Thanks Bo, I appreciate the help. It helps if I add the complete information. Steve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 7:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: SWEDEN Digest, Vol 9, Issue 194 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Nils Daniel Falk (Bo Johansson) 2. Re: Martha Stina Magnusdotter of Ljuder (Bo Johansson) 3. Re: ?sterg?tland - H?llestad - Husf?fh?r - 1832 - 1837 (AI:20) Image 93 of 507 page 175 (Bo Johansson) 4. Re: Emigrant lookup please - Otto William Forsberg b. 1869-12-17 (Pono (Norm)) 5. Emigrant lookup please - Elizabeth Carlson b. 1876 (Pono (Norm)) 6. how did Olof Ersson die in 1783? ([email protected]) 7. Re: how did Olof Ersson die in 1783? (Bo Johansson) 8. Re: Fwd: Help with writing 'O' (Peter Lundberg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:27:06 +0200 From: Bo Johansson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Nils Daniel Falk To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brenda Clement wrote 2014-06-07 06:59: > > Can you tell from looking at this HFL if Nils Daniel was in the military? > Falk sounds to me like a military name. > NAD: Ljuder AI:10 (1843-1848) Image 134 / page 125 (AID: v18838.b134.s125, > SE/VALA/00225) Yes, his title is "sold." and he lives in soldier cottage number 137 Soldier number 137 of Konga Company (number 1100 of the regiment) Nils Daniel Jonsson Falk is recorded at the muster 22 June 1846, in Generalm?nsterrullor - Kalmar regemente 426 (1846-1846) Image 384 (AID: v60238.b384, NAD: SE/KrA/0023). He was accepted as soldier 28 Apr 1834, age 30y 2m, had served 12y 2m, 5ft 10 1/4in tall, married. // Bo Johansson P.S. Number 1100 was the last soldier of the regiment, Kalmar Regemente had only 1100 soldiers instead of the normal 1200. http://hhogman.se/regiments_inf1_eng.htm#Kalmar regemente ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:32:15 +0200 From: Bo Johansson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Martha Stina Magnusdotter of Ljuder To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brenda Clement wrote 2014-06-07 07:14: > > I see death of Martha Stina Magnusdotter on 10 May 1852 on bottom of left > page at Ljuder F:1 (1831-1870) Image 49 / page 91 (AID: v30507.b49.s91, > NAD: SE/VALA/00225). What was her cause of death? There is no cause recorded for any deaths on this page. The underlined "Upl. hjon" is for "uppl?st hjonelag", that is a marriage had been dissolved by this death. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:48:47 +0200 From: Bo Johansson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] ?sterg?tland - H?llestad - Husf?fh?r - 1832 - 1837 (AI:20) Image 93 of 507 page 175 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Steve & Shirley wrote 2014-06-07 07:18: > > OK, I see I messed up the request. I should have added AI:20. > > Steve & Shirley wrote 2014-06-06 07:30: >> >> Can someone tell me the notation on line 2 for Casia Greta >> Andersdotter and where did she go in 1836. Also, there is a >> date in the 1837 column. Did she come back or was she there >> all along? OK, found at Grytg?l in H?llestad AI:20 (1832-1837) Image 94 / page 174 (AID: v26089.b94.s174, NAD: SE/VALA/00153), handwritten page 87). The remark is "Ej tagit ut besked" (not received certificate), and the moving-out column has Regna(?) 1836. But as you mentioned, there is a date 21/5 for 1837, so perhaps you will have to look for her both here at Grytg?l in H?llestad parish (in the next households volume), and in Regna parish. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:54:30 -1000 From: "Pono \(Norm\)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Emigrant lookup please - Otto William Forsberg b. 1869-12-17 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mahalo Martin! Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 8:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Emigrant lookup please - Otto William Forsberg b. 1869-12-17 Here he is. Post 800928 Forsberg, Otto Vilhelm Smeddr?ng (man) b. 1/16/1869 in Lungsund, V?rmlands l?n (V?rmland) Emigrated 4/13/1888 from ?minnefors, Lungsund, V?rmlands l?n (V?rmland) to Amerika 0461888017 - Bilaga/ytterligare information finns. Kontakta Emigrantregistret i Karlstad Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 324 Emibas migration file ID: Lungsund S 1888 017 Efternamn: FORSBERG F?rnamn: OTTO ?lder: 19 K?n: M F?dd: 1868/1869 F?rsamling: LUNGSUND L?n: S Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: G?TEBORG Utvandrdag: 1888 11 09 Destination: CHICAGO Med?kande: NEJ K?llkod: 37:269:24229 Martin --- Detta epostmeddelande inneh?ller inget virus eller annan skadlig kod f?r avast! antivirus ?r aktivt. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:06:10 -1000 From: "Pono \(Norm\)" <[email protected]> Subject: [SWEDEN] Emigrant lookup please - Elizabeth Carlson b. 1876 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" US Census shows she emigrated from Sweden in 1890. Since she was quite young, I wonder if she traveled with her parents. Thank you! Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 16:54:47 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] how did Olof Ersson die in 1783? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, There is a death entry for Corporal Olof Ersson, born 1751, at Hille C:3 (1779-1823) Bild 153 / sid 13 (AID: v135527.b153.s13, NAD: SE/HLA/1010072). Under his birth date there are the numbers 32, 20 dr -- does this have to do with the military? (It mentions he is a Corporal at Hille AI:4a (1778-1787) Bild 12 / sid 6 (AID:v135488.b12.s6, NAD: SE/HLA/1010072).) In the last column of the first reference (death record) it says: Gift 1779 d. 14 October med ?? dott. Brita Jonsdotter i Tr?jde. ?? en Son. ???. ???? ???, dog ???(hederligt?) f?r moderland(?) i ??? ???. Since he died in 1783, I am guessing he might have been participating in the US Revolutionary War and the second-to-last word might be something about the Colonies or Colonial war. Thank you very much for any help with those difficult words. Best, Nina ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:48:42 +0200 From: Bo Johansson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] how did Olof Ersson die in 1783? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed nin[email protected] wrote 2014-06-07 22:54: > > There is a death entry for Corporal Olof Ersson, born 1751, at > Hille C:3 (1779-1823) Bild 153 / sid 13 (AID: v135527.b153.s13, > NAD: SE/HLA/1010072). > Under his birth date there are the numbers 32, 20 dr -- does > this have to do with the military? --- That is his age, 32 years 20 days. > > (It mentions he is a Corporal at Hille AI:4a (1778-1787) Bild 12 / > sid 6 (AID:v135488.b12.s6, NAD: SE/HLA/1010072).) --- I suspect it says "Torparen", not "Corporal", so he was a small-scale tenant farmer > > In the last column of the first reference (death record) it says: > Gift 1779 d. 14 October med ?? dott. Brita Jonsdotter i Tr?jde. > ?? en Son. ???. ???? ???, dog ???(hederligt?) f?r moderland(?) > i ??? ???. --- Married 1779 the 14th October with ??? daughter Brita Jonsdotter i Tr?jde. Had(?) one son. Lived ("Lefvat") ???. Died quickly ("hastigt") probably ("f?rmodl.") of colic Nothing about being in the army... If he had been a soldier one would have expected him to have a soldier name as surname. > > Since he died in 1783, I am guessing he might have been participating > in the US Revolutionary War and the second-to-last word might be > something about the Colonies or Colonial war. --- No, "Colique" (colic) BTW, Sweden was at peace from 1762 (end of Prussian war) to 1788 (start of Gustav III's Russian war). // Bo Johansson ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 20:50:46 -0400 From: "Peter Lundberg" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Fwd: Help with writing 'O' To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Some laptops do not allow the type special characters when holding down the alt key. So here are some great methods to type the special characters. One method is to type charmap in the run window in windows. This pops up a keyboard that allows you to copy a character. Then paste the character in your document. Another easy way to write the special characters is to us the keyboard available in google translate. Just choose Swedish, hit the keyboard icon in the lower left corner and you can easily type Swedish special character. Then select the word , right click on top and choose copy. Google translate is a powerful tool which is able to help translate many Swedish phrases. You could then paste them in a document and copy them whenever you wish. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Larson Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 6:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Fwd: Help with writing 'O' Brenda, The Swedish alphabet has 29 letters. The 26 that we find in English and the 3 additional letters that you find in words, ?, ?, and ?. When the alphabet is recited they appear at after y. And I can't tell you how to pronounce them because I only got C's in my Swedish classes and the rest is history. You can write them on an American computer when you hold down the "alt" key and type a sequence of numbers. Here is a cheat sheet that I have used: ? = 0197 ? = 0229 ? - 0196 ? = 0228 ? = 0214 ? = 0246 So if you wanted to type the birthplace Henrik Lundqvist (the goalie for the NY Ranger's ice hockey team) you would type "?re". This is pronounced "Ora". But if you were to spell it "Are" you would have a verb and not a place name. (You can google Swedish Alphabet for more information.) Hope this helps, Carol from KY -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Clement <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 5, 2014 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with writing 'O' What other mark is there above an 'A' in Swedish? When searching in ArkivDigital, there are parishes that begin with an 'A' with a mark above them, that are not dots. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bo Johansson Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 11:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with writing 'O' Brenda Clement wrote 2014-06-05 17:21: > > H?lleberga AIIa:2 (1901-1910) Image 322 / page 310 (AID: > v166724.b322.s310, > NAD: SE/VALA/00152) > > Line 10..Is that an umlaut or circle above the ?o? in Viderstrom? That squiggle (in this text) is dots (umlaut, diaresis), there is no "o-ring" character in Swedish. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the SWEDEN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the SWEDEN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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