Dear List: Can anyone tell me if the surname SPRING originates in England, Germany or Switzerland? Thanks for any responses. Nancy

I am trying to find the ship my gggrandpa Heinrich John Bollinger imagrated to America on. He imagrated to Missiouri. Can any one help me on ship finding the ship? He immagrated in 1849. He was born 1828 in Switzerland. Thank You Clifford Bollinger

[not responsible for any text above this line] On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Vicki Schneider <schneidv@griffon.mwsc.edu>: > I am trying to locate the ship SS Mulhouse. This is suppose to be the ship > my husband's ancestors came to the US on from Switzerland. I have not been > successful in locating it. > > This ship departed from La Havre, France and arrived in New Orleans either > in 1850 or 1854. > > I would like to find information on this ship, the passenger list and > perhaps a picture of the ship. The MULHOUSE was not a steamship but a sailing ship. I have references to several voyages of the MULHOUSE between between Le Havre and New Orleans in the early 1850's. What are the names of your husband's ancestors who arrived on the MULHOUSE, and in what year was each of them born? Michael Palmer -- Michael Palmer Claremont, California mpalmer@netcom.com [not responsible for any text below this line]

Barbara Hanville replied publicly to Pete Mattli's private query to Barbara Hanville about the two "Germans to America" CD-ROMs. Pete included the query > > Does the book have something that the CD-ROM's don't? > > Pete One thing lost from the book is the original order of the passenger list. This is important, so one may want to find the ancestors in the CD-ROM, then look at the appropriate volume of the book, which preserves the list ordering, then, lastly, order the microfilm which contains the actual passenger list. Families from the same area, often related by marriage, often travelled together. Those families often appear sequentially in the ships list. A second problem is that when we scan a printed index, we easily spot spellings similar to the spelling we are looking for. The CD-ROM search has no Soundex capability that I could find. So, one must search sequentially for all plausible spellings of a name, and even then, one may miss the garbled name which was incorrectly read by the transcribers. Somebody goofed when the CDs were created. There are many double entries for individuals, one with the manifest number and one without. It appears that they made a bad data conversion run and then added to it the corrected run. There are many incorrect spellings (incorrect reading of the original list) in GTA, so it is always important to get the original handwritten list. The original list also includes information about deaths during the voyage, which usually do not appear in GTA. Microfilms of the original lists can be obtained from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) or the LDS. NARA information can be viewed at http://www.nara.gov/research The LDS microfilms are associated with the port of entry placename and can be found by a placename search within the LDS catalog at http://www.familysearch.org/ The expert Michael Palmer wrote an extensive review of GTA in 1990 after the first nine volumes appeared. It can be viewed at http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/gta.revu.html Like many other sources, GTA cannot be viewed as the last word, but it should always be checked when one is looking for the ship an ancestor travelled on. Michael Palmer mentions that only ships with an estimated 80% or greater Germanic (includes Switzerland) population were included. However, it is a great resource, and the CD-ROMs make it possible to quickly scan the whole set of volumes, a laborious task if one is going through the indices of the individual volumes. Lyle G. Hartman Landenberg, Pennsylvania

----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin & Barbara Hanville <hanville@vivid.net> To: Richard Charles <richardcharles8@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > I could not find John George, but I did locate your Heck family: > > Jacob Heck, Age 50 > Occupation: Smith > Arrived : October 4, 1882 > Final Destination: Pennsylvania > Ship: Pereire > Manifest ID#: 80217 > Port of Embarkation: Havre > > Elise Heck, Age 51 > Christophe Heck, Age 11 > > Hope this helps - Barbara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Charles <richardcharles8@hotmail.com> > To: <hanville@vivid.net> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > > > Would you by any chance have information on John George born 25 February > > 1857 & Christopher Heck born to Jacob Heck & Ann Elizabeth Schaub & left > > Basel for USA, possibly Philadelphia, declared citizenship intent in April > > 1885? Have exhausted all the online manifests earlier posted here, without > > finding them. Thank you! > > > > >From: "Kevin & Barbara Hanville" <hanville@vivid.net> > > >To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:24:42 -0500 > > > > > >I located this as well in Germans to America. It showed the following: > > > > > >Samuel Weber > > >Age: 44 > > >Occupation: Shoemaker > > >Arrived : May 4, 1882 > > >Ship: Canada > > >Manifest ID# 80190 > > >Port of Embarkation: Havre > > > > > >It also listed the following: > > >Madeline - Age 45 > > >Henri - Age 20 (Engraver) > > >Rosa - Age 9 > > >Ida - Age 7 > > >Marie - Age 4 > > > > > >With the Manifest ID# you can obtain a copy of the manifest from the > > >National Archives - see previous posting for details. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >

Pete and the list, I don't have "Men of Bern" - it's "Germans to America". There are two CDs available: Passenger and Immigration Lists: Germans to America, 1850-1874 (#355) - $59.99 Passenger and Immigration Lists: Germans to America, 1875-1888 (#356) - $59.99 These CDs contain the information found in "Germans to America" edited by Ira A. Glazier and P. William Filby. It is an indexed source of German surname immigrants complied from the original ship manifest schedules for the years 1850-1874 (Volumes 1-31) and 1875-1888 (volumes 32-56). Many of the immigrants listed are from Switzerland. Since they are a little costly, I purchased the later one first, as that is the time period that most of my family came to America. I do have some family that came over earlier, so I suppose I will eventually purchase the first CD. They can be purchased from Family Tree Maker: http://www.familytreemaker.com/immigran.html Barbara Hanville hanville@vivid.net Swissgen Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: <Outriggger@aol.com> To: <hanville@vivid.net> Cc: <dschmutz@es.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > Barbara, > Where did you purchase this wonderful CD-ROM, why did you elect not to get > the CD-ROM covering Volumes 1-31 of "Men of Bern." What is the cost of CD-ROM > (Vol. 1-31), CD-ROM (Vol.32-56), and "Men of Bern" from Picton? > Why did you elect to buy both the CD-ROM (32-56) and the book "Men of Bern?" > Does the book have something that the CD-ROM's don't? > Pete >

Eric, I too, as I am sure others on the list, would love to know where and how you got your information? My immigrating ancestor Benedict Baumgartner & family arrived on the ship "George" from Harve to NY in 1848, I have been told, but I haven't found even the ship, let alone the passenger list. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Regards, Mel Schwartz <schwartz@jps.net> Orangevale, CA Researching the names of SCHWARTZ, BAUMGARTNER, HENDRICKS, TERRY, EVANS, and DAGGY. Also researching the Hawaiian names of BELL, TODD, LEWIS, KALEIMAMAHU, KIHEI, KIPIKANE, and KUMANO. See our "home page" at http://www.jps.net/schwartz/ jowin@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I wonder, Eric, if you are able to find information about another > ship--similar to that you found on the CANADA. This is the ST. BERNHARD, > which sailed from Antwerp and Bremen to New York and arrived in NY on May > 16, 1864. My MUSTER family [spelled MUESTER] are listed as passengers in > Filby's. > > Thanks much. > > Judy > > Eric Kammermann wrote: > > > > Here is a little info on the ship your ancestors came over on. I'm > > currently trying to locate a picture that I heard exists. Eric > > > > SS CANADA > > > > The "CANADA" was built in 1865-6 by Chantier de Penhoet, St Nazaire > > as the "Panama" for Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line). This > > was a 3,400 gross ton ship, length 355.4 ft x beam 43.8 ft, straight stem, > > two funnels, two masts, iron construction, side paddle wheel propulsion and > > a speed of 12 knots. She made her maiden voyage in 1866 between St Nazaire > > and Vera Cruz and continued on this route until 1875. She was then rebuilt > > to 4,054 tons and re-engined with single screw propulsion, a third mast > > added and renamed "CANADA". On 22nd April 1876 she started her first > > Havre-Plymouth-New York voyage and commenced her last sailing on this > > service on 15th May 1886. She then transferred to the Havre-Panama route, > > was re-engined in 1896 and eventually scrapped at St Nazaire in 1908. (North > > Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P. Bonsor, vol.2, p.654) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin & Barbara Hanville <hanville@vivid.net> > > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > > > >I located this as well in Germans to America. It showed the following: > > > > > >Samuel Weber > > >Age: 44 > > >Occupation: Shoemaker > > >Arrived : May 4, 1882 > > >Ship: Canada > > >Manifest ID# 80190 > > >Port of Embarkation: Havre > > > > > >It also listed the following: > > >Madeline - Age 45 > > >Henri - Age 20 (Engraver) > > >Rosa - Age 9 > > >Ida - Age 7 > > >Marie - Age 4 > > > > > >With the Manifest ID# you can obtain a copy of the manifest from the > > >National Archives - see previous posting for details. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <Mml45@aol.com> > > >To: <hanville@vivid.net>; <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:26 AM > > >Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > > > > > > > >> In a message dated 3/9/00 7:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > >> hanville@vivid.net writes: > > >> > > >> << > > >> Barbara Hanville > > >> hanville@vivid.net > > >> Swissgen Volunteer > > >> >> > > >> Hi Barbara and others on the Swiss list, > > >> > > >> I have been looking but not finding the ship "Canada" that left > > >Le > > >> Harve > > >> April 1882 and sailed to New York. I know that Samuel Weber (of > > >> Trieten, Switzerland), his wife Magdalina, and 4 children; Henri, > > >> Rosa, Ida Caroline, & Marie were on this ship as I have the > > >> original ticket. I would like to look at the list of others > > that > > >> were on this ship to see if there might have been other > > relatives > > >> traveling at this time. > > >> Does any one have an idea where I could look for this > > >information > > >> on the Internet? > > >> Thank you > > >> Margaret > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > > >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Resource Site > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

I wonder, Eric, if you are able to find information about another ship--similar to that you found on the CANADA. This is the ST. BERNHARD, which sailed from Antwerp and Bremen to New York and arrived in NY on May 16, 1864. My MUSTER family [spelled MUESTER] are listed as passengers in Filby's. Thanks much. Judy Eric Kammermann wrote: > > Here is a little info on the ship your ancestors came over on. I'm > currently trying to locate a picture that I heard exists. Eric > > SS CANADA > > The "CANADA" was built in 1865-6 by Chantier de Penhoet, St Nazaire > as the "Panama" for Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line). This > was a 3,400 gross ton ship, length 355.4 ft x beam 43.8 ft, straight stem, > two funnels, two masts, iron construction, side paddle wheel propulsion and > a speed of 12 knots. She made her maiden voyage in 1866 between St Nazaire > and Vera Cruz and continued on this route until 1875. She was then rebuilt > to 4,054 tons and re-engined with single screw propulsion, a third mast > added and renamed "CANADA". On 22nd April 1876 she started her first > Havre-Plymouth-New York voyage and commenced her last sailing on this > service on 15th May 1886. She then transferred to the Havre-Panama route, > was re-engined in 1896 and eventually scrapped at St Nazaire in 1908. (North > Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P. Bonsor, vol.2, p.654) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin & Barbara Hanville <hanville@vivid.net> > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > >I located this as well in Germans to America. It showed the following: > > > >Samuel Weber > >Age: 44 > >Occupation: Shoemaker > >Arrived : May 4, 1882 > >Ship: Canada > >Manifest ID# 80190 > >Port of Embarkation: Havre > > > >It also listed the following: > >Madeline - Age 45 > >Henri - Age 20 (Engraver) > >Rosa - Age 9 > >Ida - Age 7 > >Marie - Age 4 > > > >With the Manifest ID# you can obtain a copy of the manifest from the > >National Archives - see previous posting for details. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <Mml45@aol.com> > >To: <hanville@vivid.net>; <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:26 AM > >Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > > > > >> In a message dated 3/9/00 7:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >> hanville@vivid.net writes: > >> > >> << > >> Barbara Hanville > >> hanville@vivid.net > >> Swissgen Volunteer > >> >> > >> Hi Barbara and others on the Swiss list, > >> > >> I have been looking but not finding the ship "Canada" that left > >Le > >> Harve > >> April 1882 and sailed to New York. I know that Samuel Weber (of > >> Trieten, Switzerland), his wife Magdalina, and 4 children; Henri, > >> Rosa, Ida Caroline, & Marie were on this ship as I have the > >> original ticket. I would like to look at the list of others > that > >> were on this ship to see if there might have been other > relatives > >> traveling at this time. > >> Does any one have an idea where I could look for this > >information > >> on the Internet? > >> Thank you > >> Margaret > >> > > > > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Resource Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw

Here is a little info on the ship your ancestors came over on. I'm currently trying to locate a picture that I heard exists. Eric SS CANADA The "CANADA" was built in 1865-6 by Chantier de Penhoet, St Nazaire as the "Panama" for Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line). This was a 3,400 gross ton ship, length 355.4 ft x beam 43.8 ft, straight stem, two funnels, two masts, iron construction, side paddle wheel propulsion and a speed of 12 knots. She made her maiden voyage in 1866 between St Nazaire and Vera Cruz and continued on this route until 1875. She was then rebuilt to 4,054 tons and re-engined with single screw propulsion, a third mast added and renamed "CANADA". On 22nd April 1876 she started her first Havre-Plymouth-New York voyage and commenced her last sailing on this service on 15th May 1886. She then transferred to the Havre-Panama route, was re-engined in 1896 and eventually scrapped at St Nazaire in 1908. (North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P. Bonsor, vol.2, p.654) -----Original Message----- From: Kevin & Barbara Hanville <hanville@vivid.net> To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN >I located this as well in Germans to America. It showed the following: > >Samuel Weber >Age: 44 >Occupation: Shoemaker >Arrived : May 4, 1882 >Ship: Canada >Manifest ID# 80190 >Port of Embarkation: Havre > >It also listed the following: >Madeline - Age 45 >Henri - Age 20 (Engraver) >Rosa - Age 9 >Ida - Age 7 >Marie - Age 4 > >With the Manifest ID# you can obtain a copy of the manifest from the >National Archives - see previous posting for details. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Mml45@aol.com> >To: <hanville@vivid.net>; <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:26 AM >Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > >> In a message dated 3/9/00 7:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> hanville@vivid.net writes: >> >> << >> Barbara Hanville >> hanville@vivid.net >> Swissgen Volunteer >> >> >> Hi Barbara and others on the Swiss list, >> >> I have been looking but not finding the ship "Canada" that left >Le >> Harve >> April 1882 and sailed to New York. I know that Samuel Weber (of >> Trieten, Switzerland), his wife Magdalina, and 4 children; Henri, >> Rosa, Ida Caroline, & Marie were on this ship as I have the >> original ticket. I would like to look at the list of others that >> were on this ship to see if there might have been other relatives >> traveling at this time. >> Does any one have an idea where I could look for this >information >> on the Internet? >> Thank you >> Margaret >> > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

This may help if any one has a question on Homesteading. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Vicki

I located this as well in Germans to America. It showed the following: Samuel Weber Age: 44 Occupation: Shoemaker Arrived : May 4, 1882 Ship: Canada Manifest ID# 80190 Port of Embarkation: Havre It also listed the following: Madeline - Age 45 Henri - Age 20 (Engraver) Rosa - Age 9 Ida - Age 7 Marie - Age 4 With the Manifest ID# you can obtain a copy of the manifest from the National Archives - see previous posting for details. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mml45@aol.com> To: <hanville@vivid.net>; <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > In a message dated 3/9/00 7:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, > hanville@vivid.net writes: > > << > Barbara Hanville > hanville@vivid.net > Swissgen Volunteer > >> > Hi Barbara and others on the Swiss list, > > I have been looking but not finding the ship "Canada" that left Le > Harve > April 1882 and sailed to New York. I know that Samuel Weber (of > Trieten, Switzerland), his wife Magdalina, and 4 children; Henri, > Rosa, Ida Caroline, & Marie were on this ship as I have the > original ticket. I would like to look at the list of others that > were on this ship to see if there might have been other relatives > traveling at this time. > Does any one have an idea where I could look for this information > on the Internet? > Thank you > Margaret >

I have an off-line source (CD-ROM) that contains the information found in the Germans to America (Volumes 32-56) Edited by Ira A. Glazier and P. William Filby. It is an indexed source of German surname immigrants complied from the original ship manifest schedules for the years 1875 - 1888. Many of the immigrants listed are from Switzerland. There is another CD available covering Volumes 1-31 for the earlier years, but I do not have it. Once you have the Manifest ID# you can obtain a copy of the manifest from the National Archives http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/immpass.html or write to General Reference Branch National Archives and Records Administration 7th and Pennsylvania Avenue N.W. Washington, DC 20408 You will need to complete Form 81 (for Ship Passenger Arrival Records) - Cost $10.00 Hope this is helpful!! Barbara Hanville hanville@vivid.net Swissgen Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: <dschmutz@es.com> To: <hanville@vivid.net>; <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > Dear Barbara: > > Great information.......want to clue us in on where you searched, sources, > on-line? off-line? etc. Since I am, well to put it mildly, clueless about > these things. > > Thanks for volunteering in SwissGen ==> http://swiss.genealogy.net > > Dave Schmutz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin & Barbara Hanville [mailto:hanville@vivid.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 5:33 AM > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > > Hi Bonny, > > I did a lookup, and located the ship information on Gottfried Habegger. > Here is the information: > > Passenger : Gottfried Habegger > Age: 17 > Country of Origin: Switzerland > Occupation: Blacksmith > Arrived: Sep 14, 1881 > Ship: Labrador > Manifest ID# : 80156 > Port of Embarkation: Havre > > I also looked up Louise Karlen, and found the following. Her age does not > match exactly the info that you supplied, but there could always be a > mistake somewhere. There were also several other Karlens on the same ship - > I'm listing them as you may know how they relate to Louise: > > Passenger: Louise Karlen > Age: 11 > Country of Origin: Switzerland > Occupation: Mason Maker > Arrived: June 18, 1883 > Ship: Normandie > Manifest ID#: 80381 > Port of Embarkation: Havre > Mode of Travel: Steerage > > The other potential family members listed are as follows (they all list > occupation of Mason Maker as well): > > Catherine - Age 13 > Catherine - Age 36 > David - Age 29 > Emmanuel - Age 16 > Emmanuel - Age 36 > Jean (Male) - Age 27 > > Also listed (not as Mason Maker): > > Rosine - Age 7 > Alfred - Age 4 > Emma - Age 2 > Emma - Infant > > Hope this helps! > > Barbara Hanville > hanville@vivid.net > Swissgen Volunteer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DAVID TODD <dandbtodd@highland.net> > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:21 AM > Subject: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > > > > Good Evening, > > > > My name is Bonny Todd and I am researching the above named > > families for my daughter in law. > > > > I know very little of these folks, but what I do have I will post > > below. Hopefully you might be able to help me in this search > > and if not, maybe you can put me in the right direction. > > > > 1. Gottfried Habegger > > Born: 1864 > > Bern > > Died: December 12, 1940 Youngstown, Ohio > > > > Gottfried came to America in 1881. We are also trying to locate > > the port he left from, and the name of the ship. > > > > 2. Louise Karlen (wife of Gottfried) > > Born: November 12, 1874 > > Interlocken, Switzerland > > Died: 1904 Youngstown, Ohio > > > > I appreciate any help you can give me. I look forward to hearing > > from you. Have a great evening. > > > > Thank You, > > Bonny Todd >

Dear Barbara: Great information.......want to clue us in on where you searched, sources, on-line? off-line? etc. Since I am, well to put it mildly, clueless about these things. Thanks for volunteering in SwissGen ==> http://swiss.genealogy.net Dave Schmutz -----Original Message----- From: Kevin & Barbara Hanville [mailto:hanville@vivid.net] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 5:33 AM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN Hi Bonny, I did a lookup, and located the ship information on Gottfried Habegger. Here is the information: Passenger : Gottfried Habegger Age: 17 Country of Origin: Switzerland Occupation: Blacksmith Arrived: Sep 14, 1881 Ship: Labrador Manifest ID# : 80156 Port of Embarkation: Havre I also looked up Louise Karlen, and found the following. Her age does not match exactly the info that you supplied, but there could always be a mistake somewhere. There were also several other Karlens on the same ship - I'm listing them as you may know how they relate to Louise: Passenger: Louise Karlen Age: 11 Country of Origin: Switzerland Occupation: Mason Maker Arrived: June 18, 1883 Ship: Normandie Manifest ID#: 80381 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage The other potential family members listed are as follows (they all list occupation of Mason Maker as well): Catherine - Age 13 Catherine - Age 36 David - Age 29 Emmanuel - Age 16 Emmanuel - Age 36 Jean (Male) - Age 27 Also listed (not as Mason Maker): Rosine - Age 7 Alfred - Age 4 Emma - Age 2 Emma - Infant Hope this helps! Barbara Hanville hanville@vivid.net Swissgen Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID TODD <dandbtodd@highland.net> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > Good Evening, > > My name is Bonny Todd and I am researching the above named > families for my daughter in law. > > I know very little of these folks, but what I do have I will post > below. Hopefully you might be able to help me in this search > and if not, maybe you can put me in the right direction. > > 1. Gottfried Habegger > Born: 1864 > Bern > Died: December 12, 1940 Youngstown, Ohio > > Gottfried came to America in 1881. We are also trying to locate > the port he left from, and the name of the ship. > > 2. Louise Karlen (wife of Gottfried) > Born: November 12, 1874 > Interlocken, Switzerland > Died: 1904 Youngstown, Ohio > > I appreciate any help you can give me. I look forward to hearing > from you. Have a great evening. > > Thank You, > Bonny Todd

Hi Bonny, I did a lookup, and located the ship information on Gottfried Habegger. Here is the information: Passenger : Gottfried Habegger Age: 17 Country of Origin: Switzerland Occupation: Blacksmith Arrived: Sep 14, 1881 Ship: Labrador Manifest ID# : 80156 Port of Embarkation: Havre I also looked up Louise Karlen, and found the following. Her age does not match exactly the info that you supplied, but there could always be a mistake somewhere. There were also several other Karlens on the same ship - I'm listing them as you may know how they relate to Louise: Passenger: Louise Karlen Age: 11 Country of Origin: Switzerland Occupation: Mason Maker Arrived: June 18, 1883 Ship: Normandie Manifest ID#: 80381 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage The other potential family members listed are as follows (they all list occupation of Mason Maker as well): Catherine - Age 13 Catherine - Age 36 David - Age 29 Emmanuel - Age 16 Emmanuel - Age 36 Jean (Male) - Age 27 Also listed (not as Mason Maker): Rosine - Age 7 Alfred - Age 4 Emma - Age 2 Emma - Infant Hope this helps! Barbara Hanville hanville@vivid.net Swissgen Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID TODD <dandbtodd@highland.net> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: [SWITZ] HABEGGER and KARLEN > Good Evening, > > My name is Bonny Todd and I am researching the above named > families for my daughter in law. > > I know very little of these folks, but what I do have I will post > below. Hopefully you might be able to help me in this search > and if not, maybe you can put me in the right direction. > > 1. Gottfried Habegger > Born: 1864 > Bern > Died: December 12, 1940 Youngstown, Ohio > > Gottfried came to America in 1881. We are also trying to locate > the port he left from, and the name of the ship. > > 2. Louise Karlen (wife of Gottfried) > Born: November 12, 1874 > Interlocken, Switzerland > Died: 1904 Youngstown, Ohio > > I appreciate any help you can give me. I look forward to hearing > from you. Have a great evening. > > Thank You, > Bonny Todd > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? > mail to Switzerland-L-request@rootsweb.com > subject line: unsubscribe > nothing in message >

In a message dated 3/9/00 7:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, hanville@vivid.net writes: << Barbara Hanville hanville@vivid.net Swissgen Volunteer >> Hi Barbara and others on the Swiss list, I have been looking but not finding the ship "Canada" that left Le Harve April 1882 and sailed to New York. I know that Samuel Weber (of Trieten, Switzerland), his wife Magdalina, and 4 children; Henri, Rosa, Ida Caroline, & Marie were on this ship as I have the original ticket. I would like to look at the list of others that were on this ship to see if there might have been other relatives traveling at this time. Does any one have an idea where I could look for this information on the Internet? Thank you Margaret

Hello to all on the list: One of my non-computer activities is listening to a number of radio programs broadcast by some of the international broadcasters of the would. Since coming to the realization that almost half of my heritage is Swiss, I have tried to listen to the programs from Swiss Radio International (SRI) as regularly as possible. One of the feature programs of that station that I try to make it a point to listen to is called the Name Game. This is a monthly feature where one of the stations' staff members goes to a community to describe it. Interviews are done with local citizens, business persons, or community leaders. Unless there is a very rare slip of the tongue, the name of the community is not given. The objective is to determine what the name of the community is, send in the answer on a post card or in a letter, and have your name put into a "pool" from which three are drawn about six weeks later for prizes. The Name Game is the feature of the first Saturday of each month. Just as a point of interest, this past weekend my reaction to the Name Game was "Yes! Yes! Yes!" as all the hints pointed to the community from which two of my ancestral families came. It sure helped that my family had been able to spend a week there a few years ago. Now, for those whose activities have not extended to listening to international or short-wave radio, SRI has recently instituted an alternative means of "listening" to their broadcasts. This alternative is just up our alley, as users of the internet. At the web site <http://www.swissinfo.org> SRI has provided access to "real-audio" versions of the same broadcasts they send out over the air. From the opening page, you can even pick your language. The German, French, and Italian pages even have video, choppy as it is, to go along with some of the stories. We who are "limited" to English have only audio to listen to. Currently, every other week, there is a feature on one of the cantons. It hasn't been specified what information will be of most use, but at the end of the year, there will be one or more questions, for which there will be a drawing from among those sending in the correct answers. If you any questions about some part of what I have described, please feel free to contact me. Hubert Paulson

Looking for any decendents of: Augustin Morsch of Chene, Geneva Switzerland who, in 1861, married Henriette Kauffmann daughter of Christian Ludwig Kauffmann, Bonnigheim, Germany and Katharina Hieber of Lochgau, Germany. Henriette was the sister of my gr-grandmother, Christiane Kauffmann Salzer. Christiane immigrated to New Orleans in 1855. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Adrian Bettevy

sharon: I found the name RO(e)THILSBERGER in Canton Bern before 1800 and here are the towns that it has appeared in: Bowil (a) before 1800 Eggiwil (a) Hilterfingen (a) Langnau im Emmental (a) Laukperswil (a) Trub (a) Trubschachen (a) In Mario Van Moos "Bibliography of Swiss Genealogies" are the following listings for the name: von Lerber,Theodor: Stammbaum der Familie ROETHLISBERGER von Langnau (im Emmental) 4: Zweig des Niklaus, geb. 1789. Bern 1960 - 1 blatt (in der Schweizeris;chen Landesbiblothek). Thompson,Dale E: The American Descentants of the ROTHLISBERGERS Switzerland. (Kanton Bern) South Charlston,WV 1985 - 383 p. Stammlisten (in der Schweizer- ischen Landesbibliothek) Julius Billeter in his Notes Microfilm Number 0193482 has information on a Ro(e)thlisberger family. Many of the church records of Canton Bern have been filmed and a trip to your local Family History Center would be of great help to you. Also in the last few days someone (Rick ?) has been checking on the name of Segesmann. Hope this will be of help to you. Joe Wolfe On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:28:12 EST GRAPEPEOPL@aol.com writes: > Researching my husbands family. His grandfather came to the US in > the early > 1900s. His name was Hans, as was his father and grandfather. His > great-grandfathers name was Simon. They came from the Canton Bern. > > His mothers name was Elise Segesseman. > > Thank you. > > Sharon > California > USA > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Good Evening, My name is Bonny Todd and I am researching the above named families for my daughter in law. I know very little of these folks, but what I do have I will post below. Hopefully you might be able to help me in this search and if not, maybe you can put me in the right direction. 1. Gottfried Habegger Born: 1864 Bern Died: December 12, 1940 Youngstown, Ohio Gottfried came to America in 1881. We are also trying to locate the port he left from, and the name of the ship. 2. Louise Karlen (wife of Gottfried) Born: November 12, 1874 Interlocken, Switzerland Died: 1904 Youngstown, Ohio I appreciate any help you can give me. I look forward to hearing from you. Have a great evening. Thank You, Bonny Todd

Dear Rick, > ---------- > Von: Fredric Z. Saunders[SMTP:fzsaund@ix.netcom.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2000 23:15 > An: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [SWITZ] RE: Segessemann / Segessenmann data added from FNBS > '89 > > Actually I am pretty sure there is something in von Moos, although I don't > have a copy of the page. It may be under a slightly different spelling, > perhaps starting with an umlauted a instead of the first e. Try looking > under Wattenwil and it should show up. > > Rick Saunders > A section in the von Moos bibliography which is easily overlooked is the register of surnames listed in genealogical collections : a separate listing at the end of the book, with some 4500 entries ! This includes : Segessemann von Thun, aus Wattenwil, ab 1908 THN S. 223 where THN stands for BÜRKI W.: Verzeichnis der Burger von Thun. Thun 1977. vergl. auch: 1. Auflage: bearbeitet von Carl HUBER. Thun 1932, und 2. Auflage: von Hans ISELI: Thun 1959. Best regards - Wolf ---------------------- Wolf W. Seelentag, PhD, e-mail : wolf@swissmail.com Reherstr. 19, CH - 9016 St. Gallen, Switzerland Tel (home) : +41-71-2885121 Fax : +49-89-2443-91987 Tel (work) : +41-71-4942233