Dear KREIDER researchers: I have updated the information in SwissGen's SSD about the KREIDER surname. I have included data from FNBS 1989 (Baden, AG from before 1800), checked in von Moos (nothing found), and added the 1996 phonebook village listings (5 were found). Please e-mail off-line if you would like the street addresses of the Kreider telephone listings (data was in 1996) in Switzerland. Please visit: http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ to obtain the updated data from SwissGen's SSD. best wishes, Dave Schmutz p.s. by looking on www.mapquest.com I can see that Baden and Dättwil are next to each other. -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Himmelberger [mailto:mahimmel@nbn.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:36 PM To: dschmutz@es.com Subject: KREIDER Dave, I took a few minutes to look through my files since reading your last message again. It finally dawned on me that you were asking about the KREIDER family's origin. From a book at our local Historical Society, I learned that the KREIDERS lived along the Rhine River in Switzerland and brothers Martin, Michael and Jacob were born there. Martin and his sons Joseph, John Jacob and Frederick landed in the USA on 16 Sep 1736, in Philadelphia on board the ship "Princess Augusta." Martin's brother, Jacob, had come over in 1712 and was already settled in Conestoga, Lancaster Co., PA, when Martin came over. Martin's other brother, Michael, had arrived 11 Aug 1732, and he also had settled in Conestoga, Lancaster Co., PA. There the confusion begins as there are so many KREIDER male family members all with the same name not to mention they began to intermarry. I do know that my husband's line descends from Rev. Martin KREIDER, Sr. and Anna Catharine SCHMUTZ. I think this is why I put the KREIDER file aside...a little confusing and I didn't have the time I needed to spend on it to sort it all out. There is plenty of older material in our local Historical Society's library...I just need the time! Also, I use Family Tree Maker and I haven't updated all my files to Version 7. Rev. Martin Kreider, Sr. was very instrumental in the forming of the United Brethren Church in Lebanon. He was formerly a Mennonite and he had worked with Boehm and Otterbein in their labors for the United Brethren Church. His grandson, Christian S. Kreider, was the founder of Salem United Brethren Church at Ninth and Church Streets in Lebanon, the mother U.B. church of Lebanon (now Covenant United Methodist Church). Hope I haven't bored you! Melanie