Hi, I am just wondering if anyone has info on how to find an exact address of where a family would have lived back in 1884 in Wynau? My Herzig family (Frederick Herzig) left Wynau in 1884. We have a picture of the house, but we don't know where it is actually located. Is there a certain type of record that I should be looking for? We know they lived with the Hofer family in the same house. The house is probably gone, but we'd still like to know where it was. Any info anyone is willing to share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time, Laryl Hludzenski Lhludzen@twcny.rr.com

HELLO: Seeking information on Peter Welty born in Bern Switzerland and died, 1856, in TN USA. I need exact birth dates and Death dates. I belong Peter, lived in Greene County, TN. Your time and assistance will truly, be appreciated. Thank You, Dan E. Flanery _OakFlats@aol.com_ (mailto:OakFlats@aol.com) Glendale, Arizona

HELLO: I need information on my Johan Jacob Welty, who was born in Bern, Switzerland and died 1791 in PA, USA. I would appreciate your time and assistance. Dan E. Flanery _OakFlats@aol.com_ (mailto:OakFlats@aol.com) Glendale, Arizona

Go to the map: http://map.search.ch/affeltrangen.en.html Zoom out one degree. The town is probably Zezikon which is about 1 km. north of Affeltrangen. Rick Saunders -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/2005

I have the following information and am wondering if this is a location - or was a location. I can't find it today. Evangelish Reformierte Kirche Affeltrangen (Thurgau) Switzerland FHL film # 0958740/ #0958741 Time frame: 1653 Parents: Thomas Weber zu Cezikon Anna Fröhlich(in) Appreciate any help. Lola M. Weber hunter1@scattercreek.com

Hello "Wattersweier" seems to me a misspelling. I search in the "Verzeichniss der Ortschaften und Gemeinden des Kantons Thurgau", printed about 1832, and in this booklet there are wether a hamlet nor a village named "Wattersweier". Next names were: Watt (today in Roggwil), Weyer (Roggwil), Weyerhäusli (Matzingen), Weyerhäusli (Wigoltingen), Weyerhäusli (Amlikon-Bissegg), Weyerhof (Zuben), Weyerholz (Mammern), Weyern (Wittenwil), Weyern (Wängi) and Weyerstein (Berg). But there are a lot of "-schweilen, -weil, -weiler > today mostly -schwilen, -wil, -wiler) like Wagersweil, Wallenweil, Wartenweil or Wittenweil. Regards Erich Trösch >-- Original-Nachricht -- >Reply-To: <Susan@jsbiedron.com> >From: "Susan Biedron" <Susan@jsbiedron.com> >Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:30:47 -0600 >To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SWITZ] Town name help > > >Hello, > > > >I recently received information that a relative of my ancestor was born > >1817 in "Wattersweier" Thurgau Switzerland. I cannot find a town with this >name in Thurgau, all of Switzerland, or anywhere else. Either Wattersweier >is a really bad misspelling or perhaps it was an area incorporated into a >larger town?? > > > > Georg Theodor SCHNEIDER, b. 26 Apr. 1817 in "Wattersweier" in Thurgau >(Switzerland). Any suggestions for tracking this person? While not new to >genealogy, I am new to Swiss genealogy. Ich kann Deutsch lesen. > > > >Thank you, > >Susan > > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >Swiss Resource Site >http://swiss.genealogy.net >

Hello, I recently received information that a relative of my ancestor was born 1817 in "Wattersweier" Thurgau Switzerland. I cannot find a town with this name in Thurgau, all of Switzerland, or anywhere else. Either Wattersweier is a really bad misspelling or perhaps it was an area incorporated into a larger town?? Georg Theodor SCHNEIDER, b. 26 Apr. 1817 in "Wattersweier" in Thurgau (Switzerland). Any suggestions for tracking this person? While not new to genealogy, I am new to Swiss genealogy. Ich kann Deutsch lesen. Thank you, Susan

Who can tell me were and how far "Gruenhain, Zwickau, Sachen" is from "Wattenwil, Bern, Switzerland"? I know were Wattenwil is but I have no ideal were Gruenhain is???? Thanks for any help or map. Ken --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Lola. Märwil is a neighboring town of Affeltrangen. (see the maps I sent you). Since your book is an "Inventory of towns and villages in Kanton Thurgau (TG) " and it speaks of the [72] Kirchgemeinden (church communities, aka parishes) , the word "Filiale" in this book may mean that Märwil at that time did not have a parish priest of its own, but shared a priest with the main church in Affeltrangen. A traveling preacher. As you can see, Tobel is also one of those villages mentioned. Hanneli BTW My St. Galler friend Walter in Vancouver BC just sent me this absolutely marvelous interactive Swiss Search Map website you might also profit from. It has many interesting features. http://www.search.ch/ http://map.search.ch/?x=1164&y=-1478&z=16 Click on "Schweizer Karte" on the right (Switzerland Map), then left click on the area. Left mouse increases, right mouse decreases. As you scroll the map in any direction and patiently wait a little, it keeps adding the surrounding places. It can even lead you to the very house you were born in. You can send the very map to someone [verschicken]. [Druckversion] means "printable version". Awesome. Thanks Walter ! Another useful feature is "Telephonbuch". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lola Weber" <hunter1@scattercreek.com> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: What is the meaning of this Evangelical church ?? > Does this mean it is located in Märwil? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Lola M Weber > > hunter1@scattercreek.com > > > > !INFOR: Verzeichnis der Ortschaften des Kantons Thurgau, 1943, FHL SLC > 949.459 E5v > > Gazateers p. 15 - Evangelische Kirchgemeinder (72) > > Affeltrangen mit der Fillale Märwil. > > ______________________________

Hi Yes, Jim Rickenbacker's informations are ok. "Lücken" by the baptisms (1636), Marriages (1636) and Deaths (1636-1677) means gaps. The originals of the Population Tables are in the State Archiv of Zurich, because to approx. 1798/1803 for Evangelist church affairs in the Thurgau were Zurich responsible. Regards Erich Trösch >-- Original-Nachricht -- >From: "Jim Rickenbacker(3)" <j3mrick@borisbrooks.com> >Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Is this an inventory of records for Affeltrangen, Canton >Thurgau, Switzerland? >Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:12:42 -0600 >To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi Lola, > >Yes, this would appear to be an inventory of records from Affeltragen. > >Affeltrangen ev. (evangelical?) Besonderes: Mit Marwil und >Braunau > - Affeltragen ev[angelisch]. [Protestant] Special: with [including] >Marwil and Braunau (means the Affeltragen Church also served Marwil and >Braunau). >Taufen 1620-1875 > - Baptisms >Ehen 1612-1875 > - Marriages >Tote 1612-1875 > - Deaths >Konfirmanden 1808-1875 (confirmation) > - Confirmations >Pfarrer 1559-1819 > - Pastors >Verlobnisbuch 1835-1871 > - Engagements Book >Familienregister Burger und Ansassen: 18. -20 Jahrhundert > - Family Register Citizens and Residents >Bevolkerungsverzeichnis 1637 1640 1643 1650 1651 1652 >1671 > 1684 1689 1695 1709 1724 >1734 > - Population Table > >Regards, >Jim Rickenbacker >Kingwood, TX >Home Page: http://borisbrooks.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lola Weber" <hunter1@scattercreek.com> >To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:57 PM >Subject: [SWITZ] Is this an inventory of records for Affeltrangen, Canton >Thurgau, Switzerland? > > >> I looked at a booK: "Kirchgemeinden und Pfarrbucher im Thurgau", 1991. >> Can you tell me what these are? >> >> There is a section IV Inventar (Inventory?) >> >> Affeltrangen ev. (evangelical?) Besonderes: Mit Marwil und >Braunau >> >> Taufen 1620-1875 >> Ehen 1612-1875 >> Tote 1612-1875 >> Konfirmanden 1808-1875 (confirmation) >> Pfarrer 1559-1819 >> Verlobnisbuch 1835-1871 >> Familienregister Burger und Ansassen: 18. -20 Jahrhundert >> Bevolkerungsverzeichnis 1637 1640 1643 1650 1651 1652 >1671 >> 1684 1689 1695 1709 >1724 1734 >> >> Thanks >> >> Lola M. Weber >> hunter1@scattercreek.com Erich Trösch Rabenstrasse 7 9008 St. Gallen Tel. 079 339 88 28

Hi Lola, Yes, this would appear to be an inventory of records from Affeltragen. Affeltrangen ev. (evangelical?) Besonderes: Mit Marwil und Braunau - Affeltragen ev[angelisch]. [Protestant] Special: with [including] Marwil and Braunau (means the Affeltragen Church also served Marwil and Braunau). Taufen 1620-1875 - Baptisms Ehen 1612-1875 - Marriages Tote 1612-1875 - Deaths Konfirmanden 1808-1875 (confirmation) - Confirmations Pfarrer 1559-1819 - Pastors Verlobnisbuch 1835-1871 - Engagements Book Familienregister Burger und Ansassen: 18. -20 Jahrhundert - Family Register Citizens and Residents Bevolkerungsverzeichnis 1637 1640 1643 1650 1651 1652 1671 1684 1689 1695 1709 1724 1734 - Population Table Regards, Jim Rickenbacker Kingwood, TX Home Page: http://borisbrooks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lola Weber" <hunter1@scattercreek.com> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: [SWITZ] Is this an inventory of records for Affeltrangen, Canton Thurgau, Switzerland? > I looked at a booK: "Kirchgemeinden und Pfarrbucher im Thurgau", 1991. > Can you tell me what these are? > > There is a section IV Inventar (Inventory?) > > Affeltrangen ev. (evangelical?) Besonderes: Mit Marwil und Braunau > > Taufen 1620-1875 > Ehen 1612-1875 > Tote 1612-1875 > Konfirmanden 1808-1875 (confirmation) > Pfarrer 1559-1819 > Verlobnisbuch 1835-1871 > Familienregister Burger und Ansassen: 18. -20 Jahrhundert > Bevolkerungsverzeichnis 1637 1640 1643 1650 1651 1652 1671 > 1684 1689 1695 1709 1724 1734 > > Thanks > > Lola M. Weber > hunter1@scattercreek.com > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Resource Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > >

I looked at a booK: "Kirchgemeinden und Pfarrbucher im Thurgau", 1991. Can you tell me what these are? There is a section IV Inventar (Inventory?) Affeltrangen ev. (evangelical?) Besonderes: Mit Marwil und Braunau Taufen 1620-1875 Ehen 1612-1875 Tote 1612-1875 Konfirmanden 1808-1875 (confirmation) Pfarrer 1559-1819 Verlobnisbuch 1835-1871 Familienregister Burger und Ansassen: 18. -20 Jahrhundert Bevolkerungsverzeichnis 1637 1640 1643 1650 1651 1652 1671 1684 1689 1695 1709 1724 1734 Thanks Lola M. Weber hunter1@scattercreek.com

Hi Lola - Try this site: _http://map.search.ch/affeltrangen_ (http://map.search.ch/affeltrangen) You can type in other locations as well. Shelly Also searching Weber in Thurgau. Hello, I have discovered that I have ancestors who came from Affeltrangen, Canton of Thurgau in Switzerland. Although Affeltrangen has a website, I am unable to locate it on a map of Switzerland. Can anyone help? Lola M Weber

Does this mean it is located in Märwil? Thanks for your help. Lola M Weber hunter1@scattercreek.com !INFOR: Verzeichnis der Ortschaften des Kantons Thurgau, 1943, FHL SLC 949.459 E5v Gazateers p. 15 - Evangelische Kirchgemeinder (72) Affeltrangen mit der Fillale Märwil.

Visit, and bookmark http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/kant/tgorte-m.htm which locates Affeltrangen in Bezirk Münchwilen. Harold > Hello, > > I have discovered that I have ancestors who came from Affeltrangen, Canton of > Thurgau in Switzerland. > > Although Affeltrangen has a website, I am unable to locate it on a map of > Switzerland. > > Can anyone help? > > Lola M Weber > Harold Henderson, researching HENDERSON, DAVIDSON, ANDERSSON, STENBERG, THRALL, FLINT, SCHRIBER, JOSS, SCHOLES, MOZLEY, BOREN, LINHART, BASSETT, BLISS, BURDICK, CRANDALL and many more http://wc.rootsweb.com/~hendersonscholes http://justonestory.com

Hello, I have discovered that I have ancestors who came from Affeltrangen, Canton of Thurgau in Switzerland. Although Affeltrangen has a website, I am unable to locate it on a map of Switzerland. Can anyone help? Lola M Weber

> Von: Trains75buff@aol.com [mailto:Trains75buff@aol.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 5. November 2005 21:50 > > Hello again, I forgot about Wolf W. Seelentag's Swiss GEN > site and found the _Historical map of Switzerland (1536-1798)_ > (http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/ch1798.gif) . > So another question. On the map is shows Biel as a blue dot > and it is "Zugewandte Ort". Is Biel an independent city in > 1798? Is Nidau part of Biel in 1798? This map is really to small scale to answer this question. The map on http://www.geneal-forum.com/forum_d/showthread.php?id=552 shows a border between Nidau and Biel. According to http://www.nidau.ch/de/03_portrait/geschichte.shtml?navid=34 Nidau became part of Bern in 1388. According to http://www.dhs.ch/externe/protect/textes/d/D222-1-379.html Biel belonged to the Bishopric Basel (Eveche de Bale) - which was a "zugewandter Ort" - see http://swiss.genealogy.net/kant/bafb-d.htm for a detailed history of the Bishopric (unfortunately available in German only). Best regards - Wolf > Andreas Dättwyler remarried in 1799 and had 4 more children > born in Nidau. > Last question. Why was Andreas in 1798? > Thank you again, Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA

> Von: Trains75buff@aol.com [mailto:Trains75buff@aol.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 5. November 2005 19:33 > > Hello again, thank you all that answer my questions. > I really was trying to find Sombeval and Nidau in the year > 1798, not currently in 2005. So, can someone tell me a place > to find a map of Canton Bern in 1798? > Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA The villages will not have moved a lot since then ;-). On http://www.geneal-forum.com/forum_d/showthread.php?id=552 you'll find a link to a collection of historic maps. There is no large scale map of Bern around 1800 - but a Swiss map of 1794. The example included on the above web page shows Nidau in the bottom right corner. Sombeval is too small to be indicated on this map - but nearby Soncebas (Sonceboz) is. In case you want to download entire maps (which is possible) your internet connection should not be too slow: most maps are between 5 and 10 MB ! It is quite fast, however, to get just a "thumbnail" where you can click on the region of interest, and see a small part of the map immediately; it is also quite fast to shift the detail map left/right or up/down. Very nice maps and a very nice page indeed! Best regards - Wolf

Hello again, I forgot about Wolf W. Seelentag's Swiss GEN site and found the _Historical map of Switzerland (1536-1798)_ (http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/ch1798.gif) . So another question. On the map is shows Biel as a blue dot and it is "Zugewandte Ort". Is Biel an independent city in 1798? Is Nidau part of Biel in 1798? Andreas Dättwyler remarried in 1799 and had 4 more children born in Nidau. Last question. Why was Andreas in 1798? Thank you again, Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA

Hello again, thank you all that answer my questions. I really was trying to find Sombeval and Nidau in the year 1798, not currently in 2005. So, can someone tell me a place to find a map of Canton Bern in 1798? Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA