> Please let me know if you this if you get it legible Bob Thanks > > Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 > > The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Popul?r" shows him going to Chicago. > > Efternamn: VELANDER > F?rnamn: JOH AUG > ?lder: 31 K?n: M > F?dd: 1875/1876 > F?rsamling: GILLBERGA L?n: S > Titel/Anm: > Utresehamn: G?TEBORG > Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 > Destination: CHICAGO ILL. > Med?kande: NEJ > K?llkod: 84:461:7049 > > > "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" > > Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. > > Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? > > http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc > > I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? > > http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Judy, > > I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? > > Naomi in Illinois > --------------------------------------- > > judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 > > Hi Naomi, > > "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" > > No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. > > "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" > > Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near L?ngserud parish. Look in the S?FFLE section of the following map. > > http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 > > Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? > > Record 2188743 > > Velander, Johan August > Inhyses > > b. 1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) > > Boy > > Kohls?ter. > Gillberga (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) > > Place of birth (original source): L?ngserud > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 -0600 > From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAL_5GSrF7wnrUJ_YFF_JaUZzZ7X4ez6YtNA+rbqjp6f1yJpHXQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Naomi, > > According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep > 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being > from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these > cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person > named usually filled them out themselves. > > Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. > > > Regards, > Brian > > . > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:17 PM, <judymo73b@comcast.net> wrote: >> Hi Naomi, >> >> I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in L?ngserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Asps?ter S?dra, Gillberga parish, V?rmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. >> >> DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": >> >> 18760927-621 >> >> Vellander, Johan August >> >> Asps?ter S?dra 1:2 >> >> Dead 2/8/1956. >> >> Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). >> >> Born 9/27/1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). >> >> Widower (11/25/1912). >> -------------- >> Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: >> Gillberga, S?ffle kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) >> >> Parish of birth in the records: >> L?ngserud (V?rmland) >> >> Source records: >> DB, FS / DOR 52-60 >> >> >> Emibas CD: >> >> The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. >> >> Post 780631 >> >> Velander, Johan August >> Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) >> >> b. 9/27/1876 >> >> Emigrated 8/16/1907 >> from K?ls?ter, Gillberga, V?rmlands l?n (V?rmland) >> to Nordamerika >> >> Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 >> >> Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 >> >> The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Popul?r" shows him going to Chicago. >> >> Efternamn: VELANDER >> F?rnamn: JOH AUG >> ?lder: 31 K?n: M >> F?dd: 1875/1876 >> F?rsamling: GILLBERGA L?n: S >> Titel/Anm: >> Utresehamn: G?TEBORG >> Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 >> Destination: CHICAGO ILL. >> Med?kande: NEJ >> K?llkod: 84:461:7049 >> >> >> "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" >> >> Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. >> >> Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? >> >> http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc >> >> I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? >> >> http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy >> >> >> Judy >> Orland Park, Illinois >> Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Hi Judy, >> >> I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? >> >> Naomi in Illinois >> --------------------------------------- >> >> judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 >> >> Hi Naomi, >> >> "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" >> >> No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. >> >> "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" >> >> Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near L?ngserud parish. Look in the S?FFLE section of the following map. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 >> >> Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? >> >> Record 2188743 >> >> Velander, Johan August >> Inhyses >> >> b. 1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) >> >> Boy >> >> Kohls?ter. >> Gillberga (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) >> >> Place of birth (original source): L?ngserud >> >> >> Judy >> Orland Park, Illinois >> Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:32:39 -0600 (CST) > From: Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <454419000.9292761354933959038.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs10> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Judy, > > This is the Johan August Velander that I have followed and he is the wrong person. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for came to the US in 1897 and was living in DeKalb, IL when he applied for a marriage license on 9 Aug 1898 so that he could marry Tilda Johnson. Her full name was Johanna Mathilda Gustafson. He went by John Welander in the US and then later I find his surname spelled Wellander. John Welander and his wife died in 1939 in DeKalb, IL. > > Naomi in Illinois > -------------------------------------------- > > judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:51 > > Hi Naomi, > > I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in L?ngserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Asps?ter S?dra, Gillberga parish, V?rmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. > > DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": > > 18760927-621 > > Vellander, Johan August > > Asps?ter S?dra 1:2 > > Dead 2/8/1956. > > Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). > > Born 9/27/1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). > > Widower (11/25/1912). > -------------- > Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: > Gillberga, S?ffle kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) > > Parish of birth in the records: > L?ngserud (V?rmland) > > Source records: > DB, FS / DOR 52-60 > > > Emibas CD: > > The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. > > Post 780631 > > Velander, Johan August > Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) > > b. 9/27/1876 > > Emigrated 8/16/1907 > from K?ls?ter, Gillberga, V?rmlands l?n (V?rmland) > to Nordamerika > > Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 > > Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 > > The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Popul?r" shows him going to Chicago. > > Efternamn: VELANDER > F?rnamn: JOH AUG > ?lder: 31 K?n: M > F?dd: 1875/1876 > F?rsamling: GILLBERGA L?n: S > Titel/Anm: > Utresehamn: G?TEBORG > Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 > Destination: CHICAGO ILL. > Med?kande: NEJ > K?llkod: 84:461:7049 > > > "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" > > Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. > > Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? > > http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc > > I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? > > http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:36:57 -0600 (CST) > From: Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <865676289.9293081354934217711.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs10> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Brian, > > Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. > > Naomi in Illinois > ---------------------------------- > > Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 > > Naomi, > > According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep > 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being > from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these > cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person > named usually filled them out themselves. > > Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. > > > Regards, > Brian > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 21:06:47 -0600 > From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAL_5GSonus_cZJp7veBO-WY7fnL4zV1Jh_abpbO98fQ4JBE2gw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hopefully it'll get you somewhere. He's the same guy you referenced > in the 1900 census (address on the draft card matches his 1920 address > in the census). I don't know why I didn't think of Halland. I just > saw Holland and locked that into my brain. > > Regards, > Brian > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >> Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. >> >> Naomi in Illinois >> ---------------------------------- >> >> Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 >> >> Naomi, >> >> According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep >> 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being >> from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these >> cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person >> named usually filled them out themselves. >> >> Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. >> >> >> Regards, >> Brian >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SWEDEN list administrator, send an email to > SWEDEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SWEDEN mailing list, send an email to SWEDEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SWEDEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 569 > **************************************