In a message dated 2/14/2005 2:42:45 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Take theTaylor DNA test and find out! My understanding is the irrefutable DNA is passed from father to son. My question is, would any good come from a female taking any kind of DNA test? LindaB

I am interested in connections of Taylors with Native Americans. In several exchanges I have raised the question whether the Ester Blackburn, who married Zachary Taylor, the grandfather of Gen. and Pres. Zachary T., was an NA. Like so many Taylors we have the tradition that our Taylors are connected to Pres. Zachary Taylor, which my great grandfather unhesitantly told his Rathbone cousins was a fact. He and his father, Cornelius Taylor, knew the Gen., so there may be some truth in this, though I have never been able prove it. The suspicion of an NA in our Taylor family comes from the observation that, though a father Isaac Taylor, was named for Cornelius' sister, Deborah Taylor who married Edmund Rathbone, a mother was never mentioned. Also, Cornelius T. had some facial and other characteristics that might indicate an NA ancestry. Can any one address this question of Zachary Taylor's second wife with any good evidence? EdT of PGH -------------- On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Anne wrote: > Linda, > > Have you actually traced all your lines all the way "across the pond"? > If so, you are surely to be congratulated. Many if not most of us have > not gotten nearly so far. > > I'm one who is pretty sure that "myths" of Native American ancestry in > some of my lines contain are pretty certainly true. In many ways, they > are harder to prove than tracing a line back to England or Germany. > > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: [TAYLOR] JOHN M & MARY TAYLOR - 1810-1853 - MD > > >> Yep.....my father has always told me that there was Native American >> Indian >> in our line. I have us going back all the way "across the >> pond"....and I >> have no evidence of Native Americans anywhere in our line. Even >> though I >> have provided Dad with citations and sources, he refuses to accept >> that >> there is no Native American blood in our German/English lines. >> >> Some myths die hard <grin> >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:54 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] JOHN M & MARY TAYLOR - 1810-1853 - MD >> >> It is amazing how many family stories are simply wrong. Perhaps >> there is >> some truth in the stories we have been told, but, it is difficult >> trying to >> find >> it. Lyle >> >> >> ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget to change the subject line when the topic changes. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget to change the subject line when the topic changes. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:[email protected] > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:[email protected] > Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in subject and body of message > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Have you ever listed any of the data you have collected over the years on any Genealogy web site.I searched the names you listed, found none. It might help your cause to list, even on a free website. Not related to my family Wally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005

Linda; Don't you have any male Taylor relatives? It can be done thru females but it is a complicated process, from mother to daughter and who knows? Name changes every generation. Earl H Taylor [email protected] (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TAYLOR] DNA In a message dated 2/14/2005 2:42:45 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Take theTaylor DNA test and find out! My understanding is the irrefutable DNA is passed from father to son. My question is, would any good come from a female taking any kind of DNA test? LindaB ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== Don't forget to change the subject line when the topic changes. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Anne; I have found the story on many occasions and for a while thought that was the basis of our story that we were related to family of Pres Zach. My Taylors lived very close to Zach's family in VA Earl H Taylor [email protected] (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: Ann Blomquist [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TAYLOR] Re: Zachary Taylor's second wife? There is NO evidence that Zachary Taylor (1707-1768, grandfather of President Zachary Taylor) ever married anyone name Esther Blackburn. This is an internet myth which has no documentation. Since the family did not include any second wife on the family plaque, it is doubtful that Zachary married after Elizabeth's death. Though the narrative below isn't complete because I don't have access to some records, this is a documented narrative of this Zachary Taylor. Ann Blomquist Orlando, FL Descendants of Zachary Taylor 1. ZACHARY3 TAYLOR (JAMES2, JAMES1) was born Apr 17, 1707 in King & Queen Co VA, and died 1768 in Orange Co VA. He married (1) DAUGHTER LEA c 1730 in VA, daughter of JOHN LEA and ANN. She was born c 1708, and died Bet. 1730 - 1734 in VA. He married (2) ELIZABETH LEE c 1734 in prob Caroline Co VA, daughter of HANCOCK LEE and SARAH ALLERTON. She was born 1709 in Westmoreland Co VA, and died 1753 in Orange Co VA. Notes for ZACHARY TAYLOR: Zachary Taylor was born in 1707 in New Kent Co VA. However, by 1721 his father took the family back to King & Queen Co where the family had lived earlier. In 1721, Spotsylvania County was formed from part of King & Queen. On 3 Oct 1727, Zachary's father James gave him 1000 acres "at the Little Mountains and on ye south side Rapidan River in St. George's Parish, Spotsylvania County" for 5 shillings. (Crozier, 100) Zachary was about 20 years old and he was already identified as "of St. George's Parish, Spotsylvania County. (Crozier, 100) On Sep 28 1728, Zachary and his brothers George and Erasmus, all "of King & Queen County" each patented 1000 acres in Spotsylvania County. Zachary's tract was located "at the foot of the Great Mountains" beginning at George Penn's land, adjoining Thomas Hamm and Henry Madison. (Nugent, Vol 3, 354) Beginning in 1728, Zachary was a witness to numerous deeds in Spotsylvania County. (Crozier) In 1728, Caroline County was formed from part of Spotsylvania County. On Feb 10 1728/9, Zachary "of Drysdale Parish, Caroline County, Gentleman," sold 100 acres of the 1000 acre tract that his father had given him in 1727 to William Phillips for 1600 lbs tobacco. The piece was located on the south side of the southwest mountains on Pamunkey branches in St. George's Parish, Spotsylvania County. (Crozier, 111) In March 1729, Zachary sold 123 acres of his father's patent to George Anderson for £19. (Crozier, 111) Both of these deeds indicate that Zachary was a resident of Caroline County and did not live on the tract near the future town of Orange. In June 1729, Zachary's father James died. Though no will is extant, it seems that each Taylor son inherited a large tract of land. Zachary did obtain Meadowfarm where he seems to have lived during his entire adult life. Beginning in late 1731, Zachary Taylor was involved in a very curious legal arrangement. He and John Key were made guardians of James Lea and William Lea, minor sons of John Lea deceased. (Casey, 137, 280; Crozier) If Zachary were a young unmarried man, only age 24, it would be highly unusual for him to be appointed a guardian of a minor. A reasonable explanation for this assignment of Zachary as a guardian would be his marriage to a Lea daughter. John Key was married to a Lea daughter, and if Zachary were married to a Lea daughter, then this would not be an unusual guardianship. So, I believe that Zachary was married to a daughter in this family. John Lea died in King & Queen County in 1729, leaving his widow Ann (no proof of surname) and underage children. Widow Ann quickly married Thomas Creathers (Crethers, Carruthers). The younger children were old enough to select their guardians: William and Betty chose their step-father Thomas Creathers, but then, on Oct 3 1731, William Lea chose Zachary Taylor and Taylor posted a £50 bond. (Crozier, 70) On the same date, John Key posted bond as guardian of James Lee. On the same date of Oct 5 1731, Thomas Crethers of Spotsylvania County made a deed to William Lea for 100 acres in St. George's Parish with a payment of £12 by Lea and £30 by Robert Baylor. (Crozier, 120) It is the belief of this researcher that Zachary's first wife died without any surviving children. So, Zachary's connection with the Lea family ended. On Sep 3 1732, Zachary, still "of Drysdale Parish, Caroline County," sold 200 acres in St. Mark's Parish, Spotsylvania County for £20. (Crozier, 124) [when and how did he get this land?] About 1734, Zachary Taylor married Elizabeth Lee, the young widow of Swan Jones. She brought a young son, John Jones, who Zachary would have raised. Zachary and Elizabeth had at least 4 children. In 1734, Orange County was formed from Spotsylvania County. At some time, Zachary and his family probably settled in Orange County on the tract that later was called Meadowfarm. On Feb 20 1737/8, Zachary Taylor of St. Mark's Parish, Orange County, sold 800 acres, "part of 1000 acre granted to Taylor on Feb 28 1728" to James Lindsey for £48. Witnesses: H. Bell, John Ransdell, Joshua Lindsey. Zachary's wife Elizabeth relinquished her dower on Feb 23 1738. (Dorman, Deeds, 47) On Aug 21 1738, Taylor sold 27 acres on a branch of Pamunkey River, "part of a tract whereon the said Taylor now lives" to John Rucker for £5.10. (Dorman, Deeds, 1) On March 22 1738/9, Taylor sold 15 acres on the branches of the Pamunkey River at the Little Mountains to John Goff for £2. Witnesses: James Coleman, John Howard, John Cook. (Dorman, Deeds, 10) On Apr 22 1740, "Zachariah Taylor" of Orange County sold 300 acres "formerly granted to Zacharias Taylor, Gent. on Sep 11 1738 to John Haskew for £8. (Dorman, Deeds, 39) Interestingly, Taylor is named three different ways within the same deed: Zachariah, Zacharias, and Zach. On May 10 1742 in Northumberland Co, "Spencer Ball agreed to surrender certain property to Zachary Taylor, gentleman, of Orange Co, present husband of Elizabeth, the mother of John Jones, the orphan of Swan Jones, gentleman, deceased." (Casey, 279) [10 more years of records should go here] In 1753, Elizabeth died at age 44. Zachary would have had sufficient help to raise the children. It would be unusual for Elizabeth to have had only 4 Taylor children during her 19 years of marriage with Zachary. Normally, women of this era had a child about every two years up to age 42. Zachary's mother Martha died in Orange County in 1762. In her will, she made Zachary one of the executors. (Casey, 131) [there should be many records in Orange County for Zachary 1734-1768] Zachary died in 1768 about age 61. Curiously, though he had conducted much business at the court, he did not leave a will. So, a correct list of his children is not known even from court records. An inventory of his estate totaling £910.1.9, including 26 slaves valued at £792.10.0, was presented in court on March 29 1768. (Dorman, 78) Zachary Taylor and his wife Elizabeth are buried at Meadowfarm in Orange County VA. The Taylor Cemetery is located about 1.5 miles south of the town of Orange on Road 612. Gates marked Meadowfarm are on the left. (Klein, 90) A plaque on the wall inside the Meadowfarm Cemetery states, "In Memory of the first Master and Mistress of Meadowfarm who are buried here. Zachary Taylor 1707-1768, son of James Taylor II of Bloomsbury, Knight of the Golden Horseshoe. Elizabeth Lee 1709-1753, daughter of Hancock Lee of Ditchley and granddaughter of Richard Lee. They were the grandparents of President Zachary Taylor, the great aunt and uncle of President James Madison, the great grandparents of Sara Knox Taylor - wife of President Jefferson Davis of the Confederacy." (Taylor Quarterly (photograph); Klein, 92, incorrect info) Considering all of the events mentioned on this plaque, it must have been placed at the cemetery over 100 years after their deaths. At the time of Zachary's death, none of his 3 known sons were married. Later all of Zachary's known children migrated west, the sons to Kentucky and his daughter to Tennessee. What happened to the ownership of Zachary's homestead Meadowfarm? It is often stated that Zachary married widow Esther Jones, widow of Arthur Blackburn, and that they had several children, including a Zachariah Taylor and a Jeremiah Taylor. I have found no documentary evidence of this marriage or these children. If Zachary had married her, it seems that she would have been mentioned on the cemetery plaque. It has also been stated that Zachary was made the guardian of William Lea because Lea's mother Ann was Zachary's sister or aunt. There is no evidence that Ann was a Taylor, she does not fit into the Taylor family, and a more reasonable explanation is Zachary's marriage to a Lea daughter. References Henry, Reginald B. Genealogies of the Families of the Presidents, 1935. Nugent, Nell. Cavaliers and Pioneers, Vol 3. Crozier, William A. VA County Records, Spotsylvania County 1721-1800. Dorman, John F. Orange County VA Will Book 2 1744-1778. Taylor Quarterly, Fall 1984, p 96-98. (photographs of the house, cemetery gate, and plaque) Klein, Margaret C. Tombstone Inscriptions of Orange Co VA, 1979. p 90, 91, 92. Casey, Albert E. Southern Taylor Families 1607-1830, 1958. Brewer, Mary T. From Log Cabins to the White House. (many errors, p 263-267) Hendrick, Burton. The Lees of VA, 1935. p 29. Northumberland County VA Order Bk Researched and written by Ann Blomquist. 11/2003 This narrative is copyrighted material and may NOT be posted or published except by the author. More About ZACHARY TAYLOR: Fact 1: Bet. 1727 - 1728, Spotsylvania Co VA Fact 2: Bet. 1728 - 1734, Caroline Co VA Fact 3: Bet. 1734 - 1768, Orange Co VA Children of ZACHARY TAYLOR and ELIZABETH LEE are: i. ZACHARY4 TAYLOR, b. Feb 26, 1734/35, Orange Co VA; d. Jun 18, 1815, Jefferson Co KY; m. ALICE CHEW, Jul 20, 1771, Orange Co VA; b. c 1740, VA; d. KY. ii. HANCOCK TAYLOR, b. c 1738, Orange Co VA; d. 1774, Madison Co KY, killed by Indians. iii. ELIZABETH TAYLOR, b. c 1740, Orange Co VA; d. Henderson Co KY; m. (1) THOMAS BELL, c 1758, prob Orange Co VA; d. c Mar 1792, Washington Co TN; m. (2) ALEXANDER MCDONALD, Sep 23, 1794, Lincoln Co KY. iv. COL. RICHARD TAYLOR, b. Apr 03, 1744, Orange Co VA; d. Jan 19, 1829, Louisville, Jefferson Co KY; m. SARAH DABNEY STROTHER, Aug 20, 1779, Orange Co VA; b. Dec 14, 1760, Orange Co VA; d. Dec 13, 1822, KY. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edgar Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Zachary Taylor's second wife?- Re: [TAYLOR] Family myths, NA lines > I am interested in connections of Taylors with Native Americans. In > several exchanges I have raised the question whether the Ester > Blackburn, who married Zachary Taylor, the grandfather of Gen. and > Pres. Zachary T., was an NA. Like so many Taylors we have the tradition > that our Taylors are connected to Pres. Zachary Taylor, which my great > grandfather unhesitantly told his Rathbone cousins was a fact. He and > his father, Cornelius Taylor, knew the Gen., so there may be some > truth in this, though I have never been able prove it. > > The suspicion of an NA in our Taylor family comes from the observation > that, though a father Isaac Taylor, was named for Cornelius' sister, > Deborah Taylor who married Edmund Rathbone, a mother was never > mentioned. Also, Cornelius T. had some facial and other characteristics > that might indicate an NA ancestry. > > Can any one address this question of Zachary Taylor's second wife with > any good evidence? > EdT of PGH ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to [email protected] ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi... I forgot to mention the names of the children of Thomas P. Taylor....they are: William Barney (1878) married Mary Marie (Mamie) Williams and they has three known children: Thomas P., Elvie (Elvia) and Ralph Taylor.... Minnie Taylor Sebastion Taylor Courtney Earnest Olin Pearley Lee Monroe Eliza Their might be more but so far this is all I have researched......appreciate any help....thank you... Stephanie Grohol

Hi... I am researching Thomas Paul Taylor (Dec 1855 Baker - May 1946 Baker Co, FL)...he married three times that I can find...he married two Dowling sisters: Martha Dowling and then married her sister, Sarah Jane Dowling...they were the daughters of James R. and Anna Johns Dowling..... Martha was born 1857 in Baker and died bef 1900, she married Thomas Jan 1877 in Baker Co, and they had 9 children that I know of....seeking their names if possible....and any other information..... Thomas then married in Mar 1896, Sarah Jane Dowling and I am not sure if they had any children...so seeking help there....Sarah died Bef 1913 because Thomas had remarried to a Lokie (or Lovie) Rhoden or Rewis in Jul of 1913..... Appreciate any help in finding information on this family....and thank you.... Stephanie Grohol

My family has the same belief, that we are related to Zachary Taylor, with no proof. We thought it might be thru Esther Blackburn, 2nd wife of his grandfather (I have Blackburn ancestors)but she only married a BlaCKBURN, HER MAIDEN NAME WAS JONES. The Taylor homeland was on Scotland/England Border. They came to America from Carlisle, England abt 1620. Mine came from Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to the same place in VA abt 1737. Both families came to the same place in America(Orange/Augusta Cos. VA) and gave their children many of the same first names. Take the Taylor DNA test and find out! I took it and found only one relative, who thought he was descended from Zach's family but the DNA test proved otherwise. I don't think any of Zach's family have taken the DNA test Earl H Taylor [email protected] (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: Edgar Taylor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Zachary Taylor's second wife?- Re: [TAYLOR] Family myths, NA lines I am interested in connections of Taylors with Native Americans. In several exchanges I have raised the question whether the Ester Blackburn, who married Zachary Taylor, the grandfather of Gen. and Pres. Zachary T., was an NA. Like so many Taylors we have the tradition that our Taylors are connected to Pres. Zachary Taylor, which my great grandfather unhesitantly told his Rathbone cousins was a fact. He and his father, Cornelius Taylor, knew the Gen., so there may be some truth in this, though I have never been able prove it. The suspicion of an NA in our Taylor family comes from the observation that, though a father Isaac Taylor, was named for Cornelius' sister, Deborah Taylor who married Edmund Rathbone, a mother was never mentioned. Also, Cornelius T. had some facial and other characteristics that might indicate an NA ancestry. Can any one address this question of Zachary Taylor's second wife with any good evidence? EdT of PGH -------------- On Feb 11, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Anne wrote: > Linda, > > Have you actually traced all your lines all the way "across the pond"? > If so, you are surely to be congratulated. Many if not most of us have > not gotten nearly so far. > > I'm one who is pretty sure that "myths" of Native American ancestry in > some of my lines contain are pretty certainly true. In many ways, they > are harder to prove than tracing a line back to England or Germany. > > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lambert" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: [TAYLOR] JOHN M & MARY TAYLOR - 1810-1853 - MD > > >> Yep.....my father has always told me that there was Native American >> Indian >> in our line. I have us going back all the way "across the >> pond"....and I >> have no evidence of Native Americans anywhere in our line. Even >> though I >> have provided Dad with citations and sources, he refuses to accept >> that >> there is no Native American blood in our German/English lines. >> >> Some myths die hard <grin> >> >> Linda >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:54 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] JOHN M & MARY TAYLOR - 1810-1853 - MD >> >> It is amazing how many family stories are simply wrong. Perhaps >> there is >> some truth in the stories we have been told, but, it is difficult >> trying to >> find >> it. Lyle >> >> >> ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget to change the subject line when the topic changes. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget to change the subject line when the topic changes. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:[email protected] > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:[email protected] > Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in subject and body of message > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== Don't forget to change the subject line when the topic changes. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

John, Donna; Which Isaac Taylor and Jr are we talking about? There were so many. I descend from Isaac Taylor and Isabella Wilson who came from Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Lexington VA abt 1737 Earl H Taylor [email protected] (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: John Ford [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors of Ashe County. NC Donna: I am researching the Taylors of Ashe County. My line goes back by way of Isaac Sr. & Isaac Jr. I'm not sure I can help you, but I bet you can help me! Please e-mail me at [email protected] John in Ohio > Is anyone out there researching Taylors of Ashe or Wilkes County NC? I have been searching for years and have been subscribed to this listserv for years, and no one seems to ever have anything about any Taylors from this area. > > I am looking for a Henry Taylor, born about 1832 who married Matilda ????. His son Melvin, born around 1854 was my great-grandfather, Melvin married Amanda Darnell Sheets. Their son, William Grover Cleveland Taylor was my grandfather. > > Ashe County is home to West Jefferson, Jefferson, and Creston, NC. This is the area I am looking for. > > Anyone with any information at all? > > Donna ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:[email protected] To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:[email protected] Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in subject and body of message ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

John; I too descend from Isaac and Isabella Wilson Taylor Isaac Jr and Emmaline (Ware?) Joseph and Jane Blackburn Albert and Martha Barnard William and Eliza Osburn James A and Rebecca Vickers James W and Neva Elliott My cousin Martha Linker lives in NC. My Taylors went from VA, NC, TN, AL, MS, TX, CA. I know many descendants of Andrew, Isaac Jr and some from William and Lettice. Earl H Taylor [email protected] (909) 593 2652 yahoo IM eht2060 AOL IM eht2060 http://www.keyway.net/~eht2060/ -----Original Message----- From: John Ford [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] Taylors of Ashe County. NC Donna: I am researching the Taylors of Ashe County. My line goes back by way of Isaac Sr. & Isaac Jr. I'm not sure I can help you, but I bet you can help me! Please e-mail me at [email protected] John in Ohio > Is anyone out there researching Taylors of Ashe or Wilkes County NC? I have been searching for years and have been subscribed to this listserv for years, and no one seems to ever have anything about any Taylors from this area. > > I am looking for a Henry Taylor, born about 1832 who married Matilda ????. His son Melvin, born around 1854 was my great-grandfather, Melvin married Amanda Darnell Sheets. Their son, William Grover Cleveland Taylor was my grandfather. > > Ashe County is home to West Jefferson, Jefferson, and Creston, NC. This is the area I am looking for. > > Anyone with any information at all? > > Donna ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:[email protected] To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:[email protected] Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in subject and body of message ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

Donna: I am researching the Taylors of Ashe County. My line goes back by way of Isaac Sr. & Isaac Jr. I'm not sure I can help you, but I bet you can help me! Please e-mail me at [email protected] John in Ohio > Is anyone out there researching Taylors of Ashe or Wilkes County NC? I have been searching for years and have been subscribed to this listserv for years, and no one seems to ever have anything about any Taylors from this area. > > I am looking for a Henry Taylor, born about 1832 who married Matilda ????. His son Melvin, born around 1854 was my great-grandfather, Melvin married Amanda Darnell Sheets. Their son, William Grover Cleveland Taylor was my grandfather. > > Ashe County is home to West Jefferson, Jefferson, and Creston, NC. This is the area I am looking for. > > Anyone with any information at all? > > Donna

Is anyone out there researching Taylors of Ashe or Wilkes County NC? I have been searching for years and have been subscribed to this listserv for years, and no one seems to ever have anything about any Taylors from this area. I am looking for a Henry Taylor, born about 1832 who married Matilda ????. His son Melvin, born around 1854 was my great-grandfather, Melvin married Amanda Darnell Sheets. Their son, William Grover Cleveland Taylor was my grandfather. Ashe County is home to West Jefferson, Jefferson, and Creston, NC. This is the area I am looking for. Anyone with any information at all? Donna

Since no onoe seems to be looking for the same Taylors as I am from Ashe County NC, I think I will give up for a while.

Grant, Do you have any idea where Dick Taylor was from? Don Taylor >From: "E" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [TAYLOR] Richard Porter Taylor >Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:59:32 -0500 > >Richard Porter Taylor was born about 1920. I believe his father was >involved in the invention of the headlight for pre 1930 automobiles, Dick >Taylor was a Lt jg in the Armed Guard and was commander of the AD Crew >aboard the SS John H. Murphy. He was married to Patricia, had a son Bing? >born Dec. 1944. It is my understanding that Lt Taylor died in the 1970s. I >would appreciate any information on this person. He was a ship mate. Grant > > >==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== >Use only plain text in your messages. Graphics and file attachments >are not supported on RootsWeb mailing lists. > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

A word of caution on dna testing for Native ancestry. The Y-dna test traces the father to son male line only, so if there was say a Native grandmother, there would be no evidence in the Y-dna test since the Y chromosone is passed male to male only. In the mtdna test, it traces the female line. So, unless I missunderstand it traces the bottom line of your pedigree while the Y test traces the top line. Think of all of the other lines that go undetected by theses tests. Then, there is a test that looks at many genetic markers to test for ethnicity. It is done by Ancestry by dna.( ancestrybydna.com ) The problem with this test is that it is very innacurate because each child inherits a different set of genes from their parents genes. So, you could test ten children from the same set of parents and each could show a different result. I have evidence of a Native 12th great grandmother and took this test. The graph that came with the results showed a slight spike in the area of Native ancestry, but they classified me as 100% European because the amount of Native ancestry was less than 1% of my genetic makeup. Think about your pedigree, with each generation the number of ancestors doubles in that generation. So, how many generations would you have to go back to the point where your Native ancestry would be less than 1% ? If you have traced your pedigree back that far and haven't found any Natives, they would not show in this dna test. Don't waste your money unless you suspect one of your grandparents or 1st or 2nd great grandparents was 100% Native. Don Taylor There is a DNA a test for Native American Ancestry. You may find info at http://www.ftdna.com/ I am not affiliated with this web site. Good Luck, Brenda Collins >From: "B W Collins" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] My Friend's son's TAYLOR line >Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:20:03 -0500 > >There is a DNA a test for Native American Ancestry. You may find info at > >http://www.ftdna.com/ > >I am not affiliated with this web site. > >Good Luck, >Brenda Collins

Freedmen Project--MILLER APP.# 19011 Hayward Rowe, Brown, Ross, Rodgers, Taylor, Mayfield PLEASE NOTE ALL RESPONSES TO QUESTION ARE IN CAPS. Below are the questions asked on the Miller Applications I have sent you info on in the Freedmen Project work. I hope to get at least one a week submitted. For those of you who cannot afford these NARA applications, I would advise that after you confirm it is your line, that you send for the packet, for source proof. Remember geneology is nothing without documentation. Page 1) Application #--19011 Action Taken--ADMITTED Name of applicant--HAYWARD ROWE No. of children--5 Residence--TALALA,OKLA. Reason---NEPHEW OF #557 AND CLAIMS THRU SAME SOURCE Page 2) SPECIAL COMMISSIONER of the COURT of CLAIMS,601 Ouray Building, Washington D.C. Sir,I hereby make application for such share as may be due me of the fund appropriated by the ACT of CONGRESS, appoved June 30, 1906, in accordance with the decrees of the COURT of CLAIMS of May 18,1905, and May28, 1906, in favor of the Eastern Cherokees. The evidence of identity is herewith subjoined. Note: Answers to all questions should be short, but complete. If you can not answer, so state. Question # 1)State full name: English name-HAYWARD ROWE Indian name- #2)Residence--NEAR TALALA I.T. #3Town and Post Office--TALALA I.T. #4)County--4 RECORDING DISTRICT #5)State--INDIAN TERRITORY #6)Date and place of birth?--ON GRAND RIVER FEBY 28" 1859 NEAR TAHLEQUAN I.T. #7)By what right do you claim to share? If you claim through more then one relative living in 1851,set forth each seperately: FOR MY MOTHER JUNA BROWN AND MY 1,2 SISTER ABBIE SPUNA BOTH NOW DEAD. #8)Are you married?--YES #9)Name and age of wife or husband----LUCINDA ROWE NEE ROGERS AGED 41 YEARS #10)Give names of your father and mother, and your mothers maiden name before marriage. Father- english name---DANIEL ROWE OR ROSS Indian name-- Mother- english name--JUNA ROWE Indian name--- Maiden name--JUNA BROWN #11)Where were they born? Father--ON GRAND RIVER I.T. NEAR TANLEQUAN Mother--ON GRAND RIVER & NEAR TANLEQUAN I.T. #12)Where did they reside in 1851, if living at this time? Father--ON TUE SAID GRAND RIVER NEAR TANLEQUAN I.T. Mother--ON TUE SAID GRAND RIVER NEAR TANLEQUAN I.T. #13)Date of death of your father and mother: Father--IN 1887 Mother--IN 1885 Page 3) #14)Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benifits? If so, state when and were.--MY MOTHER WAS ENROLLED ON 1851 AND SUBSEQUENT ROLLS AND DREW GRASS HOPPER MONEY #15)Name all your brothers and sisters, giving ages, and residence if possible. Name--FRANK KEYS 1/2 BROTHER Born--1862 Died--LIVING NEAR REDLAND IT Name--ABBIE SPUN 1/2 SISTER Born--1865 Died--DIED IN 1872 #16)State English name and Indian names of your grandparents on both father's and mother's side, if possible. Fathers side:JESS ROWE CELIA ROWE Mothers side:--RACHEL BROWN GRANDMOTHER STEPHEN TAYLOR GRANDFATHER #17)Where were they born? Fathers side:--PATERNAL GRAND PARENTS IN GEORGIA Mother's side;--MATERNAL GRAND PARENTS IN GEORGIA #18)Where did they reside in 1851, if living at that time?-- PATERNAL GRAND PARENTS IN I.T. MATERNAL GRAND PARENTS NEAR TAHLEQUA I.T. #19)Give names of all their children, and residence, if possible: Note: NONE OF MY GRAND PARENTS WERE OF INDIAN DESCENT EXCEPT MY GRAND MOTHER RACHEL BROWN.AND THIS IS A LIST OF HER CHILDREN. English Name:--ABBIE BROWN LIVING IS NEAR 100 YEARS OLD Indian Name:-- Residence:--LENAPAN I.T. English Name:--GEORGE H BROWN LIVING Indian Name:-- Residence:--LENAPAN I.T. English Name:--CY BROWN DEAD DIED BEFORE THE WAR Indian Name:-- Residence:-- English Name:--SALLIE BROWN LIVING Indian Name:-- Residence:--IN CALIFORNIA POST OFFICE UNKNOWN English Name:--PERRY ROSS LIVING Indian Name:-- Residence:--CLAREMORE I.T. JUNA BROWN& MYMOTNER DIED IN 1885 #20)Have you ever been enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benifits?-- AM A CHEROKEE FREEDMEN ALLOTTEE AND AM ON THE 1880 AUTNENTICATED ROLL AND OTHER ROLLS Page 4) #21)To assist in identification, claiment should give the full English and Indian names, if possible, of their parents and grandparents back to 1835,---- MY GRAND MOTHER WAS RACHEL BROWN WHO LIVED IN 1835 --------------------------------- Remarks- Section) Under this head the applicant may give any additional facts which will assist in providing his claim.-- MY UNCLE GEORGE H BROWN NOW LIVING AT LENAPAH I.T. IS ON THE REGULAR CHEROKEE ROLL OF 1880 AND IS A CHEROKEE ALLOTTEE. ------------------------------------ Legal- Section ) I solemnly swear that the forgoing statements made by me are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. Signature---HAYWARD HIS X MARK ROWE Subscribed and sworn to before me this 21 day,of MARCH, 1907. Notary Public- signature--JOHN E. PUNKION My commission expires: DEC. 21, 1908 Affidavit) (The following affidavit must be sworn to by two or more witnesses, who are well acquainted with the applicant.) Personally appeared before me J.G.LIPER and E.Y.BASS, who being duly sworn, on oath depose and say they are well acquainted with HAYWARD ROWE who makes the foregoing application and statements, and have known for 20 years and 15 years, respectively, and know HIM to be the identical person HE represents- HIMSELF to be, and that the statements made by HIM are true, to the best of their knowledge and belief, and they have no interest whatever in HIS claim. Witnesses to mark--J.G.LIPER E.Y.BASS Signatures of witnesses--J.G.LIPER E.Y.BASS Subscribed and sworn to me, before me this 18TH day of MARCH,1917. Notary signature---JOHN E.PUNKION Notary commission expires---DEC 21,,1908 NOTE: Affidavits should be made, whenever practicable, before a notary public,or clerk of the court, if sworn to before an Indian agent or disbursing agent of the Indian service, it need not be before a notary, etc. .----------------- MY PERSONAL NOTE: Pages after that include letters written to the BIA about their claim. Some have additional papers, others do not. ADDITIONAL PAPERS WITH THIS APPLICATION ARE; ------------------------------------------------------------------- SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN Special Commissioner of the Court of Claims, 601 Ouray Building, Washington D.C. Sir, I hereby make application for such share as may be due my minor children of the fund appropriated by the Act of Congress appoved June 30,1906, in accordance with the decree of the Court of Claims of May 18, 1905, and May 28, 1906 in favor of the Eastern Cherokees, and I ask that this be made part of my original application No.19011 1) State your full name:--HAYWARD ROWE 2) Residence and Post Office:--TALALA 3) County:--CHEROKEE NATION 4) State:--INDIAN TERRITORY 5) Date and place of birth:--NEAR TAHLEQUAH I.T. IN FEBY 1860 6) Are you married?--YES 7) Name and age of wife or huband:--LUCINDA ROWE AGED 40 8) To what tribe of Indians, if any, does he or she belong?--NONE 9) Names of all your children who were living on May 28, 1906: Name--PERRY ROWE Age--18 YEARS Born--OCT 1888 Name--LEWIS ROWE Age--15 YEARS Born--AUG 16 1891 Name--ALBERT ROWE Age--14 YEARS Born--APRIL 8 1893 Name--RACHEL ROWE Age--7 YEARS Born--FEBY 22 1900 Name--AGGIE ROWE Age--5 YEARS Born--FEBY 21 1902 10) Were you ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians:---ALL ARE CHEROKEE ALLOTTEES REMARKS-- (Under this head the applicant may give any additional facts which will assist in providing his claim.)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I solemnly swear that the foregoing statements made by me are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. Signature--HAYWARD HIS X MARK ROWE Subscribed and sworn to before me this 15 day of JUNE 1907. Notary Signature--JOHN E. PUNKION My Commission expires--DEC 21, 1908 Other Signatures to mark are: JOHN PUNKION GEORGE MAYFIELD -------------------------------------------------------------- Add:Stamped Letter to the Court of Claims: SEPT 22, 1909 COFFEYS VILLE KANSAS SEPT. 19,1909 MR GUION MILLER SPECIAL COMMISSIONER SIR AS I AM THE DAUGHTER OF HAYWARD ROWE AND HAVE RECIEVED MY NOTICE TO THE EASTERN CHEROKEE ENROLLMENT AND MY PAPER HAVE NOT BEEN RECIEVED ANY AT ALL AND THEY SAY WE ALL HAVETO HAVE THEM BEFORE WE CAN DRAW THE MONEY AND I HAVE RECIEVED MINE KNOW WILL YOU BE SO PLEASE AS TO SEND PAPERS AND SISTERS AND BROTHERS NAMES HAYWARD ROWE PARRIE ROWE LOUIS ROWE ALBERT ROWE RACHEL ROWE AGGIE ROWE WHITCH PLEASE SEND TO MY A DRESS ELLA MAYFIELD 910 MINIS ODA ST. COFFEYS VILLE KAUS Bright Star Freedmen Project 2005

Thank you for your response. I can only assume NY or NJ. He was born in the Old 5th Ave hotel near Greenwich Village. Went to Middlebury College, VT. Post war he was in England for a number of years. Then worked in NYC. I lost track of him as I went through a divorce and all information regarding may have gone unseen. I believe he and /or his son went to Calif. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "DON TAYLOR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: RE: [TAYLOR] Richard Porter Taylor > Grant, > Do you have any idea where Dick Taylor was from? > Don Taylor > > >From: "E" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [TAYLOR] Richard Porter Taylor > >Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:59:32 -0500 > > > >Richard Porter Taylor was born about 1920. I believe his father was > >involved in the invention of the headlight for pre 1930 automobiles, Dick > >Taylor was a Lt jg in the Armed Guard and was commander of the AD Crew > >aboard the SS John H. Murphy. He was married to Patricia, had a son Bing? > >born Dec. 1944. It is my understanding that Lt Taylor died in the 1970s. I > >would appreciate any information on this person. He was a ship mate. Grant > > > > > >==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== > >Use only plain text in your messages. Graphics and file attachments > >are not supported on RootsWeb mailing lists. > > > >============================== > >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== > Please remember to 'snip' as much of the Original Message as possible > when replying to a List Posting. Include only enough to continue the > train of thought. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Richard Porter Taylor was born about 1920. I believe his father was involved in the invention of the headlight for pre 1930 automobiles, Dick Taylor was a Lt jg in the Armed Guard and was commander of the AD Crew aboard the SS John H. Murphy. He was married to Patricia, had a son Bing? born Dec. 1944. It is my understanding that Lt Taylor died in the 1970s. I would appreciate any information on this person. He was a ship mate. Grant

Very good advise !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "DON TAYLOR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] My Friend's son's TAYLOR line > A word of caution on dna testing for Native ancestry. The Y-dna test > traces the father to son male line only, so if there was say a Native > grandmother, there would be no evidence in the Y-dna test since the Y > chromosone is passed male to male only. In the mtdna test, it traces the > female line. So, unless I missunderstand it traces the bottom line of your > pedigree while the Y test traces the top line. Think of all of the other > lines that go undetected by theses tests. > Then, there is a test that looks at many genetic markers to test for > ethnicity. It is done by Ancestry by dna.( ancestrybydna.com ) The problem > with this test is that it is very innacurate because each child inherits a > different set of genes from their parents genes. So, you could test ten > children from the same set of parents and each could show a different > result. I have evidence of a Native 12th great grandmother and took this > test. The graph that came with the results showed a slight spike in the area > of Native ancestry, but they classified me as 100% European because the > amount of Native ancestry was less than 1% of my genetic makeup. Think about > your pedigree, with each generation the number of ancestors doubles in that > generation. So, how many generations would you have to go back to the point > where your Native ancestry would be less than 1% ? If you have traced your > pedigree back that far and haven't found any Natives, they would not show in > this dna test. Don't waste your money unless you suspect one of your > grandparents or 1st or 2nd great grandparents was 100% Native. > Don Taylor > > > There is a DNA a test for Native American Ancestry. You may find info at > > http://www.ftdna.com/ > > I am not affiliated with this web site. > > Good Luck, > Brenda Collins > > >From: "B W Collins" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] My Friend's son's TAYLOR line > >Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:20:03 -0500 > > > >There is a DNA a test for Native American Ancestry. You may find info at > > > >http://www.ftdna.com/ > > > >I am not affiliated with this web site. > > > >Good Luck, > >Brenda Collins > > > > ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== > Use only plain text in your messages. Graphics and file attachments > are not supported on RootsWeb mailing lists. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hello Kay Some local libraries provide free access to Ancestry.com and some provide home access to HeritageQuest.com. HeritageQuest has census and book resources. Good luck with your research. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: "N & K Chestnut" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: [TAYLOR] My Friend's son's TAYLOR line > Dear TAYLOR Researcher: > > My friend's ex-husband is dead. Her "ex-" was a TAYLOR. Her son > thinks he is part Native American, or wants to "prove" that he is. > > Does anyone have any advice to help me, help my friend? She has never > done much of this genealogy stuff; and will surely need all the help I can > give her. Advice? Suggestions? I don't think she has lots of money to > put into this project. I can help with time, but not money. And I don't > have membership for sites like, Ancestry.com . > > Kay C. > > -------------- > > I'm one who is pretty sure that "myths" of Native American ancestry in some > of my lines contain are pretty certainly true. In many ways, they are > harder > to prove than tracing a line back to England or Germany. > > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: [TAYLOR] JOHN M & MARY TAYLOR - 1810-1853 - MD > > > Some myths die hard <grin> > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TAYLOR] JOHN M & MARY TAYLOR - 1810-1853 - MD > > It is amazing how many family stories are simply wrong. Perhaps there is > some truth in the stories we have been told, but, it is difficult trying > to find it. > > Lyle > > > > > ==== TAYLOR Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:[email protected] > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:[email protected] > Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in subject and body of message > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >