Thanks, Bo. I thought I might be interpreting it wrong. I'll file this record with the marriage of my ancestors that took place on Feb. 30th. Priests could make mistakes just like the rest of us. Annette On 11/15/12, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2012-11-14 20:51: > > >> I am looking at No. 3 death of widow Lovisa Abrahamsdtr from >> Storegården. Am I reading it correctly? Does it say she died on Sept >> 27 and her burial ceremony was Sept 5? > > It does say that, which must be incorrect. Perhaps she was buried 5 > October? > > // Bo Johanson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, wondering if someone might have luck translating the following death record for Åke Håkanson in: AD Östraby CI:3 (1789-1832) Image 202 / page 308 (AID: v110422.b202.s308, NAD: SE/LLA/13534). died 30 Jan 1801, buried 8 Feb 1801, abo (farmer) from No. 2 Tollstorp, age 68, [cause of death?], parents = Hakan [Hakanson?? or??] of Tolstorp and Elsa Jonsdotter. In particular, I am trying to translate Åke's father's name - is it Hakan Hakanson or ??. Also trying to interpret cause of death. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! becky olson

Hi Judy, I know that you probably had a good time at your aunt's birthday. You are lucky to have an aunt that is 90 years old. All of my aunts and uncles are deceased so I no one left to help me with my Swedish family research. I don't know if she would have flown here from Sweden in the 40s as World War 2 was just over in 1945. I, also, have not found any database for air line passengers coming to this country. Thanks for responding to my request. Naomi in Illinois judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:04:09 Naomi, I don't see them on the Emihamn database nor the Emisal (Swedish American Line) database in the 1940s and 1950s. I do know that there are hits for other people in that time period. I think that Emihamn stops after 1951. (I found 325 hits on Emihamn for 1951 and no hits after that year.) The Emisal database seems to stop after 1950. Maybe they flew. I don't know of any database for airline passengers. By the way, I didn't see your original post. I was in Texas for my aunt's 90th birthday party, and we had a bit of a family reunion with my brother and cousins, etc. There was no access to the internet at my aunt's house and I didn't have time to look at email at the hotel. Bo is correct that if an answer is not received, probably no one can answer. Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 12:01 P.M. U.S. Central Time, November 15

Hi Bo, It is hard to believe that Erike Ludvig at age 11 would die from an ulcer which cause him to waste away. Thank you for answering my question. Naomi in Illinois ------------------------------- Bo Johansson wrote Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:55:09 Naomi Swanson wrote 2012-11-14 23:16: > > Erik Ludvig Svensson died 23 Jul 1906 Ronneby Blekinge. The cause of death is > listed as Magsar Aftyning. I think Magsar = Ulcer but what does Aftyning mean? Aftyning (avtyning) = decline, wasting away // Bo Johansson

Thanks Bo for responding. I don't know if emigrate info is available for the 1940s or 1950s. Naomi in Illinois ----------------------------------------- Bo Johansson wrote Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:12:42 Naomi Swanson wrote 2012-11-15 16:48: > Hi List - 4 days ago I sent the following message and have not yest received a reply. > > My great aunt, Kristina Otillia Köhl, came to the U.S. in 1928 with her husband. > [...] Is it possible that there might be an emigration listing for her sometime > between 1945 and 1950? Perhaps no-one could answer... // Bo Johansson

Thanks so much, Bo! Can't think you enough for all of your help... All, let's pay it forward as we can. Becky Olson -----Original Message----- From: sweden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sweden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bo Johansson Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:19 AM To: sweden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] help needed - Bengta Olsdotter death record translation, Tollstorp/ Östraby Becky Olson wrote 2012-11-15 02:47: > > I need some help translating the Death Record for Bengta Olsdotter. > Tollstorp/ Östraby, Sweden. Record# 32, ArkivDigital: Ostraby CI:# > (1789-1832) Image 218/page 324. > > Died 18 Nov, buried 25 Nov. Bengta Olsdotter, [xx...] enka, [xxx...] > Tollstorp, 70 > > In particular, I think that her parents and/or husband is listed? Any > help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Death date: 18 Nov 1810 Burial date: 25 Nov Name: Bengta Olsdotter Status: a farmer's widow Adress: at number 2 Tollstorp Age: 70 Cause: old age weakness Parents: father Ola Trulsson(?), mother Elsa Jonsdotter // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List - 4 days ago I sent the following message and have not yest received a reply. My great aunt, Kristina Otillia Köhl, came to the U.S. in 1928 with her husband. I have that information plus the passenger manifest listing them. In the process of looking for her in the 1940 US Census I was unable to locate her. I knew she lived in California as she died there in 1968. In the process of updating information on her son who stayed in Sweden, I discovered that she returned to Sweden in 1937. Following her in the HFL I found that she was still in Hässjö Västenorrland in 1941. In the meantime I found the US Naturalization Index card for her which shows that she became a naturalized citizen of the US in 1954. I have looked at the moving out records for Hässjö from 1941 thru 1945 and could not find a moving out record for her. Also, I looked on Digitalarkivet and she is not listed there. Is it possible that there might be an emigration listing for her sometime between 1945 and 1950? Any help is greatly appreciated. Naomi in Illinois

Hi, I need some help translating the Death Record for Bengta Olsdotter. Tollstorp/ Östraby, Sweden. Record# 32, ArkivDigital: Ostraby CI:# (1789-1832) Image 218/page 324. Died 18 Nov, buried 25 Nov. Bengta Olsdotter, [xx...] enka, [xxx...] Tollstorp, 70 In particular, I think that her parents and/or husband is listed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! becky olson

Bo, Thanks for all the information and for clearing up my mix-up. You and the list are the best. Carol in KY -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> To: sweden <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 2:00 am Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Birth Annicka Larsdotter 1795 Älvsborg Södra Ving Carol Larson wrote 2012-11-15 03:24: > > After a little more searching I think I have found that Anna Arfvedsdotter > (could that be a version of Arvid?) had two husbands. --- Arfved and Arfvid are just spelling variants of Arvid. But there might well be two (or more) women named Anna Arvidsdoter in the parish. > > I found a Anna Arfvedsdotter listed as the mother of Johannes and father > Jonas Nessor (' over the "o") (BirthCI:2 1750-1791 p 53 image 33) > (born 11 Nov 1769) --- OK, Johannes born 11 Nov 1769, parents Jonas Nestor and Anna Arfvedsdotter at Wästra Nohlqwarn(?) > > and this child dies ? March 1771 (Deaths CI:2 1745-1779 p.195 image 110) --- I think this Johannes (with he same parents) who dies in March 1772 at age 3 months, must e a later son also named Johannes. Or his age is 3 years, not 3 months... They are not at Nohlgvarn (Nordkvarn) in AD Södra Ving AI:1 (1777-1794) Image 60 / page 104 (AID: v44523.b60.s104, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). > > I think that Anna was married to Jonas and then to Andreas or to the > other order...so I don't know which. In the 1794-1812 HFL Anna Arfvedsdotter has a daughter Stina(?) born 1769. Unless that is an error, the Johannes above should have a different mother. Abraham's birth is recorded 7 feb 1771, parents "fourier" (approx. sergeant) Jöns Ekberg and Anna Arfvedsdoter of Ekeslunda Hallagård. They are foundat Ekeslunda Hallagård in AD Södra Ving AI:1 (1777-1794) Image 70 / page 124 (AID: v44523.b70.s124, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) The twins Catharina and Stina were born 6 Sep 1768, Jöns Ekberg and Anna Arfvedsdoter of Ekeslunda Hallagård. AD Södra Ving C:2 (1750-1791) Image 30 / page 51 (AID: v44538.b30.s51, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) So this is a different couple. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol Larson wrote 2012-11-15 03:24: > > After a little more searching I think I have found that Anna Arfvedsdotter > (could that be a version of Arvid?) had two husbands. --- Arfved and Arfvid are just spelling variants of Arvid. But there might well be two (or more) women named Anna Arvidsdoter in the parish. > > I found a Anna Arfvedsdotter listed as the mother of Johannes and father > Jonas Nessor (' over the "o") (BirthCI:2 1750-1791 p 53 image 33) > (born 11 Nov 1769) --- OK, Johannes born 11 Nov 1769, parents Jonas Nestor and Anna Arfvedsdotter at Wästra Nohlqwarn(?) > > and this child dies ? March 1771 (Deaths CI:2 1745-1779 p.195 image 110) --- I think this Johannes (with he same parents) who dies in March 1772 at age 3 months, must e a later son also named Johannes. Or his age is 3 years, not 3 months... They are not at Nohlgvarn (Nordkvarn) in AD Södra Ving AI:1 (1777-1794) Image 60 / page 104 (AID: v44523.b60.s104, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). > > I think that Anna was married to Jonas and then to Andreas or to the > other order...so I don't know which. In the 1794-1812 HFL Anna Arfvedsdotter has a daughter Stina(?) born 1769. Unless that is an error, the Johannes above should have a different mother. Abraham's birth is recorded 7 feb 1771, parents "fourier" (approx. sergeant) Jöns Ekberg and Anna Arfvedsdoter of Ekeslunda Hallagård. They are foundat Ekeslunda Hallagård in AD Södra Ving AI:1 (1777-1794) Image 70 / page 124 (AID: v44523.b70.s124, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) The twins Catharina and Stina were born 6 Sep 1768, Jöns Ekberg and Anna Arfvedsdoter of Ekeslunda Hallagård. AD Södra Ving C:2 (1750-1791) Image 30 / page 51 (AID: v44538.b30.s51, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) So this is a different couple. // Bo Johansson

Kathleen Brown wrote 2012-11-15 06:27: > > If Ola and Elna were married in 1861 I wonder if only one or both of them > were Bengta biological parents? She was born 1859-03-27 in Dönhult, > Hjärsås Parish. --- Perhaps you will not be able to find out, because a fire 1895 destroyed most of the older Hjärsås records, there are no household records older than 1861 and no birth records older than 1869. http://www.skatteverket.se/privat/folkbokforing/omfolkbokforing/folkbokforingigaridag/sverigesforsamlingargenomtiderna/forteckning.4.18e1b10334ebe8bc80003999.html But there should be the SCB extracts of birth/marriage/death records starting from 1860, Genline has them, and I think also SVAR The family are at Dönhult in the previous HFL at AD Hjärsås AI:1 (1861-1868) Image 178 / page 343 (AID: v99470.b178.s343, NAD: SE/LLA/13155). No notation about Bengta being illegitimate, you may want to look through the pages to see if this priest usually recorded children as illegitimate. // Bo Johansson > > Kathleen Brown wrote 2012-11-14 21:51: >> >> Hello, I was hoping someone would please help me translate Household >> records for the Ola Esbjörnsson Family. Arkiv Digital. AD AB >> Hjärsås AI:2 (1869-1876) Image 194 / page 189 >> (AID: v99471.b194.s189, NAD: SE/LLA/13155) > > - farm-owner Ola Esbjörnsson, born 1834-03-30 [this] parish, married > 1861-12-30, moved 1869-11-09 to page 289 (missing persons page). > - wife Elna Persdotter, born 1833-02-25 Vånga, came 1855 from page 143, > married to Ola Esbjörnsson who ran away to America 1869. > - d. Dengta, born 1859-03-27 [this] parish, moved 1875(?)-11-12 to page 281. > - 4 more children born 1862-1868. > > // Bo johansson

Becky Olson wrote 2012-11-14 22:03: > > I am having troubles translating the marriage record for Jons Andersson and > pigan Bolla Goransdotter: > > archive digital - Hörby CI:4 Ver:a (1773-1831) image 2280, page 403 > > year = 1821 record # 9 AD Hörby CI:4 (1773-1831) Image 2280 / page 403 (AID: v110151a.b2280.s403, NAD: SE/LLA/13181) The 30th September banns read 1st time for bachelor Jöns Andersson from Årred(??) and maid Bolla Göransdotter from Karlgård(???), married the 30th November. Perhaps he is from Åryd parish? // Bo Johansson

Kathleen Brown wrote 2012-11-14 21:51: > > Hello, I was hoping someone would please help me translate Household > records for the Ola Esbjörnsson Family. Arkiv Digital. AD AB > Hjärsås AI:2 (1869-1876) Image 194 / page 189 > (AID: v99471.b194.s189, NAD: SE/LLA/13155) - farm-owner Ola Esbjörnsson, born 1834-03-30 [this] parish, married 1861-12-30, moved 1869-11-09 to page 289 (missing persons page). - wife Elna Persdotter, born 1833-02-25 Vånga, came 1855 from page 143, married to Ola Esbjörnsson who ran away to America 1869. - d. Dengta, born 1859-03-27 [this] parish, moved 1875(?)-11-12 to page 281. - 4 more children born 1862-1868. // Bo johansson

Becky Olson wrote 2012-11-14 22:03: > > I have found a listing for Åke Håkensson, as the first record listed in HER > - 1800-1801, Töllstorp, Archive digital, Vasterstad AI:3 (1800-1801) image > 46/page 42. > > Ake Hakansson age 67 dead > wife - Bengta, age 59 > > The record lists that he died. But I can't seem to find his death record in > 1800 or 1801 listings? Can anyone review and see if I've overlooked it or > suggestions? > --- He is crossed out so it seems likely he died. He is not with the family in the Next HFL, AD Västerstad AI:4 (1801-1802) image 47 / page 43 (AID: v110314.b47.s43, NAD: SE/LLA/13469). But these HFL volumes cover Västerstad and Östraby parishes, and Tolstorp is in Östraby. Åke Håkanson is found 30 Jan 1801, buried 8 Feb, in AD Östraby CI:3 (1789-1832) Image 202 / page 308 (AID: v110422.b202.s308, NAD: SE/LLA/13534). //Bo Johansson

Carol Larson wrote 2012-11-14 21:29: > > Thank you Bo for all the information. I am curious...why were some of > the children in the Household Examination shown with the last name of > Ekberg and others had the last name of Jönsson? -- Their patronymic surname was Jönsson/Jönsdotter, and it was their choice if they wanted to use that as surname, or use their father's non-patronymic surname Ekberg. > > I thought I had seen that Inga Maria used both last names. -- yes. // Bo Johansson

That's correct. It was called "kyrktagning" (churching). Here is some very good information about this and other old Swedish customs. http://martenius.se/ Martin Annette Bowen skrev 2012-11-14 20:17: > Did Sweden have the custom that Norway did that the mother couldn't > attend church until she was introduced 6 weeks or so after childbirth > and that she usually was not present for the baptism in church? > > Annette > > On

Thank You for responding!! I don't have much experience finding and deciphering these kinds of records. Next time I will know to look for references to other page numbers ! Ola's son Nils, was my great grandfather. I thought something had happened to Ola as we never heard about him in the USA but he had two brothers that preceeded him in making the journey. If Ola and Elna were married in 1861 I wonder if only one or both of them were Bengta biological parents? She was born 1859-03-27 in Dönhult, Hjärsås Parish. Thank You Kathleen   --- On Wed, 11/14/12, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: From: Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Question Ola Esbjörnsson Household records, Hjärsås 1869-1876 To: sweden@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 1:41 PM Kathleen Brown wrote 2012-11-14 21:51: > > Hello,   I was hoping someone would please help me translate Household > records for the Ola Esbjörnsson Family. Arkiv Digital. AD AB > Hjärsås AI:2 (1869-1876) Image 194 / page 189 > (AID: v99471.b194.s189, NAD: SE/LLA/13155) - farm-owner Ola Esbjörnsson, born 1834-03-30 [this] parish, married 1861-12-30, moved 1869-11-09 to page 289 (missing persons page). - wife Elna Persdotter, born 1833-02-25 Vånga, came 1855 from page 143, married to Ola Esbjörnsson who ran away to America 1869. - d. Dengta, born 1859-03-27 [this] parish, moved 1875(?)-11-12 to page 281. - 4 more children born 1862-1868. // Bo johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bo, After a little more searching I think I have found that Anna Arfvedsdotter (could that be a version of Arvid?) had two husbands. I found a Anna Arfvedsdotter listed as the mother of Johannes and father Jonas Nessor (' over the "o") (BirthCI:2 1750-1791 p 53 image 33) (born 11 Nov 1769) and this child dies ? March 1771 (Deaths CI:2 1745-1779 p.195 image 110) I think that Anna was married to Jonas and then to Andreas or to the other order...so I don't know which. I am so confused since the HFL does not have clear dates. I think perhaps this is beyond understanding. Carol in KY -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> To: sweden <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:38 pm Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Birth Annicka Larsdotter 1795 Älvsborg Södra Ving Carol Larson wrote 2012-11-14 21:29: > > Thank you Bo for all the information. I am curious...why were some of > the children in the Household Examination shown with the last name of > Ekberg and others had the last name of Jönsson? -- Their patronymic surname was Jönsson/Jönsdotter, and it was their choice if they wanted to use that as surname, or use their father's non-patronymic surname Ekberg. > > I thought I had seen that Inga Maria used both last names. -- yes. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I need some help translating the Death Record for Bengta Olsdotter. Tollstorp/ Östraby, Sweden. Record# 32, ArkivDigital: Ostraby CI:# (1789-1832) Image 218/page 324. Died 18 Nov, buried 25 Nov. Bengta Olsdotter, [xx...] enka, [xxx...] Tollstorp, 70 In particular, I think that her parents and/or husband is listed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! becky olson

Becky Olson wrote 2012-11-14 01:06: > > I could use some help translating the birth record for Bengta Olsdotter, 9 > Sep 1741 > > archive digital - Östraby CI:2 (1736-1789) Image 20/page 13 > > It appears that Bengta was born 9 Sep 1741 in Töllstorp to Olaf??? I can > not understand Olaf's surname or if there is a mother's name listed. Thanks > in advance for any help. Birth date: 9 Sep 1741 Baptism date: 17th Sunday post Trinity Name: Bengta Father: Olof Trulsson Address: Tulstorp Carried to baptism by: Elsa Jöns Pers [Jöns persson's wife] of the same place. Mother not recorded. 17th Sunday post Trinity was 13 Sep in 1741 https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Moveable_Feast_Day_Calendar_for:_Sweden // Bo Johansson