Right, I goofed, Pehr is first born. Have contacted Centrala Soldatregistret so will see where that goes. Yes Mans Olsson's son Ola died so he isn't my ancestor. I keep forgetting that part...quite important to get that through my thick skull! As a bonus, I found Estred Zackrisdotter's estate inventory and the penmanship is lovely. I can read it, not necessarily understand it but it does give info on her daughter's marriages. Bonus!!! there are a few people mentioned at the bottom of the intro paragraph that I think may be grandchildren but not sure, Anders Pehrson and Jons Nilsson. and I think Elna's husband is Bing Strom? Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:32 (1823-1824) Image 420 / page 12 (AID: v157606.b420.s12, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) As for find the possible "Per" father to Ola, I guess I may never know. Albeit said, 5 new generations on that line is pretty good considering when I started I didn't know my grandmother's mother's name. Rhonda Bo answered Rhonda rhonda simpson wrote 2014-07-05 15:12: > > Now I'm confused again. Would the son Per (Pehr) have gotten the > Lundqvist > name when he became a reservist? --- Probably... > > I have checked all the Mantalslängd > records for Per Modig from Ola's death up to the creation of the HFL's. > Estred lived with him till her death, and have found his line of > descendants. Also, if I ordered Ola Modig's record through the Centrala > Soldatregistret how likely is it that there will be more info than what > is > in the database or General Roll Musters? --- I know almost nothing about their records... > > They have his birthdate as the one > I have which just makes this all the more confusing. --- But they could have an error... > > Looking for the Death of this first Pehr born in 1775 Norra Rörum CI:2 > (1774-1823) Image 228 / page 453 (AID: v111347.b228.s453, NAD: SE/L --- cavalry soldier Ola Modig's little son Per in Nötorp's cavalry soldier cottage, on his 3rd year, died the 4th July (1778) > > I found another son Zahris born Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 21 / > page > 25 (AID: v111347.b21.s25, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- OK, Zahris born 18 Jan 1778, baptised 3rd Sunday after Epiphania (25 Jan). Presumably named after the mother's father. Notice the entry ends with a mark and reference to the next page, where I think there is a report (entered later) of the emergency baptism of Zachris, notice it starts with a mark and a reference to the other page. > > Died Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 227 / page 451 (AID: > v111347.b227.s451, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- 4th Sunday after Epiphania (1 Feb 1778) cavalry soldier Ola Modig's little son Zahris died 7 days old. (Or buried 7 days after baptism?) He had received emergency baptism. > > (so that changes the first born son > after the father's father, I went back to 1771 3years before Ola and > Estred's marriage to see if there were others...just to be sure) --- The first one is still Per born 21 Nov 1775, isn't he? > > and then there is another one here Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 22 > / > page 27 (AID: v111347.b22.s27, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- Probably a report (entered later) of the emergency baptism of Zachris, notice it starts with a mark and a reference to the other page. > > I also decided to check the bouppteckning after Ola Modigs death. I found > his name but I'm not sure if it's his (?) the top of the page is in pretty > bad shape and I've never dealt with these records before. > Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 390 (AID: v157587.b390, NAD: > SE/LLA/10014) --- I don't think this is the actual estate inventory. The text at the very top seems to mention the previous estate inventory, and is signed by the widow Ester Zakariasdotter. Then the text clearly states this is a record of a public auction, held because of the previous estate inventory, of the estate after the deceased cavalry soldier Ola Modig in Nötarp. The right column records the buyers, notice that "Enkan" (the widow) and "Sonen Per" (the son Per) are among the buyers. Ola Modig's estate inventory probably starts at Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 370 / page 9 (AID: v157587.b370.s9, NAD: SE/LLA/10014). At least that estate inventory is signed by the widow Ester Zakariasdotter. Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 390 (AID: v157587.b390, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) > > Just to add some confusion or speculation to all of this, if Mans Olsson > is > the correct father of Ola Modig, then I have a confirmed DNA match with a > common ancestor 6th great grandparent, but it is at the 9th cousin level > (although predicted 2nd to 4th) again depending on having Mans Olsson > parents correct being Ola Tuvesson or Oluf Tullesson but we'll hold off > on > that! Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 33 / page 25 (AID: v99623.b33.s25, NAD: > SE/LLA/13182) --- Didn't Måns Olsson's son Ola die? And I still think there is a good probability that your Ola's father was named Per. // Bo Johansson

Rhonda-- Anders Persson and Jon Nilsson are värderingsmen. They evaluated the estate. Elna's husband is häradsmuraren (district bricklayer or mason) Ringström. Jim Polson Vancouver Bonus!!! there are a few people > mentioned at the bottom of the intro paragraph that I think may be > grandchildren but not sure, Anders Pehrson and Jons Nilsson. and I think > Elna's husband is Bing Strom? > > Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:32 (1823-1824) Image 420 / page 12 (AID: > v157606.b420.s12, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) >