You all keep complaining about my remarks and about the people out there that have to pay to download the messages. So why do you keep sending dumb replies and then they will have to pay for all of your silly messages. It is over and I am sorry. Let's please move on. Thank you Deborah L. Mueller Houston Chronicle General Accounting Department Phone (713) 220-3532 Fax (713) 354-3029 Deborah.Mueller@chron.com <mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com>

Swiss mailing liste Hi I am looking for a professional or an amateur Swiss researcher to continue some research on the surname of WERNLI /WERNLE in the Canton of Aargau. I can read Swiss Deutsch and can communicate in German. Sandi

Listees, I'm looking my Pfenninger Ancestors. Any info that would help ,will be appreciated: EDWARD PFENNINGER b.27Jul1931Philadelphia PA Swiss Citizen-Pfaffikon,Kt Zurich my father-EMIL PFENNINGER b.15May1904,Rorschach,Kt StGallen immigrated to USA-1922 d.23Dec1971,Allentown,PA m.24Jul1929,Kusnacht,Kt Zurich to Ida ThurnheerBerneck,KtStGallen my grandfather-EMIL PFENNINGER b.20Dec1873,Thalwil,Kt Zurich d.27Mar1951,St Gallen m.14Aug1902,Zurich to Maria Elise Gut(with umlaut) my g.grandfather-Johannes PFenninger b.13Jan1843 d.18Feb1935,Heiden,KtStGallen m.Maria Pauline Huber Thank you Ed Pfenninger ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Richard: I understand that there are a few (about 150) "Heckendorn's" in Switzerland with the name originating in the Langenbruck and Waldenburg regions, both in Canton Basel-Landschaft. I also have a listing of 23 in Germany. You speak of the etymology of the name; I was always told as a youngster, that it meant thorn bush or wild rose bush, e.g. hedge thorn. Here's some information I located; "Heckendorn is a name of German origin and is composed of two words, "hecken", i.e. a hedge and "dorn", a thorn. In German, a wild rose is called a hedgethorne." There was a "Heckendorn Furniture Co." located we believe, in Switzerland in the mid 1960's, that had a "Heckendorn Family Crest" displayed in their front entrance of the business. This "family crest" was in pewter, non-coloured, and appears to be a shield with two bars on it. Then there is what would appear to be thorn bush branches with some leaves and flowers at the ends of the branches. Now I understand that there is a manufacturer of kitchen cupboards in Basel; here's the address: Heckendorn & Co., Kuchen AG, Zeyko-Einbaukuchen, Rosentalstrasse 24, 4058 Basel (BS), Switzerland. I'd love to locate an email address or web-site on them to contact them and find out if they are familiar with this "Family Crest", if anyone knows how to go about it. Oh yes! I received a comment from a "DSHUNZIKER" Who said their grandmother was a Heckt. Howard.

I researching the surname DÄTTWEILER from Canton Bern. 4Gfather is Jean Jacob (John is USA) born in Nidau, Canton Bern on 8 March 1808. Married Elizabeth SCHNEITER on 24 March 1832 in Biel, Canton Bern. Jean Jacob's father was Andrè DÄTTWEILER and mother was Elisabetha IMBODEN. I have located Jean Jacob in the Billeter notes for the surname SCHNEITER, and wonder if I can tie the two surnames. Also can I tie the surname IMBODEN to each of the surnames? Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Joy and Charles have been discussing the names HECKE and HECK over possible relationshipbetween names to one another. I was wondering if there was any relationship between either of their two names and HECKENDORN. anxious to hear a reply, Howard Heckendorn

Heche, Heck, Hecke, Heckle, Hecht Earlier post by EddieB? found the longer form in Basel & suggested Heckendorf may have been shortened to Heck during immigration Recently met an Offenheck, too Heck derivatives said to be a type of pike, loom, hedge Interesting to learn the etymology of names >From: Howard Heckendorn <howard.heckendorn@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: howard.heckendorn@sympatico.ca >To: >Subject: [SWITZ] HECKE --HECK SURNAMES >Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 13:33:43 -0500 > >Joy and Charles have been discussing the names HECHE and HECK over >possible relationshipbetween names to one another. I was wondering if >there was any relationship between either of their two names and >HECKENDORN. >anxious to hear a reply, >Howard Heckendorn > > >==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >Resource Site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I'm new to the list, have been reading requests of others regarding Switzerland. My g-grandfather, Joseph LAUBER, was born in Switzerland in 1840. I have nothing else as to location or exact date of birth. He married Elizabeth Boule ABEL who was born in Prussia 27 Mar 1847. They were married in Columbus Ohio and both died in Columbus Ohio. His declaration of intent to become a citizen of the US indicated that he entered the US 7 Oct 1865. A Joseph LAUBER was listed as a passenger on ship named "Newton" which sailed from Hamburg to New York, arrived on 4 Nov 1865. Age was given as 25, occupation farmer, destination unknown. I haven't been able to confirm he is my ancestor. Please advise my next step in trying to find Joseph. Thank you. Jo Anne Momburg JMomburg@aol.com

I personally don't see the problem with the census on this list server. It is pertinent and relevant. I receive numerous messages that I have no interest in reading as do others. Simply put the information in the "Subject" line so that the message can be read or deleted. Time's precious; learn to discriminate in important versus unimportant details. We all pay charges for Internet services one way or another. ----- Original Message ----- From: C. J. Lisa <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Re: Census > Not really, she was simply making a request and you over-reacted & were > rude. > If you looked at it from her perspective your would realize that the census > has taken up a fair bit of time and as she stated "this is a Swiss gene > list". Most people are looking for Swiss ancestors in Switzerland -- not > the USA. The census affects USA genealogy and you are not looking at it > from her viewpoint. Is that a fair statement? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > To: <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:16 AM > Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > > It was rude of her. We are doing research and without the census we would > > be know where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: C. J. Lisa [mailto:cjlisa@worldnet.att.net] > > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 8:51 AM > > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > > > > How rude can you be? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 7:31 AM > > Subject: FW: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > It is called GENEALOGY. > > > > > > Get over it. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Anna Rufer [mailto:rufer@xtra.co.nz] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 6:31 PM > > > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > > > > > > > Folks - > > > What has a present day (presumably USA) census got to do with a > > Switzerland > > > List?!!! > > > I have just downloaded 24 messages regarding it, all of which cost me > > money, > > > & not the slightest bit relevant to my Swiss research from New Zealand!! > > > Can we PLEASE keep to the subject! > > > Apologies if I am out of order here but I am a tad frustrated! > > > Regards, Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Resource Site > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > > Swiss Resource Site > > > http://swiss.genealogy.net > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hello All (bonjour à tous) I am researching my ancestors : BERNERY Isaac, Jean, Louis was born vers 1751 à Bougy, in Canton of Berne. His father : BERNERY Jean-Jacques His mother : MOUNARD Suzanne He was soldat in Courten of Castella regiment Suisse, who came in France to 1776 to 1781. He is married in France to 1779. I think that his surname can be also : BERNEY ? BERNAHRI ?..... Thank you for your help ! If you speak french, that was more easy for me. Amicalement Jackie <):-) mouette@nordnet.fr

Reply to Richard Charles, Moutier Grandval, in Canton of Berne, is a French-speaking district. Isaac Heche was born in the 1790's, the son of Isaac Heche, and was married to Marianne Schaffter. This family emigrated to Wells Co., Indiana in 1844. I do not know of a connection to the name Heck. Thanks for the response, Joy Wengerd

Hi All, I've been lurking for awhile and am wondering if anyone else out there has these surnames. I haven't confirmed this information as yet, my sources are below. >From Canton Aargau, towns of Oftringen and Zofingen. This information is from the Billeter information on film from FHL. Daetwyler/Daetweiler Pluess Leuenberger Graber Wullschleger Maler Lienhart >From Canton St. Gallen this is from the Rohrer Genealogy on microfilm from the FHL. Hoffmanner/Hoffman Rohrer Geiger Muentener Schlegel Tischhauser Wappi Hagman Schwartzin Schwendener Spitz Would like to make contact with others researching these names. Joyce Daetweiler Westmyer Santa Ana, CA

A number of people named Stüssi settled in the Swiss colony of New Glarus, Wisconsin, after 1845. If you had ancestors there, I have access to some of the original church records and could see if I have anything -- would need names and approximate dates of events as the church records are not indexed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph E. Wolfe <joeedwolfe@juno.com> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Stuessi > Marge: In Swiss Surnames the name of Stussi only appears in Basel Canton > in > Basel in 1961 and they came there from Linthal,Glarus. > Before 1800 the following cantons had Stussi families in them. > Canton Glarus - Glarus (a) from before 1800 > Haslen (a) > Linthal (a) > Niederurnen (a) > Riedern (a) > Canton Zurich : - Da(e)nikon (a) > Hofstetten bei Elgg (b) from 1800 to 1850 > (and from Glarus, Gl) > Regensdorf (a) > Russikon. > > In Mario Van Moos "Bibliographies of Swiss Genealogies" are the > following: > 1) Stussi- Gyger, Jacob - Stammbaum STUSSI von Linthal, Glarus 1964 - 64 > bl. > (in der Landesbibliothek Glarus) > 2) Schulthess, Konrad: Aus STUSSI 9von Regensdorf) wird Steissel. In : > Schweizer > Familienforscher 39,1972 - S 52-54. > 3) Stussi,B. - Die STUSSI von Riedern. Kleine Familiengeschichte eine > weitversweigten Geschlechts. In: Glarner Nachrichten 1979 - vom 31. Juli > 1979 > > The local family history center should have some of the church records on > microfilm. > Hope this will be of help to you. > > Joe Wolfe > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:47:14 -0600 "Marge" <cedarcrk@ultravision.net> > writes: > > Good Morning, How would I go about discovering the parents of > > FREDERICK > > STUESSI B 1864 in Basil, Switzerland. He married Mary Apel. > > Also > > would like to find out more on Mary. Thank you, Marge/Tx > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Resource Site > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Resource Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw >

CJ Lisa, Deborah has a right to HER opinion just as you do yours. Heres mine. If this isnt a Genealogy newsgroup then please do let me know because I too am VERY TIRED of listening to the ongoing chatter about everything that has little to do with GENEALOGY. Shalori -- We take on the strength of that which we overcome ---------- >From: "C. J. Lisa" <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> >To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Re: Census >Date: Fri, Mar 17, 2000, 6:50 AM > > How rude can you be? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 7:31 AM > Subject: FW: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > >> >> Anna, >> >> It is called GENEALOGY. >> >> Get over it. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anna Rufer [mailto:rufer@xtra.co.nz] >> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 6:31 PM >> To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SWITZ] Re: Census >> >> >> Folks - >> What has a present day (presumably USA) census got to do with a > Switzerland >> List?!!! >> I have just downloaded 24 messages regarding it, all of which cost me > money, >> & not the slightest bit relevant to my Swiss research from New Zealand!! >> Can we PLEASE keep to the subject! >> Apologies if I am out of order here but I am a tad frustrated! >> Regards, Anna >> >> >> >> >> ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >> Resource Site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw >> >> >> ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== >> Swiss Resource Site >> http://swiss.genealogy.net >> >> > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Hello Everyone, I had three wonderful responses to my question of what a Haushaltungsrodel was - a household register. Now I will try once again with the surname I am researching in Switzerland. I am researching my ancestor Barbara STIERLI, daughter of Susanna Stierli (which tells me she is illegitimate) as stated on her marriage certificate to Johann Gottlieb Hottmann dated 5 Aug. 1856 in Sauk County, Wisconsin, USA. Barbara and Johann had a daughter Elisabeth born July 1854 in Switzerland. By this birth date I am calculating Barbara's birthdate to be about 1834. They immigrated to America in 1854 and to Wisconsin by 1856 when my great-grandfather Christian Frederich Hottmann was born. Barbara died in Dec. 1857 in Arena, Iowa County, Wisconsin. I have checked the Swiss Surname Book for villages where the Stierli name existed prior to 1800 and from 1800-1900. I have pinpointed six localities in Canton Aargau: Aristau, Boswil, Gebenstorf, Goeslikon, Muri, and Turgi and three in Canton Zurich: Birmensdorf, Kloten, and Urdorf. The LDS has microfilmed Buergerakten for the surname Stierli in Aristau from 1630-1791, but this is too early for me. Are Buergerakten citizen records??? Johann Gottlieb Hottmann was from Grunbach, Wuerttemberg, Germany. My aunt had repeatedly told me that her Grandfather always said, "Ich bin eine Schweizer gelbe Bauch". From what I can figure, this means "I am a yellow-bellied Swiss". Why would he have said this? If this was truly my aunt's grandfather saying this, well, he was born in Wisconsin and if it was instead her great-grandfather, he was born in Wuerttemberg. He emigrated to Switzerland before coming to America. Anyone have any light on this or have any connections to the Stierli surname? Darcy from River Falls, Wisconsin

Dear Swiss Genealogy Listserve group. I've only belonged to this listserve for a short while and so far I am not impressed. Could all this cat-fighting be done via private messages? My sense is that hardly anyone is interested. I have belonged to a Finnish genealogy listserve for a few years and when someone posts a message it seems people race to be among the first to give assistance. I was hoping this listserve would be the same. So far I haven't noticed that occurring. In this age of data-collection-gone-mad I personally feel the 2000 Federal Census in the U.S. is a mute point and not worthy of a long string on this listserve. Furthermore, it's not going to help any of us find our elusive Swiss ancestors. If you disagree and feel the need to tell me so, please do it in a private message and save the innocent monotony! Jim At 07:33 PM 3/17/2000 , you wrote: >Not really, she was simply making a request and you over-reacted & were >rude. >If you looked at it from her perspective your would realize that the census >has taken up a fair bit of time and as she stated "this is a Swiss gene >list". Most people are looking for Swiss ancestors in Switzerland -- not >the USA. The census affects USA genealogy and you are not looking at it >from her viewpoint. Is that a fair statement? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> >To: <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> >Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:16 AM >Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > >> It was rude of her. We are doing research and without the census we would >> be know where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: C. J. Lisa [mailto:cjlisa@worldnet.att.net] >> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 8:51 AM >> To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Re: Census >> >> >> How rude can you be? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> >> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 7:31 AM >> Subject: FW: [SWITZ] Re: Census >> >> >> > >> > Anna, >> > >> > It is called GENEALOGY. >> > >> > Get over it. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Anna Rufer [mailto:rufer@xtra.co.nz] >> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 6:31 PM >> > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [SWITZ] Re: Census >> > >> > >> > Folks - >> > What has a present day (presumably USA) census got to do with a >> Switzerland >> > List?!!! >> > I have just downloaded 24 messages regarding it, all of which cost me >> money, >> > & not the slightest bit relevant to my Swiss research from New Zealand!! >> > Can we PLEASE keep to the subject! >> > Apologies if I am out of order here but I am a tad frustrated! >> > Regards, Anna >

Not really, she was simply making a request and you over-reacted & were rude. If you looked at it from her perspective your would realize that the census has taken up a fair bit of time and as she stated "this is a Swiss gene list". Most people are looking for Swiss ancestors in Switzerland -- not the USA. The census affects USA genealogy and you are not looking at it from her viewpoint. Is that a fair statement? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> To: <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:16 AM Subject: RE: [SWITZ] Re: Census > It was rude of her. We are doing research and without the census we would > be know where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: C. J. Lisa [mailto:cjlisa@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 8:51 AM > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > How rude can you be? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> > To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 7:31 AM > Subject: FW: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > > > > Anna, > > > > It is called GENEALOGY. > > > > Get over it. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anna Rufer [mailto:rufer@xtra.co.nz] > > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 6:31 PM > > To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [SWITZ] Re: Census > > > > > > Folks - > > What has a present day (presumably USA) census got to do with a > Switzerland > > List?!!! > > I have just downloaded 24 messages regarding it, all of which cost me > money, > > & not the slightest bit relevant to my Swiss research from New Zealand!! > > Can we PLEASE keep to the subject! > > Apologies if I am out of order here but I am a tad frustrated! > > Regards, Anna > > > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Resource Site > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > > Swiss Resource Site > > http://swiss.genealogy.net > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Listers, I am looking for these names in my family tree. Any descendants, or anyone who may have any information, please contact me. Johann Fink and Rosina Hubler Gossliwil, Solothurn, Switzerland Urs Fink 1761 and Maria Mollet 1766 Urs Fink 1806 and Elisabeth Mollet 1813 Elisabeth Fink Anna Maria Fink 1846 and Fritz Houselmann m. 1877 Anna Barbara Fink 1850 and Benediks Marti m. 18876 Benediks Fink 1802 and Elisabeth Henzi 1808 Johann Fink 1840 and Anna Maria Stuber 1840 Adam Stuber and Elisabeth Rufer m. 1822 Alexander Fink and Louise Spahr m 1888 Alfred Fink and Carolina Rosina Maglin m 1888 Johann Fink and Henriette Christ m . 1897 Josef and Regina Saner 1825 Gerrie Lee Fink in NJ CHICKADEE2@AOL.COM researching: BEGLEY, BUHOFER,BALL,BLAUTH, BRASSINGTON, BLOOD,CHRIST,CHRISTEN, CLAY,COXON, COATES,CARTLIDGE,CARTWRIGHT,DUNCAN,ELDER,FINK,FOSKETT,HUBLER,HOUSELMANN,HENZI, LIEM, MOLLET,MARTI,MULLER,MAGLIN,MILLS,RUFER,STUBER,SCHUMACHER,SPAHR,SANER,SCHMIDT,S MITH,SCHINDLER,STERCHI,WILLIAMSON,YOUNG,ZURCHER.

Hi, I am new to the list and I am looking for Louisa Beera . She was born around 1868 possibly in Switzerland. She married Godfrey Kalin, they had a son named Meinrad. I am trying to locate Louisa in hopes I can find more out about her family. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you and have a great day!! Debbie Kaelin

Please take the topic off this list. However, withholding any information asked for in the Census 2000 short and long forms will result in a personal visit by the Census Bureau representative to your household. The questions asked are very relevant for the specific purposes and they are not released to anyone else for at least 75 years. The compiled information decide how much $$ for your community in form of additional community block grants, $ for your schools, for your community improvements, programs, senior citizens, libraries etc. for the next 10 years. So complete the form. Now take the topic off this list. This is only list of all lists I manage that had been hit by this topic extensively. W. David Samuelsen, listowner