Hi to all on the list, In doing this message I am digging in the family dirt----as the older members of the family say----but to me everyone has dirt or things that they do not like to talk about. It is all a part of the family story---and a part of us all. Here is my search and I hope someone can help me. My grandmother was Zilpha Catherine Campbell (might be found spelled Cathryn --she went by her middle name) born Oct 31, 1900 Williamsburg Kentucky (daughter of Francis Asbury "Frank" Campbell and Colice Simpson). I am trying to find info on the father of a child she had BEFORE she married my grandfather Lee Valentine. It is said the father was Charles Taylor. I do not know if my grandmother was married to this man or not. I do know that she went to Monroe Michigan to work in a ketchup factory, and this is where she gave birth to a son. I have not been able to find a birth certificate on him-----but ---my grandmother wrote his birth date and place of birth on the back of my father's birth certificate----My father was the 1st child born after she married my grandfather Lee Valentine. The childs first and middle name was Harry Edward. As I said I do not know if my grandmother was married to Charles Taylor or not---so I do not know if the last name of Harry Edward should be Taylor or Campbell. Harry Edward was born May 15, --the year might be 1920--1921--1922. I do not know if my grandmother met Charles Taylor in Kentucky or after she went to Michigan. After my grandparents marriage Harry always used Valentine for his last name. Catherine died in 1981 and took alot of secrets to her grave. Harry passed in Aug of 2001-------I am trying to help his children find their father's birth family. Rosalie Valentine Coon sleepingbeauty1@prodigy.net