For anyone who wants to try and answer Karsten's questions, here is the link to Hanna's birth Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 214 / sid 419 (AID: v95953.b214.s419, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) And here is the link to the HFL at her birth showing her parents and Ingerd Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Bild 267 / sid 260 (AID: v95930.b267.s260, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karsten Kuske Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Hej, Hello and searching for ancestors in Blekinge Hej and Hello, my name is Karsten (Kuske), I´m from Germany and I try to find my ancestors in Sweden. What do I know: My 3-greatgrandmother´s name was Hanna NILSSON * 14. March 1855 in Olofstöms kommun (maybe in Farabol, maybe in Jämshög) Emigrated to Germany oo 10. April 1877 in Curau, Schleswig-Holstein to Johann Christian Cristoph Dahlmann from Schleswig-Holstein (today the district of Curau is part of the parish of Stockelsdorf in the county of Ostholstein, state of Schleswig-Holstein, in the 19th century (from 1866 on) it was part of the principality of Lübeck) + 10. January 1934 in Bad Schwartau, Schleswig-Holstein Her parents are Nils NILSSON Sissa HÅKANSDOTTER (a with o above). Evidence/Sources already known: Birth: Proof of Ancestry from my Grandfather; Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/7 (1849-1867)); Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/5 (1828-1857)); corresponding data from DSSS; >From these records it can be read that the family lived in Farabol (property-no. 120) and that Hanna was baptized in Jämshögs kyrka (I know that Farabol moved to Kyrkhults försammling somewhen in the 1860´s). I do have some evidence about the date she emigrated to Germany: >From the Migrationsregistret: Her “person-ID” is I11329. 24. April 1871 from Falsehult, she´s mentioned as torparedotter (which corresponds with the baptismal entry: Nils is a torpare). Returning in 1874. Another entry states: Person-ID I11330, moving out on 3. April 1876 (again to Germany), as “bonddotter” from Björkefall, and no return is mentioned. Both entries states that she went alone. But: In both sources her name is “Johanna NilsDOTTER”, but the birthdate and birthplace is the same as from “my” Hanna - Jämshög. I have found NO entry for a Johanna Nilsdotter born 14. March 1855 in Jämshögs försammling… >From the “In-och Utflyttnings-Längd för Kyrkhult, Svenska Church >Records Kyrkhult/Blekinge 1865-1887” I have the information that a maid (piga) Hanna Nilsdotter moved out to Schleswig on 26. August 1867. Another puzzling item is: >From Jämshögs and Kyrkhults Church Books I have evidence, that she had >some siblings. Name of the parents fit, also some places where the parents/family lived at the time of birth of the siblings: In chronological order: 1854, 1855 in Farabol, 1864 in Mulantorp, 1867, 1871 in Falshult. The father´s occupation changes between torpare and bonde. What strikes me is that the age of the mover “jumps wildly around” – given, that I can read the entries from the church books correctly… Her siblings names are/could be (also in chronological order): Ingerd (older than Hanna), Ola, Jöns (who died 1/2 day after his birth), Bengta. So, now I do have lots of questions and I really need some help, as my Swedish-skills are far below of what I would need to find my way on my own through archives, websites etc. In the documents, where her family name is stated (these are mostly German), it´s NilsSON. The only Swedish document I found (the Migrationsregistret and the Flyttnings-Längd) says NilsDOTTER. I know a bit about the system of Swedish (family)names (the patronymic system), but it changed somewhen – when? How reliably are the data ref. to the age of the mother given in the parish registers for the children? Is the person-ID unique or could it be that it changed? And lots more… So, in short and overall: Is there anyone who is familiar with ancestry research in Blekinge (and for further in Kronoberg and Skane) and able to help me? Esp. how to proceed from Hanna, continuing with her parents (how to find s.th. about Nils and Sissa, only knowing the names?). Or to give me some help finding my way through Swedish websites (thank God many of them offer English information…) or a direct contact? Any help is welcome. Thanks a lot and tack så mycket fran Tyskland, Karsten ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's some more links. Sissa's birth record with her parents Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 30 / sid 51 (AID: v95953.b30.s51, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) Nils and Sissa marriage Jämshög EI:2 (1852-1873) Bild 15 / sid 11 (AID: v95961.b15.s11, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) HFL with Nils in 1851 Jämshög AI:9 (1840-1852) Bild 215 / sid 211 (AID: v95926.b215.s211, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) My first response: For anyone who wants to try and answer Karsten's questions, here is the link to Hanna's birth Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 214 / sid 419 (AID: v95953.b214.s419, NAD:SE/LLA/13196) And here is the link to the HFL at her birth showing her parents and Ingerd Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Bild 267 / sid 260 (AID: v95930.b267.s260, NAD:SE/LLA/13196) Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karsten Kuske Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Hej, Hello and searching for ancestors in Blekinge Hej and Hello, my name is Karsten (Kuske), I´m from Germany and I try to find my ancestors in Sweden. What do I know: My 3-greatgrandmother´s name was Hanna NILSSON * 14. March 1855 in Olofstöms kommun (maybe in Farabol, maybe in Jämshög) Emigrated to Germany oo 10. April 1877 in Curau, Schleswig-Holstein to Johann Christian Cristoph Dahlmann from Schleswig-Holstein (today the district of Curau is part of the parish of Stockelsdorf in the county of Ostholstein, state of Schleswig-Holstein, in the 19th century (from 1866 on) it was part of the principality of Lübeck) + 10. January 1934 in Bad Schwartau, Schleswig-Holstein Her parents are Nils NILSSON Sissa HÅKANSDOTTER (a with o above). Evidence/Sources already known: Birth: Proof of Ancestry from my Grandfather; Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/7 (1849-1867)); Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/5 (1828-1857)); corresponding data from DSSS; >From these records it can be read that the family lived in Farabol (property-no. 120) and that Hanna was baptized in Jämshögs kyrka (I know that Farabol moved to Kyrkhults försammling somewhen in the 1860´s). I do have some evidence about the date she emigrated to Germany: >From the Migrationsregistret: Her “person-ID” is I11329. 24. April 1871 from Falsehult, she´s mentioned as torparedotter (which corresponds with the baptismal entry: Nils is a torpare). Returning in 1874. Another entry states: Person-ID I11330, moving out on 3. April 1876 (again to Germany), as “bonddotter” from Björkefall, and no return is mentioned. Both entries states that she went alone. But: In both sources her name is “Johanna NilsDOTTER”, but the birthdate and birthplace is the same as from “my” Hanna - Jämshög. I have found NO entry for a Johanna Nilsdotter born 14. March 1855 in Jämshögs försammling… >From the “In-och Utflyttnings-Längd för Kyrkhult, Svenska Church >Records Kyrkhult/Blekinge 1865-1887” I have the information that a maid (piga) Hanna Nilsdotter moved out to Schleswig on 26. August 1867. Another puzzling item is: >From Jämshögs and Kyrkhults Church Books I have evidence, that she had >some siblings. Name of the parents fit, also some places where the parents/family lived at the time of birth of the siblings: In chronological order: 1854, 1855 in Farabol, 1864 in Mulantorp, 1867, 1871 in Falshult. The father´s occupation changes between torpare and bonde. What strikes me is that the age of the mover “jumps wildly around” – given, that I can read the entries from the church books correctly… Her siblings names are/could be (also in chronological order): Ingerd (older than Hanna), Ola, Jöns (who died 1/2 day after his birth), Bengta. So, now I do have lots of questions and I really need some help, as my Swedish-skills are far below of what I would need to find my way on my own through archives, websites etc. In the documents, where her family name is stated (these are mostly German), it´s NilsSON. The only Swedish document I found (the Migrationsregistret and the Flyttnings-Längd) says NilsDOTTER. I know a bit about the system of Swedish (family)names (the patronymic system), but it changed somewhen – when? How reliably are the data ref. to the age of the mother given in the parish registers for the children? Is the person-ID unique or could it be that it changed? And lots more… So, in short and overall: Is there anyone who is familiar with ancestry research in Blekinge (and for further in Kronoberg and Skane) and able to help me? Esp. how to proceed from Hanna, continuing with her parents (how to find s.th. about Nils and Sissa, only knowing the names?). Or to give me some help finding my way through Swedish websites (thank God many of them offer English information…) or a direct contact? Any help is welcome. Thanks a lot and tack så mycket fran Tyskland, Karsten ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pono (Norm) wrote 2014-07-06 23:48: > > For anyone who wants to try and answer Karsten's questions, here is the link > to Hanna's birth > > Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 214 / sid 419 (AID: v95953.b214.s419, NAD: > SE/LLA/13196) Female birth number 29 Birth date: 14 Mar 1855 Baptised: 18 Mar Name: Hanna Parents: "torpare" Nils Nilsson, wife Lisa/Sissa(?) Hknsdotter(?) Mother's age(?): 22 Mother received in church(?): 29 Apr Address: Farabohl > > And here is the link to the HFL at her birth showing her parents and Ingerd > > Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Bild 267 / sid 260 (AID: v95930.b267.s260, NAD: > SE/LLA/13196) Found at a "torp" under number 120 Farabol: - "torpare" Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 at number 108, came 1853 from "nt"(?). - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 Röeshult, came 1833 from "nt"(?). - d. Ingerd, born 1854-02-05 here, died 1854-03-11. - d, Hanna, born 1855-03-14. They move 1857 to "125", and are found at number 125 Mulatorp in Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Image 321 / page 314 (AID: v95930.b321.s314, NAD: SE/LLA/13196): - "torpare" Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 Mörbohult. - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 Röeshult. - d. Hanna, born 1855-03-14. - s. Sven, born 1857-10-30. - s. Ola, born 1864-06-24. They had come 1857 from number 120, moved 1864 to number 121, and are found at number 121 FAlshult in Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Image 275 / page 268 (AID: v95930.b275.s268, NAD: SE/LLA/13196). Kyrkhult parish was created 1865 from part of Jämshög parish, and they are found at number 46 Falshult in Kyrkhult AI:2 (1865-1875) Image 244 / page 980 (AID: v96311.b244.s980, NAD: SE/LLA/13225): - "torpare" Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 Kyrkhult. - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 Kyrkhult. - d. Hanna, born 1855-03-14 Kyrkhult, moved 1871-04-24 to Germany ("Tyskland"). - s. Sven, born 1857-10-30 Kyrkhult, moved 1874-10-28 to Fjelkinge. - s. Ola, born 1864-06-24 Kyrkhult, died 1874-07-06. - s. Jöns, born 1867-06-04 Kyrkhult, died 1867-06-04. - s. Nils, born 1869-04-30 Kyrkhult. - d. Bengta, born 1871-10-05 Kyrkhult. They move 1874 to page 802, at number 41 Björkefalla. Here Nils is no longer "torpare", but farmer of 1/96 mantal, the daughter Johanna(?) born 1855-03-14 came back 1874-12-12 from Denmark, and the son Sven came 1875 from Fjelkinge. Then as farmer of 719/6144 mantal at Björkefall in Kyrkhult AI:4 (1886-1896) Image 53 / page 49 (AID: v96313.b53.s49, NAD: SE/LLA/13225): - farmer Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 here. - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 here. - s. Nils, born 1869-04-30 here. - d. Bengta, born 1871-10-05 here. Hanna/Johanna and Sven are not recorded with them here, but had no moving-out information in the previous HFL volume. // Bo Johansson