On 2/10/06, Robert Rothenbuhler <rrothenbuhler@austin.rr.com> wrote: > Hi List, > I realize this is not genealogy related, but where can I get the names of all the Swiss participating in the 2006 Winter Games? > > thanks, > robert See: http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/torino2006/athletes?lname=all&country=che&sport=all -- Debbie Schnell Woolard Want a Gmail account? Ask me for an invite

The hard stuff. Stills were plentiful in Penn's Trust were they also as commonly found among German=speakers in Europe in the 17th and 18th centuries? Of course breweries and wineries were well known, but how about the hard stuff? I know some members of my German-speaking family's paid too much attention to their apple orchards and their beloved stills. Seems to help explain the failures of one or two family members. MY QUESTION IS Was the still and the abundance of readily available fruit and grain something new to these early colonials. Later of course Hamilton found it an easy way to raise money - tax the distillers. It was the first of a tax pattern which has become inbred in our society.

> Von: Robert Rothenbuhler [mailto:rrothenbuhler@Austin.rr.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Februar 2006 04:45 > > Hi List, > I realize this is not genealogy related, but where can I get > the names of all the Swiss participating in the 2006 Winter Games? > > thanks, > robert http://tinyurl.com/c4y6x incl. pictures of all of them - click on "Gallery: Alle Athleten im Bild" (directly under the headline). Best regards - Wolf

Hi List, I realize this is not genealogy related, but where can I get the names of all the Swiss participating in the 2006 Winter Games? thanks, robert

Hi List, I have just located Lewis Rohrbach's email address. It is..... LewisRohrbach@SwissGenealogy.com thanks, robert

Hi List, Would anyone have Lewis Rohrbach's email address? thanks, robert

Ken, go to the website www.pictonpress.com and they offer THE MEN OF BERN. They also have a list of surnames that you can view to learn if your interests are included. and yes, it's translated to English. I think it's available now in cd format. Genealogy libraries also often have the books there. It's a set of 3 large volumes. I don't imagine it is available for inter-library loans, but maybe someone knows a place that it is. Good luck. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Ken Maggard [mailto:maggard1939@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:17 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] Men of Bern Men of Bern the 1798 Canton Bern Swiss Census: are there anyone on this list that has a copy? Is it in Englash? Does anyone know if this book can be obtained by enter-libruary loan? Thanks! --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Swiss Resource Site http://swiss.genealogy.net

Men of Bern the 1798 Canton Bern Swiss Census: are there anyone on this list that has a copy? Is it in Englash? Does anyone know if this book can be obtained by enter-libruary loan? Thanks! --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

Have you checked her return to the US with the children in the Ellis Island data base? I do know for sure that the US did not keep the ship lists of those (citizens or not) who departed from the US ports. Susan -----Original Message----- From: gmarob [mailto:gmarob@citlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:58 AM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland He came over about 1886 and she arrived in 1888 to marry him. Neither became citizens at that time. The family returned to Switzerland sometime between 1892 and 1900 - I haven't found out why yet. He died in Switzerland and she returned with her children in 1920 and remained here. -----Original Message----- From: Etudes Genealogiques - Bordeaux [mailto:genealogyrsch@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:21 AM To: 'gmarob' Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland Roberta, That means that they had a Swiss passport if they were not American citizens? Jacques de Guise -----Original Message----- From: gmarob [mailto:gmarob@citlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:11 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland They were not citizens at the time - 1892 to 1900. No passports. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph E Wolfe [mailto:joeedwolfe@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:12 AM To: gmarob@citlink.net Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland roberta...if they were a citizen of ther U.S. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HAD a passport and depending on the time they did this there are passport indexex avcaileble thorugh the local family history centers. Joe Wolfe __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Swiss Resource Site http://swiss.genealogy.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Resource Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw

I have the information regarding their return. On the manifest it states she was here from 1888 to 1890. Which isn't quite correct. According to family she arrived in 1888 to marry Andrew and left shortly after her second child was born, which was in 1893 - which I know is correct. That is why I'm looking for information ranging from 1890 to 1900. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Biedron [mailto:Susan@jsbiedron.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:04 AM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland Have you checked her return to the US with the children in the Ellis Island data base? I do know for sure that the US did not keep the ship lists of those (citizens or not) who departed from the US ports. Susan -----Original Message----- From: gmarob [mailto:gmarob@citlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:58 AM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland He came over about 1886 and she arrived in 1888 to marry him. Neither became citizens at that time. The family returned to Switzerland sometime between 1892 and 1900 - I haven't found out why yet. He died in Switzerland and she returned with her children in 1920 and remained here. -----Original Message----- From: Etudes Genealogiques - Bordeaux [mailto:genealogyrsch@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:21 AM To: 'gmarob' Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland Roberta, That means that they had a Swiss passport if they were not American citizens? Jacques de Guise -----Original Message----- From: gmarob [mailto:gmarob@citlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:11 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland They were not citizens at the time - 1892 to 1900. No passports. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph E Wolfe [mailto:joeedwolfe@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:12 AM To: gmarob@citlink.net Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland roberta...if they were a citizen of ther U.S. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HAD a passport and depending on the time they did this there are passport indexex avcaileble thorugh the local family history centers. Joe Wolfe __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Swiss Resource Site http://swiss.genealogy.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Resource Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html to unsubscribe __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

He came over about 1886 and she arrived in 1888 to marry him. Neither became citizens at that time. The family returned to Switzerland sometime between 1892 and 1900 - I haven't found out why yet. He died in Switzerland and she returned with her children in 1920 and remained here. -----Original Message----- From: Etudes Genealogiques - Bordeaux [mailto:genealogyrsch@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:21 AM To: 'gmarob' Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland Roberta, That means that they had a Swiss passport if they were not American citizens? Jacques de Guise -----Original Message----- From: gmarob [mailto:gmarob@citlink.net] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:11 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland They were not citizens at the time - 1892 to 1900. No passports. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph E Wolfe [mailto:joeedwolfe@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:12 AM To: gmarob@citlink.net Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland roberta...if they were a citizen of ther U.S. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HAD a passport and depending on the time they did this there are passport indexex avcaileble thorugh the local family history centers. Joe Wolfe __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Swiss Resource Site http://swiss.genealogy.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

They were not citizens at the time - 1892 to 1900. No passports. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph E Wolfe [mailto:joeedwolfe@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:12 AM To: gmarob@citlink.net Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Return to Switzerland roberta...if they were a citizen of ther U.S. THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HAD a passport and depending on the time they did this there are passport indexex avcaileble thorugh the local family history centers. Joe Wolfe __________ NOD32 1.1401 (20060209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Does anyone know where I might find information regarding Swiss leaving the U.S. and returning to Switzerland - between 1892 and 1900? I've been able to find when they arrived here and even when they came back to the U.S., but have been unable to find out the details on when they returned to Switzerland. Thank you. Roberta

> Von: Laura bender [mailto:smokindogs@sbcglobal.net] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 23:45 > > Hello List, > > I have a surname of HOTTINGER as an English spelling. > Would this be spelled HOTTENBARG (with the umlaut above the A?) > > Grasping at straws. > Laura Why not stay with Hottinger, which is a perfectly valid Swiss surname with places of citizenship in several cantons? Hottenbärg is not listed in Familiennamenbuch - you'd have to go for Hottenberg (citizens of Arch, canton Bern, only). Best regards - Wolf

In the research I have done, it seems the father usually marries again, after a year. Sometimes the new wife is quite a bit younger, so I assume he had hired her to look after the children, and then married. "rwalker"

Hello Listers, the book show men in Canton Bern in 1798 only. I don't have the book. Try _http://www.pictonpress.com/Swiss_Surnames.htm_ (http://www.pictonpress.com/Swiss_Surnames.htm) Alan Rossing

Hello List, I have a surname of HOTTINGER as an English spelling. Would this be spelled HOTTENBARG (with the umlaut above the A?) Grasping at straws. Laura

Hello Listers, another question. I GGGrandfather Andreas DäTTWYLER was born in 1759 in Biel, Canton Bern. He married Elizabeth WILHELM in 1782 and had 3 children born 1784, 1787 and 1789. She died, I think, in 1798 in Biel, Canton Bern. I have not found him in the book "Men of Bern". Only DäTHWYLER/ DäTWEILER/ DäTWEILLER/ DäTWEYLER/ etc. Can a person be not counted? Thank you, Alan Rossing, California, USA

Hello Listers, I have a question. In the 1700's if the mother died with 3 small children, will the husband take care of the children? or the maternal or paternal grandparents? Thank you, Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA

Hallo Liste! Die Familie Salzgeber kommt ursprünglich aus der Schweiz. Ich möchte den Vorfahren Anschluß zwischen der Schweiz und Deutschland finden. Hat jemand irgendwelche Informationen über diese Familie oder Jacob Salzgeber? Ich möchte jeder für jede mögliche Hilfe im voraus danken, die Sie mir geben können. OSB Oberöwisheim Nr. 1841: oo 23.01.1703 evang.: Heinrich Salzgeber, Schneider, <Sohn d. Jacob S., Schneider, Gerichtsverwandter zu Adelshofen> * ..., + 29.10.1734 in Oberöwisheim, Franzisca Elisabeth Agnes Rapperger, katholisch, <Tochter d. Georg R., verstorbener Schreiner> * ca. 1687, + 25.03.1739 in Oberöwisheim, alt 52 Jahre, Rapperger: "wurde nach ihres Vaters Tod von Frau Anna Maria von Helmstatt geb. von Gemmingen, evangelisch erzogen" 7 Kinder: Maria Magdalena, * 22.06.1705 in Oberöwisheim, <siehe 0779> Anna Maria, * 01.05.1707 in Oberöwisheim, + 20.12.1708 in Oberöwisheim; Johann Andreas, * 27.12.1708 in Oberöwisheim, Hans Heinrich, * 27.02.1712 in Oberöwisheim, + 13.02.1714 in Oberöwisheim; Anna Maria, * 10.09.1715 in Oberöwisheim, Johann Heinrich, * 04.02.1719 in Oberöwisheim, + 10.04.1721 in Oberöwisheim; Maria Sophia, * 14.09.1722 in Oberöwisheim, + 31.05.1725 in Oberöwisheim; OSB Oberöwisheim Nr. 0779: oo 10.07.1736 in Oberöwisheim, kath..: Johann Georg Görner, Bauer, <Sohn d. Conrad G., verstorbener Bürger zu Langenbrücken> * ..., <siehe 2621> + 04.01.1763 in Oberöwisheim, Maria Magdalena Salzgeber, <aus 1841>, 1735 konvertiert zur kath. Konfession, <Tochter d. Heinrich S., Schneider> * 22.06.1705 in Oberöwisheim, + vor 1746; Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Lisa Salzgeber-Bohner bohner@iol.ie