Hi there: I am looking for any person in the USA are Switzerland who are connected to any Felder here and in any other county in the world. I am trying to find my distant kin in Switzerland. My 5th GGrandfather Hans Heinrich Felder and his wife and a son migrated to Charles Town, South Carolina in the year of 1735. I have information on 3 major Felder families that was in 3 different parts of Switzerland. What I would love to try to connect these 3 families together in some shape or form. By going back to the year of 1735 people I am hope it can be done. I speak no German are Swiss but if you have data that you think you could help please lets try to communicate with each other any way. I thank you and all Charles H. Felder Member of the Orangeburgh German-Swiss Gen. Soc. Member of the Jacksonville, Florida Gen. Soc. Looking for Hans Heinrich Felder and John Henry Felder, Sr. Captain (direct kin) Looking for any information on any Stroman

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I just filled out my short form and couldn't believe it. Why did they even bother to send it out? I filled out the long form in the 1990 census and at least they got more than my name, etc. What a disappointment for those of us interested in genealogy. annette rink cedar rapids, iowa << > I just filled out my 200 census. I received the short version. It only > asked my name, age, date of birth, how many lived in my household, and if I > owned my house and what race I was. That is all. > > How are future generations going to doing any searching with such little > information? > > I am 51 years old. This is the first census I have ever received and I have > lived in the same house for almost 30 years. >>

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CENSUS - 2000 all that seems important is your race...something our government tells us shouldn't matter, yet every application for employment, every civil service test and numerous other government documents and applications ask it. Ever wonder why? I wonder did they ask similar questions in Germany in 1933.. ??? Well, yes I believe they did. My great-aunt had to go back 3 generations in her blood line, just to get married. Where are we headed with these racial profiles? Were the Jews just as uncaring and naive as the Black, Hispanics, Asians and Native Indians are today. I was brought up with the belief we were a melting pot and that all people should be treated equally, that race, creed, religion doesn't matter and I'm happy to say I still believe that. The 2000 Census should be a wake up call to those who have never been asked their race on a govenment application or test. Ask yourself why would they want to know and you'll get the drift of where we are headed and it doesn't look like harmony (racial or otherwise) to me! TALK WITH YOUR VOTE IN NOVEMBER!! Voting is not just a right. It is a responsibility. Don't abdicate your rights and let others decide your future. I have more respect for one person who disagrees with me on a issue and votes, than a thousand who agree with me and don't vote. Sorry to bring this up, but I too am disappointed with the short from census.

I just emailed the people in charge of the federal census 2000 and gave them several reasons why everyone should receive the long form and also why my family especially should receive this long form, too. My daughter has a severe disability. She is 21 years old has ADHD,OCD, and PDD as well as severely types of non convulsive epilepsy. I pointed out to them their own commercial about the waitress who had to bring her child to the place where she worked because she couldn't find daycare for her young child. The same thing could be said for those who are disabled, but the DISABLED CAN'T BE COUNTED WITH THE SHORT FORM!!!!!!!! So those who have family members who are disabled, go to the census web site and email them and let them now that you don't agree with this short form. In doing so you help out the disabled as well as help out those who want the long form for purposes of genealogy. Thank you very much, Gwendalynn Gohlke Dunn P.S. Who knows, the more emails that they get might make a difference...so everyone email this office and let them know how you think about the short versus the long form!!!!! Edwin Hunter wrote: > Hi: > Kathy Devlin gave you the census web site: www.2000.census.gov > > Go there and check ALL of the links... one of them will allow you to > download the "long" form. It is only 12 pages long, compared to some > 30 or so in the actual, but it omits the iterations for six extra > residents. It is labeled "Information Copy" because you CANNOT submit > it in place of your short form. But in case you want to fill it out and > put it away for your survivors to discover some day, there it is! Knock > yourself out! > > Ted > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Swiss Resource Site > http://swiss.genealogy.net

I fell the same way as you do. I received the short form,too, but didn't know that there was a longer form sent to others. I did remark to my husband that the form was very short, and I thought that it was going to be a lot longer than it was. I have also heard that there were those who received a longer form. Do you know how they chose which ones were to receive the longer forms? This was also the first census form that I had to fill out here in the USA. I will turn 51 in less than two weeks. In 1970 I was in college, 1980 overseas in Berlin with my husband and family while he was in the air force, and in 1990 overseas yet again in England,. We lived in England from end of Dec 1991 to June 1997 and didn't fill out any census but they sent out forms for everyone to see if there was anyone in the residences in England who could vote. I am also disappointed because I would have especially enjoyed filling out the longer form instead of the very abbreviate form that we filled out. It didn't even ask you the amount of education that the residents have or even whether any of them could read or write or even speak English. Gwendalynn Gohlke Dunn Deborah.Mueller@chron.com wrote: > I just filled out my 200 census. I received the short version. It only > asked my name, age, date of birth, how many lived in my household, and if I > owned my house and what race I was. That is all. > > How are future generations going to doing any searching with such little > information? > > I am 51 years old. This is the first census I have ever received and I have > lived in the same house for almost 30 years. > > I am very disappointed with the census. > > Deborah L. Mueller > > Houston Chronicle > General Accounting Department > Phone (713) 220-3532 > Fax (713) 354-3029 > Deborah.Mueller@chron.com <mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Swiss Resource Site > http://swiss.genealogy.net

On 11 Mar 2000 Ed <epfen@juno.com> wrote > Swiss Greetings to Everyone,("gruezi"): > > I wrote earlier in the week , but I believe it was sent to > the wrong address. About two years ago we were able > to trace my wifes' Egolf ancesters back 10 generations > to Hans Egolf, who was born in Switzerland in1645. > He married Eva ( ? ), and died in Unterschefflenz, in > Germany,in 1712. A son, Hans Heinrich,born 1681, > had a son George Adam who immigrated to Phila. > from Germany in 1738. > We need your help to learn more about the Swiss > Hans Egolf. > > Thank you, > > Ed The Kraichgau is a section of Southwest Germany. The late Heinz Schuchmann, a Kraichgau genealogist, estimated that approximately 40% of the Kraichgau population was of Swiss descent because of Swiss emigration to the Kraichgau from the end of the Thirty Years War (1648) until the early decades of the 1700s. In the book "Schweizer Einwanderer in den Kraichgau" is the following entry: No. 921 EGOLF, Johann Jakob, von Nürensdorf ZH, Schuhmacher (Vater: Johann Jakob Egolf, Barbier, Chirurgus und Licenter sowie Gerichtsbürger in Unterschefflenz), oo Mosbach 27.7.1711 Rosina Dorothea Uckelin. I assume you are trying to discover where your Hans Egolf came from in Switzerland. The entry above suggests that Johann Jakob Egolf and his father, Johann Jakob Egolf, both emigrated from Nürensdorf, ZH. These two may be part of the family you are searching for. The fact that he lived in the same town you mentioned, Unterschefflenz, is interesting, and suggests you should check the records of Nürensdorf, Canton Zurich. "Familiennamenbuch der Schweiz" has no entry for Egolf at Nürensdorf, but everyone could have emigrated from that location or the name there could have "daughtered out". One cannot find Nürensdorf directly at the LDS URL http://www.familysearch.org/ Instead, I guessed which surrounding town had a church which served Nürensdorf. I guessed Bassersdorf. The Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Bassersdorf (Zürich) did serve Nürensdorf. There are three LDS microfilms of the church records numbered 996806, 2060936 and 2060967. The first contains Taufen, Heiraten and Tote for the period 1545 - 1794, the period you are interested in. I hope this information turns out to be helpful. Lyle G. Hartman Landenberg, Pennsylvania

According to Richardson, the pattern of name-giving known as dynastic repetition was in high vogue in eastern Switzerland some centuries before his study period of 1100-1300. First sons were named after their fathers (thus Peterli and Peterman), while second sons were named after uncles on the fathers' side. The practice, at least in eastern Switzerland among the Germanic freemen and lesser nobility, diminished considerably after 1400, with fully 75 of the 93 names studied recurring only once or twice. An exception to this finding is Canton Uri and the upper Rhone River Valley (of Canton Wallis) where the practice of naming first sons after their father and second sons after the paternal uncle continues to this day. I am not conversant on the subject in other parts of Switzerland. Pete Mattli Ft. Myers, FL Subj: [SWITZ] Naming Patterns/ SCHAUB Date: 03/15/2000 1:00:00 AM Eastern Standard Time From: msmcdan@humboldt1.com (Margaret McDaniel) Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:msmcdan@humboldt1.com">msmcdan@humboldt1.com</A> To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Can you tell me if the Swiss generally named their children after family members? If so, did they follow any pattern (i.e. first son after paternal grandfather, second after maternal grandfather, etc.)? My ancestor, Arnold Earnest SCHAUB made a Declaration of Intention to become a United States citizen 26 Sep 1874, and homesteaded in the Dakota Territory in 1879. His birthplace was Switzerland. The 1920 census asks for the birthplace and mother tongue of the individual, his father and his mother. One son states Arnold's mother tongue was French. Another son has French and German with "French" crossed out. A thrid son gives Arnold's birthplace as U.S. so doesn't know much. Arnold's widow is living in the household where it states that French was his mother tongue, so I think that is probably accurate. 1880 and 1885 census indicated Arnold was born about 1849. Any ideas would be welcome.

Can you tell me if the Swiss generally named their children after family members? If so, did they follow any pattern (i.e. first son after paternal grandfather, second after maternal grandfather, etc.)? My ancestor, Arnold Earnest SCHAUB made a Declaration of Intention to become a United States citizen 26 Sep 1874, and homesteaded in the Dakota Territory in 1879. His birthplace was Switzerland. The 1920 census asks for the birthplace and mother tongue of the individual, his father and his mother. One son states Arnold's mother tongue was French. Another son has French and German with "French" crossed out. A thrid son gives Arnold's birthplace as U.S. so doesn't know much. Arnold's widow is living in the household where it states that French was his mother tongue, so I think that is probably accurate. 1880 and 1885 census indicated Arnold was born about 1849. Any ideas would be welcome.

We had a long form for the census 2000. I am asking all my family to copy it & give it to me when I'm visiting in Ohio later in the summer! That was an excellent idea , advising to copy it, some ideas are born of thinking of future generations! Cathy -----Original Message----- From: Juanita <juanita@inter-linc.net> To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:03 AM Subject: [SWITZ] census >Hi >We just filled out our census of 2000 and we had little to fill out. We had our name, age how many in home, date of birth, if you owned your home, and our race. It didn't even have if you could read or write. In my grandpa census it ask if you could read or write. My daughter and husband received there census papers to fill out the same day we did and they live next door to us and they had a lot of pages to fill out. When these census come out there is lots of genealogy one can get from theres. >Clifford Bollinger > >______________________________

Hi: Kathy Devlin gave you the census web site: www.2000.census.gov Go there and check ALL of the links... one of them will allow you to download the "long" form. It is only 12 pages long, compared to some 30 or so in the actual, but it omits the iterations for six extra residents. It is labeled "Information Copy" because you CANNOT submit it in place of your short form. But in case you want to fill it out and put it away for your survivors to discover some day, there it is! Knock yourself out! Ted

Dear Listers: US Census web site is http://www.2000.census.gov Kathy Devlin

Deborah : We were talking about this today. I understand there might also be a version on the internet. Try it at census and see what you get. I also and most of my friends received the short version. Bad Bad Bad. Joe Wolfe I see a number of people are questioning this and maybe this will help. If anyone can find it on the internet let us all know....Thanx Joe Wolfe On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:43:34 -0600 Deborah.Mueller@chron.com writes: > I just filled out my 200 census. I received the short version. It > only > asked my name, age, date of birth, how many lived in my household, > and if I > owned my house and what race I was. That is all. > > How are future generations going to doing any searching with such > little > information? > > I am 51 years old. This is the first census I have ever received > and I have > lived in the same house for almost 30 years. > > I am very disappointed with the census. > > Deborah L. Mueller > > Houston Chronicle > General Accounting Department > Phone (713) 220-3532 > Fax (713) 354-3029 > Deborah.Mueller@chron.com <mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Swiss Resource Site > http://swiss.genealogy.net >

Greetings to all from Indianapolis. Can anyone tell me where Kurzenburg is in Bern? Or, is the name now extinct? Thank you, Dennis Buerge

I received the same census Deborah and feel the same way you do. What a lot of wasted paper and ink. Shalori -- We take on the strength of that which we overcome ---------- >From: Deborah.Mueller@chron.com >To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SWITZ] 2000 Census >Date: Tue, Mar 14, 2000, 5:43 AM > > I just filled out my 200 census. I received the short version. It only > asked my name, age, date of birth, how many lived in my household, and if I > owned my house and what race I was. That is all. > > How are future generations going to doing any searching with such little > information? > > I am 51 years old. This is the first census I have ever received and I have > lived in the same house for almost 30 years. > > I am very disappointed with the census. > > Deborah L. Mueller > > Houston Chronicle > General Accounting Department > Phone (713) 220-3532 > Fax (713) 354-3029 > Deborah.Mueller@chron.com <mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Swiss Resource Site > http://swiss.genealogy.net > >

Dear Deborah and others, Well, since we have already received two different answers from two different Census offices - who knows? Kathy Devlin -----Original Message----- From: Deborah.Mueller@chron.com [mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:57 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] FW: [HAG2000031400000545] Re: Short census form This is the response I received back from the Census Office. Deborah -----Original Message----- From: genealogy@census.gov [mailto:genealogy@census.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 3:03 PM To: Deborah.Mueller@chron.com Subject: [HAG2000031400000545] Re: Short census form Hello, The choosing of households that will receive the long form is done by computer in early 1999. The long-form is also known as a "sample form." It is sent out to a sample of the population (1 of every 6 households). Its goal is to get response from a representative group of the entire population (by age, race, etc). There is no human intervention when choosing households receiving the long-form so as not to disrupt the sample. As a result, I am sorry to say the Bureau can not take requests for the long-form. Jason History Staff Bureau of the Census agentreply@imc.it.census.gov on 03/14/2000 03:18:46 PM To: Jason G Gauthier/DIR/HQ/BOC@BOC cc: Subject: [HAG200003140000054556562] Short census form ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

The U.S. census is described in the Constitution and is not intended to help genealogists.� Over the years, politicians have altered the act of taking a census and have deliberately distorted the results for their own reasons.� Some politicians even want to "take" the census using random sampling and statistical analysis, and report that they can obtain a more accurate result than by "counting noses".� Better check the Constitution because politicians don't understand it -- at least they seldom act as though they do. Juanita wrote: > Hi > We just filled out our census of 2000 and we had little to fill out. We had our name, age how many in home, date of birth, if you owned your home, and our race. It didn't even have if you could read or write. In my grandpa census it ask if you could read or write. My daughter and husband received there census papers to fill out the same day we did and they live next door to us and they had a lot of pages to fill out. When these census come out there is lots of� genealogy one can get from theres. > Clifford Bollinger > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Anybody want to trade a long form for a short form??? ;-) Dave -----Original Message----- From: Deborah.Mueller@chron.com [mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 2:57 PM To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SWITZ] FW: [HAG2000031400000545] Re: Short census form This is the response I received back from the Census Office. Deborah -----Original Message----- From: genealogy@census.gov [mailto:genealogy@census.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 3:03 PM To: Deborah.Mueller@chron.com Subject: [HAG2000031400000545] Re: Short census form Hello, The choosing of households that will receive the long form is done by computer in early 1999. The long-form is also known as a "sample form." It is sent out to a sample of the population (1 of every 6 households). Its goal is to get response from a representative group of the entire population (by age, race, etc). There is no human intervention when choosing households receiving the long-form so as not to disrupt the sample. As a result, I am sorry to say the Bureau can not take requests for the long-form. Jason History Staff Bureau of the Census