Brenda - They are listed as Population Register and will usually appear somewhere below Deaths and Burials. Not all parishes in AD will have them available. Naomi in Illinois

I've had people tell me they can't find these records on AD, so I went online to check the instructions I'd given. I was surprised to see that AD has scanned relatively few parishes so far. I guess I've been lucky that the ones I'm interested in (e.g.,Vä, Häglinge) have been covered. However, even for these parishes only a few years are available. That's why I generally rely on SVAR for this resource. I know AD is always expanding its coverage so I presume they'll keep adding mantalslängder. I hope I didn't mislead anyone about their availability. Jim Polson Vancouver

Thanks for this info. I'd never heard of it! :) -----Original Message----- From: sweden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sweden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Polson Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:46 AM To: sweden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: MantalslCB$ngder Dear List: Here are my notes, as requested. I don't claim to be an authority, so if there are errors, please let me know. Mantalsldngder These are tax registers. They are civil documents, not religious ones. This means they are not subject to the whims or bad habits of individual priests, or to the problems of document storage in old churches. Of course, it's possible to have fires or nibbling mice in government buildings too, so the safety of tax records is not guaranteed. The information you get from them is pretty bare-bones stuff, The king's men don't care what your birthday is or where you were born. Nonetheless, they are still very useful. They started in 1635 and continued till 1938. That doesn't mean you will find them for all years, but you will often find they can cover the gaps in the church records. For example, if you have no birth record for a man who lived at Number 3, find out who occupied it before he did. You will often find obvious family links: e.g., a house occupied in turn by Lars Rasmusson, then Rasmus Larsson, and then Lars Rasmusson probably shows three generations of one family. I find that if I am faced with locating a family in a large hfl and I don't know exactly where they lived, a quick look in the mantalsldngd can put me on the right path. A mantalsldngd is usually only a few pages long and when you find the head of household, you've also found his house number. Do they cover everyone? Definitely not. The king wanted everyone of working age to pay a tax, but there were whole classes of people who were exempt. The nobility didn't pay, nor did the military. The sick and the poor were also excused from this obligation. There were age limitations as well. Generally, the people who paid tax were between 15 and 63, but you will find exceptions to this. When were they done? It usually took about two-and-a-half months for the commisssioners to collect the information. Before 1724 the information was gathered from January to the middle of March. From 1724 on, they were given a deadline of January 10. This means for the year 1724 they were out in the villages by mid October of 1723. The commissioners naturally got assistance from local people, and you will often see signatures or bomdrken from these people appended. How do you read them? They are arranged by household within the parish; e.g., Village A, house numbers 1-20, Village B, house numbers 1-3, etc. After the house number is the name of the head of the household. Often this is the only person whose name is recorded in full. In this section you may find the names of the other people in the household who will be paying taxes--wife, son, daughter, drdng, piga, etc. If you're lucky you will get more than just the first name. If you're unlucky, you won't even get that. Next you will find columns for the categories of people paying tax. The usual scheme is this: Col. 1 head Col. 2 wife Col. 3 son Col. 4 daughter Col. 5 drdng Col. 6. piga Col. 7. total For example columns with 1 -- 2 3 1 1 8 would indicate a householder with no wife, 2 sons, 3 daughters, 1 drdng, and 1 piga, for a total of 8 people making the king happy. You might suspect that this householder is a widower or that his wife is over 63--you don't know which. If there are children under 15 they won't be listed. The columns may vary. Sometimes there is a column for mother, son-in-law, inhyses, etc. There are usually column headings at the top that will make it clear, but you may have to go back to an earlier page to find them. You may even have to go back to a parish earlier in the tax book. That's easily done with SVAR but can be a problem with ArkivDigital. Where can you see mantalsldngder? With ArkivDigital it's simple. Just bring up the parish arkiv and look for mantalsldngder. With SVAR you do more or less the same thing. Find the parish (Geographic Search will do it), then click on "Scanned Documents (tax census)"; in Swedish "skannat material (mantalsldngder)" **Remember--- Tax offices all over Sweden collected the same data, BUT there were no printed forms. Each office had its own method of recording the information. You will find differences in how the information appears. AND, we're talking about a span of 300 years or so. Tax policies were remarkably consistent over the years, but they did change. I hope this is useful. Jim Polson

HI Jim & Lois thank you both for this wonderful information you have shared. I have never thought to look into this & since I have AD I surely will! Tack Diane/NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Polson" <jimpolson@shaw.ca> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: Re: Mantalslängder > Dear List: > > Here are my notes, as requested. I don't claim to be an authority, so > if there are errors, please let me know. > > > Mantalslängder > > These are tax registers. They are civil documents, not religious > ones. This means they are not subject to the whims or bad habits of > individual priests, or to the problems of document storage in old > churches. Of course, it's possible to have fires or nibbling mice in > government buildings too, so the safety of tax records is not > guaranteed. > > The information you get from them is pretty bare-bones stuff, The > king's men don't care what your birthday is or where you were born. > Nonetheless, they are still very useful. > > They started in 1635 and continued till 1938. That doesn't mean you > will find them for all years, but you will often find they can cover > the gaps in the church records. For example, if you have no birth > record for a man who lived at Number 3, find out who occupied it > before he did. You will often find obvious family links: e.g., a > house occupied in turn by Lars Rasmusson, then Rasmus Larsson, and > then Lars Rasmusson probably shows three generations of one family. > > I find that if I am faced with locating a family in a large hfl and I > don't know exactly where they lived, a quick look in the mantalslängd > can put me on the right path. A mantalslängd is usually only a few > pages long and when you find the head of household, you've also found > his house number. > > Do they cover everyone? > > Definitely not. The king wanted everyone of working age to pay a tax, > but there were whole classes of people who were exempt. > The nobility didn't pay, nor did the military. The sick and the poor > were also excused from this obligation. There were age limitations as > well. Generally, the people who paid tax were between 15 and 63, but > you will find exceptions to this. > > When were they done? > > It usually took about two-and-a-half months for the commisssioners to > collect the information. Before 1724 the information was gathered > from January to the middle of March. From 1724 on, they were given a > deadline of January 10. This means for the year 1724 they were > out in the villages by mid October of 1723. The commissioners > naturally got assistance from local people, and you will often see > signatures or bomärken from these people appended. > > How do you read them? > > They are arranged by household within the parish; e.g., Village A, > house numbers 1-20, Village B, house numbers 1-3, etc. > After the house number is the name of the head of the household. > Often this is the only person whose name is recorded in full. > In this section you may find the names of the other people in the > household who will be paying taxes--wife, son, daughter, dräng, piga, > etc. > If you're lucky you will get more than just the first name. If you're > unlucky, you won't even get that. > > Next you will find columns for the categories of people paying tax. > The usual scheme is this: > Col. 1 head > Col. 2 wife > Col. 3 son > Col. 4 daughter > Col. 5 dräng > Col. 6. piga > Col. 7. total > > For example columns with 1 -- 2 3 1 1 8 would indicate a > householder with no wife, 2 sons, 3 daughters, 1 dräng, and 1 piga, > for a total of 8 people making the king happy. > You might suspect that this householder is a widower or that his wife > is over 63--you don't know which. If there are children under 15 they > won't be listed. > > The columns may vary. Sometimes there is a column for mother, > son-in-law, inhyses, etc. There are usually column headings at the > top that will make it clear, but you may have to go back to an > earlier page to find them. You may even have to go back to a parish > earlier in the tax book. That's easily done with SVAR but can be a > problem with ArkivDigital. > > Where can you see mantalslängder? > > With ArkivDigital it's simple. Just bring up the parish arkiv and > look for mantalslängder. > > With SVAR you do more or less the same thing. Find the parish > (Geographic Search will do it), then click on "Scanned Documents (tax > census)"; in Swedish "skannat material (mantalslängder)" > > **Remember--- > Tax offices all over Sweden collected the same data, BUT there were > no printed forms. Each office had its own method of > recording the information. You will find differences in how the > information appears. AND, we're talking about a span > of 300 years or so. Tax policies were remarkably consistent over the > years, but they did change. > > I hope this is useful. > > Jim Polson > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been hunting around AD for these records and cannot find any. They are not listed under archive type and I searched 6 parishes my ancestors lived in and nothing.....What am i doing wrong? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Polson" <jimpolson@shaw.ca> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Mantalslängder > Dear List: > > Here are my notes, as requested. I don't claim to be an authority, so > if there are errors, please let me know. > > > Mantalslängder > > These are tax registers. They are civil documents, not religious > ones. This means they are not subject to the whims or bad habits of > individual priests, or to the problems of document storage in old > churches. Of course, it's possible to have fires or nibbling mice in > government buildings too, so the safety of tax records is not > guaranteed. > > The information you get from them is pretty bare-bones stuff, The > king's men don't care what your birthday is or where you were born. > Nonetheless, they are still very useful. > > They started in 1635 and continued till 1938. That doesn't mean you > will find them for all years, but you will often find they can cover > the gaps in the church records. For example, if you have no birth > record for a man who lived at Number 3, find out who occupied it > before he did. You will often find obvious family links: e.g., a > house occupied in turn by Lars Rasmusson, then Rasmus Larsson, and > then Lars Rasmusson probably shows three generations of one family. > > I find that if I am faced with locating a family in a large hfl and I > don't know exactly where they lived, a quick look in the mantalslängd > can put me on the right path. A mantalslängd is usually only a few > pages long and when you find the head of household, you've also found > his house number. > > Do they cover everyone? > > Definitely not. The king wanted everyone of working age to pay a tax, > but there were whole classes of people who were exempt. > The nobility didn't pay, nor did the military. The sick and the poor > were also excused from this obligation. There were age limitations as > well. Generally, the people who paid tax were between 15 and 63, but > you will find exceptions to this. > > When were they done? > > It usually took about two-and-a-half months for the commisssioners to > collect the information. Before 1724 the information was gathered > from January to the middle of March. From 1724 on, they were given a > deadline of January 10. This means for the year 1724 they were > out in the villages by mid October of 1723. The commissioners > naturally got assistance from local people, and you will often see > signatures or bomärken from these people appended. > > How do you read them? > > They are arranged by household within the parish; e.g., Village A, > house numbers 1-20, Village B, house numbers 1-3, etc. > After the house number is the name of the head of the household. > Often this is the only person whose name is recorded in full. > In this section you may find the names of the other people in the > household who will be paying taxes--wife, son, daughter, dräng, piga, > etc. > If you're lucky you will get more than just the first name. If you're > unlucky, you won't even get that. > > Next you will find columns for the categories of people paying tax. > The usual scheme is this: > Col. 1 head > Col. 2 wife > Col. 3 son > Col. 4 daughter > Col. 5 dräng > Col. 6. piga > Col. 7. total > > For example columns with 1 -- 2 3 1 1 8 would indicate a > householder with no wife, 2 sons, 3 daughters, 1 dräng, and 1 piga, > for a total of 8 people making the king happy. > You might suspect that this householder is a widower or that his wife > is over 63--you don't know which. If there are children under 15 they > won't be listed. > > The columns may vary. Sometimes there is a column for mother, > son-in-law, inhyses, etc. There are usually column headings at the > top that will make it clear, but you may have to go back to an > earlier page to find them. You may even have to go back to a parish > earlier in the tax book. That's easily done with SVAR but can be a > problem with ArkivDigital. > > Where can you see mantalslängder? > > With ArkivDigital it's simple. Just bring up the parish arkiv and > look for mantalslängder. > > With SVAR you do more or less the same thing. Find the parish > (Geographic Search will do it), then click on "Scanned Documents (tax > census)"; in Swedish "skannat material (mantalslängder)" > > **Remember--- > Tax offices all over Sweden collected the same data, BUT there were > no printed forms. Each office had its own method of > recording the information. You will find differences in how the > information appears. AND, we're talking about a span > of 300 years or so. Tax policies were remarkably consistent over the > years, but they did change. > > I hope this is useful. > > Jim Polson > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Doesn't matter he sent it from his personal email he still sent it to this mailing list and it doesn't allow attachments. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Young" <bayofcc@comcast.net> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > ok:} > > Barbara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brenda <brenda6@comcast.net> > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:24:09 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > > It was sent from his personal e-mail address. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara Young" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > > > > > >> Hi Brenda, > >> > >> If it was sent to rootsweb, they don't allow attachments. > >> > >> All the best > >> Barbara in MA > >

What did Jonas Olofsson Swedberg die of at age 30, 20 Oct 1808? Record is at Jämtland > Föllinge > Död (Deaths) > 1806 - 1861 (C:3) page 352 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Johansson" <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Olof Jonsson born 24 Nov 1806 Föllinge, Jämtland Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 17:45: > > Was the soldier Olof Svedberg, Olof Jonsson's GRANDfather? And Olof > Jonsson's father, Jonas, kept the last name of Svedberg? --- Yes (at least in this birth record). BTW, I noticed in the HFL that Jonas died 1808 or 1809, and Christina Isacsdotter remarried 1811 to Nils Johansson, who took over as "torpare" // Bo Johansson

Discovered this info on BLOG and thought it might be of help: Monday, December 26, 2011 Mantalslängder (Tax Censuses) on SVAR It has been a long time since I've updated this blog. Partly I've been too busy, but also I lost my blog's password for a time. (I've finally written it down, so I hope that problem won't happen again.) At any rate, I feel guilty about not posting since September. Perhaps that guilty feeling will inspire me to continue adding tidbits to this blog. ;-) I don't want anyone to think I'm a spokesperson for SVAR, but they do have some great scanned records. Unfortunately SVAR is not as easy to use as Genline or Arkiv Digital. Some people subscribe and find nothing because they don't know how to find materials on SVAR.(They should have asked for help on a message board or asked for help from SVAR, but they didn't and wasted their money. I still feel sorry for them.) I have been trying to use the mantalslängder (tax censuses) more because there is a huge gap in parish records of any type for about 20 years in Frändefors parish where two of my grandparents were born. It is therefore quite hard to get back more than a few generations using only the parish records. One useful record is the mantalslängder. They were created just about every year, as far as I can tell (with some gaps, perhaps). Also, the best records are in the Swedish section of SVAR. There are some records which can be found if the site is changed to English, but the choices are far greater if you use the Swedish listings on the left side of the home page. The mantalslängder is not exactly a census. It is a listing of those who were supposed to pay the "mantalspengar". The listings are for people from about 15-63 years of age. Wives are usually listed as wife, not by name. Soldiers were exempt. I think the extremely poor were exempt. There seem to be age categories into which there are numbers placed. I am far from familiar with every part of this record, but there are listings of the older children (I suppose.) so you can keep track year by year of at least some of the children who belong to a particular family.Servants (farmhands, female farm workers, etc.) and children are just added to a column by numbers. (4 female farm workers, 3 farmhands, etc.) This site explains the column headings. http://tinyurl.com/7osmk2y Years ago I used to order microfilms of the mantalslängder from a Family History Center. They are in the Family History Library Catalog under: Sweden --> Swedish County --> Census Once the film is selected, you have to find the film which has the parish you are searching in. Then you have to find the farm or village. This is a bit time-consuming, to say the least. On SVAR it is easier. It has the mantalslängder from 1642-1820. (I think that the microfilms go later than that, but this is a good start.) This is how I find those records. 1. Go to SVAR. <http://www.blogger.com/goog_351059631> http://www.svar.ra.se <http://www.svar.ra.se/> 2. Sign in. (This is a subscription service.) 3. On the left side of the page, you will find "*Skatter*" (Taxes). 4. Click on "*Skatter*". 5. Click on "*Mantalslängder 1642-1820*". 6. Use the drop-down menu by *Län* to select the county you need. 7. "*Församling*". (parish) a. Type the parish name. (Don't forget to use the "Swedish letters", if necessary.) b. or you can use the drop-down menu. Choices are: "*Innehåller*" (contains), "*Exakt*" (exact), "*Del av*" (part of), and "*Börjar med*" (begins with) 8. "*Härad*" (Judicial District). You can leave this blank, or enter the härad, if you know it. 9. "*Startår*" (beginning year) 10. "*Slutår*" (ending year) 11. "*Sök*" (Search) or "*Rensa*" (Erase) 12. Click on the *"Bild*" (Image) for the year you want. Iif you need to move forward to see more choices, click on "*Nästa sida*" (next page) at the bottom. If you need to move backwards, choose "*Föregående sida*" (previous page). 13. Once you have reached the images you want, you can adjust the size at the top of the page, but the size will change back to "Fit Page" unless you use the "*Installningar*" (Adjustments) link at the bottom right of the page. 14. I use the "*Zoomnings grad*" adjustment. The choices are "*Hela sidan*" (the whole page) and then the percentage of zoom. "*Spara*" means Save. 15. "*Källa*" (source) When you find the page you want, click on "*Källa*" and then copy the highlighted section. Then paste into your genealogy program. 16. You can move forwardsor backwardsone page at a time by clicking on the forward or backward arrow points. 17. You can move forwards or backwards five pages at a time by clicking on the +5 and -5 numbers. 18. You can move to the beginning or ending of the volume by clicking on the double arrow points. 19. There is also a drop-down menu which can be used to select the number of the image, which is probably not the exact page number. 20. If you find the image you want, then right click on the image. Move to "*Selection*" and then to "*Copy*". Paste into an image program. I use Irfanview, which can be downloaded for free. (I discovered Irfanview at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.) http://www.irfanview.com <http://www.irfanview.com/> 21. You can then save the image using Irfanview. The guidebook "Cradled in Sweden" discusses the mantalslängder in chapter 11. There will be a class on Swedish Research with intermediate to advanced topics at this January's Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy. (However, as of this writing there are four seats left in this class.) Mantalslängder are among the topics which will be taught. Scroll down on the following website to find the information on the class. http://tinyurl.com/8432j2q On 12/2/2012 11:27 AM, Jim Polson wrote: > Dear List: > > I've just been helping a new-found 8th cousin from Sweden as she > begins her family research. Using doppvittnen and mantalslängder I > was able to dig up some ancestors for her outside the parish her > people came from. > > Naturally, she was then interested in mantalslängder and wanted to > know more about them, so I put together some brief notes for her. > > Would it be of any interest to anyone if I posted these notes on this > list? It's always seemed to me that mantalslängder are an underused > source. > > Jim Polson > Vancouver > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim, I have used the mantalslängd many times and have found the information interesting. Usually the mantalslängd is a population register for taxes for 1941. Not all parishes have these registers available for viewing yet. Naomi in Illinois ---------------------------------------- Jim Polson wrote Sun Dec 2 11:27:29 Dear List: I've just been helping a new-found 8th cousin from Sweden as she begins her family research. Using doppvittnen and mantalsl�ngder I was able to dig up some ancestors for her outside the parish her people came from. Naturally, she was then interested in mantalsl�ngder and wanted to know more about them, so I put together some brief notes for her. Would it be of any interest to anyone if I posted these notes on this list? It's always seemed to me that mantalsl�ngder are an underused source. Jim Polson Vancouver

Jim, I am totally uninformed about this area of research and I would definitely appreciate learning more. And a very happy first Sunday of Advent. Carol in KY -----Original Message----- From: Jim Polson <jimpolson@shaw.ca> To: sweden <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 12:29 pm Subject: Mantalslängder Dear List: I've just been helping a new-found 8th cousin from Sweden as she begins her family research. Using doppvittnen and mantalsl�ngder I was able to dig up some ancestors for her outside the parish her people came from. Naturally, she was then interested in mantalsl�ngder and wanted to know more about them, so I put together some brief notes for her. Would it be of any interest to anyone if I posted these notes on this list? It's always seemed to me that mantalsl�ngder are an underused source. Jim Polson Vancouver ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 02:18: > > Well, there is a story behind it...I made it for a boyfriend. We broke up > and he never knew about it. It's one of the nicest quilts I've made so I > hung on to it knowing someday it would go to the right, deserving home. > It was the perfect way to say 'thank-you' for me. Uh-oh, now he will know I > did not make it just for him... I speculated that there was some story like that, for example that it was made for a favorite aunt who died before she could receive it... // Bo Johansson

Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 01:34: > > I would like help reading a birth record of Olof Jonsson born 24 Nov > 1806 Föllinge, Jämtland found at 1806 - 1861 (C:3) image 11 on > Ancestry.com, page 11. The parents seem to have interesting last names. AD Föllinge C:3 (1806-1861) Image 90 / page 5 (AID: v114450.b90.s5, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052) Olof, born and baptised 24 nov 1806, parents farmhand Jonas Olofsson Swedberg and wife Stina Isacsdotter in Norrgård. "Torpare" Olof Svedberg with family, including son Jonas and his family, are found at Norrgård in AD Föllinge AI:3 (1801-1812) Image 160 / page 11 (AID: v114436.b160.s11, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052). Perhaps Olof Svedberg had been a soldier? Yes, in the birth record for Jon/Jonas 19 Sep 1778 at Norrgård, the father is recorded as "dragon" (dragoon, soldier) Olof Svedberg. AD Föllinge C:2 (1777-1805) Image 60 / page 7 (AID: v114449.b60.s7, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052). // Bo Johansson

Dear List: Here are my notes, as requested. I don't claim to be an authority, so if there are errors, please let me know. Mantalslängder These are tax registers. They are civil documents, not religious ones. This means they are not subject to the whims or bad habits of individual priests, or to the problems of document storage in old churches. Of course, it's possible to have fires or nibbling mice in government buildings too, so the safety of tax records is not guaranteed. The information you get from them is pretty bare-bones stuff, The king's men don't care what your birthday is or where you were born. Nonetheless, they are still very useful. They started in 1635 and continued till 1938. That doesn't mean you will find them for all years, but you will often find they can cover the gaps in the church records. For example, if you have no birth record for a man who lived at Number 3, find out who occupied it before he did. You will often find obvious family links: e.g., a house occupied in turn by Lars Rasmusson, then Rasmus Larsson, and then Lars Rasmusson probably shows three generations of one family. I find that if I am faced with locating a family in a large hfl and I don't know exactly where they lived, a quick look in the mantalslängd can put me on the right path. A mantalslängd is usually only a few pages long and when you find the head of household, you've also found his house number. Do they cover everyone? Definitely not. The king wanted everyone of working age to pay a tax, but there were whole classes of people who were exempt. The nobility didn't pay, nor did the military. The sick and the poor were also excused from this obligation. There were age limitations as well. Generally, the people who paid tax were between 15 and 63, but you will find exceptions to this. When were they done? It usually took about two-and-a-half months for the commisssioners to collect the information. Before 1724 the information was gathered from January to the middle of March. From 1724 on, they were given a deadline of January 10. This means for the year 1724 they were out in the villages by mid October of 1723. The commissioners naturally got assistance from local people, and you will often see signatures or bomärken from these people appended. How do you read them? They are arranged by household within the parish; e.g., Village A, house numbers 1-20, Village B, house numbers 1-3, etc. After the house number is the name of the head of the household. Often this is the only person whose name is recorded in full. In this section you may find the names of the other people in the household who will be paying taxes--wife, son, daughter, dräng, piga, etc. If you're lucky you will get more than just the first name. If you're unlucky, you won't even get that. Next you will find columns for the categories of people paying tax. The usual scheme is this: Col. 1 head Col. 2 wife Col. 3 son Col. 4 daughter Col. 5 dräng Col. 6. piga Col. 7. total For example columns with 1 -- 2 3 1 1 8 would indicate a householder with no wife, 2 sons, 3 daughters, 1 dräng, and 1 piga, for a total of 8 people making the king happy. You might suspect that this householder is a widower or that his wife is over 63--you don't know which. If there are children under 15 they won't be listed. The columns may vary. Sometimes there is a column for mother, son-in-law, inhyses, etc. There are usually column headings at the top that will make it clear, but you may have to go back to an earlier page to find them. You may even have to go back to a parish earlier in the tax book. That's easily done with SVAR but can be a problem with ArkivDigital. Where can you see mantalslängder? With ArkivDigital it's simple. Just bring up the parish arkiv and look for mantalslängder. With SVAR you do more or less the same thing. Find the parish (Geographic Search will do it), then click on "Scanned Documents (tax census)"; in Swedish "skannat material (mantalslängder)" **Remember--- Tax offices all over Sweden collected the same data, BUT there were no printed forms. Each office had its own method of recording the information. You will find differences in how the information appears. AND, we're talking about a span of 300 years or so. Tax policies were remarkably consistent over the years, but they did change. I hope this is useful. Jim Polson

It was sent from his personal e-mail address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Young" <bayofcc@comcast.net> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > Hi Brenda, > > If it was sent to rootsweb, they don't allow attachments. > > All the best > Barbara in MA

Jim, the attachment did not show for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Polson" <jimpolson@shaw.ca> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:27 AM Subject: Mantalslängder > Dear List: > > I've just been helping a new-found 8th cousin from Sweden as she > begins her family research. Using doppvittnen and mantalslängder I > was able to dig up some ancestors for her outside the parish her > people came from. > > Naturally, she was then interested in mantalslängder and wanted to > know more about them, so I put together some brief notes for her. > > Would it be of any interest to anyone if I posted these notes on this > list? It's always seemed to me that mantalslängder are an underused > source. > > Jim Polson > Vancouver > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List: I've just been helping a new-found 8th cousin from Sweden as she begins her family research. Using doppvittnen and mantalslängder I was able to dig up some ancestors for her outside the parish her people came from. Naturally, she was then interested in mantalslängder and wanted to know more about them, so I put together some brief notes for her. Would it be of any interest to anyone if I posted these notes on this list? It's always seemed to me that mantalslängder are an underused source. Jim Polson Vancouver

Thank you for research on this, Bo. Was the soldier Olof Svedberg, Olof Jonsson's GRANDfather? And Olof Jonsson's father, Jonas, kept the last name of Svedberg? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Johansson" <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> To: <sweden@rootsweb.com>J Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Olof Jonsson born 24 Nov 1806 Föllinge, Jämtland Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 01:34: > > I would like help reading a birth record of Olof Jonsson born 24 Nov > 1806 Föllinge, Jämtland found at 1806 - 1861 (C:3) image 11 on > Ancestry.com, page 11. The parents seem to have interesting last names. AD Föllinge C:3 (1806-1861) Image 90 / page 5 (AID: v114450.b90.s5, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052) Olof, born and baptised 24 nov 1806, parents farmhand Jonas Olofsson Swedberg and wife Stina Isacsdotter in Norrgård. "Torpare" Olof Svedberg with family, including son Jonas and his family, are found at Norrgård in AD Föllinge AI:3 (1801-1812) Image 160 / page 11 (AID: v114436.b160.s11, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052). Perhaps Olof Svedberg had been a soldier? Yes, in the birth record for Jon/Jonas 19 Sep 1778 at Norrgård, the father is recorded as "dragon" (dragoon, soldier) Olof Svedberg. AD Föllinge C:2 (1777-1805) Image 60 / page 7 (AID: v114449.b60.s7, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052). // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The subject email with attachment got into my junk folder and was gone before I recognized it. Could someone please resend to me? Sounds interesting. Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder It was sent from his personal e-mail address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Young" To:

Actually, it was made for you, Bo, but she didn't know it at the time. - Judy On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 02:18: > > > > Well, there is a story behind it...I made it for a boyfriend. We broke up > > and he never knew about it. It's one of the nicest quilts I've made so I > > hung on to it knowing someday it would go to the right, deserving home. > > It was the perfect way to say 'thank-you' for me. Uh-oh, now he will > know I > > did not make it just for him... > > I speculated that there was some story like that, for example that it > was made for a favorite aunt who died before she could receive it... > > // Bo Johansson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was thinking that! So glad you posted this. Do you have his snail-mail address, so we don't all ask for it. I often wondered what he does for a living, for he is always available for us. Thank you BOno,I mean Pono! Deannie On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Pono (Norm) <kapono@maui.net> wrote: > Many people on this list are special and give generously of their time, but > someBOdy stands head and shoulders aBOve the rest. If you have been > favored > by help from him, I suggest that you email him offline for his snail-mail > address and shoot off a gift of appreciation this week. NoBOdy deserves > recognition more! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >