Hi Nellie and List, Thanks for your reply. Let me try to explain more thoroughly. 1. This is how the "Germans to America" lists record. Passenger- Martin Mueller and 9 other family members and ages, Destination- USA, Province- SR for Switzerland, Village- 000 for Obermoellrich (which is about 300 miles NE of Basel Switz.), ship- Leonidas, from- Havre, To- New York, arrived- 09 November 1852. I am wondering if the Obermollrich is wrong. Because if they left from Obermollrich you would suspect they would have left from the port of Rotterdam which would have been closer and about 200 miles versus 500 miles to Le Havre. 2.This is how "NY Passenger List 1851-1891 of Ancestry.com" lists the record. Name- Martin Muller, arrival date- 9 Nov 1852, port of departure- Le Havre, France, destination- New York, ship- Leonidas, place of origin- Sinsse, microfilm roll- 121. This conflicts in point of origin with #1 above. I cannot find Sinsse? Can anyone help find Sinsse and how would they have migrated to Le Havre from there. Remember, the family was living in Nusshof, Baselland, Switz. prior to emigrating. Thanks, Larry ldb67@zoominternet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Posnsrch@aol.com To: ldb67@zoominternet.net ; SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Martin Miller (Mueller, Muller) migration Hi Larry and list, I am not real good at geography of that area, but I think that Württemburg (or Württemberg - which I think is the more modern spelling) is a great AREA of Germany, not a town. The towns are Stuttgart and Heidelberg and the area contains the wonderful Black Forest. You would need a town name to do a search...if I am correct. Also, you say that Germans to America states that they left from Basel to New York...but Basel is landlocked and hundreds of miles from the Ports. You would need to find the exact port the ship left from...if I am correct. You later mention Le Havre. Is that the port where the ship left? You ask: How might I go about finding how Martin migrated to Basel-Landschaft in the community of Nusshof or Wintersingen? Did you state that the city of Basel and Nusshof are only 13 miles apart? They probably moved with horse and wagon. I don't know how closely you follow the list, but if you get no responses regarding the routes from Basel to Le Havre, check the archives...there has been quite a lively discussion and Erich and Jacques, who both live in Europe, have put some light on the subject. Regards from Texas, USA Nellie, a 68-yr-old root diggerW