, IA

Hi Robert, I saw your posting to Park --- I am the Pam who sent the message about "Temples - with an 's' ". My line goes back to James TEMPLES -- born presumably in MO, but possibly NC or TN . He married Celia HOWELL STRAWN ELLIS. He was the father of Lewis Ballard TEMPLES --- my g. grandfather. What do you know about these people....I sure can't find them.!! Pam Robert Temples wrote: > Dear Parker: > > > On one of you recent posting to a Pam, you pose a question - about the TEMPLES > > from the south. The information I sent you regarding Seaborn's line is > > varified up to him. It's Seaborn's father that we have not varified yet, do > > you have more varifaction or information regarding William C.TEMPLE and Mary > > FRANKLIN. William C.TEMPLE on one document to us showed him as Seaborn's > > father and that he was killed in the Florida Indian Wars. We suspect that > > after his fathers death, he lived with his mother ( a Mary A. Temple, head of > > house hold in the 1840 SC census with appropriate age and sexs shown that > > match for Seaborn, wife Rebecca, and children). This too needs varifaction. > > > > If the Pam mentioned in your e-mail is researching this line we want to > > communicate with her. Feel free to have her e-mail us. I've attached a > > Microsoft Word document showing my descentant chart. > > > Does anyone have any varifaction or information on the above family lines > > believed to have come down from the north(Va, NC,Tn?) to the Saluda and or > > Edgefield Co. areas of SC. about 1800-1810. > > Robert M. Temples > > > > > > >