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    1. AW: [SWITZ] Michael Messinger born 1719 in Basel
    2. Wolf Seelentag
    3. > Swiss Surnames Prior to 1862 shows the Möschinger surname in > Häfelfingen, Canton Basel-Landschaft prior to 1799. I don't > see any other name variants or locations listed. Note that if > a family name had died out in a village before 1862 they > would not be listed in this source. Just a minor addition of the last statement - though not relevant in the context of this thread: "Swiss Surnames Prior to 1862" (on CD) is an excerpt of the Swiss Surname Register http://swiss.genealogy.net/famnam-m.htm. This (the latest edition) is based on the status of 1962 - so any surname dying out before 1962 (nineteen-sixty-two) will not be listed in the book. The excerpt on the CD is limited to surnames holding Swiss citizenship prior to 1862 (eighteen-sixty-two) - so any "valid" surnames of 1962 gaining Swiss citizenship after 1862 (like many immigrants from surrounding countries) will not be listed on the CD. Similarily any surname dying out between 1862 and 1962 will not be listed either. What's the point? As I said, not relevant in this case (someone born 1719 being looked for) - but if you are looking for someone born e.g. 1900, the fact that the surname is not listed on the CD does NOT mean you're on the wrong track. The statement I'm referring to is not wrong - it's just not completely correct ;-). I hope I have not confused too many of you, and send my best regards - Wolf __________________ Wolf Seelentag, Ph.D. Reherstr. 19 CH - 9016 St.Gallen +41 (0) 71 - 288 51 21 wolf.seelentag@swissonline.ch

    10/05/2005 05:09:05
    1. Re: AW: [SWITZ] Michael Messinger born 1719 in Basel
    2. Jonathan Gentry
    3. Hi Wolf and List, First a recap : At 05:09 PM 10/5/2005, Wolf Seelentag wrote: > > Swiss Surnames Prior to 1862 shows the Möschinger surname in > > Häfelfingen, Canton Basel-Landschaft prior to 1799. I don't > > see any other name variants or locations listed. Note that if > > a family name had died out in a village before 1862 they > > would not be listed in this source. > >Just a minor addition of the last statement - though not relevant in the >context of this thread: "Swiss Surnames Prior to 1862" (on CD) is an >excerpt of the Swiss Surname Register >http://swiss.genealogy.net/famnam-m.htm. This (the latest edition) is >based on the status of 1962 - so any surname dying out before 1962 >(nineteen-sixty-two) will not be listed in the book. The excerpt on the >CD is limited to surnames holding Swiss citizenship prior to 1862 >(eighteen-sixty-two) - so any "valid" surnames of 1962 gaining Swiss >citizenship after 1862 (like many immigrants from surrounding countries) >will not be listed on the CD. Similarily any surname dying out between >1862 and 1962 will not be listed either. > >What's the point? As I said, not relevant in this case (someone born >1719 being looked for) - but if you are looking for someone born e.g. >1900, the fact that the surname is not listed on the CD does NOT mean >you're on the wrong track. The statement I'm referring to is not wrong - >it's just not completely correct ;-). So please tell me, and the list archives, how to trace the following 2 lines : In 1942 my "cousin's wife" surname CARGILL died in Switzerland (Source The Times of London, Death Notice.) and I suspect cousin James Dudley CARGILL also died in Switzerland. possibly during or just after WW2. James had been a Judge in the Indian Civil Service and had married in India a Miss COMBA who had lived in Italy, where her father was a university professor, before going to India. I do not know where Emile COMBA D.D. was born and wonder if he was Swiss; and they had retired to Switzerland because of that. There were 2 CARGILL children born in India, one trained as a Medical Doctor and came to Canada. The other married, 1924, a gentleman in London, England and is said to have lived in several African and European countries. I would like to know how to trace a death of James CARGILL in Switzerland after 1942 ? And would also like to know if the surname COMBA was ever Swiss ? Looking forward to your advice. Regards to all Jonathan in Toronto, Canada

    10/05/2005 02:38:38