Dear Haldimann/Haldemann researchers: I have joined separate entries of Haldimann (and other spellings) in SwissGen's SSD. I have also added an entry for Haldemann and confirmed that Haldeman is not listed in FNBS. Please visit http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ to obtain the new and combined information. best wishes, Dave Schmutz

Thank you, Listers, for the warning about my e-mail date being 1969!! I think it is a problem, not with my computer, but with my old (but beloved) e-mail program. I am re-submitting my KOERNSLUR message, in case some missed the first message. ____________________ I know my ggrandmother was born June 10, 1829 in Switzerland --we think Basel. Her maiden name on my grandmother's death certificate is clearly spelled Susan KOERNSLUR. But all my research so far says that that is not a recognizably Swiss name. I have wondered if it might have been KUNTZLER and was written on the certificate with the "r" sound spelled out. Does anyone have a suggestion for researching this name? I do know she married Samuel MUSTER, born in Switzerland in 1821, and that they emigrated to NY from Bremen on May 16, 1864. They are listed on the ship's passenger list as Samuel and Susanna MUSTER. But I cannot seem to get anywhere with her last name. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jo ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hello Listers, In my continuing quest for information on the Campiche family in Geneva, I have now managed to confirm through family diaries that my Marie Campiche was born and married in Geneva. Her birth date is 9 October 1832, but I have been through the LDS microfilm 1049247, which I understood to be births, marriages and deaths for Geneva 1830-34, and found absolutely nothing. I am not sure quite where I am going wrong. Could there be another film?? Could the fact that the Campiches may have been Protestants be an influencing factor? Can anyone assist?? Thanks Nick.

Hi Wolf, All I received from the Staatsarchiv is a xerox copy of a page from a parish book. It was not certified or registered. There was no stamp on it as being certified. I provided them all the infor they needed to go directly to the film. No research was required on their part. The copy I received was in old german script which I translated myself. If I knew it was going to cost me 25 Schweizer Franken, I would have paid $4.00 and ordered the film from my local LDS site and made a copy for 10cents, myself. robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Seelentag Wolfhart Dr. KSSG_RO <wolf.seelentag@kssg.ch> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 12:39 PM Subject: [SWITZ] Familenschein fees (was: Some Advice Please) > Dear Swiss Rooters, > > after the fairly recent discussion about the cumbersome procedure to get any > data from Swiss Civil Registry Offices, we now have a discussion about their > fees. I'm not going to repeat any of the earlier issues - if you are new to > the list, please, search for "ordinance" in "2000" in the list archive : > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > (note : you have to search for "Switzerland-L" as our list in a first step > !!) > > Let's now turn to the fees : as with the procedure, I'm not going to defend > them - just trying to explain ;-) !! > > The two comments below obviously refer to two different things - which > explains the different fees. > > Robert had received a photocopy : really of a birth certificate - or of a > page of an old "Burgerrodel" ? Birth certificates (or certificates for any > other single events) are not used very often for genealogical purposes in > Switzerland : usually you either get a "Familienschein" (data after 1876) or > a copy of an older Burgerrodel (if existing) for older data; both types of > document contain roughly the same information - the difference being that a > Familienschein will be typed upon request (so anyone will be able to read it > easily), whilst a Burgerrodel will be handwritten - often in old German > script. Anyway - in Robert's case, it would be a copy of some existing > record - and it would be a certified copy. So it is not only that some time > finding the record is involved (even if you supply complete data), copying, > postage, ..., fee to cash your cheque (why do you think Swiss banks do so > well ?) - the most expensive part is the certification - we are not talking > of a plain photocopy, we are talking about a legally official document. I > don't know what you have to pay in USA to get a photocopy certified by city > administration or the like - in Switzerland this will usually be in the > order of sfr 15 (some $ 10). So I wouldn't complain about this document > being too expensive - but discuss whether a genealogist actually needs such > an official document ! One could argue, all I want is a plain photocopy - > send a few IRCs (which BTW cannot easily be used by an office - so they > don't really like them !), and don't fuss around. That would make sense - to > me at least - but unfortunately that's not what Civil Registry Offices are > being told (by the law) they should do :-(. > > David had received a (newly typed) "Familienschein" : now this obviously > involves a bit more than just photocopying; data have to be typed in (they > only started to talk about putting this information on the computer fairly > recently) - that's why the fee usually depends on the number of people > mentioned : as a Familienschein is issued on a male, it will depend on the > number of wifes (and consequently number of parents-in-law, which are also > listed if info is available) and children; so there will be a basic fee plus > some per-capita-fee. I have received or seen several Familienscheins - and > the fees were usually in the range of sfr 30 ... 45 - have never seen sfr > 110 ! Unless David's ancestor was married at least five times and had some > 30 or more children, I would expect this to be a misunderstanding : as > discussed in previous mailings, you now need a cantonal permission to be > allowed to ask for a Familienschein - and obviously there is a fee for this > permission as well :-(( ! Like almost everything in Switzerland, the cantons > decide what the fee for this permission is - they usually are in the sfr 50 > ... 100 range. David : did you apply and pay for such a permission prior to > asking for the Familienschein ? If not - they likely "applied for permission > on your behalf" and then issued the Familienschein - so the sfr 110 could > consist of, let's say, sfr 80 for the permission plus sfr 30 for the actual > Familienschein. Now this is of interest to you only, if you want an > additional Familienschein (from a Civil Registry Office in the same canton): > the cantonal permission would still be valid - you'd only have to pay for > the additional Familienschein. If we finally consider the fee for the > Familienschein : this will again be a legal document, combining a marriage > certificate with 10 or more birth certificates plus likely several death > certificates - you'll end up with some sfr 2 (about $ 1.50) per documented > event - not too bad a deal (if you are actually interested in all these > documents ;-)). The upsetting feature is the cantonal permission - both the > procedure itself, and the fee - especially if you can use it for just a > single Familienschein. > > I hope this helps to clarify the situation, and send my best egards - > Wolf > ---------------------- > Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf@swissmail.com > Reherstr. 19, CH - 9016 St. Gallen, Switzerland > Tel (home) : +41-71-2885121 Fax : +49-89-2443-91987 > Tel (work) : +41-71-4942233 > > > > ---------- > > Von: Robert Rothenbuhler[SMTP:piepint@nbtx.com] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2000 04:25 > > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Betreff: Fw: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > > > David, > > > > > > I received somewhat the same thing. I > > > requested and received one copy of a birth > > > notice for one of my ancestors. I sent them > > > the three international coupons, but when I > > > received the photocopy from them, they > > > wanted me to send them a check for 25 > > > Schweizer Franken. I think that is a bit > > > high for just a photocopy of a document. > > > There should have been no research > > > as I gave them all the dates and name. > > > > > > robert rothenbuhler > > > piepint@nbtx.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> > > > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:00 PM > > > Subject: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > I know that someone out there will be able to help me > > > > with this. I received a family certificate > > > > (Familienschein) for my ancestor from the > > > > Zivilstandsamt in Beringen, Schaffhausen, Switzerland. > > > > They tell me "you can borrow all the information you > > > > asked for ( as far as they are registered in our > > > > records)." > > > > They then go on to say that the charge for this family > > > > certificate amount to CHF 110.-- Please send a check > > > > to Zivilstandsamt etc. etc. etc. > > > > Would someone please explain all of this to me. > > > > Thanking You in advance, > > > > David > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Swiss Resource Site > > http://swiss.genealogy.net > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Dear Swiss Rooters, after the fairly recent discussion about the cumbersome procedure to get any data from Swiss Civil Registry Offices, we now have a discussion about their fees. I'm not going to repeat any of the earlier issues - if you are new to the list, please, search for "ordinance" in "2000" in the list archive : http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (note : you have to search for "Switzerland-L" as our list in a first step !!) Let's now turn to the fees : as with the procedure, I'm not going to defend them - just trying to explain ;-) !! The two comments below obviously refer to two different things - which explains the different fees. Robert had received a photocopy : really of a birth certificate - or of a page of an old "Burgerrodel" ? Birth certificates (or certificates for any other single events) are not used very often for genealogical purposes in Switzerland : usually you either get a "Familienschein" (data after 1876) or a copy of an older Burgerrodel (if existing) for older data; both types of document contain roughly the same information - the difference being that a Familienschein will be typed upon request (so anyone will be able to read it easily), whilst a Burgerrodel will be handwritten - often in old German script. Anyway - in Robert's case, it would be a copy of some existing record - and it would be a certified copy. So it is not only that some time finding the record is involved (even if you supply complete data), copying, postage, ..., fee to cash your cheque (why do you think Swiss banks do so well ?) - the most expensive part is the certification - we are not talking of a plain photocopy, we are talking about a legally official document. I don't know what you have to pay in USA to get a photocopy certified by city administration or the like - in Switzerland this will usually be in the order of sfr 15 (some $ 10). So I wouldn't complain about this document being too expensive - but discuss whether a genealogist actually needs such an official document ! One could argue, all I want is a plain photocopy - send a few IRCs (which BTW cannot easily be used by an office - so they don't really like them !), and don't fuss around. That would make sense - to me at least - but unfortunately that's not what Civil Registry Offices are being told (by the law) they should do :-(. David had received a (newly typed) "Familienschein" : now this obviously involves a bit more than just photocopying; data have to be typed in (they only started to talk about putting this information on the computer fairly recently) - that's why the fee usually depends on the number of people mentioned : as a Familienschein is issued on a male, it will depend on the number of wifes (and consequently number of parents-in-law, which are also listed if info is available) and children; so there will be a basic fee plus some per-capita-fee. I have received or seen several Familienscheins - and the fees were usually in the range of sfr 30 ... 45 - have never seen sfr 110 ! Unless David's ancestor was married at least five times and had some 30 or more children, I would expect this to be a misunderstanding : as discussed in previous mailings, you now need a cantonal permission to be allowed to ask for a Familienschein - and obviously there is a fee for this permission as well :-(( ! Like almost everything in Switzerland, the cantons decide what the fee for this permission is - they usually are in the sfr 50 ... 100 range. David : did you apply and pay for such a permission prior to asking for the Familienschein ? If not - they likely "applied for permission on your behalf" and then issued the Familienschein - so the sfr 110 could consist of, let's say, sfr 80 for the permission plus sfr 30 for the actual Familienschein. Now this is of interest to you only, if you want an additional Familienschein (from a Civil Registry Office in the same canton): the cantonal permission would still be valid - you'd only have to pay for the additional Familienschein. If we finally consider the fee for the Familienschein : this will again be a legal document, combining a marriage certificate with 10 or more birth certificates plus likely several death certificates - you'll end up with some sfr 2 (about $ 1.50) per documented event - not too bad a deal (if you are actually interested in all these documents ;-)). The upsetting feature is the cantonal permission - both the procedure itself, and the fee - especially if you can use it for just a single Familienschein. I hope this helps to clarify the situation, and send my best regards - Wolf ---------------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf@swissmail.com Reherstr. 19, CH - 9016 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel (home) : +41-71-2885121 Fax : +49-89-2443-91987 Tel (work) : +41-71-4942233 > ---------- > Von: Robert Rothenbuhler[SMTP:piepint@nbtx.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2000 04:25 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Fw: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > David, > > > > I received somewhat the same thing. I > > requested and received one copy of a birth > > notice for one of my ancestors. I sent them > > the three international coupons, but when I > > received the photocopy from them, they > > wanted me to send them a check for 25 > > Schweizer Franken. I think that is a bit > > high for just a photocopy of a document. > > There should have been no research > > as I gave them all the dates and name. > > > > robert rothenbuhler > > piepint@nbtx.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> > > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:00 PM > > Subject: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > > > Hi List, > > > I know that someone out there will be able to help me > > > with this. I received a family certificate > > > (Familienschein) for my ancestor from the > > > Zivilstandsamt in Beringen, Schaffhausen, Switzerland. > > > They tell me "you can borrow all the information you > > > asked for ( as far as they are registered in our > > > records)." > > > They then go on to say that the charge for this family > > > certificate amount to CHF 110.-- Please send a check > > > to Zivilstandsamt etc. etc. etc. > > > Would someone please explain all of this to me. > > > Thanking You in advance, > > > David > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Swiss Resource Site > http://swiss.genealogy.net >

I had the same kind of experience several years ago when I wrote about my ancestors. The way I understand it, these civil servants don't particularly like doing this kind of research. So they charge for an official transcript, which they present in the form of a "Familienschein". What I found to be cheaper is specifying when I write that I want PHOTOCOPIES ONLY! That way they cannot ask such outrageous prices (although it's also happened). The only inconvenience is that you are stuck with deciphering the handwriting. Sam Khalid Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Rothenbuhler To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please David, Yes, that is what it appears to be. I thought 25 was high for what I got, but 110 is really asking too much. robert ----- Original Message ----- From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> To: Robert Rothenbuhler <piepint@nbtx.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > Robert, > I also gave them the names and dates of my > g,g,great-grandparent's birth and death. I also > included my g,great-grandmother's date of birth and > who she married. My g,great-grandmother had two known > siblings that were here in the US also, according to > her newspaper obit. I only asked them how I could find > out about any other possible siblings of my > g,great-grandmother. They sent me a Family Certificate > (Familienschein) with all the childrens names and > dates of birth and death if known. My request went to > Hallau and I received the register from Beringen. > I am still confused about this. Do you believe that > they are asking me for 110 Swiss Francs for this info? > David > > --- Robert Rothenbuhler <piepint@nbtx.com> wrote: > > David, > > > > I received somewhat the same thing. I > > requested and received one copy of a birth > > notice for one of my ancestors. I sent them > > the three international coupons, but when I > > received the photocopy from them, they > > wanted me to send them a check for 25 > > Schweizer Franken. I think that is a bit > > high for just a photocopy of a document. > > There should have been no research > > as I gave them all the dates and name. > > > > robert rothenbuhler > > piepint@nbtx.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> > > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:00 PM > > Subject: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > I know that someone out there will be able to help > > me > > > with this. I received a family certificate > > > (Familienschein) for my ancestor from the > > > Zivilstandsamt in Beringen, Schaffhausen, > > Switzerland. > > > They tell me "you can borrow all the information > > you > > > asked for ( as far as they are registered in our > > > records)." > > > They then go on to say that the charge for this > > family > > > certificate amount to CHF 110.-- Please send a > > check > > > to Zivilstandsamt etc. etc. etc. > > > Would someone please explain all of this to me. > > > Thanking You in advance, > > > David

David, Yes, that is what it appears to be. I thought 25 was high for what I got, but 110 is really asking too much. robert ----- Original Message ----- From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> To: Robert Rothenbuhler <piepint@nbtx.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > Robert, > I also gave them the names and dates of my > g,g,great-grandparent's birth and death. I also > included my g,great-grandmother's date of birth and > who she married. My g,great-grandmother had two known > siblings that were here in the US also, according to > her newspaper obit. I only asked them how I could find > out about any other possible siblings of my > g,great-grandmother. They sent me a Family Certificate > (Familienschein) with all the childrens names and > dates of birth and death if known. My request went to > Hallau and I received the register from Beringen. > I am still confused about this. Do you believe that > they are asking me for 110 Swiss Francs for this info? > David > > --- Robert Rothenbuhler <piepint@nbtx.com> wrote: > > David, > > > > I received somewhat the same thing. I > > requested and received one copy of a birth > > notice for one of my ancestors. I sent them > > the three international coupons, but when I > > received the photocopy from them, they > > wanted me to send them a check for 25 > > Schweizer Franken. I think that is a bit > > high for just a photocopy of a document. > > There should have been no research > > as I gave them all the dates and name. > > > > robert rothenbuhler > > piepint@nbtx.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> > > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:00 PM > > Subject: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > I know that someone out there will be able to help > > me > > > with this. I received a family certificate > > > (Familienschein) for my ancestor from the > > > Zivilstandsamt in Beringen, Schaffhausen, > > Switzerland. > > > They tell me "you can borrow all the information > > you > > > asked for ( as far as they are registered in our > > > records)." > > > They then go on to say that the charge for this > > family > > > certificate amount to CHF 110.-- Please send a > > check > > > to Zivilstandsamt etc. etc. etc. > > > Would someone please explain all of this to me. > > > Thanking You in advance, > > > David > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical > > resources on the > > > Internet: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com >

Ask your question to this historian who lives in Geneva. Be very clear and give the original French if you have it. Tell him I gave you his address. christophe.vuilleumier@bluewin.ch >I would much appreciate some info on the meaning of belonging to this council >of 200, in Geneva. I've consulted several books on the meanings of various >'Civic positions' in Geneva in the past but my mind is still unclear as to >what these councils refer to. Obviously it infers that the holder of this >title had reached a certain position in genevese society to warrant being >elected to this body-but what was it? >Peter > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Jeffry MOORE JEFFRY'S Language School SARL Voie-des-Traz 20, Door 1, E13 Cargo Building 1 Office Complex P.O. BOX 1135 CH-1211 Geneva 5 Airport Téléphone +41 (0)22 920 36 30 FAX +41 (0)22 920 36 31 Mobile +41 (0)79 475 39 85 http://www.jeffry.ch

Jo, Have you tried finding the birthplace of Samuel Muster? Familiennamenbuch der Schweiz lists only three locations where the name held citizenship before 1800 and before the emigration date you give. Canton Aargau Densbüren Canton Bern Hasle bei Burgdorf Lützelflüh My own limited experience indicates that for a marriage of common persons in Switzerland, in order of probability, spouses came from: a) the same village b) a nearby village c) farther away So, if you find the village Samuel Muster was from, you may find the birth record of Susanna Koernslur/Kun___/K___, or you may find birth records for Samuel and Susanna's children which give a clue to where she was from. You should reset your computer's clock. Three messages from you are dated Dec. 31, 1969 at 7:00 P.M. My inbox is sorted in date-time order, so your messages appear at the beginning of my inbox list, before other messages I have not dealt with. The point is that some list members may not notice your messages. Lyle G. Hartman Landenberg, Pennsylvania

If you get a response - please forward it to me, so we can correct it in the database. Wolf Seelentag <wolf@swissmail.com> > ---------- > Von: cpu97[SMTP:cpu97@hughes.net] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2000 08:44 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [SWITZ] "Janna Polsley-Bostami" < jannab@iquest.net > > Dringlichkeit: Hoch > > Greetings Switz-L researchers ; ATTN: Janna Polsley-Bostami > > Sorry to post this on List however trying to contact this individual given > > as a BALTZLI researcher and the e-mail listed is a bouncer.. { Bad = not > good } > see http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ search with BALTZLI > bad e-mail address listed for "Janna Polsley-Bostami" < jannab@iquest.net > > > > Thanking in advance the List with any assistance in this individual > correct e-mail > Cordially, P.WOODWARD <map@hughes.net> for genealogy e-mail Please TKSSS. >

Greetings Switz-L researchers ; ATTN: Janna Polsley-Bostami Sorry to post this on List however trying to contact this individual given as a BALTZLI researcher and the e-mail listed is a bouncer.. { Bad = not good } see http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ search with BALTZLI bad e-mail address listed for "Janna Polsley-Bostami" < jannab@iquest.net > Thanking in advance the List with any assistance in this individual correct e-mail Cordially, P.WOODWARD <map@hughes.net> for genealogy e-mail Please TKSSS.

Hello, I am new to the Switzerland mail list. I know that my Daniel Bairs family was from Switzerland but not where. Now my German friend told me that my Kripliver/Kriplever family might be Swiss-Palatines with the spelling Krippe leber or Krippe liber. I know for sure that my GGGG grandfather was Henry but I have no idea who his wife was unless he married when he arrived in the United States. If anyone knows of these names please contact GFS Nance@aol.com

Dear SSD users: I have connected the surnames Haugendobler & Hugentobler in the SSD database. Please visit: http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ to obtain the data. best wishes, Dave Schmutz SSD admin.

Dear Sharon: There are several places to check and see who is also researching the surnames listed above. Start with http://iseli.simplenet.com/ch-names/ which will allow you to see who is also "interested" and obtain data from SwissGen's Swiss Surname Directory. Look also on SwissGen's webpages: http://swiss.genealogy.net for anyone that has done research on the surnames. Use the 'Full text search' found at: http://swiss.genealogy.net/search-m.htm to search the entire SwissGen website - the search is a FANTASTIC tool. Also check the family pages of SwissGen at: http://swiss.genealogy.net/family-e.htm Not connected with SwissGen, is the Rootsweb Surname List (RSL) at: http://www.rootsweb.com The RSL is found at: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi You may find some data there. best wishes, Dave Schmutz SSD admin. -----Original Message----- From: wilcoxphoto [mailto:wilcoxphoto@dmci.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:29 AM To: Swiss.Genealogy@bigfoot.com Subject: Kauffman and Spahr I am interested in Kauffman and Spahr genealogy. Can you tell me if there are others researching these lines? I am particularly interested in Maria Catrina Kauffman (father Michael, I believe) and Johan George Spahr. thanks Sharon wilcoxphoto@dmci.net -----Original Message----- From: wilcoxphoto [mailto:wilcoxphoto@dmci.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:32 AM To: Swiss.Genealogy@bigfoot.com Subject: HOCHWAERTER / HUTTENMEYER I am searching for any information on the HOCHWAERTER, HOCHWARTER, HOWARTER, HOHWAERTER, and HUTTENMEYER, HEUTTENMEYER, HEUTTENMIER, HUTTENMEYER families. Do you know if anyone is researching these families or if any records are available containing these names. Sharon wilcoxphoto@dmci.net

I would much appreciate some info on the meaning of belonging to this council of 200, in Geneva. I've consulted several books on the meanings of various 'Civic positions' in Geneva in the past but my mind is still unclear as to what these councils refer to. Obviously it infers that the holder of this title had reached a certain position in genevese society to warrant being elected to this body-but what was it? Peter

My grandfather, Hermann Benninger (02/22/1865-12/18/1945)- family was from Embrach. My grandfather and his father were both born in Pest (Hungary). His father was Gottlieb 11/03/1822-11/04/1870). His grandfather was Hans Ulrich Banninger (1788-1868)born in Embrach, greatgrandmother Susanna Hauser (1797-1867) born in Wadenswil. I am attempting to go back a couple more generations and would be interested in contacting anyone related to this family.

> David, > > I received somewhat the same thing. I > requested and received one copy of a birth > notice for one of my ancestors. I sent them > the three international coupons, but when I > received the photocopy from them, they > wanted me to send them a check for 25 > Schweizer Franken. I think that is a bit > high for just a photocopy of a document. > There should have been no research > as I gave them all the dates and name. > > robert rothenbuhler > piepint@nbtx.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: david kester <dck516@yahoo.com> > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:00 PM > Subject: [SWITZ] Some Advice Please > > > > Hi List, > > I know that someone out there will be able to help me > > with this. I received a family certificate > > (Familienschein) for my ancestor from the > > Zivilstandsamt in Beringen, Schaffhausen, Switzerland. > > They tell me "you can borrow all the information you > > asked for ( as far as they are registered in our > > records)." > > They then go on to say that the charge for this family > > certificate amount to CHF 110.-- Please send a check > > to Zivilstandsamt etc. etc. etc. > > Would someone please explain all of this to me. > > Thanking You in advance, > > David > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > >

I recently posted a query about my TOUCHON and GRAU lines from Neuchatel. I have had some very nice people respond. I mentioned that a family PERRET from Switzerland was next door to them on the census for Goshen, Connecticut, 1900. I do not know if there is a relation to the Touchons. Several people have expressed an interest in the PERRET line, so I thought I would post here what was on the census. Remember, this is all I know about this family. Henry H. Perret, born August 1864 in Switzerland Rosa, born 1866 in Switzerland Married 12 years Henry H., son, b. 1893? in Swit. (must be error, as census indicates they moved to USA in 1888.) Ruth, born 1893 in Connecticut Emma, born 1895 " Albert P., born 1896 " George H., born 1898 " Numa? A. , son, b. 1899 " Fred W. b. 1900 " Henry H. is listed as a farmer. It indicates that the parents of both Henry and Rosa were also born in Switzerland. Our family of TOUCHONS is next door. I need to mention, just in case in might help someone, that there is a boarder or roomer listed as well in the TOUCHON household. Edmond L'EPLETTENIER? b. August 1869 in Switzerland, listed as divorced. This is all I know about him. Hope this helps someone. Sydney Cardner (the Sydney is a female name) Florida, USA

Hi List, I know that someone out there will be able to help me with this. I received a family certificate (Familienschein) for my ancestor from the Zivilstandsamt in Beringen, Schaffhausen, Switzerland. They tell me "you can borrow all the information you asked for ( as far as they are registered in our records)." They then go on to say that the charge for this family certificate amount to CHF 110.-- Please send a check to Zivilstandsamt etc. etc. etc. Would someone please explain all of this to me. Thanking You in advance, David __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

In Martigny, on Rue du Simplon, with house number 4, it is one of the last buildings on the left, just before the church. Yard has a metal fence around it and a big tree in the middle, and the building has light blue window shutters. This is "Villa Tissieres". Has anyone seen this building? Thanks, Barb.