Den 2015-09-12 kl. 22:47, skrev Lois Casson via: > > I am trying to locate birth record for Algot Andersson b. 18 Mar 1884. > His WWII Draft Record and index for US Cit App indicate he was born in > Mellerud, Sweden. Other records indicate Halland. > > My book indicates that there is a Mellerud parish in Ålvsborg län, but I > can find nothing on AD or leads from other sources. I found a modern > Mellerud which appears to be located in the NE of what was Ålvsborg > län. Can someone point me in the right direction? Could it have been > a farm village in a Hallands parish? --- Ortsnamnsregistret has no Mellerud in Halland county. > > Records indicate that he emigrated in 1903. A check of those records > may provide a clue. He ended up in Rhode Island, US. --- He might be this one from the EMIHAMN database, Mellerud is in Holm parish, Älvsborg county: Surname: ANDERSON Given name: ALGOT Age: 19 Sex: M Born: 1883/1884 Parish: HOLM County: P [Älvsborg] Port: GÖTEBORG Emigration date: 1903-07-10 Destination: PAWTUCKET RI Fellows: NEJ [Alone] Source code: 73:499:5047 I don't see him in the Holm 1903 moving-out list, so he didn't actually come from Holm parish, or he had left without giving proper notice. // Bo Johansson

Mellerud in Älvsborgs län is in the province (landskap) Dalsland. Easily mixed up with Halland. Annika lördag 12 september 2015 skrev Lois Casson via <sweden@rootsweb.com>: > > Hello, > > I am trying to locate birth record for Algot Andersson b. 18 Mar 1884. > His WWII Draft Record and index for US Cit App indicate he was born in > Mellerud, Sweden. Other records indicate Halland. > > My book indicates that there is a Mellerud parish in Ålvsborg län, but I > can find nothing on AD or leads from other sources. I found a modern > Mellerud which appears to be located in the NE of what was Ålvsborg > län. Can someone point me in the right direction? Could it have been > a farm village in a Hallands parish? > > Records indicate that he emigrated in 1903. A check of those records > may provide a clue. He ended up in Rhode Island, US. > > Thanks in advance for the time, > Lois > > -- > Lo in Flo > Lois Kälander Casson > Pensacola, Florida USA

Hello, I am trying to locate birth record for Algot Andersson b. 18 Mar 1884. His WWII Draft Record and index for US Cit App indicate he was born in Mellerud, Sweden. Other records indicate Halland. My book indicates that there is a Mellerud parish in Ålvsborg län, but I can find nothing on AD or leads from other sources. I found a modern Mellerud which appears to be located in the NE of what was Ålvsborg län. Can someone point me in the right direction? Could it have been a farm village in a Hallands parish? Records indicate that he emigrated in 1903. A check of those records may provide a clue. He ended up in Rhode Island, US. Thanks in advance for the time, Lois -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA

Den 2015-09-11 kl. 04:14, skrev SUSAN FOUGSTEDT via: > > Could anyone make a guess at why the name Moback would become > Petersson? I'm referring to Egby Alla;1 (1897-1936) image 730/ pg63 > > Skomare Per Aug Moback enka > Kristina Karolina Moback Larsson > Victor Henning > Augusta Adeline (Petersson is added in) > Hanna Signe Teresa (Petersson added) > Oskar Sigried )Petersson added) > Ernst Fridolf Moback > > All previous years the name was Moback > When some of the above immigrated they used the name Petersson, not Moback. It was not automatic that the children would "inherit" their father's non-patronymic surname. Some could choose to use the patronymic (their father's given name + son/dotter) instead, in this case Persson/Petersson or Persdotter/Petersdotter. This was around the end of the 19th century, when the surname customs were changing, and in some families both sons and daughter would use the same (male) version of the name, in this case Petersson. It is not a case that their name was changed from Mobäck to Petersson, this is the first time they are recorded with surnames, see the previous household records in: Egby AIIa:1 (1897-1936) Image 460 / page 36 (AID: v173381.b460.s36, NAD: SE/VALA/00069). and: Egby AI:4 (1872-1896) Image 27 / page 22 (AID: v21933.b27.s22, NAD: SE/VALA/00069) BTW, the widow is recorded as "Kristina Karolina Mobäck f. Larsson", because she was a widow named "Kristina Karolina Mobäck", and her "maiden name" was Larsson. In previous records she was wife "Kristina Karolina Larsson". // Bo Johansson

Could anyone make a guess at why the name Moback would become Petersson? I'm referring to Egby Alla;1 (1897-1936) image 730/ pg63 Skomare Per Aug Moback enka Kristina Karolina Moback Larsson Victor Henning Augusta Adeline (Petersson is added in) Hanna Signe Teresa (Petersson added) Oskar Sigried )Petersson added) Ernst Fridolf Moback All previous years the name was Moback When some of the above immigrated they used the name Petersson, not Moback. thanks susan fougstedt msuffda@verizon.net

Den 2015-09-07 kl. 22:22, skrev John Bloom via: > > ... search for my great grandfather, Carl Johan Bloom... > date of birth, 22 May 1847 and that he came to America from Sweden at about > 22 years of age, so roughly 1869. The first official document that places > him in the United States is his application for naturalization on 15 > October 1872. > > I found a Carl Johan in County: Norrbotten, Parish: Nederkalix, born 22 > May 1847 (I think), christened 23 May 1847. Carl Johan (illegitimate) born 22 May 1847, father reported to be farmhand Johan Johansson in Pålänge, mother maid Britta Stina Lindqwist (age group 30-35) of Töre. // Bo Johansson

Den 2015-09-07 kl. 20:46, skrev Lisa Wagner via: > > I am needing some help locating my gg grandfather, Per August Carlsson. > He was born 5 Dec 1864 in Augerum, Blekinge, Sweden. > > I have him last living in Karlskrona stadsförsamling, Blekinge. > AID # v96208.b240.s2407 AI:39 Image 240 page 2407. I believe he > received his sailors certificate on 4 Sep 1889. > He is the 8th name from the top. > > Next I found him on the missing persons list > AID# v249387.b300.s27 AIII:1 Image 300 page 27. > For Karlskrona stadsförsamling, Blekinge in 1890. --- If he became a sailor he might not have emigrated as a passenger, but instead left his ship in a foreign port. > > I found a Per August Karlsson leaving on 15 Nov 1889 on the ship, Romeo > heading to Hull England. AID# v479764.b2780.s553 in the > Götesborgs poliskammare (-1900) records. Image 2780 page 553. --- This Per August Karlsson and his companion Karl August Svärd were from Fellingsbro parish, Örebro county. They look like this in the EMIBAS database: Karlsson, Per August Dräng [farmhand] (unmarried man) b. 19 Nov 1863 in Stora Mellösa, Örebro län (Närke) Emigrated 8 Nov 1889 from Svillinge By, Fellingsbro, Örebro län (Västmanland) to Nordamerika Source: Household Examination Roll, p. III:336 ------------- Svärd, Karl August Dräng (unmarried man) b. 11 July 1865 in Fellingsbro, Örebro län (Västmanland) Emigrated 29 Oct 1889 from Yttre Ekeby, Fellingsbro, Örebro län (Västmanland) to Nordamerika Source: Household Examination Roll, p. II:310 -------------------------- // Bo johansson

Hi Lisa, Is it possible that Omega took a census of their residents? Towns and cities take then so they can predict what might be needed as far a schools and services on the coming years so they can start making plans. They might ask how many in the household and their names or how many cows you had.:} All the best Barbara in MA On 9/7/2015 2:46 PM, Lisa Wagner via wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I am needing some help locating my gg grandfather, Per August Carlsson. He was born 5 Dec 1864 in Augerum, Blekinge, Sweden. > > I have him last living in Karlskrona stadsförsamling, Blekinge. AID # v96208.b240.s2407 AI:39 Image 240 page 2407. I believe he received his sailors certificate on 4 Sep 1889. He is the 8th name from the top. > > Next I found him on the missing persons list AID# v249387.b300.s27 AIII:1 Image 300 page 27. For Karlskrona stadsförsamling, Blekinge in 1890. > > I found a Per August Karlsson leaving on 15 Nov 1889 on the ship, Romeo heading to Hull England. AID# v479764.b2780.s553 in the Götesborgs poliskammare (-1900) records. Image 2780 page 553. > > Is there a way to trace back and see if this is MY Per August? What is the number on the left mean? "Kontraktets N:o" his is 1124. The date is just about perfect. He got his sailors cert on 4 Sep 1889 and has left for Ogema Wisconsin on 15 Nov 1889 and is declared missing in 1890. He has been using "C" for Carlsson, but this one is "K". Don't know if this was used interchangably or if it is MY Per, did he use "K" instead of "C" on purpose, or if I am just dreaming and this is not my Per at all. > > Also, he seems to have a travel companion, but I can not read the last name. It looks like Karl August "Tvärd"?? If I have this mans last name maybe I can find them here in the US. But there are many Per August Carlsson's here. I need to narrow them down. And unfortunately, the census I need for this, 1890, does not exist. So by 1900, they could be anywhere. > > And if it is my Per, how might I find where he went in England? > > Any thoughts on how to proceed with him, is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks so much > > > Lisa Wagner > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' (without the quotes) in the subject and the body of the message. If you wish to switch from List to Digest mode, or vice versa, unsubscribe from the list then send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with 'subscribe' (without the quotes) in both the subject and message body. When you confirm the new subscription you will have the option of subscribing to either "Digest" or "List." In digest mode you will receive a number of individual messages in one mailing. In list mode each message to the list is delivered individually. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On occasion I write when I need assistance with my search for my great grandfather, Carl Johan Bloom. The circumstance is that I know only his date of birth, 22 May 1847 and that he came to America from Sweden at about 22 years of age, so roughly 1869. The first official document that places him in the United States is his application for naturalization on 15 October 1872. I have searched on his given names and date of birth through about 90% of the parishes in Sweden. When I find a close match, I try to find the person in the household examinations and to follow that person until I can disqualify them by death or by remaining in Sweden too long. I found a Carl Johan in County: Norrbotten, Parish: Nederkalix, born 22 May 1847 (I think), christened 23 May 1847. It is very rare in my search to find an exact match for the given first and middle name as well as the birth date. Unfortunately I cannot read the handwriting well enough to make out a village or farm location. I would appreciate a full translation of this record to enable me to look for him in the HE's. Regards, John from Iowa The source information from Ancestry.com is: County:NorrbottenParish:NederkalixRecord Type:Födde (Birth)Year Range:1841 - 1861GID Number:1986.23.13700Volume:C:5Roll/Fiche Number:GH-2705Page Number:100

Hello, I am needing some help locating my gg grandfather, Per August Carlsson. He was born 5 Dec 1864 in Augerum, Blekinge, Sweden. I have him last living in Karlskrona stadsförsamling, Blekinge. AID # v96208.b240.s2407 AI:39 Image 240 page 2407. I believe he received his sailors certificate on 4 Sep 1889. He is the 8th name from the top. Next I found him on the missing persons list AID# v249387.b300.s27 AIII:1 Image 300 page 27. For Karlskrona stadsförsamling, Blekinge in 1890. I found a Per August Karlsson leaving on 15 Nov 1889 on the ship, Romeo heading to Hull England. AID# v479764.b2780.s553 in the Götesborgs poliskammare (-1900) records. Image 2780 page 553. Is there a way to trace back and see if this is MY Per August? What is the number on the left mean? "Kontraktets N:o" his is 1124. The date is just about perfect. He got his sailors cert on 4 Sep 1889 and has left for Ogema Wisconsin on 15 Nov 1889 and is declared missing in 1890. He has been using "C" for Carlsson, but this one is "K". Don't know if this was used interchangably or if it is MY Per, did he use "K" instead of "C" on purpose, or if I am just dreaming and this is not my Per at all. Also, he seems to have a travel companion, but I can not read the last name. It looks like Karl August "Tvärd"?? If I have this mans last name maybe I can find them here in the US. But there are many Per August Carlsson's here. I need to narrow them down. And unfortunately, the census I need for this, 1890, does not exist. So by 1900, they could be anywhere. And if it is my Per, how might I find where he went in England? Any thoughts on how to proceed with him, is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much Lisa Wagner

> Den 2015-09-06 kl. 01:51, skrev SUSAN FOUGSTEDT via: >> >> trying to get info on Christina Karolina Larsson >> birth of son Johan Algot Isador Moback 13 March 1884 Bredsättra > > --- Johan August Algott Isidor, illegitimate > > The family is found at Egby number 5 in [H] Egby AIIa:1 (1897-1936) > Image 460 / page 36 (AID: v173381.b460.s36, NAD: SE/VALA/00069). > > ... Johan August Algot Isidor Mobäck moves 1901-10-19 to Köping. CORRECTION: moves 1901-11-27 to Köping. He is found at Källingemöre number 5 in [H] Köping AIIa:1 (1897-1907) Image 235 / page 225 (AID: v174272.b235.s225, NAD: SE/VALA/00211). He emigrates 1902-10-29 to N.America. // Bo Johansson

Den 2015-09-06 kl. 01:51, skrev SUSAN FOUGSTEDT via: > > trying to get info on Christina Karolina Larsson > birth of son Johan Algot Isador Moback 13 March 1884 Bredsättra > > Bredsättra C:5 (1861-1888) Image 86 (AID: v37372.b86, NAD: SE/VALA/00046) > > does it say the child's mother has other children born out of wedlock? --- Johan August Algott Isidor, illegitimate The remark: the child's mother has let the child be recorded as her [child]. > > Household records > Bredsättra AI:8 (1884-1894) Image 149 / page 136 (AID: v21727.b149.s136, NAD: SE/VALA/00046) > > she does eventually marry Per August Moback but i don't know what it says in the comments? --- Betrothed [to] shoemaker P.A. Mobäck in Egby. She and the son move 1885-03-06 to Egby. They are found with Per August Mobäck, and his parents and siblings, at number 5 Egby in [H] Egby AI:4 (1872-1896) Image 27 / page 22 (AID: v21933.b27.s22, NAD: SE/VALA/00069). Notice that Johan August Algot Isidor is recorded as "dess o.ä. son" (her illegitimate son), so P.A. Mobäck is most probably not the father. But there are also 5 legitimate ("äkta") children. They look like this in Swedish Census 1900: Mobäck, Kristina Karolina Skomakareänka [shoemaker's widow] b. 1861 in Alböke (Kalmar län, Öland) Widow, mother Johan August Algot Isidor b. 1884 in Bredsätra (Kalmar län, Öland) hennes s. f. ä. [her son before marriage] Boy, child Martin Teodor b. 1885 in Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) bådas s. [son of both] Boy, child Ernst Fridolf b. 1888 in Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) bådas s. [son of both] Boy, child Wiktor Henning b. 1891 in Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) bådas s. [son of both] Boy, child Augusta Adelina b. 1893 in Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) bådas d. [daughter of both] Girl, child Hanna Signe Terese b. 1895 in Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) bådas d. [daughter of both] Girl, child Oskar Sigfrid b. 1898 in Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) bådas s. [son of both] Boy, child Egby Egby (Kalmar län, Öland) -------------------------- The family is found at Egby number 5 in [H] Egby AIIa:1 (1897-1936) Image 460 / page 36 (AID: v173381.b460.s36, NAD: SE/VALA/00069). Per August Mobäck dies 1899-03-21, Johan August Algot Isidor Mobäck moves 1901-10-19 to Köping. Martin Teodor and Ernst Fridolf also move to Köping 1901 and 1903. The mother and the rest of the children move 1903 toa page 63, where the mother dies 1916-10-06. Wiktor Henning Mobäck emigrates 1907-10-08 to N.America, Ernst Fridolf Mobäck 1905-05-06, Augusta Adelina Petersson 1921-12-30. The others also move out, and might also emigrate later... // Bo Johansson

trying to get info on Christina Karolina Larsson birth of son Johan Algot Isador Moback 13 March 1884 Bredsättra Bredsättra C:5 (1861-1888) Image 86 (AID: v37372.b86, NAD: SE/VALA/00046) does it say the child's mother has other children born out of wedlock? Household records Bredsättra AI:8 (1884-1894) Image 149 / page 136 (AID: v21727.b149.s136, NAD: SE/VALA/00046) she does eventually marry Per August Moback but i don't know what it says in the comments? thanks Susan Fougstedt Littleton, Mass

Den 2015-09-05 kl. 16:07, skrev Debbie: > > QUESTION: Is there any way using the information provided to get a > sense for their position in society? I mentioned in an earlier post > that the "family lore" is that Ida had been raised wealthy > circumstances, but her family bankrupted the family. I'd like to try > to figure out if there's any truth to this. In American records, you > can get a sense for the families position in society: did they own or > rent their home? how much was it valued at? what was the occupation? > Clearly, Ida's family was not wealthy in the 1880s and 1890s following > the death of her father. But, what about before that? Is there any way > to know? The estate inventory after Nils Johan Brutus is found at Vimmerby rådhusrätt och magistrat FI:6 (1874-1893) Image 265 / page 519 (AID: v78943.b265.s519, NAD: SE/VALA/01724). He owned the (small) property Fredriksberg valued at 500:- kr, but no gold or silver, and a very limited set of household articles, and 2 cows, 3 sheep, and 3 lambs. But the debts were quite high so the widow inherited 120:- kr and the 9 children inherited less than 9:- kr each. See the division of the estate at Vimmerby rådhusrätt och magistrat FI:6 (1874-1893) Image 305 / page 599 (AID: v78943.b305.s599, NAD: SE/VALA/01724). To put this in perspective, the 2 cows vere valued at 50:- kr each, and the rest of the animals together at 15:- kr. --- The estates after Jonas Myrong and his wife Catharina Nilsdotter (both died 1857) were even smaller, no real estate, no gold or silver, and one ox and two cows. Sevede häradsrätt FIIIa:24 (1858-1859) Image 76 / page 147 (AID: v78643.b76.s147, NAD: SE/VALA/01574) Sevede häradsrätt FIIIa:24 (1858-1859) Image 78 / page 151 (AID: v78643.b78.s151, NAD: SE/VALA/01574) --- Jonas Bom doesn't seem to have an estate inventory, unless he had moved to another court district. Sevede häradsrätt BouReg:1 (1693-1899) Image 165 (AID: v188812.b165, NAD: SE/VALA/01574) // Bo Johansson

Den 2015-09-05 kl. 16:07, skrev Debbie: > > 1. QUESTION:How do I record the location of "soldier cottage 122 Målen > under Smedserum" as shown in the birth/household records. A google > map for "Smedserum" shows it east of Locknevi. Is this the accurate > location? Other records indicate that she was born in Tuna, which is > way to the south. > > Birth Record: There is a Brita Maria born 3 July 1824, parents Jonas > Bohm and Maja Stina Nilsdotter (age 37) of Målen, in [H] Tuna C:2 > (1755-1826) Image 242 / page 473 (AID: v41391.b242.s473, NAD: > SE/VALA/00389). They are found at soldier cottage 122 Målen under > Smedserum, in [H] Tuna AI:7 (1822-1825) Image 137 / page 128 (AID: > v24218.b137.s128, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). --- The Smedserum where she was born is in Tuna parish, it seems to be this manor at the Lantmäteriet (Swedish National Survey) placename and map-search page: http://kso2.lantmateriet.se/?e=573763&n=6376568&z=5 Web-site: http://kso2.lantmateriet.se/# A list of place-names in Tuna parish: http://www.bygdeband.se/plats/166640/sverige/kalmar-lan/vimmerby/tuna/ "Målen under Smedserum" means that Målen was a smaller unit (here a soldier "torp" ) on the properties of a main farm. That is the land was not owned by the inhabitants of Målen, but by the owner of Smedserum. > > -------------- > QUESTION: Is there any way using the information provided to get a > sense for their position in society? I mentioned in an earlier post > that the "family lore" is that Ida had been raised wealthy > circumstances, but her family bankrupted the family. I'd like to try > to figure out if there's any truth to this. In American records, you > can get a sense for the families position in society: did they own or > rent their home? how much was it valued at? what was the occupation? > Clearly, Ida's family was not wealthy in the 1880s and 1890s following > the death of her father. But, what about before that? Is there any way > to know? --- Both of Ida's parents were the children of common soldiers, and her father was a soldier, their status in society one level below farmers. So perhaps the family stories have "improved on reality"... > > -------------- > QUESTION: Several of the men (Jonas Born, Jonas Myrong & Nils Johan > Brutus) are recorded as being "soldiers." Is there any indication of > their "rank" or anyway to find out?? Would this information help, in > any way, to shed light on the families' positions in society? LOL -- I > don't care either way. I'd just like to get a better sense for what > their existence was like and whether the "family lore" might be true! > In some European cultures, the aristocrats had the first son inherit > and the other sons go into law, the military or the clergy. So, I > suppose there's a chance that the "family lore" is true --- The name was probably Jonas Bom, and the "Born" a later reading error. These were common soldiers, if they had been corporals or sergeants (or officers) they would have that title in the records. Military information here: http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/swegen.htm BTW, a son of the aristocracy would become an officer, not a soldier. // Bo Johansson

Bo, I cannot thank you enough for all of the records you've shared!! Your kindness is much appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to do the research and send this information! Perhaps you can help me to clarify a couple of things. 1. QUESTION:How do I record the location of "soldier cottage 122 Målen under Smedserum" as shown in the birth/household records. A google map for "Smedserum" shows it east of Locknevi. Is this the accurate location? Other records indicate that she was born in Tuna, which is way to the south. Birth Record: There is a Brita Maria born 3 July 1824, parents Jonas Bohm and Maja Stina Nilsdotter (age 37) of Målen, in [H] Tuna C:2 (1755-1826) Image 242 / page 473 (AID: v41391.b242.s473, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). They are found at soldier cottage 122 Målen under Smedserum, in [H] Tuna AI:7 (1822-1825) Image 137 / page 128 (AID: v24218.b137.s128, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). -------------- QUESTION: Is there any way using the information provided to get a sense for their position in society? I mentioned in an earlier post that the "family lore" is that Ida had been raised wealthy circumstances, but her family bankrupted the family. I'd like to try to figure out if there's any truth to this. In American records, you can get a sense for the families position in society: did they own or rent their home? how much was it valued at? what was the occupation? Clearly, Ida's family was not wealthy in the 1880s and 1890s following the death of her father. But, what about before that? Is there any way to know? -------------- QUESTION: Several of the men (Jonas Born, Jonas Myrong & Nils Johan Brutus) are recorded as being "soldiers." Is there any indication of their "rank" or anyway to find out?? Would this information help, in any way, to shed light on the families' positions in society? LOL -- I don't care either way. I'd just like to get a better sense for what their existence was like and whether the "family lore" might be true! In some European cultures, the aristocrats had the first son inherit and the other sons go into law, the military or the clergy. So, I suppose there's a chance that the "family lore" is true Many thanks! Debbie USA On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@bredband.net> wrote: > Den 2015-09-04 kl. 17:02, skrev Debbie via: >> >> >> Is it possible to locate birth, marriage and death records for the >> following two people? Also, Nils Johan Brutus was a soldier at one >> point. Are military records available?? >> >> Nils Johan Brutus >> b. 08 Apr 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden >> d. 2 Feb 1880 [Probably Vimmerby, Kalmar, Sweden] > > > --- [H] Tuna C:2 (1755-1826) Image 241 / page 471 (AID: v41391.b241.s471, > NAD: SE/VALA/00389): > > Nils Johan born 8 Apr 1824, parents Jonas Myrong and Carin Nilsdotter (age > 36) of Örremåla. > > The place-name is actually soldier cottage number 109 Orremåla under [on the > properties of] Hällerum, in [H] Tuna AI:9 (1826-1830) Image 178 / page 345 > (AID: v24220.b178.s345, NAD: SE/VALA/00389): > > - soldier Jonas Myrong, born 1788-08-24 Vimmerby, came 1813 from Vimmerby. > - wife Catrina Nilsdotter, born 1784-08-10 Vimmerby. > - 5 children born 1810-1824. > > > [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling CI:9 (1871-1887) Image 186 (AID: v41471.b186, > NAD: SE/VALA/00419): > > Died 2 Feb 1880, disharged soldier Nils Johan Brutus from Fredricksberg, age > 55y 9m 25d, married man, cause heart defect. > > >> >> his wife >> Didrika Maria Born >> b. 3 Jul 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden >> d. aft 1890 [possibly in Vimmerby, Kalmar, Sweden] > > > There is a Brita Maria born 3 July 1824, parents Jonas Bohm and Maja Stina > Nilsdotter (age 37) of Målen, in [H] Tuna C:2 (1755-1826) Image 242 / page > 473 (AID: v41391.b242.s473, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). > > They are found at soldier cottage 122 Målen under Smedserum, in [H] Tuna > AI:7 (1822-1825) Image 137 / page 128 (AID: v24218.b137.s128, NAD: > SE/VALA/00389). > > Here the daughter born 1824-07-03 is recorded as Didrica Maria. > > - soldier Jonas Bom, born 1785-09-26 Hjorted, came 1818 from Frödinge. > - wife Maja Stina Nilsdotter, born 1787-12-08 Frödinge. > - 4 children born 1810-1824. > > > The widow Didrika Maria Brutus is found at Höghult in [H] Vimmerby > stadsförsamling AI:17 (1891-1895) Image 396 / page 386 (AID: > v24391.b396.s386, NAD: SE/VALA/00419). > > Ahe moves 1891 to page to Fredriksberg on page 372, where she moves 1894 to > Västra Kvarteret number 20 on page 133. > > Then in [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling AIIa:1 (1896-1901) Image 1440 / page > 132 (AID: v175240.b1440.s132, NAD: SE/VALA/00419): > > Here Didrika Maria Brutus dies 1899-06-06. > > [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling FI:3 (1895-1933) Image 28 / page 20 (AID: > v175260.b28.s20, NAD: SE/VALA/00419): > > Died 6 june 1899, widow Didrika Maria Brutus from W.Qv. 20, born 1824-07-03, > cause face cancer. > > // Bo Johansson >

Debbie -- Here are a couple of links that may help you. The Rootsweb site is one that many of us used years ago. It has not been updated for quite a while, but has MUCH good information. Play around with it and see if you find anything to help you answer your questions. The second and third ones have lots of interesting info. The third is a PDF that takes awhile to load, but would be good to check out. Good luck. Joy http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~swewgw/ http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/ http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/RitesofPassage.pdf On 9/5/2015 7:07 AM, Debbie via wrote: > Bo, > I cannot thank you enough for all of the records you've shared!! Your > kindness is much appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to do the > research and send this information! > > Perhaps you can help me to clarify a couple of things. > > 1. QUESTION:How do I record the location of "soldier cottage 122 Målen > under Smedserum" as shown in the birth/household records. A google > map for "Smedserum" shows it east of Locknevi. Is this the accurate > location? Other records indicate that she was born in Tuna, which is > way to the south. > > Birth Record: There is a Brita Maria born 3 July 1824, parents Jonas > Bohm and Maja Stina Nilsdotter (age 37) of Målen, in [H] Tuna C:2 > (1755-1826) Image 242 / page 473 (AID: v41391.b242.s473, NAD: > SE/VALA/00389). They are found at soldier cottage 122 Målen under > Smedserum, in [H] Tuna AI:7 (1822-1825) Image 137 / page 128 (AID: > v24218.b137.s128, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). > > -------------- > QUESTION: Is there any way using the information provided to get a > sense for their position in society? I mentioned in an earlier post > that the "family lore" is that Ida had been raised wealthy > circumstances, but her family bankrupted the family. I'd like to try > to figure out if there's any truth to this. In American records, you > can get a sense for the families position in society: did they own or > rent their home? how much was it valued at? what was the occupation? > Clearly, Ida's family was not wealthy in the 1880s and 1890s following > the death of her father. But, what about before that? Is there any way > to know? > > -------------- > QUESTION: Several of the men (Jonas Born, Jonas Myrong & Nils Johan > Brutus) are recorded as being "soldiers." Is there any indication of > their "rank" or anyway to find out?? Would this information help, in > any way, to shed light on the families' positions in society? LOL -- I > don't care either way. I'd just like to get a better sense for what > their existence was like and whether the "family lore" might be true! > In some European cultures, the aristocrats had the first son inherit > and the other sons go into law, the military or the clergy. So, I > suppose there's a chance that the "family lore" is true > > Many thanks! > Debbie > USA > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Den 2015-09-04 kl. 17:02, skrev Debbie via: > > ... Also, Nils Johan Brutus was a soldier at one point. > Are military records available?? > > Nils Johan Brutus > b. 08 Apr 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden Follow him (with parents and siblings) to [H] Tuna AI:13 (1839-1845) Image 212 / page 471 (AID: v24224.b212.s471, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). Here he gains the surname Brutus, and the remark tells he serves as soldier number 98 for Ramshult in Vimmerby parish. In the next volume he is recorded as married to Didrika Maria Bom of Gunnarsmåla, and he moves 1847 to Vimmerby. [H] Tuna AI:15 (1846-1855) Image 234 / page 511 (AID: v24226.b234.s511, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). Soldier number 648 of the regiment and 98 of Sevede company, at Ramshult, Nils Johan Brutus was accepted 9 Sep 1844, age 21y 10m, had served 1y 9m, unmarried, is recorded in Generalmönsterrullor - Kalmar regemente 426 (1846-1846) Image 254 (AID: v60238.b254, NAD: SE/KrA/0023). And he will presumably be found in later muster rolls, until his discharge. // Bo Johansson

Den 2015-09-04 kl. 17:02, skrev Debbie via: > > Is it possible to locate birth, marriage and death records for the > following two people? Also, Nils Johan Brutus was a soldier at one > point. Are military records available?? > > Nils Johan Brutus > b. 08 Apr 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden > d. 2 Feb 1880 [Probably Vimmerby, Kalmar, Sweden] --- [H] Tuna C:2 (1755-1826) Image 241 / page 471 (AID: v41391.b241.s471, NAD: SE/VALA/00389): Nils Johan born 8 Apr 1824, parents Jonas Myrong and Carin Nilsdotter (age 36) of Örremåla. The place-name is actually soldier cottage number 109 Orremåla under [on the properties of] Hällerum, in [H] Tuna AI:9 (1826-1830) Image 178 / page 345 (AID: v24220.b178.s345, NAD: SE/VALA/00389): - soldier Jonas Myrong, born 1788-08-24 Vimmerby, came 1813 from Vimmerby. - wife Catrina Nilsdotter, born 1784-08-10 Vimmerby. - 5 children born 1810-1824. [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling CI:9 (1871-1887) Image 186 (AID: v41471.b186, NAD: SE/VALA/00419): Died 2 Feb 1880, disharged soldier Nils Johan Brutus from Fredricksberg, age 55y 9m 25d, married man, cause heart defect. > > his wife > Didrika Maria Born > b. 3 Jul 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden > d. aft 1890 [possibly in Vimmerby, Kalmar, Sweden] There is a Brita Maria born 3 July 1824, parents Jonas Bohm and Maja Stina Nilsdotter (age 37) of Målen, in [H] Tuna C:2 (1755-1826) Image 242 / page 473 (AID: v41391.b242.s473, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). They are found at soldier cottage 122 Målen under Smedserum, in [H] Tuna AI:7 (1822-1825) Image 137 / page 128 (AID: v24218.b137.s128, NAD: SE/VALA/00389). Here the daughter born 1824-07-03 is recorded as Didrica Maria. - soldier Jonas Bom, born 1785-09-26 Hjorted, came 1818 from Frödinge. - wife Maja Stina Nilsdotter, born 1787-12-08 Frödinge. - 4 children born 1810-1824. The widow Didrika Maria Brutus is found at Höghult in [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling AI:17 (1891-1895) Image 396 / page 386 (AID: v24391.b396.s386, NAD: SE/VALA/00419). Ahe moves 1891 to page to Fredriksberg on page 372, where she moves 1894 to Västra Kvarteret number 20 on page 133. Then in [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling AIIa:1 (1896-1901) Image 1440 / page 132 (AID: v175240.b1440.s132, NAD: SE/VALA/00419): Here Didrika Maria Brutus dies 1899-06-06. [H] Vimmerby stadsförsamling FI:3 (1895-1933) Image 28 / page 20 (AID: v175260.b28.s20, NAD: SE/VALA/00419): Died 6 june 1899, widow Didrika Maria Brutus from W.Qv. 20, born 1824-07-03, cause face cancer. // Bo Johansson

Is it possible to locate birth, marriage and death records for the following two people? Also, Nils Johan Brutus was a soldier at one point. Are military records available?? Nils Johan Brutus b. 08 Apr 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden d. 2 Feb 1880 [Probably Vimmerby, Kalmar, Sweden] his wife Didrika Maria Born b. 3 Jul 1824 Tuna, Kalmar, Sweden d. aft 1890 [possibly in Vimmerby, Kalmar, Sweden]