Hello Listers, I want to take the time for thank Wolf and the others who solved my problem with my Usteri/Usterin problem. Just goes to show you that no matter how long you've been doing research and taking classes there's always somethingnew new to learn. I'm still looking for Staheli women to Schadegg men marriages on my father's line. If anyone has done any research on thhis I would love to hear from you. Again, many thanks. Alice Davison, Yuma