Hi Susan, try the Federal Military Library in Bern http://tinyurl.com/gz79z I'm sure they would recognise it if Swiss. Go to "employees" and select "Schaerer Stefan". Best regards - Wolf > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Susan Biedron [mailto:Susan@jsbiedron.com] > Gesendet: Montag, 27. März 2006 21:59 > > I have a photograph of a soldier from about 1870. Naturally, > there is no identification on the reverse side. It was taken > in a photo studio in Stuttgart, but several years ago someone > said it looked like a Swiss uniform. If anyone in the list is > knowledgeable about Swiss uniforms, I could send a scanned > copy privately. > > Thank you, > Susan Biedron

I'd be interested in joining a DNA site. I'm the last male direct descendant of my Swiss immigrants, so it's a straight paternal shot back to Switzerland. That's really catching on. I also belong to the Graves Family Association group through my mother's line, and they've done a lot of work. They're at www.gravesfa.org . Best, Walter Jenny Jr. Edmond OK -- Support the TKE Educational Foundation with your online purchases, at no additional cost to you! Simply go to http://www.iGive.com/TEF, sign up, and start shopping! Also, use http://taukappaepsilon.meetup.com/ to promote your TKE alumni meetings!

I have a photograph of a soldier from about 1870. Naturally, there is no identification on the reverse side. It was taken in a photo studio in Stuttgart, but several years ago someone said it looked like a Swiss uniform. If anyone in the list is knowledgeable about Swiss uniforms, I could send a scanned copy privately. Thank you, Susan Biedron

Hi Susan, It seems to me, that unless the soldier in the photo is an officer, it is highly unlikely that a Swiss soldier would be in Germany in uniform. The year you mention suggests the Franco-Prussian War [In France and Germany the war is known as the Franco-German War, in French as Guerre franco-allemande de 1870 (French-German War of 1870) and in German as Deutsch-Französischer Krieg (German-French War), which perhaps more accurately describes the combatants rather than simply France and Prussia alone.] See Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War If the man in the photo is an officer, he could have been in Stuttgart as an observer. Since there were many different "German" states/kingdoms/duchies etc in the war, and various branches/specialties, there would have been a plethora of uniforms styles/types walking around a city like Stuttgart which is not too far from the border with France. I suggest you snoop about the web for groups that play war games using tin soldiers (miniature metal or plastic soldiers), military-historical associations, regimental organizations. If at first you don't find anything, keep trying for at least an hour. Use "Franco-Prussian War games" "Franco-Prussian War reenactment" and keep feeding of the info you find in each relevant site to fuel further searches. If that doesn't bear fruti, try Deutsch-Französischer Krieg and Guerre franco-allemande de 1870 in your search. Maybe someone on this list can tell you how to say "war games" and "reenactment" in German and/or French. Some military history hobbyist you contact through one of these web sites might find it a challenge to identify the uniform. Regards, Paul

Liebe Listenteilnehmer, Ich suche Informationen über Jakob Salzgeber und sein Vater Hans Saltzgeber von Fanas,Graubünden hierzu steht in „Schweizer Einwanderer in den Kraichgau“ folgendes: Salzgeber, Jakob, von Fanas, Graubünden („Naass“ im Kirchenbuch), Schneider (Vater Hans S.) +Adelshofen 13.03.1736 (92 Jährig, seit 12 J. blind), OO Elsenz 09.11.1671 (KB Hilsbach) Agatha Huber (+Adelshofen 01.03.1708; Vater: Hans Huber von Gerolsheim bei Frankenthal); OO II Adelshofen (luth.) 26.11.1733 Anna Christina, Witwe von Paulus Weber, +Adelshofen 29.08.1733 (ca. 58 Jährig) ; 3 Kinder aus 1. Ehe 1673, 1674 und 1678 in Adelshofen getauft Wer kann Hinweise auf die Person und seine Familie liefern? Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Lisa Salzgeber-Bohner bohner@iol.ie

Hi, Dale. I am a participant in the Mills DNA study, but my Grandmother was Swiss - from Grindelwald. Her name was Emma Luise Almer, daughter of Johannes Almer and Emma Katharina Bohren. I don't know if providing the results of the Mills DNA study would be useful, but I am willing to do it. It was the FamilyTree DNA testing service. Regards to all (especially any Almers/Bohrens out there that are looking for family). Jim Mills in California -----Original Message----- From: dbricker@cyburban.com [mailto:dbricker@cyburban.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 7:33 AM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] Swiss DNA Project I am already the coordinator of the Bricker (including Bruegger, Brugger, etc) DNA Project, and have been waiting for someone else to begin a Swiss geographical DNA project that I could join which would be for all those who have Swiss roots. Just to count other places which begin with the letter "S", there are already such DNA projects for Sicily, Scandinavia, the Shetland Islands, etc. So why not Switzerland? I have given up waiting, and now would be willing to contribute my experience......such as it is.....to join with two or so people committed to creating and maintaining a website for such a Swiss-wide project. I don't have time to do the whole thing myself. I see such a website as a place to begin collecting the DNA profiles (patrilineal Y-DNA and matrilineal mtDNA) of those of Swiss origin to see if patterns start to develop which indicate regional concentrations of particular profiles. I am aware of at least seventy-five people who both have already had their DNA tested and who have knowledge of their Swiss roots. For anyone who has some knowledge of ancient Swiss history, I was found two weeks ago to have a "SNP" which may indicate my genetic connection to the Alemanni who were migrating into Switzerland at the time of Julius Caesar and over the next hundreds of years, eventually assimilating if not displacing the Celtic Helvetii people already in place. Thanks, Dale Bricker ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html to unsubscribe nothing in message

Good work, Dale. For those whose Swiss ancestors came from the French-speaking areas, we already have the French Swiss DNA Project at www.familytreedna.com/public/FrenchSwiss We welcome both paternal (Y-DNA) and maternal (mtDNA) lines. Carol At 10:32 AM -0500 3/27/06, dbricker@cyburban.com wrote: >I am already the coordinator of the Bricker (including Bruegger, >Brugger, etc) DNA Project, and have been waiting for someone else to >begin a Swiss geographical DNA project that I could join which would >be for all those who have Swiss roots. Just to count other places >which begin with the letter "S", there are already such DNA projects >for Sicily, Scandinavia, the Shetland Islands, etc. So why not >Switzerland? > >I have given up waiting, and now would be willing to contribute my >experience......such as it is.....to join with two or so people >committed to creating and maintaining a website for such a >Swiss-wide project. I don't have time to do the whole thing myself. >I see such a website as a place to begin collecting the DNA profiles >(patrilineal Y-DNA and matrilineal mtDNA) of those of Swiss origin >to see if patterns start to develop which indicate regional >concentrations of particular profiles. I am aware of at least >seventy-five people who both have already had their DNA tested and >who have knowledge of their Swiss roots. > >For anyone who has some knowledge of ancient Swiss history, I was >found two weeks ago to have a "SNP" which may indicate my genetic >connection to the Alemanni who were migrating into Switzerland at >the time of Julius Caesar and over the next hundreds of years, >eventually assimilating if not displacing the Celtic Helvetii people >already in place. > >Thanks, > >Dale Bricker

I am already the coordinator of the Bricker (including Bruegger, Brugger, etc) DNA Project, and have been waiting for someone else to begin a Swiss geographical DNA project that I could join which would be for all those who have Swiss roots. Just to count other places which begin with the letter "S", there are already such DNA projects for Sicily, Scandinavia, the Shetland Islands, etc. So why not Switzerland? I have given up waiting, and now would be willing to contribute my experience......such as it is.....to join with two or so people committed to creating and maintaining a website for such a Swiss-wide project. I don't have time to do the whole thing myself. I see such a website as a place to begin collecting the DNA profiles (patrilineal Y-DNA and matrilineal mtDNA) of those of Swiss origin to see if patterns start to develop which indicate regional concentrations of particular profiles. I am aware of at least seventy-five people who both have already had their DNA tested and who have knowledge of their Swiss roots. For anyone who has some knowledge of ancient Swiss history, I was found two weeks ago to have a "SNP" which may indicate my genetic connection to the Alemanni who were migrating into Switzerland at the time of Julius Caesar and over the next hundreds of years, eventually assimilating if not displacing the Celtic Helvetii people already in place. Thanks, Dale Bricker

Dale, I'm head of a small family DNA project and have two results in the mix who have partial (minority) Swiss (Bern) ancestry many generations back. Question 1: What percent Swiss ancestry should a person have before they join a project such as you propose? Question 2: My project is with FamilyTreeDNA. Can we use existing results (y-Chromasome, 17 marker, I think) and ask FTDNA to supply results to your new group/study? Regards, Paul near Portland, Oregon

> Von: Susan Biedron [mailto:Susan@jsbiedron.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 24. März 2006 17:51 > > Hello, > > I have a marriage record for Anna Elisabeth MOSER that states > she was born 27 February 1872 in Kanton Bern Schweiz. Her > father was FRIEDRICH MOSER. With this information, is it > possible to find a village? With just this information? Not really - see http://www.geneal-forum.com/forum_d/showthread.php?id=747 for information on the spread of Moser: it is a fairly common name with a large number of potential places of citizenship. Best regards - Wolf > Thank you, > Susan Biedron

Hans Allenbach was christen 11 Jan 1680 in Frutigen, Canton Bern. His parents were Christen Allenbach and Anna Zahler. Hans married 3 May 1703 in Frutigen to Anna Megert. Who can help me find Anna Megert's parents? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

Hello, I have a marriage record for Anna Elisabeth MOSER that states she was born 27 February 1872 in Kanton Bern Schweiz. Her father was FRIEDRICH MOSER. With this information, is it possible to find a village? Thank you, Susan Biedron

My mother-in-law's father was born in Switzerland in 1898 and immigrated to America in 1920. In 1942, the mother-in- law and her 2 sisters were placed under Swiss protection and jurisdiction. Can anyone tell me what this is, or recommend an article about it? Shari in Ohio

Looking for spouse and children for Eduard Oeschger - Born - 6/17/1827 and died - 9/3/1909. Believe he lived in Gansingen. Also spouse and children for Siegfried Oeschger - born 3/15/1825 and also in the Gansingen area. Believe he may have migrated to the U.S. Harold Esker Akron,Ohio

Hy Jamie The husband of my sister is also named "Köbu" (kebbou). This is a nickname of Jakob in Bern dialect. Jean-Pierre -----Original Message----- From: Jamie [mailto:BakerJ@coralwave.com] Sent: jeudi 9 mars 2006 16:47 To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] Translation of KEB/KEBBY Would anyone know what "KEB" or "KEBBY" might mean in Swiss-German? My GGGrandmother was born Bern, Switzerland area in 1838 and used to call her grandson (my Grandfather who was born 1904) Keb and Kebby. The family lore is that this was some sort of endearment term, such as little darling, sweet little boy, little boy, etc. I've checked some of the online translation sites and not found anything similar. Could it be a sort of slang, or old term? Thanks for any suggestions. Jamie ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Resource Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw

Brenda, I'm not sure about your first question. It's difficult to surmise the meaning without seeing the full context, formatting and other records in that section of the Kirchenbuch. In my experience, the underlined name is usually the child being baptized. Adding various suffixes to names may be nothing more than a common attempt of the minister to "latin-ize" the name. On your second question, my bet is on Elsa, which I have come across quite regularly. Best wishes, Jim Researching the following surnames: RIEDI, STECHER, GRASS, WAZAU, RUBEN, MARKES, FOPPER, CANTIENI, WALTHER, MASÜGER, RONSENROLL, LANICCA, TSCHARNER -----Original Message----- From: BPerk930@aol.com [mailto:BPerk930@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:06 AM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] Need Kirchenbuch help please I'm fairly new to Swiss records, although I've looked at German records in the past, and am having a bit of trouble. I'm hoping that someone out there can help me. I'm looking at the Kirchenbuch for the Diemtigen valley in the canton of Bern. I need help with 2 items, so far. First: The following is my transcription of what I think a baptismal record says: "Christian Kloßner} Niklaustens Christian aus Riedern..." The part of this that I don't understand has been underlined. Is this indicating that the child being baptized is Christian, whose father is Christian, son of Niklaus [grandfather]? What I think is "tens" is sometimes used, however, this part of the records may have something like "Davids Jakob" which I think indicates that Jakob is the father of the baptized child and David is the grandfather. Can anyone tell me if I'm correct?? Second: I'm finding an odd female name which may be an abbreviation. It seems to be "Elra". I really can only make out the "E" and the "a" for sure. Does anyone know what this might be? I don't think its "Ehe." Thanks so much for any help! Brenda ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Swiss Resource Site http://swiss.genealogy.net

I'm fairly new to Swiss records, although I've looked at German records in the past, and am having a bit of trouble. I'm hoping that someone out there can help me. I'm looking at the Kirchenbuch for the Diemtigen valley in the canton of Bern. I need help with 2 items, so far. First: The following is my transcription of what I think a baptismal record says: "Christian Kloßner} Niklaustens Christian aus Riedern..." The part of this that I don't understand has been underlined. Is this indicating that the child being baptized is Christian, whose father is Christian, son of Niklaus [grandfather]? What I think is "tens" is sometimes used, however, this part of the records may have something like "Davids Jakob" which I think indicates that Jakob is the father of the baptized child and David is the grandfather. Can anyone tell me if I'm correct?? Second: I'm finding an odd female name which may be an abbreviation. It seems to be "Elra". I really can only make out the "E" and the "a" for sure. Does anyone know what this might be? I don't think its "Ehe." Thanks so much for any help! Brenda

Looking for anyone researching this family name possibly from Aargau. Thanks, Paul Wright -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)

> Von: Susan Biedron [mailto:Susan@jsbiedron.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 10. März 2006 23:51 > > In the 1880's, would a person from southern Germany (Baden) > and a person from St. Gallen Switzerland be able to > understand each other? Sure - als long a both were trying to understand each other ;-). > Would they speak the same kind of German? Hmmm ... depends on what you call "the same kind of German". Both would be "Allemannic" dialects. Best regards - Wolf > Thank you, > Susan

In the 1880's, would a person from southern Germany (Baden) and a person from St. Gallen Switzerland be able to understand each other? Would they speak the same kind of German? Thank you, Susan