I checked my old messages - I show one for the 20th, two for the 18th, one for the 17th. The list has not been as active as usual but that appears to be the only situation.

I haven't received any messages from this list for nearly a week. That seems unusual. Is anyone else having this problem? Thanks. Jo

Recently I requested info from the Swiss archives in Bern concerning the ancestors of Ulrich Reinhard, b. 1704, who came to Phila in 1733. I merely wanted paper confirmation of the info posted on the LDS website (www.familysearch.org Search the Ancestor File of Ulli Reinhard - use this exact spelling). To my surprise, the reply contained a descent that is somewhat different from the one posted on the LDS website. So, if it is at all useful to Reinhard researchers, I am happy to share it. I would like to make another plea for someone to set up and moderate a Reinhard (Reinhardt, Rinehart, Rheinhart, etc) list on Rootsweb so we might have a central place to actively share and exchange information, trace migration patterns, and contact other descendants who might share our particular line. It is a tremendous help to subscribe to such a family list and receive up-to-date postings through e-mail. Sorry to say I have an old computer with a small memory and don't think I could handle the moderator's job. Anyone with comments on any of the above, please direct them to one of the lists where this appears, if possible. Ann McCormack The file follows: ULLI REINHARD - b. 21 Aug 1704, Sumiswald, Switzerland. The following information was received from the Swiss Archives, Bern, Switzerland. Since this information differs from that posted on the LDS website, I do not consider one any more correct than the other, and would be happy to see the differences resolved. CLAUS (NIKLAUS) REINHARD "an der Matten" Probably brother of Andres, b. abt 1555/1562, Joseph, b. abt. 1555/1565, and Ulli, b. abt 1560/1570. b. about 1550/1560 m. Katharina Sparr Children b. Sumiswald ULRICH b. 15 Oct 1581 m. (probably) Barb Grossenbacher Andreas b. 24 Oct 1585 m. (prob) Fronek Ryser ULLI REINHARD b. (prob) Sumiswald 15 Oct 1581, (prob.) son of Claus m. Barbara Grossenbacher Children b. Sumiswald Madlena b. 7 Jan 1610 PETER b. 7 July 1611 m. Elsi Siegenthaler PETER REINHARD b. (prob.) 7 July 1611, (prob.) son of Ulli m. Elsi Siegenthaler (1) m. Anna Loosli (2) prob. 16 Oct 1662 Children of (1) b. Sumiswald Hans, Anna, ULLI, Niklaus, Barbli, Catherine, Peter, Elsbeth ULLI REINHARD b. Sumiswald 24 Jan 1636, (prob.) son of Peter m. Babi Mosimann 17 Aug 1665, Sumiswald Children b. Sumiswald Verena, Elsi, Hans, PETER, Eva, Lucia, Ulli, Jakob PETER REINHARD b. Sumiswald (prob.) 26 Sept 1672, (prob.) son of Ulli m. Margreth Kupperschmid 17 Aug 1702, Sumiswald Children b. Sumiswald ULLI b. 21 Aug 1704 Peter b. 3 July 1707 END

Hello: We are interested in the CUENI family of Roeschenz, and the Laufenthal area in general. We have been able to get back to the early 1700s. But, beyond that lurks our brick wall. With a name as rare as CUENI, and its variants, from a town of about 1000 in the 18th century it is hard to believe that the two or three CUENI families are not related. We have checked the Familiennamenbuch, Billeters, and Von Moos, and others. Does anyone out there have any clues, guidance, advice, or facts about CUENI that we could pursue ? We would appreciate any comments. Thank you, Mark and Hwaji. End Mark and Hwaji Cueni mnhcueni@pahrump.com

Anyone with this HALTER line? Did any of these Halters go to France or Germany? Francine Conn Halter === Descendants of Uli Halter 1 Uli Halter b: Abt. 1576 in Switzerland +Margaretha Seitz/Sitz b: Abt. 1580 in Switzerland ..... 2 Margaretha Halter b: 1602 ..... 2 Verena Halter b: 1604 ..... 2 Barbara Halter b: August 1606 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... 2 Hans Jackob Halter b: July 1608 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerlan d d: September 22, 1669 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... +Barbara Nuesch b: 1610 d: 1704 ..... *2nd Wife of Hans Jackob Halter: ..... +Ursula Zellweger b: 1610 m: 1630 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... 2 Othmar Halter b: 1610 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland d: June 28, 1687 ......... +Ursula Kobelt b: 1612 m: 1631 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... 2 Margaretha Halter b: 1612 ..... 2 Anna Halter b: 1614 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland d: Bef. 1618 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... 2 Uli Halter b: 1615 ..... 2 Uli Halter b: 1617 ..... 2 Anna Halter b: 1618 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... 2 David Halter b: 1622 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland ..... 2 Amalia Halter b: September 1624 in Balgach, St. Gallen, Switzerland

We have an Anna Margaretha MEYER/MEIER (1708-c.1747) whose place of origin is hard to decipher. We now think it might be Seeb, a place I found listed in "Tracing Your Swiss Roots" for Canton Zürich. Does anyone know its location, especially its gemeinde? or have ideas for how to find out? Thanks much! Jean Hoffman djhoff@ix.netcom.com

Re: my ggrandparents (Swiss citizens) being married in Bremen in 1864: I wanted to ask also about the Bremen Personenstandsregister--according to one record I have, this agency's "registers for the city and the suburbs are complete from 1811-75." Would this be the appropriate agency to write for a search of this possible marriage record? Thanks again. Jo

My Muster/Kunzler(Koernsler)ggrandparents, from Basel (we think), were, according to a newspaper article about them, married "right before" they sailed from Bremen for New York in 1864. Would either a church or the civil authorities in Bremen have married them--if they were Swiss citizens? Someone has suggested that it would have been very difficult for them to be married in Bremen--and that, perhaps, they were married in Switzerland and left immediately for Bremen. But if they were married in Bremen, would there be a civil record? Thanks for any help. Jo

Please excuse my multiple postings on this subject. My provider's response was very slow. It appeared the message was not being sent, so I hit "cancel", apparently too late to cancel. Lyle G. Hartman landenberg, Pennsylvania

On 17 Feb 2000 Janice Mullally <longstem5@webtv.net> wrote > I am looking for Schild Surname originally from Bern in 1700s. Janice, I quote from "Descendants of Jakob Schild of Brienz", by Anita Lee Palmquist and Lyle G. Hartman, Landenberg: A&L Genealogical Publishers, 1998. "Although the surname Schild is very common in the Brienz area, where there are hundreds of Schilds, it was not that common before 1800 in the rest of Switzerland. The three-volume "Familienbuch der Schweiz" or the English translation, "Swiss Surnames", lists all Swiss surnames (about 48,500) that existed in 1962, where they held citizenship, when citizenship began at each location, and, sometimes, where they moved from when citizenship was established at a new location. If citizenship was held before 1800, it is simply indicated by an "a" following the location. The surname Schild is listed for 35 locations. However, at only nine locations was citizenship held before 1800. Eight of the nine locations are in Canton Bern: Brienz, Brienzwiler, Guttanen, Hasliberg, Hofstetten bei Brienz, Meiringen, Schattenhalb, and Schwanden bei Brienz. These towns are all clustered aroung the eastern end of Lake Brienz. Guttanen, the most remote, is only 15 miles straight line distance from Brienz. The map on the following page shows the eight locations. The only other entry with citizenship before 1800 is Grenchen in Canton Solothurn. Schild citizenship was established in the 1800s at four locations. Citizenship was established at the other 22 locations in the 1900s." I have not checked to determine what church served Guttanen, but two churches served the other seven locations in Canton Bern. The Protestant Reformed church at Meiringen also served Hasliberg (now reachable by cable car from Meiringen) and Schattenhalb (the shady half) directly across the Aare River from Meiringen. The Protestant Reformed Church at Brienz also served Brienzwiler (usually "Wiler" or Wÿler in the church books), Hofstetten, and Schwanden. There are several of us researching the surname Schild from the Brienz area. My own ancestors began in Brienz but moved citizenship to Schwanden in November, 1692. The majority of the Schilds in the 1798 census of Canton Bern were at Brienz and the associated towns served by the Protestant Reformed Church of Brienz. There was not that much intermarriage between residents of Brienz and those from Meiringen. I think you can count on two things: 1) There were so many Schilds concentrated in this area that nobody is going to hand you your complete Schild genealogy. 2) If your ancestor was from Canton Bern, then you have only three sets of churchbooks to look at. Based on a count of the number of Schilds, search first in the Brienz church records, then Meiringen, then Guttanen. >From the current phone book, I estimate that 25% of the residents of Brienziler have the surname Schild. It is kind of like "Smith" in the U.S. If you can provide more details to the group about your Schilds, you will increase the chances you will connect with one of us researching the surname Schild. You must know more than you said in your posting. I think we have communicated on one of the boards? The second Schild reunion in modern memory for my branch is scheduled for 2001 in Hokah, Minnesota. We held the first in 1999. Some of my relatives from Brienz will represent the Swiss Schilds at the next one. Good luck in your research. Lyle G. Hartman Landenberg, Pennsylvania

On 17 Feb 2000 Janice Mullally <longstem5@webtv.net> wrote > I am looking for Schild Surname originally from Bern in 1700s. Janice, I quote from "Descendants of Jakob Schild of Brienz", by Anita Lee Palmquist and Lyle G. Hartman, Landenberg: A&L Genealogical Publishers, 1998. "Although the surname Schild is very common in the Brienz area, where there are hundreds of Schilds, it was not that common before 1800 in the rest of Switzerland. The three-volume "Familienbuch der Schweiz" or the English translation, "Swiss Surnames", lists all Swiss surnames (about 48,500) that existed in 1962, where they held citizenship, when citizenship began at each location, and, sometimes, where they moved from when citizenship was established at a new location. If citizenship was held before 1800, it is simply indicated by an "a" following the location. The surname Schild is listed for 35 locations. However, at only nine locations was citizenship held before 1800. Eight of the nine locations are in Canton Bern: Brienz, Brienzwiler, Guttanen, Hasliberg, Hofstetten bei Brienz, Meiringen, Schattenhalb, and Schwanden bei Brienz. These towns are all clustered aroung the eastern end of Lake Brienz. Guttanen, the most remote, is only 15 miles straight line distance from Brienz. The map on the following page shows the eight locations. The only other entry with citizenship before 1800 is Grenchen in Canton Solothurn. Schild citizenship was established in the 1800s at four locations. Citizenship was established at the other 22 locations in the 1900s." I have not checked to determine what church served Guttanen, but two churches served the other seven locations in Canton Bern. The Protestant Reformed church at Meiringen also served Hasliberg (now reachable by cable car from Meiringen) and Schattenhalb (the shady half) directly across the Aare River from Meiringen. The Protestant Reformed Church at Brienz also served Brienzwiler (usually "Wiler" or Wÿler in the church books), Hofstetten, and Schwanden. There are several of us researching the surname Schild from the Brienz area. My own ancestors began in Brienz but moved citizenship to Schwanden in November, 1692. The majority of the Schilds in the 1798 census of Canton Bern were at Brienz and the associated towns served by the Protestant Reformed Church of Brienz. There was not that much intermarriage between residents of Brienz and those from Meiringen. I think you can count on two things: 1) There were so many Schilds concentrated in this area that nobody is going to hand you your complete Schild genealogy. 2) If your ancestor was from Canton Bern, then you have only three sets of churchbooks to look at. Based on a count of the number of Schilds, search first in the Brienz church records, then Meiringen, then Guttanen. >From the current phone book, I estimate that 25% of the residents of Brienziler have the surname Schild. It is kind of like "Smith" in the U.S. If you can provide more details to the group about your Schilds, you will increase the chances you will connect with one of us researching the surname Schild. You must know more than you said in your posting. I think we have communicated on one of the boards? The second Schild reunion in modern memory for my branch is scheduled for 2001 in Hokah, Minnesota. We held the first in 1999. Some of my relatives from Brienz will represent the Swiss Schilds at the next one. Good luck in your research. Lyle G. Hartman Landenberg, Pennsylvania

I am looking for Schild Surname originally from Bern in 1700s.

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Have you checked the Bern records? The Manuel family is listed as being in Bern from before 1460. Joe Wolfe. This is from "Swiss Surnames" In Mario Van Moos "Bibliography of Swiss Surnames" is the following on MANUEL> 1) Stammbaum der Familie MNAUEL von Bern 1674-1706. (o.O.u.J. - 1 Blatt (im Schweizerischen Landesmusuem) 2) Van der Sigtenhorste,KI.: Twee takken van het Zwitserse Raadsherengeslacht MANUEL (von Gern) In: Gens. Nostra 13,Amsterdam 1958 - p. 254-263 3) Roth,Alfred: Der Rotengrat im Eggiwyl. Die Alp der Familie MANUEL (von Bern). In: Berner Zeitschrift fur Geschichte und Heimatkunde 26,1964. s. 49-74 Hope this will be of help to you. Joe Wolfe On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:12:35 EST PDeloriol@aol.com writes: > I'm looking for the ascendants of dorothea von Luternau , born 1566 > married > 1) Jean rodolphe MANUEL 1566-1598, a member of the sovereign council > of > Berne, son of Johann rudolf , the Artist and Ursula STURLER. > Peter de Loriol > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? > mail to Switzerland-L-request@rootsweb.com > subject line: unsubscribe > nothing in message >

I'm looking for the ascendants of dorothea von Luternau , born 1566 married 1) Jean rodolphe MANUEL 1566-1598, a member of the sovereign council of Berne, son of Johann rudolf , the Artist and Ursula STURLER. Peter de Loriol

Dear Linda, in the meantime I have received some information from an experienced researcher of this name (Dr. Valentin Theus, doesn't have e-mail) - see below : > ---------- > Von: Linda[SMTP:Bock@nebi.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Februar 2000 04:48 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [SWITZ] Theiler-Tyler > ........ > THEUS - Domat Ems, Chur, Graubunden, Switzerland. Departed Rotterdam > with Capt. Percy arrived Charles Town, South Carolina were Christian Theus > was ordained Minister of the Gospel. He had completed his studies at the > Reformed Theological Seminary prior to leaving Switzerland. Rev. Theus > was > the first minister and school teacher in Saxe Gotha (SC) Township in 1739. > His brother, Jeremiah Theus, was a famous portrait painter in Charles > Town. > * On 20 MaR 1736 Orangeburgh(SC) town lot 264 and 250 acres granted. > To avoid further misunderstandings : "Domat Ems, Chur, Graubuenden" is some sort of contradiction in itself - both Domat Ems and Chur are independent communities in Canton Graubuenden (Grisons), with Chur being the capital. To start with, therefore "Familiennamenbuch der Schweiz" http://swiss.genealogy.net/famnam-m.htm should be consulted. If you don't have easy access to this source, check the "Swiss Surname Directory" http://swiss.genealogy.net/surnam-m.htm (please, read the description, and then follow the link to the query page) where you'll also find other basic information on this name, plus a list of other people interested in the same name (with e-mail addresses). Now - Familiennamenbuch lists Theus citizenships prior to 1800 in only two locations : Domat Ems and Felsberg (neighbouring villages in Graubuenden); there are today also Theus of Chur - but this line was granted Chur citizenship as late as 1922 - of no interest to you. So a citizenship at Domat Ems seems plausible at first sight. Puzzling, however, is the fact that Domat Ems was a purely catholic parish during the 18th century - whilst Felsberg was protestant. Two explanations come to mind : either Domat Ems is wrong (and you would better look in Felsberg), or Christian Theus was converted, attended the Reformed Theological Seminar - and emigrated because he couldn't really return to his home town Domat Ems (??). Dr. Theus had done extensive research in Domat Ems back to mid-18th century - a bit late for your Christian - but he didn't find any Christian or Jeremiah there; whilst favourite names may have changed over the decades, this may also be an indication that these two names were at least not common in Domat Ems. Dr. Theus has not researched Felsberg. Felsberg church records have been filmed - unfortunately they only date back to 1711 (at least on film - don't know whether older records exist, and have not been filmed). Domat Ems church records seem not to have been filmed. This sort of info you find most easily (when you know the canton you are looking for) by starting from http://swiss.genealogy.net/ldsloc-m.htm I hope this gets you started, and send my best regards - Wolf ---------------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf@swissmail.com Reherstr. 19, CH - 9016 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel (home) : +41-71-2885121 Fax : +49-89-2443-91987 Tel (work) : +41-71-4942233

Great picture if anyone can identify with this town. c. 1897 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=259743345 Barb in Waterloo, IL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/7577/index.html SURNAMES: Beedle, Bevirt, Bilderback, Bourgeois, Cain, Crawford, Clendenin, Clinton, Farris, Fassnacht, Feig, Flannery, Hanna, Ingram, Klute, Lemen, Mcgowan, Metzger, Muench, Ogle, Pausch, Risinger, Schmitt, Sparks, Trendle, Tissier, Wastfield, Wirth, Wise, Yaker.

Hello: Does anyone have an idea of what the name of this town could be? I am researching in the Canton of Luzern. I have looked at several baptismals and this is as near as I can make out the spelling but I can't find it on the town list for Switzerland. Thank you. Margaret

Does anyone on this list know of a really good course for learning German? I knew a bit of the language as a young girl but have forgotten most of it. Also, many many thanks to all who have replied privately to my quest for the Knechtle family....I am just so very grateful. Betty Brackett

Listers, Trying to type umlauts and other special characters can be frustrating. The following is the method I use. Using the Character Map on an IBM compatible PC (use FIND if necessary), I wrote down the keystrokes required on a 3x5 card. You may wish to copy the following: While holding down the ALT Key, type the 4 digit number using the keypad on the right side of the keyboard. Example: ALT+0228 = ä (5 keystrokes) German: Alt+0228 = ä Alt=0235 = ë Alt+0246 = ö Alt+0252 = ü French: Alt+0224 =à Alt+0225 = á Alt+0232 = è Alt+0233 = é Alt+0226 =â Alt+0234 = ê Alt+0231 = ç Use a standard Font such as Courier or Roman (Wingdings won't work) and set the size to about 14 (avoids squinting). If you want to check the rest, using the Alt key start at 0196 (Ä) and continue until you reach 0252. Enjoy, Anton "Tony" Louisiana