Sam, according to the SwissFamiliennamenbuch, SCHOTT families held citizenship prior to 1799 in 3 Kanton Bern communities: Kappelen, BE Lengnau, BE Meinisberg, BE *) (in 1989 there were still SCHOTT familie(s) living in those communities. Swiss genealogist Julius Billetter did research on the SCHOTT family of Meinisberg, BE. Below is the microfilm number you can order and view at you local LDS Family History Center. Since this is handy, it might be worth checking out. If it fits your family, you're in luck..... even though you have to verify all the information, of course. Julius Billetter usually copied out all records of a particular name in their given hometown. It seems to me that the SCHOTT name is much more prevalent in Germany. How about it, Wolf? Good luck!Hanneli Title Schott family of Meinisberg, Bern, Switzerland Authors Billeter, Julius , 1869-1957 (Main Author) Note Location Film Schott family of Meinisberg, Bern, Switzerland FHL INTL Film 422448 Item 1

Hi Researchers, I hope this can be posted here, don't know how to reach my ancestoral family. There is to be a 75th reunion of the Cevio, Ticino families of FILIPPINI in Napa, California on June 25th, 2005. If you believe you are of this decent, please contact me OFF LIST, but at the e-mail address listed above and I will be happy to send you an invitation to the reunion. We hope to have a good turn out as its been 25+ yrs since the last event. I have a list of 350 - 2nd generation, but can't find but 40 of them. Thank you. ~Linda~ Hawkins Bar, CA.

> Von: Santiago Schuler [mailto:stgoschulercl@yahoo.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Mai 2005 03:54 > > Hello: > Could anyone help me translating the following text into > spanish or english. > Thank You > Santiago Schuler. > > Volkemer Geschlechter > > Die ältesten Geschlechter der Gemeinde sind die Keller > (erwähnt erstmals 1313) The oldest families of the community are the Keller (first mentioned 1313) > und die Saler, heute Saller GeheiBen (1317). and the Saler, nowadays spelled (direct translation: named) Saller (1317). What you read as "B" is a "sharp s" (looks like the Greek Beta: ß). If that character is not available or not convenient (I would e.g. not use it in e-mails) it can be replaced by "ss", i.e. "geheissen". > Es folgen Ritzmann (1393), Müller (1398, Erb (1422), Gisler > (1562) und Schuler (1634). They are followed by ... > Für 1459 sind in Volken lediglich zwei Steuerpflichtige > verzeichnet: Hensli Keller und Klewi Saler. For 1459 only 2 tax payers are listed: ... > 1671 werden 23 Haushaltungen bei insgesamt etwa 300 > Einwohnern gemeldet: In 1671 23 households with about 300 inhabitants all together are noted: neun = 9 sechs = 6 drei = 3 je eine = 1 each > neun Ritzmann, sechs Keller, drei Buri, je eine Gisler, > Saler, Christen, Frey und Müller. > 1792 zählt die Gemeinde 56 Haushaltungen: In 1792 56 housholds are counted: zehn = 10 sieben = 7 fuenf = 5 vier = 4 je zwei = 2 each > zehn Familien Schuler, neun Keller, sieben Gisler, fünf > ritzmann, fünf Frei, vier Saler, vier Kündig, je zwei Erb, > Kramer, Morgen, je eine Familie Werdmüller, Arbenz, Wartmann, > Güttinger, Rüegg und Wesener. > Verschwunden sind heute die alten Geschlechter der Widmer, Now extinct are the old families of the Widmer, ....., which had been living in Volken at earlier times. > Hagenbach, Suter, Peter, Mittler, Flacher, Wismer, Burger, > Windenmann, Israel, Schneider, Weber, Buri, Werdmüller, Hatt, > Christen, Frey und Kündig, die einst in Volken ansässig waren. > > Thank you again for the help, almost all the names mentioned > are related to my family. Good luck with your further research - Wolf

I am new to the list. I am researching ancestors from Basel and the surounding area named BLIND and HOFFMANN. They mostly seem to have worked in silk weaving and dying. Carl Blind, my Great Grandfather came to America in 1893 at the age of 38 with his second wife Lydia and children Adolf, Adele (my grandmother) and Paul. His first wife, the childrens' mother was a HOFFMANN but I don't know her first name. They moved to College Point Queens and worked at various silk mills there. They lived with a Gottfried Hoffman who was a brother in law when they first got here. I have also found a Rudolph Hoffmann and a Jacob Hoffmann all silk workers and from Basel and working in silk mills, that are probably releated in some way. If anyone is researching families that were silk workers I have a copy of the 1923 guide to the silk industry in the US. It was useful in finding what cities had ribbon mills. It helped me in locating Lydia Blind, and Gottfried and Elsie Hoffmann in 1930 after the College Point mill layed them off. My father's family, the LAUNS were from Worms Germany. My great granmother on that side was also a HOFFMANN from Basel. My grandparents were first cousins and met when my grandfather who was in the German merchant marine was in the port of NY and visited relatives while on leave. Is anyone researching HOFFMANN's or BLINDS or people connected with the silk industry? I haven't gotten back to records in Basel yet and would appreciate any help people could give in that area. Charles C Laun

Hello: Could anyone help me translating the following text into spanish or english. Thank You Santiago Schuler. Volkemer Geschlechter Die ältesten Geschlechter der Gemeinde sind die Keller (erwähnt erstmals 1313) und die Saler, heute Saller GeheiBen (1317). Es folgen Ritzmann (1393), Müller (1398, Erb (1422), Gisler (1562) und Schuler (1634). Für 1459 sind in Volken lediglich zwei Steuerpflichtige verzeichnet: Hensli Keller und Klewi Saler. 1671 werden 23 Haushaltungen bei insgesamt etwa 300 Einwohnern gemeldet: neun Ritzmann, sechs Keller, drei Buri, je eine Gisler, Saler, Christen, Frey und Müller. 1792 zählt die Gemeinde 56 Haushaltungen: zehn Familien Schuler, neum Keller, sieben Gisler, fünf ritzmann, fünf Frei, vier Saler, vier Kündig, je zwei Erb, Kramer, Morgen, je eine Familie Werdmüller, Arbenz, Wartmann, Güttinger, Rüegg und Wesener. Verschwunden sind heute die alten Geschlechter der Widmer, Hagenbach, Suter, Peter, Mittler, Flacher, Wismer, Burger, Windenmann, Israel, Schneider, Weber, Buri, Werdmüller, Hatt, Christen, Frey und Kündig, die einst in Volken ansässig waren. Thank you again for the help, almost all the names mentioned are related to my family. ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

> Von: Donna Osborn [mailto:dosborn@pldi.net] > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. April 2005 03:48 > > I have papers that say my family with the spelling of these > name that immigrated to Pennsylvania lived in the Cantons > Berne and Lucerne. It goes on to say they came from Berne in > the following places Buren, Fraubrunuen, Konoffingen, Nidou, > Singauan and Thun in this Canton. Does anyone know of this > surname in these area and can someone tell me where these > located . These names of places were spelled just like I > spelled them on this emaile. My Stoffer's ended up in Ohio. Stauffer is the only of these spellings with citizenships in canton Bern - there it is quite common, though, with citizenships prior to 1800 in: Baetterkinden, Bern, Brienzwiler, Busswil bei Bueren, Eggiwil, Grafenried, Homberg, Horrenbach-Buchen, Landiswil, Leuzigen, Linden, Oberwil bei Bueren, Roethenbach im Emmental, Rueti bei Bueren, Safnern, Schwendibach, Signau, Sigriswil, Steffisburg, Teuffenthal, Zauggenried. This list also corrects a couple of your place nemaes spellings: Bueren (ue indicating an u-umlaut) and Signau. The other places will most likely be Fraubrunnen, Konolfingen, Nidau - with Thun being a correct spelling. Spellings in other cantons include Staufer, Stofer and Stoffer - with the following mentions in canton Luzern: Stauffer Beromünster Stofer Malters Stofer Schwarzenberg Stoffer Neudorf Good luck with your further research - Wolf __________________ Wolf Seelentag, Ph.D. Reherstr. 19 CH - 9016 St.Gallen +41 (0) 71 - 288 51 21 wolf.seelentag@swissonline.ch

I have papers that say my family with the spelling of these name that immigrated to Pennsylvania lived in the Cantons Berne and Lucerne. It goes on to say they came from Berne in the following places Buren, Fraubrunuen, Konoffingen, Nidou, Singauan and Thun in this Canton. Does anyone know of this surname in these area and can someone tell me where these located . THese names of places were spelled just like I spelled them on this emaile. My Stoffer's ended up in Ohio.

> Von: Anne McAllister [mailto:awmcallister@charter.net] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. April 2005 15:42 > > Please could someone help me with a researcher in Canton Aargau? > > I need records from Kirchdorf in Canton Aargau, from where > the Schneider families emigrated.. > > I would be grateful for this information. > > Anne McAllister > Hickory, North Carolina The Swiss Genealogical Society keeps a list of professionals with their regions of expertise - ask their "Central Information Office": http://swiss.genealogy.net/ver/chausk-e.htm Best regards - Wolf __________________ Wolf Seelentag, Ph.D. Reherstr. 19 CH - 9016 St.Gallen +41 (0) 71 - 288 51 21 wolf.seelentag@swissonline.ch

Please could someone help me with a researcher in Canton Aargau? I need records from Kirchdorf in Canton Aargau, from where the Schneider families emigrated.. I would be grateful for this information. Anne McAllister Hickory, North Carolina

Thank you, Wolf, for the very informative answer to my question regarding the Familienshein process. It certainly is complicated, isn't it? Would you happen to know whether their are English speakers in these offices or whether it is necessary to make the request in German? I do have a friend who speaks the language, although she is Bavarian rather than Swiss. As for Thurgau, I do believe that the Familienschein exists for the WEBER family. With a copy of John WEBER's military papers in hand, I visited the area in 1990. The town of his birth was listed as Heldswil/Hohentannen and I arrived there to learn that these were two separate towns, a couple of kilometers apart. After walking from one to the other, I landed in Hohentannen and managed to locate an English speaker (with my limited German) who called the "mayor" and directed me toward living relatives who I've since remained in contact with. I can only guess that the Familienschein was used to trace forward to the current generations. I also learned that the family owned a farm that is situated somewhat between these two towns. The area is known as Holzergeten (although I might be misspelling that) and is literally just a few buildings and farms. I know much less about THOMA and will definitely contact Wilhelm Eberhard. Thank you for that information as well as the email addresses to the offices in Hohentannen and Amden. Are you using the Family Book to locate the citizenship locations? Thank you so much for your help! Shelly > Von: Cltiv8tr@aol.com [mailto:Cltiv8tr@aol.com] > Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2005 21:19 > [...] > I'd like to obtain a Familienschein on these two individuals > and have read the info at Swiss Genealogy on the Internet. > Wow! Is it really 100 SF ($84 USD) to obtain this? One > notation says only $10 - $30, but another link appears to > suggest it is 100 SF. Which is correct? Unfortunately the information ($10...30) given on http://swiss.genealogy.net/intro-e.htm#schein is out of date - for two reasons: 1. Fees are now fixed by a Federal Ordinance - and higher than they used to be, at least in many cantons. 2. Officially you have to get a cantonal permission to request a Familienschein nowadays - it's no longer at the discretion of the community civil regsitry office - and that means an additional fee (apart from the paper work). Fees are listed on http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/172_042_110/app1.html (not available in English) and are - basic fee sfr 25 (which includes the husband) - per capita fee sfr 5 So a married couple would be sfr 30 plus 4 parents(-in-law) 4 x sfr 5 = sfr 20 From here on it depends on the number of children - sfr 5 for each of them - could easily add up to a total of sfr 100. Then there is the fee for the cantonal permission - this is (within a range) left to the canton, according to http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/172_042_110/app2.html and comes up to sfr 20 ... 200: the amounts I have heard quoted most often were sfr 50...80. So this is an expensive enterprise: I'm just reporting - NOT defending it !! I apologise for the confusion caused by the outdated info on the above SwissGen page - it's on the list of pages to be updated, I just don't get around to do it :-((. > What sort of documentation must be provided to prove > relationship? I have the Swiss military papers of my > g-grandfather which may help, but what else might they want? I always recommend to contact the corresponding civil registry office, and enquire whether they can identify your ancestor on their register - otherwise you might risk getting a cantonal permission (and pay for it) - but get no Familienschein, because your ancestor cannot be identified. At the same time, ask what they expect from you before they issue the Familienschein; let me word it carefully - interpretation of the Ordinance might differ from office to office ;-). WEBER gained citizenship of Heldswil as late as 1878 (originally from Maseltrangen - which would be St.Gallen). The office responsible for Heldswil is the one in Hohentannen: gemeinde@hohentannen.ch. THOMA have been citizens of Amden since before 1800 - the person to contact would be: cornelia.bless@amden.ch. But if I were you, I would contact Wilhelm Eberhard first - you'll find him mentioned for Amden on http://swiss.genealogy.net/conregsg.htm Good luck with your research, and best regards - Wolf

> Von: Cltiv8tr@aol.com [mailto:Cltiv8tr@aol.com] > Gesendet: Montag, 25. April 2005 21:19 > [...] > I'd like to obtain a Familienschein on these two individuals > and have read the info at Swiss Genealogy on the Internet. > Wow! Is it really 100 SF ($84 USD) to obtain this? One > notation says only $10 - $30, but another link appears to > suggest it is 100 SF. Which is correct? Unfortunately the information ($10...30) given on http://swiss.genealogy.net/intro-e.htm#schein is out of date - for two reasons: 1. Fees are now fixed by a Federal Ordinance - and higher than they used to be, at least in many cantons. 2. Officially you have to get a cantonal permission to request a Familienschein nowadays - it's no longer at the discretion of the community civil regsitry office - and that means an additional fee (apart from the paper work). Fees are listed on http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/172_042_110/app1.html (not available in English) and are - basic fee sfr 25 (which includes the husband) - per capita fee sfr 5 So a married couple would be sfr 30 plus 4 parents(-in-law) 4 x sfr 5 = sfr 20 From here on it depends on the number of children - sfr 5 for each of them - could easily add up to a total of sfr 100. Then there is the fee for the cantonal permission - this is (within a range) left to the canton, according to http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/172_042_110/app2.html and comes up to sfr 20 ... 200: the amounts I have heard quoted most often were sfr 50...80. So this is an expensive enterprise: I'm just reporting - NOT defending it !! I apologise for the confusion caused by the outdated info on the above SwissGen page - it's on the list of pages to be updated, I just don't get around to do it :-((. > What sort of documentation must be provided to prove > relationship? I have the Swiss military papers of my > g-grandfather which may help, but what else might they want? I always recommend to contact the corresponding civil registry office, and enquire whether they can identify your ancestor on their register - otherwise you might risk getting a cantonal permission (and pay for it) - but get no Familienschein, because your ancestor cannot be identified. At the same time, ask what they expect from you before they issue the Familienschein; let me word it carefully - interpretation of the Ordinance might differ from office to office ;-). WEBER gained citizenship of Heldswil as late as 1878 (originally from Maseltrangen - which would be St.Gallen). The office responsible for Heldswil is the one in Hohentannen: gemeinde@hohentannen.ch. THOMA have been citizens of Amden since before 1800 - the person to contact would be: cornelia.bless@amden.ch. But if I were you, I would contact Wilhelm Eberhard first - you'll find him mentioned for Amden on http://swiss.genealogy.net/conregsg.htm Good luck with your research, and best regards - Wolf __________________ Wolf Seelentag, Ph.D. Reherstr. 19 CH - 9016 St.Gallen +41 (0) 71 - 288 51 21 wolf.seelentag@swissonline.ch

Hello and Guten Tag! I'm new to this list, and largely new to Swiss family research. I am researching the following families: 1. Johann Martin WEBER, born Heldwil/Hohentannen (Holtzergeten), Canton Thurgau, Switzerland in 1878. "John" was the son of Johann WEBER and Maria Elizabetha HUGENTOBLER. His siblings include: Marie Mathilde Karl Ida Otto John moved to Illinois, USA about 1903 and died in St. David, Fulton, Illinois, USA in 1929. All other family members remained in Switzerland. 2. Emma Ida THOMA, born July 27, 1876 in probably Amden, St. Gallen, Switzerland. She moved to the USA about 1903 and married John WEBER in 1905. She died in California, USA in 1959. Her sibling includes: Walter J. THOMA, born Oct. 30, 1879 in Amden, St. Gallen, Switzerland and died in California, USA in 1969. His Social Security application identifies his mother's surname as JOSEPH. I'd like to obtain a Familienschein on these two individuals and have read the info at Swiss Genealogy on the Internet. Wow! Is it really 100 SF ($84 USD) to obtain this? One notation says only $10 - $30, but another link appears to suggest it is 100 SF. Which is correct? What sort of documentation must be provided to prove relationship? I have the Swiss military papers of my g-grandfather which may help, but what else might they want? Thanks for any help. I look forward to learning! Shelly

Go to www.pictonpress.com - they have some. They also have ahuge collection of church book records on CDs. Aalso try www.alibris.com. Actually, go to a library and search the data bases for other libraries and get them on inter-library loan. A good start is the children's non-fiction section - the 917's or thereabouts - good basic info. If you have a large library, try the adult section. Old Baedecker's travel books had a wealth of info. A college library often lets you check out books for an annual fee of $50 or less and opens up a huge world of college libraries. There is a lot less than for say England or Germany, sigh - good hunting. Marlena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Osborn" <dosborn@pldi.net> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: [SWITZ] Switzerland Books > Does any one know of some books I can read about Switzerland and the Bern > Canton region. I would like to find someone that knows of some good books > to read on this are which tell about the region, culture, landmarks, > history, goverment. > > Donna Osborn > > > ==== SWITZERLAND Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Gone longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CHE/SWITZERLAND.html > to unsubscribe > nothing in message > >

A History of Switzerland by James Murray Luck. Try one of the used book websites like bookfinder. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Osborn" <dosborn@pldi.net> To: <SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Switzerland Books > Does any one know of some books I can read about Switzerland and the Bern > Canton region. I would like to find someone that knows of some good books > to read on this are which tell about the region, culture, landmarks, > history, goverment. > > Donna Osborn >

Does any one know of some books I can read about Switzerland and the Bern Canton region. I would like to find someone that knows of some good books to read on this are which tell about the region, culture, landmarks, history, goverment. Donna Osborn

When would be the best time to visit the Allemendigen and Gurzelen area in Canton Bern, Switzerland. Is it flat of mountains. Some one showed me a picture and it looks flat. Would like to more about this area for vataction. Donna Osborn

Could Keller have been Kelker? I know there is a book on this Swiss family in LDS Family History Center.

Hello To a few questions I can answer. 1. -. You have to ask the archivists in the State Archive of the Canton Zurich. 2. Normally John (Johannes) Keller couldn't be a catholic. But if Verena Kilingerfuss was catholic, their children might be also catholics. The people in Ober- und Unter-Stammheim, Canton Zurich, are in this time all protestants and in these two places, there were no catholic churches and also no catholic records. 3. I think, Kilingerfuss isn't a Swixx, pardon, Swiss Surname. Regards Erich Trösch >-- Original-Nachricht -- >From: "Evelyn W." <ewicke@gvec.net> >Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:07:53 -0500 >To: SWITZERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SWITZ] John (Johanns) J. Keller - Zurich bn. about 1795/1796 > > >I have found a John (Johannes) Keller in the International Genealogical >Index at Family Search, born 110/1796 in Stanheim (or Stammheim, Zurich, > >Switzerland. I can find nothing anywhere on the net on the name >Kilingerfuss. How should I go about connecting the children below to this > >couple? > >1. Is there a register of emigrations from Zurich, and would they be in > >that city, or the village of Stammheim? >2. They were Cathoic. Would the Catholc church in Stammheim have a record > >of the chilren's birth and name the parents? >3. Is the name Kilingerfuss a Swixx-German name? What other spelling might > >be likely > >Death certificate of ggfather says parents are John J. KELLER and Verena > >KILINGERFUSS Another source says ggfather came from a "small town"near >Zurich." > >What I know: 1845 Joseph Keller in Memphis, Tennessee - 25 yrs. old, born > >Switzerland, est. date 1820. > > Ann Marie Elizabeth Keller (called Elizabeth) came > >to Memphis to visit brother Joseph in >1856, born 9/251839 in Switzerland. > > George Keller - Believed to be a brother of Joseph. >First known to be in Memphis 1860. Born September 9, 1828.

I am researching Bannholzer, Von Bergen, Neiger, Roth, Kohler, Werren, Naegeli, Abplanalp, and lateral familites. http://www.citlink.net/~roberta/Roberta's%20Family%20Tree.htm

I have found a John (Johannes) Keller in the International Genealogical Index at Family Search, born 110/1796 in Stanheim (or Stammheim, Zurich, Switzerland. I can find nothing anywhere on the net on the name Kilingerfuss. How should I go about connecting the children below to this couple? 1. Is there a register of emigrations from Zurich, and would they be in that city, or the village of Stammheim? 2. They were Cathoic. Would the Catholc church in Stammheim have a record of the chilren's birth and name the parents? 3. Is the name Kilingerfuss a Swixx-German name? What other spelling might be likely Death certificate of ggfather says parents are John J. KELLER and Verena KILINGERFUSS Another source says ggfather came from a "small town"near Zurich." What I know: 1845 Joseph Keller in Memphis, Tennessee - 25 yrs. old, born Switzerland, est. date 1820. Ann Marie Elizabeth Keller (called Elizabeth) came to Memphis to visit brother Joseph in 1856, born 9/251839 in Switzerland. George Keller - Believed to be a brother of Joseph. First known to be in Memphis 1860. Born September 9, 1828.