Hi Folks, Another update. We're now up to -TWELVE- groupings of genetically related Taylors. And I've expanded Taylor Group 01 by one new member. That's in addition to one or two other groups that have been expanded by newly matching members. Oh, of the twelve groups - FIVE have members named Charles Taylor. Further, two groups have members named Earl, two with members named Richard, and yet another two with members named Thomas. I hope to not become too awfully confused by these developments... Dale ________________________________ Dale E. Reddick wrote: > Hi Folks, > > This morning the Taylor Family Genes project started out with just seven > groupings of genetically related Taylors. > > I've been spending some time this afternoon looking at individual > participants' results and comparing them against the rest of the > participants in the Taylor Family Genes project. > > As a result of these comparisons, then at present we are up to ELEVEN > groupings. Another group has had its membership expanded. > > Momentarily, I thought that even another genetic grouping had been found > (four men matched perfectly at 12 markers). However, all projected > members of this potential grouping had tested with at least 25 markers > (two at 25; one at 37; & another at 67). Their matches simply fell > apart beyond the 12 marker level. > > Given that last result (for the projected group), then some of the new > groups that were created today may yet fall apart and be removed. > > Oh, we have a total of 115 individuals who have results reported to us. > 31 of those individuals fit into the eleven groups that I've created. > > You can see the results at: > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/taylorfamilygenes/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on > > Dale E. Reddick >

Hi Folks, This morning the Taylor Family Genes project started out with just seven groupings of genetically related Taylors. I've been spending some time this afternoon looking at individual participants' results and comparing them against the rest of the participants in the Taylor Family Genes project. As a result of these comparisons, then at present we are up to ELEVEN groupings. Another group has had its membership expanded. Momentarily, I thought that even another genetic grouping had been found (four men matched perfectly at 12 markers). However, all projected members of this potential grouping had tested with at least 25 markers (two at 25; one at 37; & another at 67). Their matches simply fell apart beyond the 12 marker level. Given that last result (for the projected group), then some of the new groups that were created today may yet fall apart and be removed. Oh, we have a total of 115 individuals who have results reported to us. 31 of those individuals fit into the eleven groups that I've created. You can see the results at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/taylorfamilygenes/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on Dale E. Reddick

My guess? Adoption records somewhere back in time. Jo Kilbourn Psalm 112:1-2 RAOGK, Harford County, MD, USA Volunteer for RAOGK at http://www.raogk.org/ Check out our new Online Stores http://www.raogk.org/store or http://www.genealogyforyou.com/shop Researching: Abrams (Prussia, ME), Herbert (Germany, PA), Herrick (MA, OH), Hoeltge (Germany, KY), Hutchinson (OH), Jackson (PA, OH), Kilbourn (CT, NY, PA), Kolb (Germany, PA), Oberg (Sweden, MA), Schulze (Germany, KY), Shalit (Russia, ME, MA) Herrick Family Association 2007 Reunion in Lansing, MI September 20 - 23, 2007. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Taylor" <rtaylor@tds.net> To: <taylor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Interesting offer regarding genetic genealogicaltesting for Taylors. > > > Dear Dale, > > I just had my dna tested by family Tree. I received a printout of my > Y-dna with 49 matches. However, to my surprise there is not one Taylor > listed on the sheet out > of 49 12-marker matches. > > Where do I go from here? > > > Richard Taylor > > > -----Original Message----- > From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:24 PM > To: taylor@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TAYLOR] Interesting offer regarding genetic genealogical > testingfor Taylors. > > Hi Folks, > > I'm the co-administrator for the Taylor Family Genes DNA Surname Project > > hosted by Family Tree DNA. > > Today, FTDNA has initiated a lower-cost enrollment offer for those who > have already been tested by another DNA testing firm. This is a > below-cost, limited-time offer good through March 31, 2007. I've > examined the offer, and the prices are quite nicely low. > > Those of you who have already tested with FTDNA need not do anything. > This is an offer being made available only to those who have tested with > > other DNA testing companies. > > What does this mean? It means you can join with our 137 members > (Taylors and close kin of Taylors) and directly compare your results > with those measured by FTDNA for our Taylor Family Gene project. > > There's a LAB CONVERSION FORM which needs to be filled out and returned > to FTDNA. As can be seen from the form, payment is required to be > provided along with the form. This form can be found by going to this > provided URL: > > http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/PROMO_GAP.pdf > > I hope that some of you Taylors who have tested with other companies > will now take up this generous offer that's being made by FTDNA. Doing > so will allow more of you to be directly compared against other Taylors > who have already participated in the Taylor Family Genes project. We > have already established the existence of several genetically related > lineages of Taylors from among the participants of Taylor Family Genes. > > I would like to see us expand the membership of the lines already > established and also increase the total number of lineages known to us. > > Having more Taylors participate with us would increase our knowledge > base for Taylor genetics. > > Sincerely, > > Dale E. Reddick > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Richard, You have just encountered one of the problems that has developed as more and more people undertake DNA testing. So many people have now taken the 12 marker test that its usefulness is being swamped by the sheer number of individuals with those very -few- 12 markers. I now advise new participants to test at the 25 or 37 marker level of testing. This is a problem of random chance resemblance between the individuals tested placed against such a small number of tested markers (12). This is especially true for western European folks who are part of the R1b haplogroup. Individuals with R1b haplotypes tend to group together under those first 12 markers. Plus, there's convergence - where chance mutations cause those who aren't related to resemble one another. The solution to this problem is what I advise folks who ask me about testing. Start with either a 25 or 37 marker Y-STR test. That will eliminate many of those 12 marker false positive matches. Most such fall away at either the 25 or the 37 marker levels of testing. However, it has occurred that such 'matches' haven't fallen apart until people have taken the available 67 marker test. But then, from my other project I know of two men who match on 66 of 67 markers and they do not share the same surname. One is a Ruddick and the other a Hull. However, both have Irish ancestry from County Down (or Antrim - I can't recall). Their individual genealogical tracks lead back to the same geographical region. It is likely that they are actually genetically related, even though they don't share the same surname. This simply reflects upon the relatively recent adoption of surnames within the last 500 or so years (plus or minus, according to place). Their last common ancestor likely lived just prior to the common adoption of surnames in that region of Ireland. Per RootsWeb policy, I cannot mention prices for services. However, you can go to the FTDNA site and see just how much it would cost you to upgrade from your 12 marker test to either the 25 or 37 marker level of testing. Upgrade and you'll see many of those 49 matches disappear. Also, upload your results to Ysearch.org and then try a comparison of your results against their database. You might find a matching Taylor who tested through another DNA testing firm such as Relative Genetics. Unfortunately, there are SIX separate surname projects that list Taylor as a participating surname at RG. Five of those projects actually contain tested participants (I checked this just a few hours ago). This is unfortunate because it splits up the pool of Taylors and makes it difficult to compare them for matches among the other Taylors who have been tested. But then, others may have a different philosophy or worldview when it comes to trying to discover who they are related to. I hope that these suggestions prove to be helpful. Dale ________________________________ Richard Taylor wrote: > Dear Dale, > > I just had my dna tested by family Tree. I received a printout of my > Y-dna with 49 matches. However, to my surprise there is not one Taylor > listed on the sheet out > of 49 12-marker matches. > > Where do I go from here? > > > Richard Taylor > > >

Dear Dale, I just had my dna tested by family Tree. I received a printout of my Y-dna with 49 matches. However, to my surprise there is not one Taylor listed on the sheet out of 49 12-marker matches. Where do I go from here? Richard Taylor -----Original Message----- From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:24 PM To: taylor@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAYLOR] Interesting offer regarding genetic genealogical testingfor Taylors. Hi Folks, I'm the co-administrator for the Taylor Family Genes DNA Surname Project hosted by Family Tree DNA. Today, FTDNA has initiated a lower-cost enrollment offer for those who have already been tested by another DNA testing firm. This is a below-cost, limited-time offer good through March 31, 2007. I've examined the offer, and the prices are quite nicely low. Those of you who have already tested with FTDNA need not do anything. This is an offer being made available only to those who have tested with other DNA testing companies. What does this mean? It means you can join with our 137 members (Taylors and close kin of Taylors) and directly compare your results with those measured by FTDNA for our Taylor Family Gene project. There's a LAB CONVERSION FORM which needs to be filled out and returned to FTDNA. As can be seen from the form, payment is required to be provided along with the form. This form can be found by going to this provided URL: http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/PROMO_GAP.pdf I hope that some of you Taylors who have tested with other companies will now take up this generous offer that's being made by FTDNA. Doing so will allow more of you to be directly compared against other Taylors who have already participated in the Taylor Family Genes project. We have already established the existence of several genetically related lineages of Taylors from among the participants of Taylor Family Genes. I would like to see us expand the membership of the lines already established and also increase the total number of lineages known to us. Having more Taylors participate with us would increase our knowledge base for Taylor genetics. Sincerely, Dale E. Reddick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hallo Listers, I am new to this list and would like to further research this branch of the family. James Henry TAYLOR b.1825 in Royton. Lancs married Eliza RYLANCE b. 1826 in Haughton. Lancs and married in 1848 at Hudderfield. York Children were: Rylance TAYLOR b.1850/51 m Clara ROWSON in 1875 with - Edith Clara TAYLOR b.1877 Manchester - William Rylance TAYLOR b. 1879 m. Rosa GERDES Henry (Harry) Ashton TAYLOR b.1866 - Stalybridge (The Angel Inn) James Chadwick TAYLOR b.1868 - Gorton, with - m(1) Mary Ann FOX in 1893 son Harry Rylance TAYLOR - m(2) Emma Elizabeth THIES 1910 daughter Edith Ward TAYLOR If you are a decendant or have further information, I have more information to relate - please ask. Gillie.

Hi Folks, I'm the co-administrator for the Taylor Family Genes DNA Surname Project hosted by Family Tree DNA. Today, FTDNA has initiated a lower-cost enrollment offer for those who have already been tested by another DNA testing firm. This is a below-cost, limited-time offer good through March 31, 2007. I've examined the offer, and the prices are quite nicely low. Those of you who have already tested with FTDNA need not do anything. This is an offer being made available only to those who have tested with other DNA testing companies. What does this mean? It means you can join with our 137 members (Taylors and close kin of Taylors) and directly compare your results with those measured by FTDNA for our Taylor Family Gene project. There's a LAB CONVERSION FORM which needs to be filled out and returned to FTDNA. As can be seen from the form, payment is required to be provided along with the form. This form can be found by going to this provided URL: http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/PROMO_GAP.pdf I hope that some of you Taylors who have tested with other companies will now take up this generous offer that's being made by FTDNA. Doing so will allow more of you to be directly compared against other Taylors who have already participated in the Taylor Family Genes project. We have already established the existence of several genetically related lineages of Taylors from among the participants of Taylor Family Genes. I would like to see us expand the membership of the lines already established and also increase the total number of lineages known to us. Having more Taylors participate with us would increase our knowledge base for Taylor genetics. Sincerely, Dale E. Reddick

Still looking for: David Taylor born in England in mid 1830s, listed in Arkansas census in Batesville in 1880 as married to Kate Wilkerson with 3 children - Andrew, Lula and George my grandmother, Bertha Louise, was said to have been born to this family in mid 1880s in same location and Kate died at her birth she was given to William and Lucy York to raise at the age of 2 - 4 - same location - they moved to Texas by 1900 story is that a man/boy and 2 young girls rode up on a horse to the York farm outside of Batesville the Yorks were asked to take the girls but they declined to take the older one - said to have had leg deformity the York's story was that they had never seen any of the 3 before but they gave my grandmother the names of her family as shown in the 1880 census without mention of George - in addition one of the York son's was given the middle name of Wilkerson - Kate's maiden name i don't buy the never knew them before part because the Yorks argued to the day they died over whether they got my grandmother when she was 2 or 4 - i figure there is quite a noticeable difference in the capabilities of a 2 vs 4 year old so that if they couldn't remember that simple fact how could they remember the names of a family they had never known the 1860 census of Woodruff County has a David Taylor from England married to someone else and a Kate Wilkerson living with the Enoch Morrison family as a housekeeper - the Morrison daughters had names similar to Lula and Louise, the names given Kate Wilkerson Taylor's 2 girls all of this seems like more than coincidence to me but can't find any proof thanks for any help with this!!

Have you thought of scanning photos for "Dead Fred.com"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Cardiel" <cardiels@comcast.net> To: <TAYLOR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: [TAYLOR] TAYLOR Family Photograph Album I've "rescued" an old photograph album which appears to have belonged to the TAYLOR Family of Bloomingdale, Pennsylvania. I am having a difficult time determining which "Bloomingdale, PA" the TAYLOR Family lived in as there appear to be three in Pennsylvania. A majority of the photographs in the album are unidentified; however, there are three letters in the front of the album all addressed to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR at Bloomingdale, PA. A photograph in the back of the album is addressed "To Minerva" suggesting that the "M" may be from "Minerva", though it is just a guess. I did find some information regarding Frank GREENWOOD who I believe appears in the album. I've included census information regarding the GREENWOOD Family below. Items in the album include: TAYLOR Family Photograph Album . Unidentified Group Photograph, W. E. Griswold Studio in New York City, 1890's, infants to 70's, I think some of the people included later are also in this photograph . Letter to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR of Bloomingdale, PA, June 8 1933 from Brooklyn, NY, addressed to "Sis" from "Wilson" . Letter to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR of Bloomingdale, PA, Sept 25 1930 from Brooklyn, NY, inside an envelope with the note "The Chas. NEEDLE Hebrew Letter 1891" written on an envelope from the Palmer Photoplay Corporation in Hollywood, Calif. . Letter to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR of Bloomingdale, PA, Apr 11 1924 from Charles Scribner's & Sons in New York City, regarding magazines on period furniture . Obit photograph of "The Late Professor Benton E. JAMES" taken from the newspaper . Unidentified infant, no studio or loc, 1900's, 1 year old . Unidentified Male, Lyons Studio in Montrose, PA, 1890's, man in his 70's . Unidentified Children, no studio or loc, 1900's, girl about 3, boy about 5 years . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1900's, woman in her 40's or 50's . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890's, girl in teens . Unidentified Couple, no studio or loc, 1900's, couple in their 30's . Unidentified Male, Montauk View Co. in Elk Lake, PA, 1890's, boy in teens . Unidentified Children, no studio or loc, 1900's, boy about 4, boy about 7, and girl about 10 years . Unidentified Couple, no studio or loc, 1900's, couple in their 50's . Unidentified Female, F. Van Houten Studio in Franklin Forks, PA, 1900's, girl about 6-7 years . Unidentified Male, Montauk View Co. in Elk Lake, PA, 1890's, man in 50's . Unidentified Male, Doolittle Studio in Montrose, PA, 1870's or 1880's, man in 30's or 40's . Unidentified Children, Montauk View Co. in Elk Lake, PA, 1900's, four boys ages about 4-10 years . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890's, man in his 60's . Unidentified Female, Doolittle Studio in Montrose, PA, 1870's or 1880's, woman in her 20's . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890's, woman in her 40's . Unidentified Boy, no studio or loc, 1890's, boy about 6 years . Unidentified Females, no studio or loc, 1890's, teens or 20's . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890's, teens . F. GREENWOOD of Springville, PA, no studio or loc, 1890's, man in 20's 1900 census of Springville, PA: Frank GREENWOOD, age 46, born Dec 1853, married 18 years, born PA, parents born MA, a Merchant Elzira M. GREENWOOD, wife, age 45, born June 1854, married 18 years, 2 children/2 living, born PA, parents born NJ, a Housekeeper Ray W. GREENWOOD, son, age 14, born Feb 1886, born PA, a Newsboy Meta E. GREENWOOD, dau, age 7, born Jan 1893, born PA 1910 census of Springville, PA: Frank GREENWOOD, age 56, married 29 years, born PA, parents born MA/PA, a Dry Goods Merchant Elzira GREENWOOD, wife, age 55, married 29 years, 2 children/2 living, born PA, parents born NJ Ray GREENWOOD, son, age 24, born PA Meta GREENWOOD, dau, age 17, born PA 1920 census of Springville, PA: S. Frank GREENWOOD, age 66, born PA, parents born CT/PA, a Retail Store Merchant M. Elgia GREENWOOD, wife, age 65, born PA, parents born NJ . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890's, in his teens . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890's, in his teens . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890's, in his teens . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890's, in her teens . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890's, in her teens . "Emma", no studio or loc, 1890's, in her teens, Note "To Minerva" . Unidentified Female, Doolittle Studio in Montrose, PA, 1870's or 1880's, woman in her 20's, note smaller version of earlier photograph . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890's, in his teens . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890's, girl about 3 years I am hoping to be able to return the album to family so I'd appreciate your contacting me if you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be. Thanks, Shelley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I’ve “rescued” an old photograph album which appears to have belonged to the TAYLOR Family of Bloomingdale, Pennsylvania.  I am having a difficult time determining which “Bloomingdale, PA” the TAYLOR Family lived in as there appear to be three in Pennsylvania.  A majority of the photographs in the album are unidentified; however, there are three letters in the front of the album all addressed to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR at Bloomingdale, PA.  A photograph in the back of the album is addressed “To Minerva” suggesting that the “M” may be from “Minerva”, though it is just a guess. I did find some information regarding Frank GREENWOOD who I believe appears in the album. I’ve included census information regarding the GREENWOOD Family below. Items in the album include: TAYLOR Family Photograph Album • Unidentified Group Photograph, W. E. Griswold Studio in New York City, 1890’s, infants to 70’s, I think some of the people included later are also in this photograph • Letter to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR of Bloomingdale, PA, June 8 1933 from Brooklyn, NY, addressed to “Sis” from “Wilson” • Letter to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR of Bloomingdale, PA, Sept 25 1930 from Brooklyn, NY, inside an envelope with the note “The Chas. NEEDLE Hebrew Letter 1891” written on an envelope from the Palmer Photoplay Corporation in Hollywood, Calif. • Letter to Miss M. Gertrude TAYLOR of Bloomingdale, PA, Apr 11 1924 from Charles Scribner’s & Sons in New York City, regarding magazines on period furniture • Obit photograph of “The Late Professor Benton E. JAMES” taken from the newspaper • Unidentified infant, no studio or loc, 1900’s, 1 year old • Unidentified Male, Lyons Studio in Montrose, PA, 1890’s, man in his 70’s • Unidentified Children, no studio or loc, 1900’s, girl about 3, boy about 5 years • Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1900’s, woman in her 40’s or 50’s • Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890’s, girl in teens • Unidentified Couple, no studio or loc, 1900’s, couple in their 30’s • Unidentified Male, Montauk View Co. in Elk Lake, PA, 1890’s, boy in teens • Unidentified Children, no studio or loc, 1900’s, boy about 4, boy about 7, and girl about 10 years • Unidentified Couple, no studio or loc, 1900’s, couple in their 50’s • Unidentified Female, F. Van Houten Studio in Franklin Forks, PA, 1900’s, girl about 6-7 years • Unidentified Male, Montauk View Co. in Elk Lake, PA, 1890’s, man in 50’s • Unidentified Male, Doolittle Studio in Montrose, PA, 1870’s or 1880’s, man in 30’s or 40’s • Unidentified Children, Montauk View Co. in Elk Lake, PA, 1900’s, four boys ages about 4-10 years • Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890’s, man in his 60’s • Unidentified Female, Doolittle Studio in Montrose, PA, 1870’s or 1880’s, woman in her 20’s • Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890’s, woman in her 40’s • Unidentified Boy, no studio or loc, 1890’s, boy about 6 years • Unidentified Females, no studio or loc, 1890’s, teens or 20’s • Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890’s, teens • F. GREENWOOD of Springville, PA, no studio or loc, 1890’s, man in 20’s 1900 census of Springville, PA: Frank GREENWOOD, age 46, born Dec 1853, married 18 years, born PA, parents born MA, a Merchant Elzira M. GREENWOOD, wife, age 45, born June 1854, married 18 years, 2 children/2 living, born PA, parents born NJ, a Housekeeper Ray W. GREENWOOD, son, age 14, born Feb 1886, born PA, a Newsboy Meta E. GREENWOOD, dau, age 7, born Jan 1893, born PA 1910 census of Springville, PA: Frank GREENWOOD, age 56, married 29 years, born PA, parents born MA/PA, a Dry Goods Merchant Elzira GREENWOOD, wife, age 55, married 29 years, 2 children/2 living, born PA, parents born NJ Ray GREENWOOD, son, age 24, born PA Meta GREENWOOD, dau, age 17, born PA 1920 census of Springville, PA: S. Frank GREENWOOD, age 66, born PA, parents born CT/PA, a Retail Store Merchant M. Elgia GREENWOOD, wife, age 65, born PA, parents born NJ • Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in his teens • Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in his teens • Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in his teens • Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in her teens • Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in her teens • “Emma”, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in her teens, Note “To Minerva” • Unidentified Female, Doolittle Studio in Montrose, PA, 1870’s or 1880’s, woman in her 20’s, note smaller version of earlier photograph • Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1890’s, in his teens • Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1890’s, girl about 3 years I am hoping to be able to return the album to family so I’d appreciate your contacting me if you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be. Thanks, Shelley

Hi Some time ago there was a request, on one of these lists, for information about HM Customs & Excise. Since then two new 'lists' have come to my attention. The HM Customs & Excise mailing list - hm_customs -excise-request@rootsweb.com - A Mailing List for all those who have an interest in HM Customs & Excise', it's history, area's of work and personnel, before it's amalgamation with the Inland Revenue in 2005. The HM Customs Waterguard mailing list - hm-customs-waterguard-request@rootsweb.com - A Mailing List for all those who have an interest in the 'Preventive Service' of HM Customs & Excise, it's history, area's of work and personnel, before the 'Re-organisation' of 1972. Good Huntin' Trevor Tomasin Primarily researching - BANTON - BULL - COLLIS - LEAVERS - HOPKINS - KNIGHT - MOODY - PERKIS - PURCHASE - PURCHES - STRETTEN - TAYLOR - THOMASIN - TOMASIN & VINCENT - but always with an interest in their spouses and their siblings! See the full list at www.tomasin.org.uk - in 'The TOMASIN Family History Project'! This e-mail, and any attachments to it, have been automatically checked for 'nasties' by Zone Labs' ZoneAlarm 6.

First off, I had some conversation with Martha Linker this AM. She said to inform you that she has had a stroke-no paralysis, but her vision has been effected so she is not on the internet much. If you did sheetmetal work like you do genealogy you were a craftsman of the first order! No finer sheetmetal man ever walked the face of earth than my dad! Martha Linker says our Jacob TAYLORs' do not match up. Which brings to mind the the Isaac TAYLORs that you have. Could my Jacob possibly be a descendant of your cousin Isaac cousin Isaac? Pull for the 'Tar Heels" tonight when they play Miami in 'Blue Heaven"-Chapel Hill. There is a winter storm on the way so we are going to attempt there and back to hopefully escape the ice by staying over. I printed out the seventy plus pages that Theo Halstead sent down WOW. Ray

Hello, is there anyone on this list who is a descendant of John Taylor born abt 1811 in Rowan North Carolina. He married Isabella about 1831 and after her death married Mary? John is a descendant of Augustus Taylor and Nancy Jones both born in N.C. also. This family moved to Hardeman Co, TN between 1830 and 1850. I am interested in John and Isabella's son Samuel. I think he may be an ancestor of mine. Lori

Earl, Since Robert Taylors are pretty much a dime a dozon, I can understand your confusion! No, I don't know Robert W Taylor, but am definitely interested in what he has. I received Wesley W Taylor's pension records from NARA (about 300 pages worth!) on Friday, and in an affidavit dated 1 Apr 1898 B. Matilda Taylor stated she had 5 children from Wesley, and my ggrandfather, Withford G. Taylor, father of Cyrus C. Taylor, was then living in Larkspur, CO. I'm very much interested if Robert W. Taylor's grandfather was Cyrus C. or Cyrus G. Taylor; Cyrus G. being Withford's brother, and Cyrus C. Taylor's uncle. The other children of Wesley and Matilda are listed as follows: 1. Flora E. Jones (married Charles H. Jones 21 Jul 1883, Edgar Co., IL; previously married to John M. Brown 25 Nov 1876 in Edgar Co., IL) Iola, KS 2. Charles Taylor, deceased. (Could this be the Charles Burtin Taylor you mentioned? He would have been born around 1857-8) 3. Calista Wishard, Toronto, IN (Vermillion Co.) (She's listed as Amelia C. in the 1860 census) 4. Cyrus Taylor, Toronto, IN (he and Calista were living together in the 1900 census with their mother, Betsy M. Taylor, Helt Twp, Vermillion Co., IN) In this same affidavit, Matilda Taylor states Wesley had two sisters: 1. Sarah F. Hollingsworth, living in Kansas City, MO 2. Belle Ligett, living in Paris, Edgar Co., IL (Edmund Liggett married Belle Taylor 5 Jan 1870 in Edgar Co, IL). The records show Wesley left Paris 9 Feb 1889 for the silver or gold mines of Colorado, his last letters being to his sons in March 1889, then nothing more was heard from or about him. He had lived in Pikes Peak, CO, in 1858, and one record has him in CA 1849! Wesley and Matilda lived at 708 N. Central Ave, Paris. She lived with a son for 6 months, until she moved to Toronto, IN, spring 1890 and lived in a small house provided by Cyrus G. She was bed-ridden from July 1897. She apparently passed away between 1900 and 1910, and I expect is buried in Vermillion Co. In addition to his service with the 79th IL Vols (Co. D), Wesley was also apparently involved with recruiting Co F, 11 IN Cav 1863-65, being elected a 2nd LT, but never being officially commissioned. He was also stabbed by a Frank Scott in Paris for reasons unknown. Hopefully, some of this rings a bell with someone! Robert Lee Taylor R.Taylor211@verizon.net 805-216-7992 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earl Taylor" <eht2060@keyway.net> To: <taylor@rootsweb.com>; <robert@rwtdesign.com>; "Cecil Robert Taylor" <CECILR3456@msn.com>; <rdtaylor4texas@aol.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors in Edgar Co, IL > Robert L Taylor; There are too many Robert Taylors and I had you confused > with Robert W Taylor of CO, Cyrus was his grandfather too. Do you know each > other? Do you both have Charles Burtin Taylor as a relative? > > Earl H Taylor > eht2060@keyway.net > (909) 593 2652 > yahoo IM eht2060 > AOL IM eht2060 > http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of ROBERT TAYLOR > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:30 PM > To: taylor@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors in Edgar Co, IL > > Earl, Dad's birth certificate (a delayed one, dated 14 Apr 1944, shows my > grandfather as Cyrus C. Taylor, DOB unknown, POB IL. He married my > grandmother, Polly Veatrice Crews in Jackson County, OK, Jan 1914. He > appears in the 1880 US Census as the son of Withford and Jennie A.K. Paddock > > Taylor, age 2, in Paris, Edgar Co., IL. Withford's father and Cyrus' > grandfather was Wesley W. Taylor, who married Betsy Matilda Jones 18 Jul > 1852 in Edgar Co., IL, and who appears in the 1860, 1870 and 1880 US > censuses in Edgar County. Wesley's father was apparently a T.P.L. Taylor > who shows in the 1850 census for Helt, Vermillion Co., IN, with his wife, > Sarah, both born in TN. I haven't located Cyrus in the 1900 and 1910 US > census, and I haven't been able to trace the family to where they came from > in TN. I'm interested in what you have for this Charles Burtin Taylor. > Cyrus was probably born between 28 Jun 1877 and 26 Feb 1878 (he's listed as > 39 when Dad was born 26 Feb 1917, and 2 when enumerated 28 Jun 1880 in the > 1880 US census). There's some thought that Wesley's father might have been > Theodore Taylor, who shows up in the Helt, Vermillion Co., IN 1840 US census > > with the right mix of children. That's about all I have right now. > > Robert Lee Taylor > R.Taylor211@verizon.net > 805-216-7992 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Earl Taylor" <eht2060@keyway.net> > To: <taylor@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors in Edgar Co, IL > > > > Robert; I have your grampa as Charles Burtin Taylor, now you say your > grampa > > was Cyrus C Taylor. Which is correct? > > > > Earl H Taylor > > eht2060@keyway.net > > (909) 593 2652 > > yahoo IM eht2060 > > AOL IM eht2060 > > http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > > Behalf Of ROBERT TAYLOR > > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:15 PM > > To: taylor@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors in Edgar Co, IL > > > > Earl, > > > > I don't know that it means anything, but I noticed you mention OK a > > lot, and my grandpa, Cyrus C. Taylor headed that way sometime after > 1880. > > He met my grandmother and married her in Jackson Co (Altus?) Jan 1914 > after > > she divorced her husband, Joseph Warren McLain. Her maiden name was > Polly > > Veatrice Crews, daughter of Thomas Covington Crews and Sibby Eleanor > O'Hair, > > > > who moved to Ardmore, OK, in 1893 from TX. Wonder if he had kin there? > > > > I'm also following your DNA issue, too - interesting! Wonder who'd > > I'd match up with? > > > > r/Bob T > > Robert Taylor > > Oxnard, CA > > (805) 216-7992 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Earl Taylor" <eht2060@keyway.net> > > To: <taylor@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors in Edgar Co, IL > > > > > > > Robert; You and all the other Taylors you name hit a nerve. I don't > > connect > > > to any of your names but Robert and Wesley are big in my family line. > > My > > > father was James Wesley Taylor b 1894 Wharton Co, TX his uncle was > > Charles > > > Wesley Taylor b 1865 Wharton Co. TX. There have been many more > Wesleys > > down > > > thru the years. I always thought it was because they were Methodists. > > I > > > descend from; > > > Isaac Taylor b ca 1700 Antrim, Ireland & Isabella Wilson Came to VA > Abt > > 1737 > > > Isaac Taylor Jr & Emmaline (Ware)? > > > Joseph Taylor & Jane Blackburn > > > Albert C Taylor & Martha Barnard > > > William M Taylor & Eliza Osburn > > > James A Taylor & Rebecca Vickers > > > James Wesley Taylor & Neva Elliott > > > EARL H TAYLOR (Me)1918 & Mary E Van Bibber > > > > > > Earl H Taylor > > > eht2060@keyway.net > > > (909) 593 2652 > > > yahoo IM eht2060 > > > AOL IM eht2060 > > > http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On > > > Behalf Of ROBERT TAYLOR > > > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:14 PM > > > To: TAYLOR@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [TAYLOR] Taylors in Edgar Co, IL > > > > > > I'd appreciate any info (birth, death, burial, probate, estate) for > > > following Taylors anyone with the resources can dig up: > > > > > > Wesley W. Taylor, born 1833 Indiana, married 18 Jul 1852 Edgar Co, > IL, > > Betsy > > > Matilda Jones (born 1833 Edgar Co, Illinois). He arrived Edgar Co > after > > > 1853, farmer until after 1870 census, then attorney in Paris, Edgar > Co., > > > > IL. > > > Served Co D, 79th IL Inf Reg as CPL until disabled Jan 1864. He > > disappears > > > after 1880 census, although son Cyrus G. Taylor and daughter Amelia > > Wishort > > > are in 1910 Paris, Edgar, IL census. > > > > > > Withford G. Taylor (Wesley's son), born 1853, Helt Township, > Vermillion > > Co, > > > Indiana, married 5 Mar 1874, Edgar Co, IL, Jennie A.K. Paddock (born > > 1855 > > > NY). He was a farmer in Paris, Edgar, Il, and disappears after 1880 > > census. > > > Jennie is also illusive. > > > > > > Cyrus C. Taylor (Withford's son), born around 1877 Paris, Edgar, IL. > > He, > > > too, disappears until I find him married to my grandmother, Polly > > Veatrice > > > Crews, in Altus, OK, in 1920, having married her in Jan 1914, and > being > > > identified in the 1920 census as K M Jones. He disappears again > after > > 1922. > > > > > > Robert Taylor > > > (805) 216-7992 (c) > > > R.Taylor211@verizon.net > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ray; I have taken two Taylor DNA tests. One from Relative genetics and the other from Family Tree. So far they have produced one cousin Jeb Stuart Taylor of Falls Church, VA and we have been unable to find a connection. He always believed he was related to line of Pres Zachary Taylor, My family has the Legend that we are also related to Zachary. Zach's family, Jeb's family and my family all share the same area ie James River Valley VA, Orange Co. and we share many names. My Taylors were Scots-Irish from Antrim, Ulster, Ireland. Zach's family came from England to VA early 1600s, My Taylors came from Antrim to same place EARLY 1700s and share many first names, COINCIDENCE??? I have Smith ancestors too My g grandmother was Sarah Elizabeth Smith of Somerset Co. VA and Preston Co. WV She was b 28 Jan 1854 Preston Co. WV. She married Lewis Maxwell Hoff and died 4 Oct 1929 Burr Oak, Jewel CO.KS Earl H Taylor eht2060@keyway.net (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Murray Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:37 PM To: taylor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Jacob TAYLOR Ray, your message caught my attention. Have any of that Taylor group done a DNA test? If so I would like to compare. I see the question you're asking and mine might fall in that group. Send a private e-mail. Murray Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray H. Smith" <rsmith2092@carolina.rr.com> To: <taylor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Jacob TAYLOR > Thank you for responding! > > My mother in law was a TAYLOR and the TAYLOR cousins are getting ready to > have a fifth TAYLOR Cousins Reunion at Lake Norman, NC come May of this > year, and I was trying to go further back in time before Jacob. > > Is this TAYLOR Family of English decent or do they fall under the > "Schneider" set of TAYLORs? > > I will surely contact the two gentlemen who's address you have graciously > provided. > > Ray in Gaston County, NC > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ray; I think Jacob Taylor is a descendant of "Cousin Isaac Taylor" some degree of cousin of my ancestor Isaac Taylor. They lived close together, moved together, died almost together and named their kids mostly the same names. Paul Phelps and Theodore Halstead are descendants of Cousin Isaac. I have Taylor cousins in NC Martha Linker. Maybe she can help you<mlatclem@aol.com> (336) 766 6514 Clemmons, NC. Theo sent me a Gedcom of Cyrus Taylor I haven't read it all yet but after I enter it I can print forms. Earl H Taylor eht2060@keyway.net (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:taylor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray H. Smith Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:46 AM To: Genealogy, TAYLOR-L Subject: [TAYLOR] Attn. Paul Phelps Might I communicate with you about perhaps a mutual ancestor Jacob TAYLOR b. 1804 in Mecklenburg CCo., NC d. after 1860 in NC. An Isaac TAYLOR will be among his ancestors. We are planning a TAYLOR cousins (descendants of William David TAYLOR) reunion at Lake Norman in NC this May and would love to have the information you may possibly have concerning Jacob to pass on to th cousins! Thank You. I am Ray Smith in Cherryville, NC. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Might I communicate with you about perhaps a mutual ancestor Jacob TAYLOR b. 1804 in Mecklenburg CCo., NC d. after 1860 in NC. An Isaac TAYLOR will be among his ancestors. We are planning a TAYLOR cousins (descendants of William David TAYLOR) reunion at Lake Norman in NC this May and would love to have the information you may possibly have concerning Jacob to pass on to th cousins! Thank You. I am Ray Smith in Cherryville, NC.

Hi Ray, Just to be sure... Has no one saved an old comb, hairbrush, toothbrush, or other personal momento of William Glenn Taylor? There are some DNA extraction techniques available to us that don't require either a cheek swab or a blood sample. That is to say, other sorts of personal remains might be testable. Although, after nearly 18 years even I'm not too optimistic about anything. Dale E. Reddick Taylor Family Genes DNA Surname Project (at FTDNA) ___________________________________________ Ray H. Smith wrote: > Murray, our chances for DNA testing ran out with the death of William Glenn > TAYLOR on February 15,1989-the only son of William David TAYLOR. > William David was the son of Sidney TAYLOR b. April 10, 1827, d. September > 28, 1904.Buried in Esatview Cemetery Newton, Catawba Co., NC. > Sidney was the son of Jacob TAYLOR b. 1804 in Mecklenburg Co., NC, d. after > the 1860, burial unknown. His wife was an unknown Elizabeth. Her burial site > is also unknown. > > Nice of you to respond. Ray > > >

Murray, our chances for DNA testing ran out with the death of William Glenn TAYLOR on February 15,1989-the only son of William David TAYLOR. William David was the son of Sidney TAYLOR b. April 10, 1827, d. September 28, 1904.Buried in Esatview Cemetery Newton, Catawba Co., NC. Sidney was the son of Jacob TAYLOR b. 1804 in Mecklenburg Co., NC, d. after the 1860, burial unknown. His wife was an unknown Elizabeth. Her burial site is also unknown. Nice of you to respond. Ray

Ray, your message caught my attention. Have any of that Taylor group done a DNA test? If so I would like to compare. I see the question you're asking and mine might fall in that group. Send a private e-mail. Murray Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray H. Smith" <rsmith2092@carolina.rr.com> To: <taylor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Jacob TAYLOR > Thank you for responding! > > My mother in law was a TAYLOR and the TAYLOR cousins are getting ready to > have a fifth TAYLOR Cousins Reunion at Lake Norman, NC come May of this > year, and I was trying to go further back in time before Jacob. > > Is this TAYLOR Family of English decent or do they fall under the > "Schneider" set of TAYLORs? > > I will surely contact the two gentlemen who's address you have graciously > provided. > > Ray in Gaston County, NC > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TAYLOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message