I have a friend who has traced his surname, Helmandollar, back to about 1750 in North Carolina and is now at a deadend. I suggested that the name is an Americanization of Helmanthaller, meaning a person from the Helman Valley. That didn't work out so good because we couldn't find a Helmanthal (Helman Valley). Does this surname or variations appear at all in Switzerland? Thanks, Paul Rands near Portland, Oregon _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail