Hi, I'm researching the surname PROGIN, possibly in Fribourg. Some of the family that came to the US changed the name to PROGEN in the late 1800s. Brandy
Dear Doug, you have to either just click on it (most mail programs will then automatically start your browser) or type it in EXACTLY as it is, incl. all dots, there are no spaces in URLs - and they are also case sensitive : http://swiss.genealogy.net Of course, servers occasionally play up - but in this case you would most likely get an "error 400". This shouldn't bother you too much - as SwissGen is available from several mirror servers. For people in the USA most likely the fastest one will be http://german.genealogy.net/gene/reg/CH/ or you try the Swiss http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/ or German alternative http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/reg/CH/ Good luck with your further research - Wolf ------------- wolf@swissmail.com > ---------- > Von: DHILBS@aol.com[SMTP:DHILBS@aol.com] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. Januar 2000 03:20 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [SWITZ] web address > > Hello to all. I'm a 'newbie'. > > Would someone please explain why I cannot access the web address that is > continually given in EMail messages. That is HTTP:// swissgenealogy.net. > I > get the message HTTP 500 internal server error. Page cannot be displayed. > > What am I doing or not doing? > > Thanks in advance. > > Doug Hilby > dhilbs@aol.com > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >
Hello to all. I'm a 'newbie'. Would someone please explain why I cannot access the web address that is continually given in EMail messages. That is HTTP:// swissgenealogy.net. I get the message HTTP 500 internal server error. Page cannot be displayed. What am I doing or not doing? Thanks in advance. Doug Hilby dhilbs@aol.com
My interest is in my g-grandfather Michael Kehrli age 36, wife Elizabeth Blattner Kehrli age 32, and children: Elizabeth age 9 b. Switzerland - d.xxxx ; Anne age 5 born: Switzerland and later children all born in Ridgway,PA Minnie b. 1871 - d. 1883 age 11+; Frederick b. 1875 Ridgway,PA - d. 1953 New York State; and Gertrude b. xxxx - d. xxxx. Michael was a tanner in Ridgway,PA, PA The basic information supplied above is out of: Edited by Ira A. Glazier and P. William Filby, GERMANS TO AMERICA - List of Passengers Arriving at US Ports Vol 25 January 1871 - September 1871; Scholarly Resources, Inc; Wilmington, Delaware. (0-8420-2402-6). Can anyone aid me in determining where the Kehrli's resided in Switzerland prior to their travel in 1871? Regards, Bill
I am looking for the father of Xavier Dizler (Dissler, Disler, Ditzler) who lived in Luzerne and owned the Hotel Gruttle (Ruttle). His father disowned Xavier because he married a peasant named Elizabeth Sopfe (Zopfi) who was born in Bern. Xavier was born in 1847 and Elizabeth in 1843. Both immigrated to Pueblo, Colorado, USA in the 1870s. If you have any information on Xavier, his parents/siblings, the hotel, or Elizabeth, you could provide me, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ----------------------- Michael Joseph http://www.users.uswest.net/~mjoseph
I am looking for the ancestors of Penti/Penteli STOHLER and his wife Elsbeth RUDI(N) who married 21 January 1690 Bubendorf,Basel,Switzerland. Their children were as follows: Hans Jacob STOHLER christened 12 October 1690 Bubendorf Maria STOHLER christened 11 September 1692 Bubendorf Sebastian STOHLER christened 25 December 1694 (my line) Bubendorf Magdelena STOHLER christened 22 November 1696 Ziefen Fridrich STOHLER christened 27 March 1698 Bubendorf Anna Margreth STOHLER christened 3 July 1701 Bubendorf Penti STOHLER christened 25 July 1704 Bubendorf Elisabeth/Elsbeth STOHLER christened 8 January 1706 Bubendorf Does anyone know why one child or some children would be christened in one place and other in another place? Any help with this line would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cindy Fregoe Massena,NY
Hi, I just joined this web-page, and new to this "people Hunting", and also new to P.C. At 67 years kids fixed me up and now i am a menace to all. Ha. Looking for links, information on Hunzikers. My Gr. Gr. Grandfather (Friedrich Hunziker was born in Unterkulm, Canton Argau, Switzerland, in 1829. Came to America in 1881. He married Elizabeth Sigerist (12/19/1828), daughter of John Sigerist. Any info on the John Sigerist family would be appreciated als.
Bonjour, Je fais des recherches g�n�alogiques sur mes ascendants dont une branche est originaire du Jura . Mon arri�re grand-m�re HUMARD Marie est n�e le 09.05.1853 � FREGIECOURT. Elle �pousa BESANCON Joseph (n� le 25.02.1852) � ST URSANNE le 25.01.1878. La m�re de BESANCON Joseph s'appelle FLEURY Eug�nie ou Eug�nis (incertitude sur le pr�nom). Pouvez-vous m'aider dans mes recherches ? Merci.
My 3rd-great grandfather, Benedict KADERLI, was born in 1832 at Mulchi, Canton Bern. He died in 1893 in Comal County, Texas. He was married to Anetta ZUEND in 1862 at Alstadten. She was born in 1839 at St. Galien and died in 1923 at New Braunfels, Comal County, Texas. Benedict emmigrated accompanied by his wife and their four children: Marie, Albert, Emil and Emilie to Texas from Le Havre, France on or about the 15th day of September 1873. They arrived at the port of New Orleans aborad the vessel Hamburg. After arriving in Texas, two additional children were born: Louis and Frieda. Benedict had two older brothers that also emmigrated to Texas: Jacob & Johannes. And two sisters: Anna Barbara "Belena", who married Abraham Louis BUECHE; and Marie KADERLI, who married Friedrich FAIGAUX. Does anyone recognize these KADERLI families? Would love to find the parents of Benedict! Thank you, Lisa Williams Texas
Hi there, I'm new to the list and on behalf of a friend Sue Tolley (nee LEDERREY) I am researching the LEDERREY family name. We believe her frandfather was a Jean LEDERREY who, on the 1881 census in Stoke Newington UK, was aged 23 and living with his English wife Harret Anne and their one month old child Henry Tallentine. The IGI only has information on LEDERREY in Switzerland so it is very much a Swiss name - is there anyone else out there researching this name who might be able to give me a lead? What facilities are there on the web for carrying out family history searches in Switzerland - particularly French Switzerland which would presumably be based in Geneva? Brings back happy memories as I lived in Nyon 15k outside Geneva for a couple of years in the late 1960's My thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. Jenny Jones Cornwall UK.
Hello: I'm new to the list. I am interested to know if the surname LAFLER (LAFFLER) is of Swiss origin? I have an ancestor with this name who was living in Somerset Co., NJ in 1747. I have not yet found the immigrant but am working on it. Thank you. Annie
Dear Shalori: SwissGen's cantonal webpage on FR, listing State Archives in town of Fribourg, and local genealogical society, and e-mail contacts: http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/kant/frallg-e.htm Civil records: ============= Etat civil bd Pérolles 2 CH-1700 Fribourg Switzerland ============= Some records to check out in the LDS Family History Library Catalog: http://www.familysearch.org/fhlc/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetai ls&subject=160505 best wishes, Dave Schmutz -----Original Message----- From: Shalori [mailto:Shalori@shalori.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 5:35 PM To: dschmutz@es.com Subject: Re: Fribourg - parish & civil record address The town of Fribourg is the online address what I am looking for. Shalori dschmutz@es.com wrote: > Dear Shalori: > > Do you mean the town of Fribourg or individual villages in the canton of Fribourg (FR)? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shalori [mailto:Shalori@shalori.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:50 PM > To: dschmutz@es.com > Cc: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] parish registers of Vermes & Montsevelier, JU > > Is there an online address for Fribourg? for parish, civil records? > Shalori -- No person is your friend who demands your silence or denies your right to grow.-Alice Walker
Hi, listers, well good news of sorts in my ancestorial hunt...i finally found my family back in Cevio, Ticino....at least back to 1672. I have a perplexing question? Why would the Roman Catholic Church change a family's surname in 1831? The name i know of is FILIPPINI, but back in church manuscripts its spelled 11 different ways.? And mostly with a "P" and then different ways within. Can someone help me? If you think your answer would bennefit the list you may post there or to me privately. Thanks "Genealogists never die, they just loose their census, or their roots...."
Dear Patty, > ---------- > Von: Patty and Charlie[SMTP:pandcbrown@bwn.net] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Januar 2000 10:07 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [SWITZ] Straubenzell Question > > I now know for sure that my ancestors (great-great grandfather and > great-great-great-grandfather) held citizenship in Straubenzell. I have > a couple questions about that: > > 1. It is my understanding that Straubenzell no longer exists but that > the area which used to be Straubenzell is now the western part of the > city of St. Gallen - am I correct about that? > It still exists ;-) - just not as an independent community : you're correct, since 1918 it is part of the city of St.Gallen. > 2. What was Straubenzell - a city? a canton? > A small community - you wouldn't integrate a canton (compare this to a state in the USA) into a city, would you ? > 3. For my g-g-g-grandfather to have held citizenship in Straubenzell, > wouldn't some ancestor have had to have lived in that area originally to > have initially established that citizenship? > True - the family would have been living in the area for some time. > I know that my g-g-grandfather was born in Rorschach (1836) and have > been fortunate enough to find his baptismal record, a report card for > his attendance at a school in Rorschach, and a record of him depositing > his Heimatschein in Rheineck for a few years prior to emigrating to the > US. > > I am now trying to determine where my g-g-g-grandfather was born > (1801). I do understand that where he holds citizenship may be totally > unrelated to where he lived. > True - not as much then as nowadays - but still quite true then. > However, several of the documents I have > say "von Bruggen" on them. I have been told that Bruggen could have > been used interchangeably with Straubenzell, thus this is just an > indication of his citizenship in Straubenzell. Could it also be an > indication that he moved to Rorschach from Bruggen, and therefore > Bruggen church records might be a good place to look for his baptismal > records? > Bruggen was a village near the village of Straubenzell; together with other villages it formed the community of Straubenzell. Consequently there was no citizenship of Bruggen - these people would have been citizens of Straubenzell - at least officially; I wouldn't be surprised at all, however, if "von Bruggen" was occasionally used instead of "von Straubenzell" - indicating that the family, whilst citizens of Straubenzell, for the insider would be a Bruggen family (either of long tradition, or just living there) - especially as Bruggen was in fact larger than Straubenzell, and the church was in Bruggen ;-). So the Bruggen church records (baptismal records dating back to 1774 only - marriages to 1637) might be a good thing to check (filmed !). > Thanks in advance for any information, suggestions! Patty in Colorado, > USA > Good luck with your further research, and best regards - Wolf ---------------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf@swissmail.com Reherstr. 19, CH - 9016 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel (home) : +41-71-2885121 Fax : +49-89-2443-91987 Tel (work) : +41-71-4942233
Dear KREIDER researchers: I have updated the information in SwissGen's SSD about the KREIDER surname. I have included data from FNBS 1989 (Baden, AG from before 1800), checked in von Moos (nothing found), and added the 1996 phonebook village listings (5 were found). Please e-mail off-line if you would like the street addresses of the Kreider telephone listings (data was in 1996) in Switzerland. Please visit: http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ to obtain the updated data from SwissGen's SSD. best wishes, Dave Schmutz p.s. by looking on www.mapquest.com I can see that Baden and Dättwil are next to each other. -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Himmelberger [mailto:mahimmel@nbn.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:36 PM To: dschmutz@es.com Subject: KREIDER Dave, I took a few minutes to look through my files since reading your last message again. It finally dawned on me that you were asking about the KREIDER family's origin. From a book at our local Historical Society, I learned that the KREIDERS lived along the Rhine River in Switzerland and brothers Martin, Michael and Jacob were born there. Martin and his sons Joseph, John Jacob and Frederick landed in the USA on 16 Sep 1736, in Philadelphia on board the ship "Princess Augusta." Martin's brother, Jacob, had come over in 1712 and was already settled in Conestoga, Lancaster Co., PA, when Martin came over. Martin's other brother, Michael, had arrived 11 Aug 1732, and he also had settled in Conestoga, Lancaster Co., PA. There the confusion begins as there are so many KREIDER male family members all with the same name not to mention they began to intermarry. I do know that my husband's line descends from Rev. Martin KREIDER, Sr. and Anna Catharine SCHMUTZ. I think this is why I put the KREIDER file aside...a little confusing and I didn't have the time I needed to spend on it to sort it all out. There is plenty of older material in our local Historical Society's library...I just need the time! Also, I use Family Tree Maker and I haven't updated all my files to Version 7. Rev. Martin Kreider, Sr. was very instrumental in the forming of the United Brethren Church in Lebanon. He was formerly a Mennonite and he had worked with Boehm and Otterbein in their labors for the United Brethren Church. His grandson, Christian S. Kreider, was the founder of Salem United Brethren Church at Ninth and Church Streets in Lebanon, the mother U.B. church of Lebanon (now Covenant United Methodist Church). Hope I haven't bored you! Melanie
Dear Shalori: Do you mean the town of Fribourg or individual villages in the canton of Fribourg (FR)? -----Original Message----- From: Shalori [mailto:Shalori@shalori.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:50 PM To: dschmutz@es.com Cc: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SWITZ] parish registers of Vermes & Montsevelier, JU Is there an online address for Fribourg? for parish, civil records? Shalori
Dear Gene: What was the webaddress of the listing of villages I sent you last night? Take a look in there and see if there is a village named like that or a spelling variation. Substitute 'u' for 'i,' etc. Look over the list with your eyes, don't use the "find" feature in your program. Sound it out with your mouth.....put a German or French accent on it. What address are you looking for? best wishes, Dave Schmutz p.s. You may want to check the work Billeter did. He did research on Kohler in the village you will find on the listing. **hint** The village is in canton BE. -----Original Message----- From: SKARBO@aol.com [mailto:SKARBO@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:24 AM To: dschmutz@es.com Subject: Re: RE: [SWITZ] Seedorf the same as Seehof??? Dave, Thanks for the info, I have a Mormon church near where I live here in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS SEARCH AND FOUND MANY DOCUMENTS. Now, I have located a Johann KOHLER in a village called Simiswald, in Switzerland I do not know where that is nor the address of it.??? Any help that you can give me will help. Thanks, Regards, Gene KOHLER. > <SKARBO@aol.com>
> Von: Anna Rufer[SMTP:rufer@xtra.co.nz] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Januar 2000 08:44 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [SWITZ] New Swiss Civil Registration Ordinance > > Dear Dr Seelentag & others interested - > Does this alarmingly expensive piece of news also apply if you want to go > and view the Famielenschein in person? > Unfortunately - yes - or to make it even worse : you will not be allowed to view the original register at all, if someone adheres to the new ordinance strictly :-(. And someone who wants to be left alone will just do that ! The ordinance states that under normal circumstances you shouldn't get access to the register, but get a Familienschein as an excerpt of the relevant data instead - so there is some freedom of interpretation what "normal circumstances" are. Good luck - Wolf
Dear Dr Seelentag & others interested - Does this alarmingly expensive piece of news also apply if you want to go and view the Famielenschein in person? A couple of years back I went & viewed the books (at no cost, but after several days wait for an appointment!) & was able to transcribe the relevant pages myself. My mother-in-law is returning to Switzerland later in the year and I was hoping to send her on a mission for me whilst there! My canton of interest is Obwalden, and the LDS have not microfilmed ANY church records from there at all. The family books are also of course much more valuable than church records as they group families together so you don't have to "guess" which ones are yours. I traced my RUFER & LANGENSAND families back 5 generations in 10 minutes on my last trip! I wish English records were so wonderful! Thank you for the thorough explanation. Regards - Anna - from New Zealand
Dear SKARBO: Here is the "Reply!!!" You may check on it yourself at: http://www.geocities.com/swissschmutz/chpostal.html No, it is not the same, in fact there are 3 Seedorf in different cantons in Switzerland. But Seehof is in canton BE. Remember, once you have found your village and the canton, you can always check to see what records are available through the wonderful resources of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' Family History Library website by starting at SwissGen's hyperlink at: http://swiss.genealogy.net/ldsloc-m.htm best wishes in your continued Swiss research, Dave Schmutz -----Original Message----- From: SKARBO@aol.com [mailto:SKARBO@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 8:54 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] Re: SWITZERLAND-D Digest V00 #17 Dave, Is Seedorf the same village as Seehof.??? Reply!