Can someone tell me why I run into different coat of arms for my family research in Switz. ? Is it that each area has it's own ? Harold

Hi folks, Just re-subscribed after a number of months away...with some help from Outriggger, I broke through my brick wall! (Outriggger, if you're out there...THANKS!!) Now I am inundated with information that will take me a while to wade through (rather happily, too!) At any rate, I've been finding a regular rogues' gallery...here's the story, convolutions and all. The ancestor who emigrated to the US left behind a wife and 4 children. He was faithfully sending back money for the family for a time. In the meantime, he met and supposedly married the woman we've all believed to be great-great grandma and proceeded to have children with her. Two years after his first American child was born, his Swiss wife gives birth to another child. Now this is where it gets interesting...the person who's the unofficial genealogist for the village they lived in says that according to the christening record, the priest listed the ancestor's *father* as the father of this baby. My question is this: is it possible that ancestor's father was named as the FOB because ancestor had deserted the family? I am not going to be judgmental, I just would like to know if this was a practice to legitimize children. Any thoughts? Elisabeth ö¿ö

Hi Joan, You should first determine from what localities WECHTER/WACHTER held citizenship in Switzerland from either a check of the "Familiennamenbuch der Schweiz" or by submitting a request at: http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/surnam-m.htm on QUERY PAGE. Offhand, I would suspect that your "Laugerville" is actually Lauperswil in the Signau district of Canton Bern. If you find that WECHTER/WACHTER held citizenship at Lauperswil, the church records from there have been microfilmed, and can be ordered through a Family History Center, if you have access to one. It should be possible to trace the ancestry of your family back through those records. I also recognize LIECHTI as a name occurring in the Signau area, and you can determine exactly which communites as above. NUSSBAUM(ER) I believe is a fairly common name to many areas in Switzerland, and also occurs in the Signau area. I not sure GYGER occurs in the Signau area, but you can determine that as above. I do know that it occurs a little west of there in the area south of Bern. It is likely that all of these families were from the same general area. If you start with your last known Swiss ancestor, and work back through the church records, they will usually identify the location of the earlier generations, either in the marriage/baptismal records, or in circumstantial evidence in noting where the sponsors at baptism were from. The church records for most Canton Bern communities are available on microfilm, that you can search most other locations learned also. Rick Saunders http://pweb.netcom.com/~fzsaund/0.html

I finally had a chance to view the arms on http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/members/schaern1.htm The object depicted is a key. I don't know how a key would connect with a smith's hammer, but keys are often used to represent civic positions like a mayor. I enjoy heraldry and will try to help help anyone with questions about what is on a coat of arms. <snip> The coat of arms of the Schawalder of Diepoldsau/Schmitter and Widnau is based on a seal used by Johannes Schawalder during 1730...39 : as Johannes Schawalder was a smith, this will be smith's tools - a hammer and another tool we are not quite sure about. Take a look at : http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/members/schaern1.htm The Diepoldsau line uses yellow on blue, the Widnau line black on yellow. Compare the design with the seal also depicted on that page. The coat of arms of the St.Gallen line (originally from Schmitter) is much more recent : not dating back to 1796, as one may assume - this is the year of birth of Hans Jakob Schawalder, the oldest proven ancestor of the St.Gallen line. Best regards - Wolf <snip> Trudy mailto:VikingRose@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

HI LISTERS! CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE IN SWITZERLAND THE CITY AFFOLTERN/EMMENTAL IS LOCATED. I AM TRYING TO FIND AN ANCESTOR WHO WAS A LUTHERAN PFARRER THERE SOMETIME IN THE 1600'S. BEST REGARDS FROM FLORIDA. aka SAM SPADE

Hi, I am helping a friend get started on her family. The present surname is Bufter, said to be from the Paltinate area. I am sure this is not the "correct" old spelling. Can anyone help with this one. Thanks so much. Patricia in Maryland

Hi, Re Genetelli.Domenico Genetelli came to Australia 1854 on the ship Lucie from Preonzo, Ticino.He died Victoria 1869.The book "Settlement of Swiss, Ticino Immigrants in Australia" is written by J.Gentilli. He can be reached .The Secretary, Dept of Geography,The University of Western Australia, Nedlands, Western Australia 6009. Hope this helps. Dell -----Original Message----- From: Terri Long <tglong98@yahoo.com> To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:22 AM Subject: [SWITZ] Genetelli and Ottine, Canton Ticino >Any information on the Genetelli or Ottine families >from Lugano, Preonze or Canton Ticino or if you know >of any other sources I could check for info on the >families or the area I'd appreciate it. > >Terri Genetelli Long >Cape Charles, Virginia >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hi List subscribers, I am new to the list and I hope my first query is not out of order. While I have nothing documented as yet, one branch of our family reports our earliest known ancestor, Johann Drum was born c. 1725 in Switzerland. Do any of you have any knowledge of the Drum/Drumm name in Switzerland in the past? Another general question, if you please. Was there a particular port of departure by those leaving Switzerland for America in the early to mid 1700's? Betty

Hi. I'm new on the list and am attempting to find where in Switzerland my ancestors came from and from which port they left to come to America. I know that my gr. grandfather, Frederick Wechter (Wachter) was born in Laugerville, Canton Berne, SW on 17 Oct 1836. His wife was Elizabeth Nussbaum (Neusbaum, Nussbaumer) who was born on 30 Jul 1843 in Wayne Co., OH but whose family originated somewhere in SW. Her father was Jakob Nussbaumer. I'm also looking for gg grandparents Peter Wachter and Maria Zumback; dates of birth unknown in SW. Other family names from SW are Elizabeth Liechti (dob 25 Nov 1814) whose father was Christian Liechti and mother was Barbara Moser. Also have ggg grandparents with names of Urs Nussbaumer and Katharina Gyger. Can someone tell me how I might find where in SW these families came from and also where to find the ports from which Frederick Wechter and the Nussbaumer families left to come to America? I would really appreciate any help you might be able to give. Thanks. Joan DeCamara Vancouver, WA

Robbie ; you don;t say where in Switzerland your KUHN ancestors came from. I will try to give you all the sites befdore 1800 from Swiss Surnames. Canton Aargau - Birmensteorf AG - (a) from before 1800 Bu(e)nzen (a Dottikon (a) Laufenburg (a) Ma(e)genwil (a) Oberkulm (a) Schlossrued (a) Suhr (a) Waltenschwil (a) Wohlen (AG (a) Canton Bern - Bru(e)ttelen (a) Frauenkappelen (a) Mu(e)singen (a) Orpund (a) CAnton Geneve - Geneve - (a) (b) from 1800 to about 1850 Canton Jura - Porrentruy )(a) Canton St Gallen - Dagersheim (a) Jonschwil (a) Kappel (Toggenburg) (a) Krummenau (a) Lu(e)tisburg (a) Mogelsberg (a) Mosnang (a) Nesslau (a) Oberuzwil (a) Rheineck (a) Thal (a) Wildhaus (a) Canton Solothurn - Dornach (a) Kestenholz (a) Scho(e)nwerd (a) CAnton Thurgau - Birwinken (a) Gu(e)ndelhart-Horhausen (a) Heldswil (a) Langrickenbach (a) Canton Valais - Massongex ;(a) Canton Zurich - Dielsdorf (a) Dietikon - (b) from Illnau ZH Dietlikon (a) Embrach (a) Illnau 9a) Lindau (a) Neftenbach (a) Nurensdorf (a) - from Embrach,Zu Pfa(e)ffikon (a) Uster (a) Volketswil (a) Wallisellen (a) Winterthur (b) from 1800 to about 1850 Zell (a) In Mario van Moos -Bibliography of Swiss Genealogies is the following entry" Pryor,Gwendolin: The Swiss Connection - Hans Caspar KUHN 91713-17920 von Zurich /Schwamendingen, Dietlikon/Rieden) of South Carolina and his descendants with related families of Kinsler, Nettles and Wyrick. Baltimore,1991 463 p. genealogies (in der SGFF-Bibliothek). I muste assume that since you give his birthdate this is the man you are searching for. If so you can check with the Family History Center and check the Microfilm records for Dietlikon, Canton Zurich which I am sure have been filmed. Hope this will be of help to you in your search. On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:41:00 EST Duroblan@aol.com writes: > Hello, > I am new to the list. > Looking for Hans Casper Kuhn 1713 and family. > My gggggrand father was John Lewis Coon (Kuhn) b.1757 married Mary > Fannon. > by Margaret Coon b. Apr. 30,1792 married Austin Coates b. 1788 > > Hope to find some cousins > Robbie Landry > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Swiss Resource Site > http://swiss.genealogy.net >

As far as I know, there are no other MOSERs in the USA to which I may be related other than a brother in Ohio and his family. There is always the possibility that some family member came here earlier. I have no information on any siblings further back from my grandparents. Alex Moser ajmoser@azwest.net

Alex Moser wrote: > Hello Listers: > I've been watching the daily posts for some time now and finally decided to > see if > there was anyone that has any contact or information about my MOSER line. I > am > the first-born in the USA. The following brief summary shows how much I am > missing, > especially from the wives. Also, I only have information about siblings > starting with my > grandparents (both sides). > > *HANS MOSER (1430-1504): *ANTON MOSER (1485-1530): *ANTON MOSER > (1527-1592) married ANNA EUGSTER: *MICHAEL MOSER (1584-1629) in 1609 > married ANNA BROGER des PLAY (also died 1629): *ANTON MOSER (1629-1693) > on 1 Jan.1650 married MARIA NEFF des HANS (died 1685): *ANTON JOSEF > MOSER (1662-1714) on 29 Mar.1693 married MAGDALENA JÄGER (died 1739): > *ANTON JOSEF MICHAEL MOSER (1697-1771) on 11 Nov.1721 married MARIA > ELISABETHA SUTTER/SUTER/SUTHER (died 1754): *JOHANN BAPTIST ANTON > MOSER (1725-1800) on 22 Apr.1765 married MARIA MAGDALENA PETERER > (died 1783): JOHANN BAPTIST ANTON MOSER (1772-1828) on 12 May 1793 > married MARIA MAGDALENA BRÜHLMANN (died 1834): *JOHANN BAPTIST > MOSER (1798-1842) on 22 Apr.1822 married ANNA MARIA ELISABETHA BROGER > (died 1869): *JOHANN BAPTIST MOSER (1822-1905) on 24 May 1852 married > FRANZISKA JOSEFA FÄSSLER (died ?): JOSEF ANTON MOSER (my grand- > father: 1867-1954) on 27 Sep.1892 married MARIA HUBER (1870-1910): > JOSEF ERNST MOSER (my father: 1894-1990) on 3 Jan.1924 married EMMA GLATZ > (my mother: 1894-1944) - they came to the USA in 1927. > * - was born and/or raised and worked in or near Rinkenbach, now > Appenzell-Innerrhoden. > > Any leads or contacts in Appenzell would be greatly appreciated. > > Alex Moser ajmoser@azwest.net Hi Alex, I do have Moser ancestors, beginning with my ggggrandmother, AÒa Catharine Moser Aggeler born in Wiesstannen, St. Gallen. I have not yet established her ancestry , though I do have several possibilities. It's just a matter of time. I hope to establish the pedigree back to the 1600's . To date I have 27 group sheets and my next step is to determine her parents and background. I haven't been able to find her baptismal entry. I do not know if this could be of help, but if you are curious please get in touch. Lynn Lautze Fonseca Surnames: Aggeler, Moser, Pfiffner, Lautze, Schaefers, Rinderer, Hug > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Any information on the Genetelli or Ottine families from Lugano, Preonze or Canton Ticino or if you know of any other sources I could check for info on the families or the area I'd appreciate it. Terri Genetelli Long Cape Charles, Virginia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

Cindy: Swiss surnames has the family of BUHLER in Hombrechtikon, Canton Zurich from before 1800. Hombrechtikon is in the south of Zurich Canteon not too far from the Zurich Sea. In Mario Van Moos "Bibliography of Swiss Genealogies" there is the following listing" Weisbrod-Buhler, Marion: Silberne Schweningen. Aufzeichnungen zur Familien- geschichte der Waldbuhler (= BUHLER von Hombrecktikon und Henau). Stafa,1957. 291 S. Ahnentafel (in dere Schweizereischen Landesbibliothek). Alther, Ernste Walter: Die Familie BUHLER (von Hombrechtikon ) under deren Zweig in Uzwil. Flawil. 1978. (in der SGFF-Bibliothek). Also Julius Billeter has 'BUHLER" in his Notes. But not sure from what area. Buhler is quite a common name in Switzerland. Hope this will be of help to you in your research. Be sure to check with the Family History Center . They have microfilm of most of the church records of Zurich , along with census records and household registers for many of the towns. Joe Wolfe On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:23:56 EST Cbyvbs@aol.com writes: > Dear List members: > > I am looking for information on my ancestors from Hombrechtikon, > Canton of > Zuerick, Switzerland. My great grandfather, HENRY ANTONE BUHLER, > born 28 > August 1848, supposedly came to America in 1867, with his parents, > HANS > HEINRICH BUEHLER and ANNA PFUNDER BUEHLER. There may have been two > other > children, besides HENRY traveling with this family (one male and one > female). > > > Does anyone out there have information on this family? Can anyone > tell me > exactly where Hombrechtikon, Canton of Zuerick is in Switzerland? > > Family rumor has it, that the family grew grapes there? Is that > likely? > > Any information on this family would be most appreciated. > > Thanks, > Cindy > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Resource Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw >

Hello Listers: I've been watching the daily posts for some time now and finally decided to see if there was anyone that has any contact or information about my MOSER line. I am the first-born in the USA. The following brief summary shows how much I am missing, especially from the wives. Also, I only have information about siblings starting with my grandparents (both sides). *HANS MOSER (1430-1504): *ANTON MOSER (1485-1530): *ANTON MOSER (1527-1592) married ANNA EUGSTER: *MICHAEL MOSER (1584-1629) in 1609 married ANNA BROGER des PLAY (also died 1629): *ANTON MOSER (1629-1693) on 1 Jan.1650 married MARIA NEFF des HANS (died 1685): *ANTON JOSEF MOSER (1662-1714) on 29 Mar.1693 married MAGDALENA JÄGER (died 1739): *ANTON JOSEF MICHAEL MOSER (1697-1771) on 11 Nov.1721 married MARIA ELISABETHA SUTTER/SUTER/SUTHER (died 1754): *JOHANN BAPTIST ANTON MOSER (1725-1800) on 22 Apr.1765 married MARIA MAGDALENA PETERER (died 1783): JOHANN BAPTIST ANTON MOSER (1772-1828) on 12 May 1793 married MARIA MAGDALENA BRÜHLMANN (died 1834): *JOHANN BAPTIST MOSER (1798-1842) on 22 Apr.1822 married ANNA MARIA ELISABETHA BROGER (died 1869): *JOHANN BAPTIST MOSER (1822-1905) on 24 May 1852 married FRANZISKA JOSEFA FÄSSLER (died ?): JOSEF ANTON MOSER (my grand- father: 1867-1954) on 27 Sep.1892 married MARIA HUBER (1870-1910): JOSEF ERNST MOSER (my father: 1894-1990) on 3 Jan.1924 married EMMA GLATZ (my mother: 1894-1944) - they came to the USA in 1927. * - was born and/or raised and worked in or near Rinkenbach, now Appenzell-Innerrhoden. Any leads or contacts in Appenzell would be greatly appreciated. Alex Moser ajmoser@azwest.net

Hello: no messages here either?? Mabel

Hello, I am new to the list. Looking for Hans Casper Kuhn 1713 and family. My gggggrand father was John Lewis Coon (Kuhn) b.1757 married Mary Fannon. by Margaret Coon b. Apr. 30,1792 married Austin Coates b. 1788 Hope to find some cousins Robbie Landry

I have received none either. Carolyn > I haven't received any messages from this list for nearly a week. > That seems unusual. Is anyone else having this problem? > > Thanks. > > Jo > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Resource Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw

Worked OK here in Calif. at least for me. Bill

Dear List members: I am looking for information on my ancestors from Hombrechtikon, Canton of Zuerick, Switzerland. My great grandfather, HENRY ANTONE BUHLER, born 28 August 1848, supposedly came to America in 1867, with his parents, HANS HEINRICH BUEHLER and ANNA PFUNDER BUEHLER. There may have been two other children, besides HENRY traveling with this family (one male and one female). Does anyone out there have information on this family? Can anyone tell me exactly where Hombrechtikon, Canton of Zuerick is in Switzerland? Family rumor has it, that the family grew grapes there? Is that likely? Any information on this family would be most appreciated. Thanks, Cindy