Thanks, Ruth, for the info. The only thing I was able to achieve was to send his messages immediately to the Trash Bin. Our ISP (or their support team) is so weird that I'm not sure they'd have a clue as to how to block anything. Marjorie ---------- From: Ruth <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [SWITZ] vacation messages Date: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:58 PM He probably did not unsubscribe from this list while he is on vacation

And thank you, Hanneli, for this!! ---------- From: guy grenny <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [SWITZ] Happy Birthday, Switzerland! Date: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:19 PM Happy 711th Birthday to Switzerland! In 1291 on the Rütli Meadow our stalwart Swiss forefathers swore to once and for all get those Habsburg tyrants off their backs!!! Now if we were over there, we could have scanned the mountainous horizon for all those wonderful bonfires lit in celebration as today came to a close. Makes me homesick. "Oh mein Heimatland, oh mein Schweizerland - wie so innig, feurig lieb' ich Dich!...... How does it go, Walter? Hanneli NB. There is a wonderful account written by K. Augustiny about Switzerland's early history: http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/history.html Browse around a little in celebration of this day and our common ancestors who were rather brave. Its very well written and easy to read. ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html to unsubscribe

Hanneli, Thank you so very much for sending this message!! Daniel's repeat messages were driving me batty. Let's hope he's checking his e-mail while he's on vacation. August 9th is 8 days and how many more messages away?! Thanks! Marjorie ---------- From: guy grenny <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [SWITZ] Please, Daniel, TAKE US ALL OFF YOUR ADDRESS LIST! Date: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:08 PM Dear Daniel, we all hope you (once again) have a wonderful vacation! We'll miss you, but much less than you think! ....unless you do us the favor of deleting all our addresses from your address list while you're gone! You must have it on "automatic" of some sort - and maybe you are not aware that you are inadverdantly filling up our mailboxes over and over with your same "vacation announcement". Another useful thing would be to "discontinue the List" while you're gone. Click on : http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html just write "unsubscribe" (without "quotes) in the "subject. That'll do the trick. Have a great summer! Hanneli ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Hunziker <[email protected]> To: guy grenny <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: AW: [SWITZ] Happy Birthday, Switzerland! > I'm on vacation from july 15th until august 9th. > > > Kind regards, > Daniel Hunziker ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html to unsubscribe

Dear Daniel, we all hope you (once again) have a wonderful vacation! We'll miss you, but much less than you think! ....unless you do us the favor of deleting all our addresses from your address list while you're gone! You must have it on "automatic" of some sort - and maybe you are not aware that you are inadverdantly filling up our mailboxes over and over with your same "vacation announcement". Another useful thing would be to "discontinue the List" while you're gone. Click on : http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html just write "unsubscribe" (without "quotes) in the "subject. That'll do the trick. Have a great summer! Hanneli ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Hunziker <[email protected]> To: guy grenny <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: AW: [SWITZ] Happy Birthday, Switzerland! > I'm on vacation from july 15th until august 9th. > > > Kind regards, > Daniel Hunziker

Happy 711th Birthday to Switzerland! In 1291 on the Rütli Meadow our stalwart Swiss forefathers swore to once and for all get those Habsburg tyrants off their backs!!! Now if we were over there, we could have scanned the mountainous horizon for all those wonderful bonfires lit in celebration as today came to a close. Makes me homesick. "Oh mein Heimatland, oh mein Schweizerland - wie so innig, feurig lieb' ich Dich!...... How does it go, Walter? Hanneli NB. There is a wonderful account written by K. Augustiny about Switzerland's early history: http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/history.html Browse around a little in celebration of this day and our common ancestors who were rather brave. Its very well written and easy to read.

Ralph, where is home for you? Have you ever searched your roots? Your Pfister family hails most likely from TUGGEN on the east end of the lake of Zurich. I believe it's Canton St. Gallen. Else it's Canton Schwyz. That does not imply he was not emigrating to the States from canton Bern, only that he was citizen from Tuggen! o.k.? Christian Pf. could have had the same grandparents as my principal teacher in high school way back in Switz., long, long, long ago! Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: [SWITZ] Emanuel Bach > Hillary, We may be able to suggest some sites that you may find some > info Concerning Emanuel & Maria Bach. Contact the Holmes Co historical > society in Ohio and they probably can help you. I was raised 6 > miles from Winesburg which is a small unincorporated village that sits > on top of a hill. My ggg grandfather, Christian Pfister, came from > Switzerland, canton Bern, in 1830 and bought a farm a few miles from > Winesburg. There is an old church there that may have some old church > records that you could get some info about Emanuel & Maria. There is > also an old church called,Swiss Church and graveyard, of which > Christian Pfister was a charter member. The grave yards may give you > some good info. Will keep trying to come up with some more help. Ralph > Miller > > . > > > > > > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Resource Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~chewgw > >

Listers.... I think I've figured out that every time I send a message to this list, I get this horrid repeat message from Daniel Hunziker. Any ideas of how I can block them? Thanks..... Marjorie Gallagher a computer novice

Paul & Joe... Thanks for replying. Any ideas of what's going on with these repeat messages? And any idea of who Daniel Hunziker is? Thanks.... Marjorie

Hillary, We may be able to suggest some sites that you may find some info Concerning Emanuel & Maria Bach. Contact the Holmes Co historical society in Ohio and they probably can help you. I was raised 6 miles from Winesburg which is a small unincorporated village that sits on top of a hill. My ggg grandfather, Christian Pfister, came from Switzerland, canton Bern, in 1830 and bought a farm a few miles from Winesburg. There is an old church there that may have some old church records that you could get some info about Emanuel & Maria. There is also an old church called,Swiss Church and graveyard, of which Christian Pfister was a charter member. The grave yards may give you some good info. Will keep trying to come up with some more help. Ralph Miller .

Listers, I've received this message 12 times now....has anyone else? Thanks... Marjorie ---------- From: Daniel Hunziker <[email protected]> To: R & M Gallagher <[email protected]> Subject: AW: [SWITZ] Germans to America Date: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:26 PM I'm on vacation from july 15th until august 9th. Kind regards, Daniel Hunziker

Listers, Am I the only one who's received Daniel's Hunziker's message about his being on vacation until sometime in August at least 7 times? Gee, I hope this doesn't mean a virus! My virus program hasn't detected anything but I'm beginning to wonder. Marjorie Gallagher

Thank you to all who responded to my question about the Germans to America volumes. At this point I think I'll order some microfilm for ships' passenger lists for 1850 and 1851 through our local FHC and see what I can find on those. I had good results once before when I did that.....I found Sebastian Wanderon listed as Sebastian Wanderer! No wonder I couldn't find him before that. Thanks again..... Marjorie Gallagher

Hilary, sorry to say I can't help you with this search. By submitting your query to [email protected] you are appealing to a wide network of helpers. Just watch and see! Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [SWITZ]Anker & knowing it all Dear Walter, I tried to look at the website for Anker and couldn't get it to load. Would you be kind enough to resend the site as I deleted it when I couldn't get it to work, thinking that it was somehow wrong. Oops. Since you had success, I see I was wrong. I'd love to see it. I simply could not resist your line about "knowing it all" as I've just started this quest and would like to find someone who does know more about accessing geneology info than I do. I'm trying to locate the parents of WILLHELM or william EMANUEL BACH. His 1st wife was Elizabeth possibly ALLEMAND and they had 2 children in BERN Elizabeth BACH born 1836, abt, and Lewis Bach b abt 1839. His 2nd wife was MARIA MAGDELIN RUFI b. abt 1826 in FRUITIGEN near BERN. I'm torn between sources for the birth of W. Emanuel BACH ( he seems to have used Emanuel more). LDS lists Emanuel married to Maria Magdelin Rufi, dying in OHIO in 1888( which matches my info and Bible) as having been born in Germany in 1836. Ancestry.com lists Bern 1803 for his birth. The 1st wife died, when exactly I do not know. Maria and Emanuel married in Ohio, Winesburg. Maria died in 1912 also in Ohio. They had Emanuel Jr., Eda Henryetta, Caroline, Peter, and a few other kids. Would you know how I can find out W.E. BAch's parents, PLEASE? The obvious family legend exits that we are descended from JS Bach; the boys of Maria and Emanuel did make claviers, I've been told. I would be very grateful for your help. Hilary [email protected]

Hilary, here is the lost entry. Did you tell us where you live? It is always interesting to know where the call for help is coming from. You are not giving away your identity by telling us where you live! Good luck in your search! Walter in Vancouver ----- Original Message ----- From: "guy grenny" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [SWITZ] Dietrich-Anker of Ins/BE Dear Melissa! Do you know that one of your Anker ancestors is Switzerland's most beloved painter? Albert ANKER b. 1 April 1831 in Ins/Anet, BE. ("Anet" is the french version of Ins, in case you stumble across it - since the village is in the bi-lingual region of Kt. Bern). Albert Anker died in 1910 at his house in Ins. Anker was born, grew up, lived and died in the same beautiful Bauernhaus (farmhouse) all his life - later raising his own family there. By clicking the following web you can visit Ins and his very home. He had his atelier in the attic room. You can visit the home by appt. - my bro. Felix and I touched the very brushes he had used. http://www.be.ch/cgi-bin/frameset.exe?http://www.be.ch/themen/links/ge meinden.html On this web go to "Gemeinden" (communities), click on "Ins". There is a brief history of the place, but in German alas (but for Anker I would study Greek!). So click on "Ortsplan" (place map). There you see numbered houses; Nr. 20 being the Ankerhaus. It is on Müntscherniergasse (notice the street name is a weird combination of Bernese Swissgerman dialect, frenchified. Typical of the region. On Albert Anker's 70th birthday, the Swiss Bundesrat ( Government) praised him as the quintessential painter of Swiss village life - the times, the people . As the beloved Swiss writer Jeremias Gotthelf described the lives and souls and conditions of the Swiss farmers of his days, so Albert Anker illustrated and preserved their stories through his paintings. To give a tiny glimpse of Anker's stalwart integrity - by necessity he accepted commissions from customers who wanted their portrait painted and right from the start put a nominal price of SFr. 100 (I think) as his flat fee. The more he painted the more famous he became - but he refused to raise his fee! It was a matter of principle with him. But his preferred subjects were the village children. He would pay schoolchildren to pose and they would hop on over from the old (still standing) village Schulhaus. Very precious. So much to tell and I've probably annoyed some listers - sorry. Would you believe I have an "Anker room" in my house - with my favorite art prints of his work ;-) There must be an Anker Association - but I don't know how to find it. You can find some links in the website. I have before me an Anker Book: crosscut of his bio. and many of his works. Albert Anker authors Sandor Kuthy and Hans A. Lüthy Orell Füssli Verlag Zürich, 1980 ISBN 3 280 01216 3 Greetings from Hanneli ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html to unsubscribe

Hello. Can some nice someone here do a lookup for Samuel L. Smith, Jr.? He was supposed to have emigrated from Switzerland to the US approximately 1819. I have some information that says he was born in Switzerland and a U. S. Census that says he was born in Germany. Any help would be vastly appreciated. Kathryn

In a message dated 8/1/2002 1:02:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > From info I've received from Christian Heilmann, I know that in 1851 Ann= > a Maria L=FCscher and her children Rudolf Henry (10), Samuel Godfrey (7),= > Maria Elizabeth (6), Anna Maria (4) and Charles Adolf (2) left Oberentfe= > lden and came to America. Traveling with them was a Margaritha L=FCscher. > > A reference library has informed me that the book Germans to America Volu= > me 2 May 1851-June 1852 shows all but Charles Adolf and Maria Elizabeth = > arriving in New York on the Patrick Henry in November 1851. > > I know the family all traveled together, so I'm puzzled as to why Charles= > Adolf and Maria Elizabeth don't show. Does anyone have any ideas, or ac= > cess to the volume to check it out for me? > Marjorie: "Germans to America" is a good source, but it does have somewhat of a reputation of not always being completely accurate. There is also the possibility that whoever wrote up the original passenger manifest missed members of the family. This happened in my case when my grandfather, who was 2 years old, was not listed with the rest of the family on the passenger list. Paul C. Miller

Sheri, I think there is a hint for his origin on the back of his marriage license, namely the word "Baron." In Swiss-German the name "Bern" sounds to English speakers like "Baron." So I think he was from the city or canton Bern. By the way, I've been looking at microfilms for Canton Solothurn. At the beginning of each item is a frame of information, including the name of the person who made the microfilm. "Alma Ryser" filmed about every one of those. I'm very grateful for her work. Judy > > On the back of his marriage license was written > " Dad Baron Swiss Rieser- Ryser" > I have lots of info on his life here, but the 23 years overseas are what I would like to know about now. There is no indication of where in Switzerland on his Dec of Intent, Naturalization Papers, Death Certificate, etc. > > Could someone help, offer suggestions, as to where to go next? Without a city or Canton, what approach should I try?

In a message dated 7/31/02 6:11:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > >From info I've received from Christian Heilmann, I know that in 1851 Anna > Maria Lüscher and her children Rudolf Henry (10), Samuel Godfrey (7), Maria > Elizabeth (6), Anna Maria (4) and Charles Adolf (2) left Oberentfelden and > came to America. From the CD "Germans to America" 1850-1874 [Broderbund Family Archive #355, Ed. 1, Passenger and Immigration Lists: Germans to America, 1850-1874, Date of Import: 31 Jul 2002, Internal Ref. #1.355.1.13221.6] Passenger's Name: Charles Heilmann Age: 2 Occupation: Child Last Residence: Hessen Darmstadt Final Destination: New Orleans Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Manifest ID Number: 00018132 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage Bill Wells [email protected] Have a nice Day :-) Researching: WELLS, England > Canada > MI FLEMMING, Prussia > MI DUEWEKE, KOENIG, Germany > MI MERO/MEREAU/AMIREAU/AMIRAULT, France > Canada > MI PETIPREN/PETITPREN/PETIPRIN/PETITPRIN, Switzerland > MI

I forgot to mention that the reference librarian could find no listing for Rudolf Haberstich who left Oberentfelden in the summer of 1850. Are there known errors or omissions in these volumes? Thanks.... Marjorie

Listers... >From info I've received from Christian Heilmann, I know that in 1851 Anna Maria Lüscher and her children Rudolf Henry (10), Samuel Godfrey (7), Maria Elizabeth (6), Anna Maria (4) and Charles Adolf (2) left Oberentfelden and came to America. Traveling with them was a Margaritha Lüscher. A reference library has informed me that the book Germans to America Volume 2 May 1851-June 1852 shows all but Charles Adolf and Maria Elizabeth arriving in New York on the Patrick Henry in November 1851. I know the family all traveled together, so I'm puzzled as to why Charles Adolf and Maria Elizabeth don't show. Does anyone have any ideas, or access to the volume to check it out for me? Thanks.... Marjorie Gallagher